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Only if Holmgren gets it first.So when we're 2-7 heading into the bye, does Shurmur get whacked?
No way we are 2-7 going into the bye. With the influx of new talent we will be getting from the draft and the multiple trades down H&H are sure to pull off, we are gong to be stocked to the gills with fresh young 5th & 6th round talent.No way will be 2-7. . .optimist. 2-7 is best case right?So when we're 2-7 heading into the bye, does Shurmur get whacked?
What part of the schedule is Shurmer responsible for?So when we're 2-7 heading into the bye, does Shurmur get whacked?
Is it getting smoky in here?
We knew it was going to be horrible on paper. Keep in mind though that two years ago we went into New Orleans and whipped the Super Bowl Champs, and blasted the Patriots at home. This is Colt's second year in the offense, and we may have a dynomite running back and some more receiver help. The young defense, which was #10, should improve. Not everyone is going to be as good as they look on paper.No way we are 2-7 going into the bye. With the influx of new talent we will be getting from the draft and the multiple trades down H&H are sure to pull off, we are gong to be stocked to the gills with fresh young 5th & 6th round talent.No way will be 2-7. . .optimist. 2-7 is best case right?So when we're 2-7 heading into the bye, does Shurmur get whacked?
It wouldn't be exciting, but 7 or 8 years of a line of Kalil, Mack, and Thomas should help keep whatever QB back there clean. Plus, my fat ### could probably rush for 1,000 yards or more consistently.
Rizzo says 14-22012 NFL Schedule - Browns Season PreviewTough road aheadLet's play "Find the win so the Browns can avoid going 0-16." They'll be huge underdogs in every game they play against much more talented teams except for these two: an away tilt at Indianapolis in October, where Andrew Luck may have his sea legs under him; and a home game against the Redskins in mid-December. Cleveland could realistically be 0-13 headed into that one. http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2012/REG/BROWNSGotta love that on the NFL's site
I just listened to the interview. Oof. Here's some character traits that I came away with for Mr. Blackmon:-Aloof-Uninformed-Noncommital -UnemotionalCouldn't really name one coach he met with when he visited. Seems like the type of player that will quit when things are bad. Or he could have been intentionally behaving this way because he doesn't want to play here.Hooley: "Do you want to be a Cleveland Brown?"Blackmon: "I want to be a Cleveland Brown if they want me to be a Cleveland Brown"Missed it, I flip to Columbus radio when Hooley comes on. What did he say that came off so bad?Heard Blackmon on the radio with Hooley... guy sounds like an #######
In my rant you can replace Randle with Jeffrey or Hill too. If we don't take one of the first 3 I don't want one until round 3.
Point taken, but Jeffery was projected as a top 5 overall talent last year. I think the ceiling is the highest for him than either Hill, Randle, or even Kendall Wright. And I know they have big plans for Jordan Cameron but if for some reason Coby Fleener slips to 37 we have to consider it. He'll be as much (if not more) of a weapon than any of the second tier receivers.
Yes, predicting the season in mid-April is such an exact science. What a dickbag.2012 NFL Schedule - Browns Season PreviewTough road aheadLet's play "Find the win so the Browns can avoid going 0-16." They'll be huge underdogs in every game they play against much more talented teams except for these two: an away tilt at Indianapolis in October, where Andrew Luck may have his sea legs under him; and a home game against the Redskins in mid-December. Cleveland could realistically be 0-13 headed into that one. http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2012/REG/BROWNSGotta love that on the NFL's site
3rd toughest based off of opponents winning percentages from last year.They had the top 5 up on 1 of the ESPN stations this morning.The Browns are the only sub .500 team from last year with a top 5 schedule this year.
Very.Heckert will probably be jumping for joy if someone trades up to 3 to take Tannehill or Richardson or Blackmon,
If Mel and McShay's available player board at 37 reads Fleener, Hill, Alshon, Randle, Mike Adams, and Weeden I hope the Browns actual board looks likeFleener (27 other prospects)AlshonRandleHillWeeden AdamsWe can probably get Alshon Jeffrey in the 3rd round, his name is Juron Criner.'NJDawgPound said:
I agree with your WR assessment. There is rarely any reason to take one in rnd 2. Complete players go early and speed guys can be obtained in rnd 4.Not sure I want Fleener, though. With 12 different holes to fill, it's hard to justify another TE, albeit the BPA.
I would rather us not look at him either, but if things fall in line we should probably prepare ourselves for the pick. If we go with Rich, none of the top 3 WR's fall, we don't move up for any of them, and we don't see the value at need positions (CB, RDE, OLB, RT, LG), and we don't have a good trade down offer we may take him. Realistically, I don't think Fleener falls out of round 1 (NFL's a copycat league and the TE class sucks) and if he is there teams will be looking to trade up, but there's at least a chance it happens.If it does...I think Watson's a UFA after this season and would be very surprised if we re-sign him and I think Moore's only signed through 2013 too. These guys like Cameron, but enough to say we can't take Fleener? Doubt that.All this is just another reason I'm apprehensive about Rich early. The value's not there at WR if we wait and the top 3 don't fall and we need a play maker in the passing game. Fleener's the 4th best pass catching prospect imho. If we take Rich we have to find a way to get Floyd or Wright. Have to.
I'd also accept BPA x 13 !I respect everyone's opinion here, especially this thread since we are all Browns fans (it makes you a little "special" to begin with).That said, you crazy man
We had this guy on the team a few years ago, hi BraylonI just listened to the interview. Oof. Here's some character traits that I came away with for Mr. Blackmon:-Aloof-Uninformed-Noncommital -UnemotionalCouldn't really name one coach he met with when he visited. Seems like the type of player that will quit when things are bad. Or he could have been intentionally behaving this way because he doesn't want to play here.Hooley: "Do you want to be a Cleveland Brown?"Blackmon: "I want to be a Cleveland Brown if they want me to be a Cleveland Brown"Missed it, I flip to Columbus radio when Hooley comes on. What did he say that came off so bad?Heard Blackmon on the radio with Hooley... guy sounds like an #######
Would be shocked if we take him at #4.Has to be Richardson or Claiborne.We had this guy on the team a few years ago, hi BraylonI just listened to the interview. Oof. Here's some character traits that I came away with for Mr. Blackmon:Missed it, I flip to Columbus radio when Hooley comes on. What did he say that came off so bad?Heard Blackmon on the radio with Hooley... guy sounds like an #######
-Aloof
-Uninformed
-Noncommital
-Unemotional
Couldn't really name one coach he met with when he visited.
Seems like the type of player that will quit when things are bad. Or he could have been intentionally behaving this way because he doesn't want to play here.
Hooley: "Do you want to be a Cleveland Brown?"
Blackmon: "I want to be a Cleveland Brown if they want me to be a Cleveland Brown"
mind tossing some updates?
media doing its best to pry info...Heckert doing his best to hide team's intentionsHe did say they have a clear cut order on their top 4 guys.
I'm coming away with they know exactly what they are doing with the 4th pick, barring trade. Like you said, no ties in their early rankings.Blackmon is a great kid and great football player.Highly unlikely we move up to #3 to get our #3 rated player (assuming Luck/RG3 1/2).
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Rizzo on WKNR speculating the two players are Richardson and Claiborne. I agree.
Seems like it. But
It's Rich or Blackmon.If Kalil slips we burn the phones to move back and get Floyd. If we don't get an offer we like, see above.As much as I like Rich I think we really need to go Blackmon or Floyd and look at RB between picks 22 and 100.
Love draft talk.Love how fans of the same team can see so many different aspects or situations.I for one think Blackmon is not an option. I think if Kalil falls to 4, we draft him 100% over Richardson.But in the end, TRich goes #4 to us, would be my final guess.
haha. I see what you're saying... We need offense, without question.But Kalil... oof... He's once in a blue moon type of a guy. In this scenario, Id be happy with whomever we take.but Im with ya on wanting Richardson, for no other reason than we were lame in the free agent pool.If it's Kalil or Rich and we go Kalil I'll be doing a lot of this
