Cleveland Browns (3 Viewers)

[wadegarrett]

@MaryKayCabot#Browns GM Heckert said "We'll get 1 of our top 2 guys'' if stay at 4. Seems like top two are Blackmon and Richardson, but he woudn't say

Not sure why MK keeps pimping Blackmon. I just don't see it.

 

[rizzler]

Seeing Dez drop as far as he did... I'd be furious if we wasted a #4 on Blackmon.

Blackmon is no Dez, but seems to share a similar attitude.

No thanks. There are better WRs in this draft, IMO

 

[MAC_32]

If it's Kalil or Rich and we go Kalil I'll be doing a lot of this

haha. I see what you're saying... We need offense, without question.But Kalil... oof... He's once in a blue moon type of a guy. In this scenario, Id be happy with whomever we take.but Im with ya on wanting Richardson, for no other reason than we were lame in the free agent pool.

RT's can be found later, we aren't in a position to pay for a premium one. If we take him our 3 best offensive players never touch the ball except for one right before the snap. That won't help us be any more watchable this year. And I want Blackmon more than Rich. Even though I like Rich more. The difference between those 2 are off set by the difference between Doug Martin and the land mine WR's after the top 3 and I'm believing more and more that none of them fall.All that said I just hope Minny does pass on Kalil so we can offer him up in a trade and get Michael Floyd + extra picks.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Heard Blackmon on the radio with Hooley... guy sounds like an #######

Missed it, I flip to Columbus radio when Hooley comes on. What did he say that came off so bad?

I just listened to the interview. Oof. Here's some character traits that I came away with for Mr. Blackmon:

-Aloof

-Uninformed

-Noncommital

-Unemotional

Couldn't really name one coach he met with when he visited.

Seems like the type of player that will quit when things are bad. Or he could have been intentionally behaving this way because he doesn't want to play here.

Hooley: "Do you want to be a Cleveland Brown?"

Blackmon: "I want to be a Cleveland Brown if they want me to be a Cleveland Brown"

We had this guy on the team a few years ago, hi Braylon

Would be shocked if we take him at #4.Has to be Richardson or Claiborne.

I agree and I'm leaning Claiborne.

 

[beer 30]

I'm thinking Richardson, he keeps saying offense and scoring points. You take a WR you still need to get him the ball, you take a RB, here's 30 touches a game. Welcome to Cleveland TRich, love you already.

 

[Village Idiot]

If it's Kalil or Rich and we go Kalil I'll be doing a lot of this

haha. I see what you're saying... We need offense, without question.But Kalil... oof... He's once in a blue moon type of a guy. In this scenario, Id be happy with whomever we take.

but Im with ya on wanting Richardson, for no other reason than we were lame in the free agent pool.

RT's can be found later, we aren't in a position to pay for a premium one. If we take him our 3 best offensive players never touch the ball except for one right before the snap. That won't help us be any more watchable this year. And I want Blackmon more than Rich. Even though I like Rich more. The difference between those 2 are off set by the difference between Doug Martin and the land mine WR's after the top 3 and I'm believing more and more that none of them fall.

All that said I just hope Minny does pass on Kalil so we can offer him up in a trade and get Michael Floyd + extra picks.

I'm in favor of this scenario.Add a WR1, get Martin, then go after a RT and have an extra pick(s) from moving down.

 

[NJDawgPound]

If it's Kalil or Rich and we go Kalil I'll be doing a lot of this

haha. I see what you're saying... We need offense, without question.But Kalil... oof... He's once in a blue moon type of a guy. In this scenario, Id be happy with whomever we take.

but Im with ya on wanting Richardson, for no other reason than we were lame in the free agent pool.

RT's can be found later, we aren't in a position to pay for a premium one. If we take him our 3 best offensive players never touch the ball except for one right before the snap. That won't help us be any more watchable this year. And I want Blackmon more than Rich. Even though I like Rich more. The difference between those 2 are off set by the difference between Doug Martin and the land mine WR's after the top 3 and I'm believing more and more that none of them fall.

All that said I just hope Minny does pass on Kalil so we can offer him up in a trade and get Michael Floyd + extra picks.

I'm in favor of this scenario.Add a WR1, get Martin, then go after a RT and have an extra pick(s) from moving down.

The more I think about it, the more I think we hold off on the RT until Round 3 where we grab Mitchell Schwartz, if he's gone, Zebrie Sanders.Heckert is always bloodthirsty for CBs, so I think we'll go RB, CB, WR with 4, 22, and 37.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

At this point it seems like everyone that covers the NFL has Richardson going to Cleveland. If it's a smokescreen, it's a good one.

 

[rizzler]

Browns GM Tom Heckert disputes a report from SI's Peter King that he "loves" Oklahoma State WR Justin Blackmon.

King's report stated that Blackmon "would be his pick" at No. 4 if Heckert wasn't overruled by president Mike Holmgren. "I haven't spoken to Peter King in years so I have no idea where that came from," Heckert said. "Everything you have heard is complete nonsense. It's just this time of year and I understand that." Look for the Browns to select Alabama RB Trent Richardson. Assured Heckert, "Everybody is on the same page here with who we are considering."

Peter King, meet Heckert's sack.

 

[NJDawgPound]

If it's Kalil or Rich and we go Kalil I'll be doing a lot of this

haha. I see what you're saying... We need offense, without question.But Kalil... oof... He's once in a blue moon type of a guy. In this scenario, Id be happy with whomever we take.

but Im with ya on wanting Richardson, for no other reason than we were lame in the free agent pool.

Kalil is good, but he isn't a once in a blue moon type. If you're going to pick a tackle that high, you want it all. You need strength, size, arm length, quickness off the snap, and a highlight reel. You need the ability to excel at both tackle spots. Kalil is lacking strength.

I think Tyron Smith is a better prospect and he went at 9 last year.

That said, I wouldn't like it too much and it wouldn't be exciting, but the line would be above average for a long time so long as Pinkston and Lauvao are adequate at the guard spots.

 

[beer 30]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d8286fc53/article/ohio-states-mike-adams-had-positive-marijuana-test-at-combine

I will go play in traffic if he is wearing a Browns hat at anytime during the draft next week. Big ole marshmallow poof that hits the cronic, no thanks.

 

[NJDawgPound]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d8286fc53/article/ohio-states-mike-adams-had-positive-marijuana-test-at-combineI will go play in traffic if he is wearing a Browns hat at anytime during the draft next week. Big ole marshmallow poof that hits the cronic, no thanks.

RTs I want, in this order:1) Reiff if he slips to 222) Martin (although I think he's more of a top of the second round talent)3) Massie 4) Glenn (although he's a project)5) Adams 6) Schwartz7) SandersEDIT: Forgot Allen from Illinois. Don't know too much about him although Walterfootball said he had a good combine.

 

[cheese]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d8286fc53/article/ohio-states-mike-adams-had-positive-marijuana-test-at-combine

I will go play in traffic if he is wearing a Browns hat at anytime during the draft next week. Big ole marshmallow poof that hits the cronic, no thanks.

RTs I want, in this order:1) Reiff if he slips to 22

2) Martin (although I think he's more of a top of the second round talent)

3) Massie

4) Glenn (although he's a project)

5) Adams

6) Schwartz

7) Sanders

EDIT: Forgot Allen from Illinois. Don't know too much about him although Walterfootball said he had a good combine.

Any chance Glenn is plug and play at guard and then develops into a tackle? It seems like some teams are talking about him as a guard and some are talking about him as a project OT. Could he be both?

 

[NJDawgPound]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d8286fc53/article/ohio-states-mike-adams-had-positive-marijuana-test-at-combine

I will go play in traffic if he is wearing a Browns hat at anytime during the draft next week. Big ole marshmallow poof that hits the cronic, no thanks.

RTs I want, in this order:1) Reiff if he slips to 22

2) Martin (although I think he's more of a top of the second round talent)

3) Massie

4) Glenn (although he's a project)

5) Adams

6) Schwartz

7) Sanders

EDIT: Forgot Allen from Illinois. Don't know too much about him although Walterfootball said he had a good combine.

Any chance Glenn is plug and play at guard and then develops into a tackle? It seems like some teams are talking about him as a guard and some are talking about him as a project OT. Could he be both?

Yes, I can see that. It's not the optimal situation for the Browns, but if they decide they satisfied with Oniel Cousins at RT and making the two guard spots a competition between Lauvao, Pinkston, and Glenn, I can see it with Glenn beating out one of them and grabbing a couple of starts at RT along the way.

 

[MAC_32]

Glenn does not project well as a tackle, he's a guard.

 

[NJDawgPound]

Glenn does not project well as a tackle, he's a guard.

I have no idea the reputation of draftek.com, but here is their take on Glenn:

Cordy Glenn has started 36 games at left guard, right guard and left tackle, but tops that versatility with surprising athleticism for a man his size. However, at his size, he may struggle with the speed rushers of the NFL and may project better as a right tackle or guard. As a pass-blocker, Glenn is smooth out of his stance and waits for the defender to come to him. He easily controls his college opponents with his long arms and exhibits good balance and lateral agility to mirror the defender. Opponents can rarely get past him and has an excellent anchor so bull rushes are futile. Glenn can get a bit lazy with his hand placement, making him vulnerable to swim moves. Glenn utilizes his size and strength as a drive blocker in the running game, as long as he stays with his fundamentals and not play too high or being late off the snap. Although he can miss with his initial punch and fail to push back his target, more often then not, he shows good hand placement and the leg drive to clear a hole. Glenn gets to the second level with good quickness, demonstrating ability to adjust his path to locate and attack his target. Exhibits quickness and fluidity when pulling from left guard to lead on the toss and counter. Compares to (Current NFL Player): Mike Iupati Strengths- Great utilization of size/mass and long arms- Powerful run blocker, gets to the second level well- Versatile player, having played both guard and tackle- Good footwork for a man his size, as he has played left tackle in college Weaknesses- Struggles with speed rushers, may be relegated to ROT or OG at next level - Can get lazy with technique, as he overpowers college competition - Needs to improve hand placement after initial punch - Inconsistent on initial drive off the ball (quickness)

Sounds to me at worst like a fill-in LT, average to above average RT, above average guard prospect.Nothing wrong with that if we find ourselves with a mid-second rounder. I suppose I'd be okay with it if he was our #37.

 

[MAC_32]

Those weaknesses above are why he can't play tackle. He's a monster of a human being, but when you add up his poor first step, slow lateral movement, and lazy technique he is going to get killed playing outside in the pros. He could probably transition to guard, but that's just a nice way of saying he's not a good tackle.

I think similar caliber talents will be available later.

 

[NJDawgPound]

Those weaknesses above are why he can't play tackle. He's a monster of a human being, but when you add up his poor first step, slow lateral movement, and lazy technique he is going to get killed playing outside in the pros. He could probably transition to guard, but that's just a nice way of saying he's not a good tackle.I think similar caliber talents will be available later.

I agree with you. If we needed a guard (we probably can use an upgrade but it's not urgent) he would be a nice choice. I have been looking at some mock drafts and Cordy Glenn is going as high as 10 to the Bills to be LT. Some have him going 10-20. I just don't see it. 2nd round, yeah, but top 10? Nope. But I guess that's why I buy textiles for a living rather than evaluate NFL talent.

 

[cheese]

Those weaknesses above are why he can't play tackle. He's a monster of a human being, but when you add up his poor first step, slow lateral movement, and lazy technique he is going to get killed playing outside in the pros. He could probably transition to guard, but that's just a nice way of saying he's not a good tackle.I think similar caliber talents will be available later.

Really interesting feedback, thanks guys.Good luck in your draft. I'm pretty sure you guys are headed down the right path with Richardson. A playmaker and an identity for your team is the combo Cleveland needs IMO.

 

[Village Idiot]

Those weaknesses above are why he can't play tackle. He's a monster of a human being, but when you add up his poor first step, slow lateral movement, and lazy technique he is going to get killed playing outside in the pros. He could probably transition to guard, but that's just a nice way of saying he's not a good tackle.I think similar caliber talents will be available later.

Someone will take him in the 1st round.It should be late 1st round.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Lauvao and Pinkston will hopefully continue to improve as they gain more experience and strength. That said, if the value is right and he's the BPA, drafting a high level Guard with the 22nd pick wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Sure, they need a RT, but they also need depth on the O-line and nothing wrong with upgrading talent at a position.

Looks like Kendall Wright with the 22nd pick is out the door.

Mike Adams has proven to be mediocre, lazy, and an idiot time and time again. If a team drafts this guy before the 3rd round, then they get what they deserve. Personally, I wouldn't touch him before the 6th round.

 

[MAC_32]

Lauvao and Pinkston will hopefully continue to improve as they gain more experience and strength. That said, if the value is right and he's the BPA, drafting a high level Guard with the 22nd pick wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Sure, they need a RT, but they also need depth on the O-line and nothing wrong with upgrading talent at a position.

This is why I think we're not looking at the offensive line until the mid rounds unless an obvious value falls. Let Lauvao, Pinkston, and another mid round pick battle for LG and RT. Use the early picks on other positions.

Looks like Kendall Wright with the 22nd pick is out the door.

Based on this pre draft smoke screen? I think it presents an excellent buying opportunity.

Mike Adams has proven to be mediocre, lazy, and an idiot time and time again. If a team drafts this guy before the 3rd round, then they get what they deserve. Personally, I wouldn't touch him before the 6th round.

 

[rizzler]

Can we focus on who will be buying a Richardson jersey?

ME ME ME!!!!

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Looks like Kendall Wright with the 22nd pick is out the door.

Based on this pre draft smoke screen? I think it presents an excellent buying opportunity.

I hope you're right. These are the #s that stood out to me. You're more in tune with college football and the NFL draft than I am, so I'll post my concerns and hang up and listen.4.61 - 40 yard dash4 reps - Bench press16% Body fat.Didn't particpate in all the drills at the combine.I did a little reading and the only thing I could confirm was the 4.61 40 yard dash and the fact that he did not participate in all the drills at the combine. That said, I've read numerous articles and heard numerous sports analysts "confirm" that Wright looked overweight and out of shape. I've heard many comments like, "He looked pudgy" and "he was sucking wind after only a few drills." Granted, a lot of smoke is blown this time of year, but some of the #s seem to confirm that he sat on the couch and ate too many donuts.I did not watch the combine, nor do I know much about this kid other than he was a successful WR for Baylor. If this is just a hiccup and he passed the interview test, then I suppose I could give him a mulligan. But I'm not sure that Wright's situation, if true, and the Browns current situation are marriage material. Or, maybe it's just me that is leery of the Browns fooling around with a guy who allegedly has no work ethic.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Can we focus on who will be buying a Richardson jersey?ME ME ME!!!!

Still think it's Claiborne if Heckert stands pat, but I would welcome Richardson with open arms.

 

[NJDawgPound]

Looks like Kendall Wright with the 22nd pick is out the door.

Based on this pre draft smoke screen? I think it presents an excellent buying opportunity.

I hope you're right. These are the #s that stood out to me. You're more in tune with college football and the NFL draft than I am, so I'll post my concerns and hang up and listen.4.61 - 40 yard dash4 reps - Bench press16% Body fat.Didn't particpate in all the drills at the combine.I did a little reading and the only thing I could confirm was the 4.61 40 yard dash and the fact that he did not participate in all the drills at the combine. That said, I've read numerous articles and heard numerous sports analysts "confirm" that Wright looked overweight and out of shape. I've heard many comments like, "He looked pudgy" and "he was sucking wind after only a few drills." Granted, a lot of smoke is blown this time of year, but some of the #s seem to confirm that he sat on the couch and ate too many donuts.I did not watch the combine, nor do I know much about this kid other than he was a successful WR for Baylor. If this is just a hiccup and he passed the interview test, then I suppose I could give him a mulligan. But I'm not sure that Wright's situation, if true, and the Browns current situation are marriage material. Or, maybe it's just me that is leery of the Browns fooling around with a guy who allegedly has no work ethic.

Kind of like the reverse situation as Alshon Jeffrey. He had weight problems but shaped up for pro day. Jeffrey looks the part, Wright doesn't. I could live with Jeffrey at 37. I'm off the Wright bandwagon.I believe Mac mentioned Criner. I like him as well.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Looks like Kendall Wright with the 22nd pick is out the door.

Based on this pre draft smoke screen? I think it presents an excellent buying opportunity.

I hope you're right. These are the #s that stood out to me. You're more in tune with college football and the NFL draft than I am, so I'll post my concerns and hang up and listen.4.61 - 40 yard dash4 reps - Bench press16% Body fat.Didn't particpate in all the drills at the combine.I did a little reading and the only thing I could confirm was the 4.61 40 yard dash and the fact that he did not participate in all the drills at the combine. That said, I've read numerous articles and heard numerous sports analysts "confirm" that Wright looked overweight and out of shape. I've heard many comments like, "He looked pudgy" and "he was sucking wind after only a few drills." Granted, a lot of smoke is blown this time of year, but some of the #s seem to confirm that he sat on the couch and ate too many donuts.I did not watch the combine, nor do I know much about this kid other than he was a successful WR for Baylor. If this is just a hiccup and he passed the interview test, then I suppose I could give him a mulligan. But I'm not sure that Wright's situation, if true, and the Browns current situation are marriage material. Or, maybe it's just me that is leery of the Browns fooling around with a guy who allegedly has no work ethic.

Kind of like the reverse situation as Alshon Jeffrey. He had weight problems but shaped up for pro day. Jeffrey looks the part, Wright doesn't. I could live with Jeffrey at 37. I'm off the Wright bandwagon.I believe Mac mentioned Criner. I like him as well.

I didn't explain myself clearly with the "marriage material" comment, but my point is that I'm not sure Heckert and company will be fooling around with talented guys with "issues" this year. I tend to think that Heckert will go after guys who want to play and can play. To quote Hank Williams Jr., "The Pressure Is On."

 

[nxmehta]

Kendall Wright is a 3rd rounder at best...

 

[nxmehta]

Is the PD stealing my posts or something?

http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2012/04/most_all-pros_are_found_in_fir.html

 

[daveR]

Is the PD stealing my posts or something?

http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2012/04/most_all-pros_are_found_in_fir.html

In a related story... (here)Seriously, unless these professionals are paid the big bucks to guess, the best players will be taken first.

I am convinced though, that a lot of columnists visit these boards!

 

[daveR]

Can we focus on who will be buying a Richardson jersey?

ME ME ME!!!!

Still think it's Claiborne if Heckert stands pat, but I would welcome Richardson with open arms.

I still want Kalil.The biggest problems with the offense revolve around the inability to block. Open holes and "touchdown" Tommy Vardell could score. Keep pass rushers at bay and Seneca Wallace could complete passes to MoMass.

Don't tell me a quality blocker isn't an impact player, just show me an offense that clicks without them.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Can we focus on who will be buying a Richardson jersey?

ME ME ME!!!!

Still think it's Claiborne if Heckert stands pat, but I would welcome Richardson with open arms.

I still want Kalil.The biggest problems with the offense revolve around the inability to block. Open holes and "touchdown" Tommy Vardell could score. Keep pass rushers at bay and Seneca Wallace could complete passes to MoMass.

Don't tell me a quality blocker isn't an impact player, just show me an offense that clicks without them.

Would you rather have Richardson and Cordy Glenn/Jon Martin or Kalil and Doug Martin?Kalil is a LT(doesn't have the strength to play RT), Cleveland already has Joe Thomas.

 

[rizzler]

IF Kalil is available, I don't see the Browns trading down, instead they'll take him.

And ya, I know we have Joe at LT. But I guess unlike some ppl, I think Kalil could still be top cheese at RT.

Maybe the Browns do as well? We'll know on Thursday.

I still think the Vikes take Kalil... Passing on him would just be... plain dumb.

In which case, we go for the guy we wanted all along... TRICH.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

IF Kalil is available, I don't see the Browns trading down, instead they'll take him.

And ya, I know we have Joe at LT. But I guess unlike some ppl, I think Kalil could still be top cheese at RT.

Maybe the Browns do as well? We'll know on Thursday.

I still think the Vikes take Kalil... Passing on him would just be... plain dumb.

In which case, we go for the guy we wanted all along... TRICH.

If the Browns take Kalil...Thomas might be a better RT than Kalil.Then you guys take a WR/RB 22/2nd round and take Matt Barkley in 2013

 

[Tecumseh]

My dream day:

1.Trade the 4 to Pukesburg for Wallace

2.Trade the 22 and a 3rd and next years first to TB for the 5 and grab Richardson

3.Trade one of our 2nd's to NE for Mallett

4.Use the other 2nd for a RT

5.Profit?

 

[wadegarrett]

My dream day:

1.Trade the 4 to Pukesburg for Wallace

2.Trade the 22 and a 3rd and next years first to TB for the 5 and grab Richardson

3.Trade one of our 2nd's to NE for Mallett

4.Use the other 2nd for a RT

5.Profit?

We only have one 2nd rounder.

 

[MAC_32]

Can we focus on who will be buying a Richardson jersey?

ME ME ME!!!!

Still think it's Claiborne if Heckert stands pat, but I would welcome Richardson with open arms.

I still want Kalil.The biggest problems with the offense revolve around the inability to block. Open holes and "touchdown" Tommy Vardell could score. Keep pass rushers at bay and Seneca Wallace could complete passes to MoMass.

Don't tell me a quality blocker isn't an impact player, just show me an offense that clicks without them.

How many good offenses have top 5 picks at LT and RT? What rounds were their RT's and LT's picked in?

 

[NJDawgPound]

My dream day:1.Trade the 4 to Pukesburg for Wallace2.Trade the 22 and a 3rd and next years first to TB for the 5 and grab Richardson3.Trade one of our 2nd's to NE for Mallett4.Use the other 2nd for a RT5.Profit?

:mindf###:It would be talked about for years. 1) I wish we could have signed Wallace for the #22, but the rules didn't allow it. The thing is they could have already signed Wallace and gave up the #4 all along and didn't.2) Sure, why not. Richardson and Wallace give this team instant weapons.3) We only have one #2, the 37th pick. We'd have to use that for Mallett. I would.4) We'll have the 4th pick of the 3rd round to grab our RT. Probably Mitchell Schwartz, the kid from Illinois, or maybe even Bobbie Massie if he slips. Here's where I wish they would have opened the pocketbook and signed Eric Winston.Heckert is creative, but this is blockbuster. Ballsy. I love it. We need playmakers and moxie, especially on offense, and this give us both.

 

[MAC_32]

Here's where I wish they would have opened the pocketbook and signed Eric Winston.

I had heard his agent told the Browns not to bother, he doesn't want to come here.

 

[rizzler]

Here's where I wish they would have opened the pocketbook and signed Eric Winston.

I had heard his agent told the Browns not to bother, he doesn't want to come here.

who doesn't wanna play here? honestly, this is why Richardson would be such a great move... If he pans out like we all believe he will, players may be more willing to sign with an up and coming team with a Superstar RB at the helm. at least gives us some legitimacy

 

[NJDawgPound]

Here's where I wish they would have opened the pocketbook and signed Eric Winston.

I had heard his agent told the Browns not to bother, he doesn't want to come here.

I swear to God, this happens with all four of my favorite sports teams.

 

[rizzler]

Here's where I wish they would have opened the pocketbook and signed Eric Winston.

I had heard his agent told the Browns not to bother, he doesn't want to come here.

I swear to God, this happens with all four of my favorite sports teams.

Browns. Raptors. Blue jays. Maple Leafs.wanna try and top that?

 

[MAC_32]

Here's where I wish they would have opened the pocketbook and signed Eric Winston.

I had heard his agent told the Browns not to bother, he doesn't want to come here.

who doesn't wanna play here? honestly, this is why Richardson would be such a great move... If he pans out like we all believe he will, players may be more willing to sign with an up and coming team with a Superstar RB at the helm. at least gives us some legitimacy

Agreed.As much as I think it'd be best for us to move around and find a way to get both Michael Floyd and Doug Martin while also having additional top 100 picks to find a RT, CB, and better depth up front it's probably best to just take Rich and establish an identity around him. Establish an ounce of respect around the league and maybe free agents will start considering us again.

 

[NJDawgPound]

Here's where I wish they would have opened the pocketbook and signed Eric Winston.

I had heard his agent told the Browns not to bother, he doesn't want to come here.

I swear to God, this happens with all four of my favorite sports teams.

Browns. Raptors. Blue jays. Maple Leafs.wanna try and top that?

Browns, Nets, Astros, Islanders.ETA: Players line up to play for the Leafs so you're DQ'ed (except John Tavares ).

 

[rizzler]

Here's where I wish they would have opened the pocketbook and signed Eric Winston.

I had heard his agent told the Browns not to bother, he doesn't want to come here.

I swear to God, this happens with all four of my favorite sports teams.

Browns. Raptors. Blue jays. Maple Leafs.wanna try and top that?

Browns, Nets, Astros, Islanders.ETA: Players line up to play for the Leafs so you're DQ'ed.

OOOF... what decade you living in?Players do everything to avoid this hockey hellhole.

no winning, no playoffs, and a media and fanbase that will murder you over anything.

we're the plague of the NHL

 

[NJDawgPound]

Here's where I wish they would have opened the pocketbook and signed Eric Winston.

I had heard his agent told the Browns not to bother, he doesn't want to come here.

who doesn't wanna play here? honestly, this is why Richardson would be such a great move... If he pans out like we all believe he will, players may be more willing to sign with an up and coming team with a Superstar RB at the helm. at least gives us some legitimacy

Agreed.As much as I think it'd be best for us to move around and find a way to get both Michael Floyd and Doug Martin while also having additional top 100 picks to find a RT, CB, and better depth up front it's probably best to just take Rich and establish an identity around him. Establish an ounce of respect around the league and maybe free agents will start considering us again.

I know he carries a ton of baggage, but if we get a nice assortment of RB, WR, and RT in our first three picks, I would LOVE to see them package the third and maybe a fourth to get back into the mid-late second round to grab Janoris Jenkins. Joe Haden, a UF guy as well, would be a great mentor and many say this guy's talent is almost at the level of Mo Claiborne. I would LOVE a shutdown secondary to open other things up for the front 7.

 

[daveR]

Can we focus on who will be buying a Richardson jersey?

ME ME ME!!!!

Still think it's Claiborne if Heckert stands pat, but I would welcome Richardson with open arms.

I still want Kalil.The biggest problems with the offense revolve around the inability to block. Open holes and "touchdown" Tommy Vardell could score. Keep pass rushers at bay and Seneca Wallace could complete passes to MoMass.

Don't tell me a quality blocker isn't an impact player, just show me an offense that clicks without them.

How many good offenses have top 5 picks at LT and RT? What rounds were their RT's and LT's picked in?

Man, I don't care. This is a passing league now & you need quality tackles on both sides! (...IMHO )

 

[MAC_32]

Can we focus on who will be buying a Richardson jersey?

ME ME ME!!!!

Still think it's Claiborne if Heckert stands pat, but I would welcome Richardson with open arms.

I still want Kalil.The biggest problems with the offense revolve around the inability to block. Open holes and "touchdown" Tommy Vardell could score. Keep pass rushers at bay and Seneca Wallace could complete passes to MoMass.

Don't tell me a quality blocker isn't an impact player, just show me an offense that clicks without them.

How many good offenses have top 5 picks at LT and RT? What rounds were their RT's and LT's picked in?

Man, I don't care. This is a passing league now & you need quality tackles on both sides! (...IMHO )

You're nuts.

 

[Moniker]

Can we focus on who will be buying a Richardson jersey?

ME ME ME!!!!

Still think it's Claiborne if Heckert stands pat, but I would welcome Richardson with open arms.

I still want Kalil.The biggest problems with the offense revolve around the inability to block. Open holes and "touchdown" Tommy Vardell could score. Keep pass rushers at bay and Seneca Wallace could complete passes to MoMass.

Don't tell me a quality blocker isn't an impact player, just show me an offense that clicks without them.

How many good offenses have top 5 picks at LT and RT? What rounds were their RT's and LT's picked in?

Man, I don't care. This is a passing league now & you need quality tackles on both sides! (...IMHO )

You're nuts.

 

[beer 30]

Can we focus on who will be buying a Richardson jersey?

ME ME ME!!!!

Still think it's Claiborne if Heckert stands pat, but I would welcome Richardson with open arms.

I still want Kalil.The biggest problems with the offense revolve around the inability to block. Open holes and "touchdown" Tommy Vardell could score. Keep pass rushers at bay and Seneca Wallace could complete passes to MoMass.

Don't tell me a quality blocker isn't an impact player, just show me an offense that clicks without them.

How many good offenses have top 5 picks at LT and RT? What rounds were their RT's and LT's picked in?

Man, I don't care. This is a passing league now & you need quality tackles on both sides! (...IMHO )

You're nuts.

Dude's got Superhost as his avatar, give him a break.