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B-Deep
Footballguy
move up?move up where, to #2?Jesus H the guys at WKNR are panicking about Tampa jumping the Browns for Richardson."IF THAT HAPPENS YOU HAVE TO MOVE UP!"Nothing like a panic move the morning of the draft due to rumors!
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
They sound like a bunch of chicks. Turned it off.Jesus H the guys at WKNR are panicking about Tampa jumping the Browns for Richardson."IF THAT HAPPENS YOU HAVE TO MOVE UP!"Nothing like a panic move the morning of the draft due to rumors!
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Looks like TB wants to go back, not up.
NJDawgPound
Footballguy
2 1/2move up?move up where, to #2?Jesus H the guys at WKNR are panicking about Tampa jumping the Browns for Richardson."IF THAT HAPPENS YOU HAVE TO MOVE UP!"Nothing like a panic move the morning of the draft due to rumors!
B-Deep
Footballguy
lol2 1/2move up?move up where, to #2?Jesus H the guys at WKNR are panicking about Tampa jumping the Browns for Richardson."IF THAT HAPPENS YOU HAVE TO MOVE UP!"Nothing like a panic move the morning of the draft due to rumors!
Fallerjw
Footballguy
I disagree with the details of Jim Brown's comments, but the last part is interesting. Richardson sat behind Mark Ingram (even though he was arguably better). Ingram ended last year with almost 500 yards and averaged under 4 yards per carry.
I'm not saying Richardson won't be good, I just think you can have an effective running game without drafting a RB in the top 10.
The Browns have had a 1,000 yard rusher in 4 of the past 7 seasons (3 different players). If Hillis wasn't hurt last year and Harrison had been able to start 1 more game in 2009, we would probably have 6 of the past 7 seasons with 4 different rushers. The Browns can field an effective rushing game without Richardson, but I don't think they can field an effective passing game with projects like Stephen Hill or some of the other WRs available later in the draft. They need to land either Justin Blackmon or Michael Floyd, and it wouldn't hurt to get a really good TE. It also wouldn't hurt to draft Ryan Broyles in the 3rd or 4th round to play the #3 WR spot.
I won't hate the pick if it's Richardson, but I think they should get Blackmon or Floyd and then Doug Martin.
I'm not saying Richardson won't be good, I just think you can have an effective running game without drafting a RB in the top 10.
The Browns have had a 1,000 yard rusher in 4 of the past 7 seasons (3 different players). If Hillis wasn't hurt last year and Harrison had been able to start 1 more game in 2009, we would probably have 6 of the past 7 seasons with 4 different rushers. The Browns can field an effective rushing game without Richardson, but I don't think they can field an effective passing game with projects like Stephen Hill or some of the other WRs available later in the draft. They need to land either Justin Blackmon or Michael Floyd, and it wouldn't hurt to get a really good TE. It also wouldn't hurt to draft Ryan Broyles in the 3rd or 4th round to play the #3 WR spot.
I won't hate the pick if it's Richardson, but I think they should get Blackmon or Floyd and then Doug Martin.
amnesiac
beer is good
OK, last minute guesses everyone!
i'm going with... trade down.
sorry folks, the lack of a clear cut pick here means Heckert goes for the most value which means trading down a few spots and going BPA.
on the plus side, this will give them more picks to move up from the #22 and #37 to get the guys they really like later on.
i'm going with... trade down.
sorry folks, the lack of a clear cut pick here means Heckert goes for the most value which means trading down a few spots and going BPA.
on the plus side, this will give them more picks to move up from the #22 and #37 to get the guys they really like later on.
Peak
Footballguy
I want to see Richardson, but my gut is telling me Claiborne. Having said that, I missed lunch and my gut is telling me to get to B-dubs. Either way, I'll be happy. <Just say no to Tannehill at 4>
amnesiac
beer is good
wish i could join you. if it makes you feel any better, i really doubt they were ever looking at Tannehill at 4.
beer 30
Footballguy
Richardson or
Claiborne
WR whoever is best available
Weeden
Can't see them trading down unless Richardson is gone and someone overpays for the rights to Claiborne. Wouldn't be against a trade down if it kept us in the top 10, don't want to drop any further than that.
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Claiborne
WR whoever is best available
Weeden
Can't see them trading down unless Richardson is gone and someone overpays for the rights to Claiborne. Wouldn't be against a trade down if it kept us in the top 10, don't want to drop any further than that.
HO HO HO IT'S CHRISTMAS BABY!!!!!
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Tecumseh
Footballguy
What's better than a 6'6", 244lb TE from Stanford with great hands? A 6'6", 250lb TE from Stanford with great hands.
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Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Richardson
Wright
Weeden (I wouldn't but think it happens)
Wright
Weeden (I wouldn't but think it happens)
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
I agree.I think Minnesota grabs Claiborne or trades down, and then Buffalo phones Heckert and a deal is made.
If Minnesota sits pat and drafts Kalil, then I still think Claiborne is the pick. I'll be happy with Richardson or Claiborne. Obviously, Richardson is the sexier pick.
NJDawgPound
Footballguy
Wow, didn't realize that. Uncanny. Cool observation.Coby Fleener had a 4.46 40, Moore ran 4.67.
nxmehta
Footballguy
Browns trade up to 3. Cost is 4th, 5th, 7th. Utter panic move by Heckert. I don't think anyone else was going to trade up to get Richardson 
Better hope Heckert makes some moves back into the 1st/2nd round... I guess it's good we kept our 3rd rounder.
Better hope Heckert makes some moves back into the 1st/2nd round... I guess it's good we kept our 3rd rounder.
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GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
Wow.
RevDawg
Footballguy
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
Browns trade up to 3. Cost is our 3rd rounder. Utter panic move by Heckert. I don't think anyone else was going to trade up to get Richardson
Relax guy. Losing a 3rd round pick to get your guy is not bad. Still have 12 picks and 2 in the 4th.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Now reporting it as a 4,5, and a 7 to move to #3.
Sigh.
I like it better than a 3 but still think Heckert panic'd.
Sigh.
I like it better than a 3 but still think Heckert panic'd.
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
Did I just hear that right... ESPN doesn't know the details of the trade yet?
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
NFL channel reporting it was a 4, 5, and a 7.
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
If true, that's cheap.
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
I like it. #1 skill player who will have the biggest immediate impact on offense is now wearing a Cleveland Browns jersey.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
I sincerely hope it is Richardson and not some crazy other pick.
Watch us trade the 3 back down with Buffalo so they can take Kalil.
Actually that would make me
Watch us trade the 3 back down with Buffalo so they can take Kalil.
Actually that would make me
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
It's 2 4's, a 5 and a 7.
RevDawg
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
Great trade guys. Obviously Tampa Bay was trying to move up too. Your team has a guy that they really want. I"m assuming it's Richardson and if thats true, you guys have got a stud coming to you. Get a RT, and get Colt some more weapons, and the Browns are suddenly fun to watch perhaps!
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
That makes more sense. The 5th and 7th really don't even need mentioned... The Browns have what, Four 6th round and Four 7th round picks.... so Two 4th round picks to get his guy.... I'm fine with that.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
I'm excited if it is Richardson and now nervous about 22.
Nervous because I want a great player to be there.
Please let there be a run on DB's and D line.
Nervous because I want a great player to be there.
Please let there be a run on DB's and D line.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
I think Wright and Hill will be there for the plucking if the Browns want them.
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
Heckert still has ammo to move up with the second 1st. This could get interesting.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Still need WR's and a fix to RT.
I'm transfixed on the draft channel.
This is awesome.
I'm transfixed on the draft channel.
This is awesome.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Cleveland just became my 2nd favorite team. Hope you get a nice WR at 22.
Heatman
Footballguy
Actually I think it works for both teams. To secure who you want without a doubt it's really no that much. For the Vikings to move down and still have the 2 guys they like available it's a haul.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Richardson will be a HoFer he has been reverse Gunz'd.
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
If you don't like this trade, then you either don't like Trent Richardson or you're one of those people who ##### just to #####.
It wasn't much to give up.
It wasn't much to give up.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
+1000
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
I don't have the NFL Network, but I can't imagine their coverage could be any worse than ESPN.
