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amnesiac
beer is good
Michael Sam
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
B-Deep
Footballguy
eric rymer
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Or didnt want Johnson.something interestying to considerif you told me today CLE traded down from #4, Id still be pissed.Hey Soul............I told ya it wouldn't be so bad if we traded down out of that "elite" group:))))
You know you love Gilbert and that pretty looking 2015 1st.
we absolutely FLEECED buffalo to move down 5 spots. a 2015 1st and 4th... ya, I didnt see that coming.
Cant argue, I like it. It was a filthy move.
buf traded stevie johnson, if the browns knew they needed a WR they could have tried to work him in, but did not!
i am guessing they have other plans at WR
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Stevie Johnson is making $8 million a year. Last year he showed up to camp overweight and out of shape. Reports are the Buffalo coaches felt he was 'flaky'. They made a bold move-up to land Watkins and then immediately traded him away for not much considering his production.
Pettine coached in Buffalo last year. He would have the inside scoop on him.
We knew at the time we made the deal to move-down with Buffalo about Gordon's failed test so we 'probably' could have gotten him instead of that 2015 4th round pick.
We simply did not have the interest in him.
Pettine coached in Buffalo last year. He would have the inside scoop on him.
We knew at the time we made the deal to move-down with Buffalo about Gordon's failed test so we 'probably' could have gotten him instead of that 2015 4th round pick.
We simply did not have the interest in him.
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amnesiac
beer is good
yup. connect the dots.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Just thought of one guy who could help out the reciever corps if he's healthy.
TE Jeremiah Finley
He was/is a free agent. His knee is probably still not 100% but I think he is on schedule.
If he's healthy he would be a nice add IMHO.
Just a thought.
TE Jeremiah Finley
He was/is a free agent. His knee is probably still not 100% but I think he is on schedule.
If he's healthy he would be a nice add IMHO.
Just a thought.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
no to FInley.
I have a feeling there will be 5-10 halfway decent guys either released or traded cheaply over the next couple months. I would bet anything we get at least one
I have a feeling there will be 5-10 halfway decent guys either released or traded cheaply over the next couple months. I would bet anything we get at least one
amnesiac
beer is good
Finley is damaged goods at this point.i agree, Farmer will find someone serviceable for a year.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
@NFL_ATL: From @RapSheet on Total Access: Miles Austin and Santonio Holmes are two names for Browns fans to monitor at wide receiver.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
geeze, I think we have enough cap room to sign like 10 guys if we want for 1 year deals.
We better extend some contracts and get some of the money on the 2014 cap
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
2015 Browns Free Agents-
Rubin
Haden
Cameron
Hoyer
Sheard
Groves
Robertson
Burlson
Cundiff
Little
Ogbonnya
Thigpen
Pressley
Diles
Rubin
Haden
Cameron
Hoyer
Sheard
Groves
Robertson
Burlson
Cundiff
Little
Ogbonnya
Thigpen
Pressley
Diles
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The Man With No Name
Footballguy
They are $40 million+ under for 2015
http://overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Browns&Year=2015
They now have the most cap space for 2014
http://overthecap.com/nfl-cap-space.php?Year=2014
http://overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Browns&Year=2015
They now have the most cap space for 2014
http://overthecap.com/nfl-cap-space.php?Year=2014
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
mr fancypants
Footballguy
I also might include Pressley on that list if he turns out to be the FB we have been looking for.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Reports are he's doing well on his rehab and was cleared to practice. My mistake on his injury, it was his neck that needed fusing. Happened in the game we played against them but he's doing well from reports.
Reason I suggested him is redzone receiving threats which we currently have a grand total of TE Jordan Cameron. No WR redzone receiving threats on the club right now unless you want to count CJ (Charles Johnson).
Greg Little has always disappointed down near the goal line, Burleson couldn't make it out of mini-camp without re-fracturing his arm, what happens if he takes one-hit in a real game let alone all of the hits he'll take in camp/pre-season. Hawkins is not a big-tall redzone threat.
We will find WRs on the wire 'eventually' or make a minor trade but Finley is out there now as a free agent and he's a legit, big-tall-strong, redzone threat. That is something this offense lacks at the moment. We need that. If you shoot down Finley who ya got? Who>?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
The division as a whole had good solid drafts.
Here are the AFCN players drafted.
Thoughts?
BENGALS:
24. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State
55. RB Jeremy Hill, Louisiana State
88. DE Will Clarke, West Virginia
111. C/OG Russell Bodine, North Carolina
164. QB AJ McCarron, Alabama
212. OLB Marquis Flowers, Arizona
239. WR James Wright, Louisiana State
252. CB/FS Lavelle Westbrooks, Georgia Southern
BROWNS:
8. CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State
22. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M
35. OG Joel Bitonio, Nevada
71. ILB Christian Kirksey, Iowa
94. RB Terrance West, Towson
127. CB/FS Pierre Desir, Lindenwood
RAVENS:
17. ILB C.J. Mosley, Alabama
48. NT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State
79. FS Terrence Brooks, Florida State
99. TE Crockett Gillmore, Colorado State
134. DE Brent Urban, Virginia
138. RB Lorenzo Taliaferro, Coastal Carolina
175. OG John Urschel, Penn State
194. QB Keith Wenning, Ball State
218. WR Mike Campanaro, Wake Forest
STEELERS:
15. ILB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State
46. DE Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame
97. RB/WR Dri Archer, Kent State
118. WR Martavis Bryant, Clemson
157. CB Shaquille Richardson, Arizona
173. OT Wesley Johnson, Vanderbilt
192. ILB Jordan Zumwalt, UCLA
215. NT Daniel McCullers, Tennessee
230. TE Rob Blanchflower, Massachusetts
Here are the AFCN players drafted.
Thoughts?
BENGALS:
24. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State
55. RB Jeremy Hill, Louisiana State
88. DE Will Clarke, West Virginia
111. C/OG Russell Bodine, North Carolina
164. QB AJ McCarron, Alabama
212. OLB Marquis Flowers, Arizona
239. WR James Wright, Louisiana State
252. CB/FS Lavelle Westbrooks, Georgia Southern
BROWNS:
8. CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State
22. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M
35. OG Joel Bitonio, Nevada
71. ILB Christian Kirksey, Iowa
94. RB Terrance West, Towson
127. CB/FS Pierre Desir, Lindenwood
RAVENS:
17. ILB C.J. Mosley, Alabama
48. NT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State
79. FS Terrence Brooks, Florida State
99. TE Crockett Gillmore, Colorado State
134. DE Brent Urban, Virginia
138. RB Lorenzo Taliaferro, Coastal Carolina
175. OG John Urschel, Penn State
194. QB Keith Wenning, Ball State
218. WR Mike Campanaro, Wake Forest
STEELERS:
15. ILB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State
46. DE Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame
97. RB/WR Dri Archer, Kent State
118. WR Martavis Bryant, Clemson
157. CB Shaquille Richardson, Arizona
173. OT Wesley Johnson, Vanderbilt
192. ILB Jordan Zumwalt, UCLA
215. NT Daniel McCullers, Tennessee
230. TE Rob Blanchflower, Massachusetts
The first couple Steelers picks are going to recharge that D. If I had to rank based on overall value at the given draft slots:
1. Browns (Really like the value on Bitonio, West, and Desir + Bills trade was a homerun)
2. Steelers (Archer might be a reach, but Bryant could be big hit)
3. Bengals (Nothing really stands out to me, other than thinking McCarron pick was a waste)
4. Ravens (As a FSU fan, skeptical how Jernigan translates to NFL)
Ravens will most likely prove me wrong given their draft track record, but I don't see it at the moment.
eric rymer
Footballguy
Lets not forget that the Bills have not drafted outside of the 12th pick in almost 10 years. Huge added bonus IMO.
amnesiac
beer is good
Peyton Manning aside, i think neck injuries are much more serious than most people.
one name that comes to mind that may come cheap enough and could use a fresh start is Denarius Moore of the Radiers.
maybe someone like that who has fallen out of favor with their team but still has a pretty good skill set could be a good fit for the Browns?
one name that comes to mind that may come cheap enough and could use a fresh start is Denarius Moore of the Radiers.
maybe someone like that who has fallen out of favor with their team but still has a pretty good skill set could be a good fit for the Browns?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Finley's neck was more scary when it happened but he wasn't hurt as bad as originally thought. It wasn't a case of him being on his fourth surgery and thirteenth NFL season as a player in his late 30s.
He had successful surger and all reports have been good and he's already cleared to practice.
Demarius Moore isn't a red-zone weapon, Finley is.
He's available and we are in need. Its not like we've got loads of options so you can't nit-pick due to injury especially when the guy is cleared. Why not take a shot? He won't/can't demand a huge long term contract so we could get him on a one-year prove-it agreement but if he plays well we can extend him.
Again who is your red-zone weapon if not Finley?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
eric rymer
Footballguy
If I had just been drafted I would tell everyone that the team that took me is exactly where I wanted to be too. Honestly, I don't think this means much at all.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 10m
Browns, Joe Haden agree to new contract through 2019 http://wp.me/p14QSB-9tPl
Browns, Joe Haden agree to new contract through 2019 http://wp.me/p14QSB-9tPl
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Good job Ray.
With the draft being pushed back so far we need to get going on those draft picks signed so getting Haden out of the way is FANTASTIC NEWS!
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And this is the thing that the media is picking up with Bridgewater's comments.
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Luke Easterling@NFLDraftReport2 hrs
Bridgewater: "I actually told my agent that that's not the place I want to be." #Browns
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After his poor Pro Day he was asked how he felt he did and he said he did good when it was obvious to everyone he did not have a good Pro Day. That stood out to me, I didn't like those comments. If he had a good Pro Day and said that I would have no problem but when he had a poor Pro Day and said that I just didn't like it.
He's only 21, so he has room to mature but right now maybe he is a bit immature and the reason why he fell could be tied into the reports that he didn't impress during the interview process.
Manziel is impressing me in every interview he's done. He's handling the circus and he's already been slammed by Roethesberger for being too-small to play in the AFCN and from others but he's handled it pretty well AFIC.
I'm not going to slam Bridgewater but I do recall how I didn't like his comments that he did good at his Pro Day and now I see absolutely no reason for him to publically say anything negative about the Browns.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Bloppenstein
Footballguy
Haden has been money for CLE since drafting him . It's alot of money guarenteed but for once, a high quality player gets drafted by CLE and they WANT to stay for a second contract!
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On the topic of WR, I would think the Browns would reach out to Jax and see how available Cecil Shorts is going to be and the cost
He is from Cleveland and with Jax drafting 2 top tier rookie WR with Bortles, and getting rid of MJD, Jax could be in a clean out and reshape the frachise mode
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On the topic of WR, I would think the Browns would reach out to Jax and see how available Cecil Shorts is going to be and the cost
He is from Cleveland and with Jax drafting 2 top tier rookie WR with Bortles, and getting rid of MJD, Jax could be in a clean out and reshape the frachise mode
Andre Johnson on Texans: Is this still the place for me?The Browns have the need, the cap space, and the picks to make this happen.
In the immortal words of Patrick Stewart, "Make it so".
In the immortal words of Patrick Stewart, "Make it so".
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I seriously doubt they're willing to part with him. He's their WR1 and is still on his rookie contract.
amnesiac
beer is good
interesting.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
National media up in arms Browns won't let them attend rookie minicamp. Local media only. Twitter blowing up about it.
amnesiac
beer is good
and that is likely why they made that decision.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I think they are doing it because it would just be unbearably annoying.
Whoever brought up Cecil Shorts.........he would be GREAT to get here, I just don't think Jacksonville would have any interest in trading him for any sort of price we would be willing to pay. He is their #1 WR, young, and not expensive. Yeah they got two rookies, but wasn't there some other team that drafted two WRs in the 2nd round and that didn't exactly turn out so well...................cough cough.................................in all seriousness though, I can't see them dealing Shorts.
eric rymer
Footballguy
I'd say you're right. Looks like an extension is on the horizon.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/14/jaguars-talking-extension-with-cecil-shorts/
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Bloppenstein
Footballguy
It was I who brought up Cecil Shorts, lol.... and yeah its more of a distant reach than anything but thought I'd throw that in the discussion. Yeah that Robiske, Massaquoi draft was ummm.. yeah
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
From yesterday.
The Jags are working on extending Shorts.
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Hays Carlyon@HaysCarlyonFollow
Dave Caldwell tells me #Jaguars want Cecil Shorts here long term, have had discussions about new deal.
11:51 AM - 13 May 2014
The Jags are working on extending Shorts.
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Hays Carlyon@HaysCarlyonFollow
Dave Caldwell tells me #Jaguars want Cecil Shorts here long term, have had discussions about new deal.
11:51 AM - 13 May 2014
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Now I want shorts even more. Thanks a lot, lol.
