Commish can see all trade offers (1 Viewer)

[joey]

Are you on MFL? If so, there is an option for the commish to lock himself OUT of this option. And if he changes it, it will send an email out to all owners.

Is the commissioner notified of an accepted trade offer if this lock out feature is chosen on MFL while at the same time the league uses the "commissioner must approve all trades" option?

One has nothing to do with the other.

I assumed that there might be a relationship because currently we do not have the lock out (not my idea but the original league setting) and I'm not notified of trade offers. In fact, about the only reason I log in as commish is to check the review trades section to see if a deal has been done. The real joke is we average about one trade per year so it's a waste of my time mostly. Or is there somewhere else where I'm informed of deals that is unknown to me?

There's a setting that you can turn on in your Team Page -> Contact Info called "New Poll Created (including trade polls and scheduling league events)". That will send you notification of any accepted trade whether you're commish or not. In fact, one of the very rare times we've ever turned OFF commish lockout was so that I could go through and turn this setting ON for every single owner since there was always the same group of 7 or 8 of us voting on any polls in our league. Turning this on for all owners at least guaranteed that they were notified that a poll was posted. (for the record, lockout was immediately turned back on after this change was made).

 

[Fear The Turtle]

Are you on MFL? If so, there is an option for the commish to lock himself OUT of this option. And if he changes it, it will send an email out to all owners.

Is the commissioner notified of an accepted trade offer if this lock out feature is chosen on MFL while at the same time the league uses the "commissioner must approve all trades" option?

One has nothing to do with the other.

I assumed that there might be a relationship because currently we do not have the lock out (not my idea but the original league setting) and I'm not notified of trade offers. In fact, about the only reason I log in as commish is to check the review trades section to see if a deal has been done. The real joke is we average about one trade per year so it's a waste of my time mostly. Or is there somewhere else where I'm informed of deals that is unknown to me?

There's a setting that you can turn on in your Team Page -> Contact Info called "New Poll Created (including trade polls and scheduling league events)". That will send you notification of any accepted trade whether you're commish or not. In fact, one of the very rare times we've ever turned OFF commish lockout was so that I could go through and turn this setting ON for every single owner since there was always the same group of 7 or 8 of us voting on any polls in our league. Turning this on for all owners at least guaranteed that they were notified that a poll was posted. (for the record, lockout was immediately turned back on after this change was made).

Not to sound too obtuse here (too late) but, after making that setting change, I, as an owner, will be able to see accepted trades that have not yet been approved by the commissioner, right? I then can log on as commish and approve the trade and log off. TIA for answering this and, especially, TIA for not asking why I don't remove the "commissioner approval" setting.

 

[GregR]

Can an MFL commish also see weekly waivers that are submitted by each owner? I think that would be where there's the most potential for shady behavior if it is.

If the lockout is left off, then a commish can do anything for anyt eam that the owner can. So if you as an owner can go look and see what your own waiver submissions are, can see your predraft list, can submit draft picks and waiver claims, can see your own trade offers and make trade offers, then a commish can see and do all of that too. When a commish goes into any For Owner-> menu item, it gives him a pull down of which team to perform the action as, after which it's just like he was logged in as the owner.If the lockout is turned on, then the commish if he goes into an Owner function gets the message "League Commissioner Cannot Perform Owner Functions With The Commissioner Lockout Option Turned On."

 

[GregR]

Are you on MFL? If so, there is an option for the commish to lock himself OUT of this option. And if he changes it, it will send an email out to all owners.

Is the commissioner notified of an accepted trade offer if this lock out feature is chosen on MFL while at the same time the league uses the "commissioner must approve all trades" option?

One has nothing to do with the other.

I assumed that there might be a relationship because currently we do not have the lock out (not my idea but the original league setting) and I'm not notified of trade offers. In fact, about the only reason I log in as commish is to check the review trades section to see if a deal has been done. The real joke is we average about one trade per year so it's a waste of my time mostly. Or is there somewhere else where I'm informed of deals that is unknown to me?

There's a setting that you can turn on in your Team Page -> Contact Info called "New Poll Created (including trade polls and scheduling league events)". That will send you notification of any accepted trade whether you're commish or not. In fact, one of the very rare times we've ever turned OFF commish lockout was so that I could go through and turn this setting ON for every single owner since there was always the same group of 7 or 8 of us voting on any polls in our league. Turning this on for all owners at least guaranteed that they were notified that a poll was posted. (for the record, lockout was immediately turned back on after this change was made).

Realize the Poll thing would only be an option for leagues which put all league trades up to a vote. Since that whole concept is pretty out of favor because it allows owners to kill a trade just so an opponent doesn't get better, it won't work for many leagues.In any event, there is an actual option for being notified of Trades that doesn't have anything to do with League Polls. Just go into your Franchise and choose "Contact Info" and there is a list of things you want to be notified for. One of them is "Trade Proposals/Results (not including trade polls)". That will notify you of any proposal made to you, and also notify you of any trade made by any team.

 

[Cato]

It should without question be turned off-at the very least to avoid any appearance of impropriety.

The question isn't what shady things could be done or do I trust my commish, the issue is avoiding even having to think about asking such questions. Is the door open? Who went through the door? What does the door allow them to do? Who cares, locked at all times, there's no need to question anything. People that want the door left unlocked... mmm.

 

[KCitons]

I am the Commish for a 16 team contract/salary/idp league. I keep the Commish lockout on as much as possible. It just eliminates any doubt about shady activities by a Commish. However, with our league, we are able to make offers to players on other teams practice squad. The only way to move players from one team to another, is to turn the Commish Lockout off. I wish there was a way to work around this. So, I turn it off, do my business, and turn it back on as soon as possible. I also try to post in the message board, the reason why the Lockout was turned off.

Also in our league, we hold Blind Bidding from 8PM Thursday until 8PM Wednesday. So, if I have any adjustments or Roster moves to make, I try to do them on Thursday morning. (When it's not possible to make a bid anyway)

I have been in leagues where the Commish was dishonest. I tried to make my league as transparent as possible.

 

[GregR]

Are you on MFL? If so, there is an option for the commish to lock himself OUT of this option. And if he changes it, it will send an email out to all owners.

Is the commissioner notified of an accepted trade offer if this lock out feature is chosen on MFL while at the same time the league uses the "commissioner must approve all trades" option?

One has nothing to do with the other.

I assumed that there might be a relationship because currently we do not have the lock out (not my idea but the original league setting) and I'm not notified of trade offers. In fact, about the only reason I log in as commish is to check the review trades section to see if a deal has been done. The real joke is we average about one trade per year so it's a waste of my time mostly. Or is there somewhere else where I'm informed of deals that is unknown to me?

There's a setting that you can turn on in your Team Page -> Contact Info called "New Poll Created (including trade polls and scheduling league events)". That will send you notification of any accepted trade whether you're commish or not. In fact, one of the very rare times we've ever turned OFF commish lockout was so that I could go through and turn this setting ON for every single owner since there was always the same group of 7 or 8 of us voting on any polls in our league. Turning this on for all owners at least guaranteed that they were notified that a poll was posted. (for the record, lockout was immediately turned back on after this change was made).

Not to sound too obtuse here (too late) but, after making that setting change, I, as an owner, will be able to see accepted trades that have not yet been approved by the commissioner, right? I then can log on as commish and approve the trade and log off. TIA for answering this and, especially, TIA for not asking why I don't remove the "commissioner approval" setting.

I believe if you have your league set so that you as commish have to approve a trade, that you will get an email notifying you regardless of any other setting.

 

[coolnerd]

Are you on MFL? If so, there is an option for the commish to lock himself OUT of this option. And if he changes it, it will send an email out to all owners.

Is the commissioner notified of an accepted trade offer if this lock out feature is chosen on MFL while at the same time the league uses the "commissioner must approve all trades" option?

One has nothing to do with the other.

I assumed that there might be a relationship because currently we do not have the lock out (not my idea but the original league setting) and I'm not notified of trade offers. In fact, about the only reason I log in as commish is to check the review trades section to see if a deal has been done. The real joke is we average about one trade per year so it's a waste of my time mostly. Or is there somewhere else where I'm informed of deals that is unknown to me?

There's a setting that you can turn on in your Team Page -> Contact Info called "New Poll Created (including trade polls and scheduling league events)". That will send you notification of any accepted trade whether you're commish or not. In fact, one of the very rare times we've ever turned OFF commish lockout was so that I could go through and turn this setting ON for every single owner since there was always the same group of 7 or 8 of us voting on any polls in our league. Turning this on for all owners at least guaranteed that they were notified that a poll was posted. (for the record, lockout was immediately turned back on after this change was made).

Not to sound too obtuse here (too late) but, after making that setting change, I, as an owner, will be able to see accepted trades that have not yet been approved by the commissioner, right? I then can log on as commish and approve the trade and log off. TIA for answering this and, especially, TIA for not asking why I don't remove the "commissioner approval" setting.

I believe if you have your league set so that you as commish have to approve a trade, that you will get an email notifying you regardless of any other setting.

this is correct and what i meant with my first answer to Fear.

 

[GregR]

I am the Commish for a 16 team contract/salary/idp league. I keep the Commish lockout on as much as possible. It just eliminates any doubt about shady activities by a Commish. However, with our league, we are able to make offers to players on other teams practice squad. The only way to move players from one team to another, is to turn the Commish Lockout off. I wish there was a way to work around this. So, I turn it off, do my business, and turn it back on as soon as possible. I also try to post in the message board, the reason why the Lockout was turned off. Also in our league, we hold Blind Bidding from 8PM Thursday until 8PM Wednesday. So, if I have any adjustments or Roster moves to make, I try to do them on Thursday morning. (When it's not possible to make a bid anyway)I have been in leagues where the Commish was dishonest. I tried to make my league as transparent as possible.

Yes, the Process Waivers part for Blind Bidding is the only thing I'm aware of that can give a commish an advantage even without lockout on. Though I have ours set to automatically process rather than my doing it manually, the option is still there in the list and I imagine would let you see bids before they are done.So I mainly try to deal with it two ways. First is I don't use the commish login during the season unless I need to, which people can see from the timestamp on the owner login report. Though that isn't perfect, obviously, so I also try to get my bids in as soon as I can so if there is ever a question about it, they can see my bid was placed before theirs. That's not a perfect way either, since you need to react to injury news as it becomes available and may need to submit bids later in the bidding window. We should probably ask for a way to lock that out.

 

[KCitons]

Sorry, I left out a key point. Since our league is a contract/salary cap league, I have to log in as Commish to enter the length of Contract. Hence, the reason I try to do it on Thurs AM. (when Bling Bidding is turned off) Otherwise, I DO allow MFL to process the waivers automatically each Wednesday night.

 

[Fear The Turtle]

Are you on MFL? If so, there is an option for the commish to lock himself OUT of this option. And if he changes it, it will send an email out to all owners.

Is the commissioner notified of an accepted trade offer if this lock out feature is chosen on MFL while at the same time the league uses the "commissioner must approve all trades" option?

One has nothing to do with the other.

I assumed that there might be a relationship because currently we do not have the lock out (not my idea but the original league setting) and I'm not notified of trade offers. In fact, about the only reason I log in as commish is to check the review trades section to see if a deal has been done. The real joke is we average about one trade per year so it's a waste of my time mostly. Or is there somewhere else where I'm informed of deals that is unknown to me?

There's a setting that you can turn on in your Team Page -> Contact Info called "New Poll Created (including trade polls and scheduling league events)". That will send you notification of any accepted trade whether you're commish or not. In fact, one of the very rare times we've ever turned OFF commish lockout was so that I could go through and turn this setting ON for every single owner since there was always the same group of 7 or 8 of us voting on any polls in our league. Turning this on for all owners at least guaranteed that they were notified that a poll was posted. (for the record, lockout was immediately turned back on after this change was made).

Not to sound too obtuse here (too late) but, after making that setting change, I, as an owner, will be able to see accepted trades that have not yet been approved by the commissioner, right? I then can log on as commish and approve the trade and log off. TIA for answering this and, especially, TIA for not asking why I don't remove the "commissioner approval" setting.

I believe if you have your league set so that you as commish have to approve a trade, that you will get an email notifying you regardless of any other setting.

this is correct and what i meant with my first answer to Fear.

First, thanks to Greg and cool. I must not have it set properly because I have never received such a notifying email. The only notifying emails I get are from owners involved in a trade asking me when a trade is going to go through. I'm going to try the "Trade Proposals/Results" setting that Greg mentioned. I'm guessing that is my solution.

 

[Ray_T]

Yes. It is an advantage. RTSports use to not have an option and the Commish could see all offers. I tried really hard to not see them when I went in to approve a trade but it was really hard not to see them. When I saw them, it automatically impacted my trade offer decisions because even if I tried to not allow it be an 'advantage' that meant not sending offers I otherwise would have sent. I tried to not let it give me an advantage but it sure did impact me. If a Commish who had access wanted to use it then it could be a very useful tool.

of course it's an advantage.I cant count the number of times in either my football or one of my hockey pools where a trade goes through where I think to myself, I would have given him a better offer than that.in his case, he has that info before the trade is accepted and allows him to potentially make that better offer. it is an advantage. There is no question about it.

 

[schooner44]

We're using MFL for the first time. I'll look around for that option, I'm still getting used to it after Yahoo for so many years.

I've been using MFL for years and been a commish for most of them. The Commish will have a separate login for his team and for the commissioner. Once the draft is done, he has no reason to login as the commish unless he needs to process a trade. I would say any login after the draft should have to be explained. There is also the option to lock himself out as someone else mentioned.

 

[KiddLattimer]

Are you on MFL? If so, there is an option for the commish to lock himself OUT of this option. And if he changes it, it will send an email out to all owners.

Good stuff, thanks.

It might be worse than you are aware of. Commissioners can also see all blind bid waivers each week before waivers are processed unless he locks himself out of that too.

I believe it only shows who is bidding, but not how much they are bidding.Still, it's an advantage because if nobody is bidding you can sneak in for the minimum bid