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Commissioner Question - Mistake On First Pick? (1 Viewer)

What Do You Do?


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I would have to feel out the league. If it would threaten folding the league I would reverse it. If the guy could handle it I am cool with keeping the pick as is. In the video the guy seemed to be a good sport after the initial regret. In this exact video they seem real close and I think keeping it is the right play. That will never be forgotten.
 

This is getting lots of laughs, but real talk - what do you do here if you're the Commissioner?

Guy drafted Brian Robinson Jr when he meant to take Bijan Robinson.

Let's say it's your local home league.

$50 league entry fee.

What do you do?

Also - NSFW language
This happened in my now-defunct 12-team home league, the first FF league I was ever in.

One of my best friends got a little tuned up, drew the 1.01 for the 1st time in his life. He was so excited - he marched straight up to the draft board and confidently picked… the wrong Adrian Peterson.

We made him sweat for a round but corrected it for him.

And yes, we give him grief about it every year without fail in our other drafts together.
 

This is getting lots of laughs, but real talk - what do you do here if you're the Commissioner?

Guy drafted Brian Robinson Jr when he meant to take Bijan Robinson.

Let's say it's your local home league.

$50 league entry fee.

What do you do?

Also - NSFW language
This happened in my now-defunct 12-team home league, the first FF league I was ever in.

One of my best friends got a little tuned up, drew the 1.01 for the 1st time in his life. He was so excited - he marched straight up to the draft board and confidently picked… the wrong Adrian Peterson.

We made him sweat for a round but corrected it for him.

And yes, we give him grief about it every year without fail in our other drafts together.
Pretty confident if that happened in my league, the next year's draft we would have chipped in and presented him with a jersey for the wrong Adrian Peterson.
 

This is getting lots of laughs, but real talk - what do you do here if you're the Commissioner?

Guy drafted Brian Robinson Jr when he meant to take Bijan Robinson.

Let's say it's your local home league.

$50 league entry fee.

What do you do?

Also - NSFW language
This happened in my now-defunct 12-team home league, the first FF league I was ever in.

One of my best friends got a little tuned up, drew the 1.01 for the 1st time in his life. He was so excited - he marched straight up to the draft board and confidently picked… the wrong Adrian Peterson.

We made him sweat for a round but corrected it for him.

And yes, we give him grief about it every year without fail in our other drafts together.
Pretty confident if that happened in my league, the next year's draft we would have chipped in and presented him with a jersey for the wrong Adrian Peterson.
This is the right answer
 
let. him change it

it's a $50 league, not $500
Even if it was a $500 league you let him change it. Mistakes happen. This was an obvious mistake.
agreed, but there are always a few owners who will cry about it.
Who cares? It's obviously a mistake. No reason to not change it right when it happens. Now if he let it go for 5 rounds and then tried to have the commish change it that is a different story. In this case there is no harm no foul.
 
The right answer is that the commissioner (or neutral party) should be doing sticker duty.
Strippers often need day jobs.

At the PDX Hot Sauce Expo one of the companies hired a girl he’d seen dancing the night before.

Genius. I may have to steal that idea next year. Too many of my league members are married to bring that into the draft room of my home league.

As a commish I will never, ever be on sticker duty.
 
As a commish I will never, ever be on sticker duty.
Sticker duty is an obsolete artifact. No need for stickers on a board ever.


ETA: If you want to have a big draft board at the front of the room just use a dry erase board and write the name on it. Better yet do it on a computer and project it to a TV
 
As a commish I will never, ever be on sticker duty.
Sticker duty is an obsolete artifact. No need for stickers on a board ever.


ETA: If you want to have a big draft board at the front of the room just use a dry erase board and write the name on it. Better yet do it on a computer and project it to a TV
We have a draft board and stickers every year. You can peel those stickers off of my cold, dead body.

Also, that would be a crazy good episode of CSI, amirite?
 
As a commish I will never, ever be on sticker duty.
Sticker duty is an obsolete artifact. No need for stickers on a board ever.


ETA: If you want to have a big draft board at the front of the room just use a dry erase board and write the name on it. Better yet do it on a computer and project it to a TV
We have a draft board and stickers every year. You can peel those stickers off of my cold, dead body.

Also, that would be a crazy good episode of CSI, amirite?
We have never used stickers or a board like what you see in that video. Back in the old days when you created your own hand written cheat sheets off the final rosters listed in the USA today we just sat in a big room and yelled out names when it was our turn to draft and the commish recorded on a poster board at his desk. He still has all the poster boards from every draft and we look them over each year after the draft. It's quite interesting looking back to the draft board of the 80's
 
As a commish I will never, ever be on sticker duty.
Sticker duty is an obsolete artifact. No need for stickers on a board ever.


ETA: If you want to have a big draft board at the front of the room just use a dry erase board and write the name on it. Better yet do it on a computer and project it to a TV
We have a draft board and stickers every year. You can peel those stickers off of my cold, dead body.

Also, that would be a crazy good episode of CSI, amirite?
We have never used stickers or a board like what you see in that video. Back in the old days when you created your own hand written cheat sheets off the final rosters listed in the USA today we just sat in a big room and yelled out names when it was our turn to draft and the commish recorded on a poster board at his desk. He still has all the poster boards from every draft and we look them over each year after the draft. It's quite interesting looking back to the draft board of the 80's
Ooh, now tell us about how the invention of electricity improved your draft— no more oil lamps, or fires to stoke, and indoor plumbing must have been a truly wild innovation!
 
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When I was in high school and we were doing an auction fantasy baseball draft someone nominated Manny Lee for 2 cents and my buddy immediately said 22 cents! He thought it was Mattingly, Don Mattingly. My buddies and I died laughing before letting him take it back.
 
To add, I LOVE the boards with stickers.

Those are super fun.
I cannot imagine drafting live without one. I have every draft board from 2 decades of home league drafting.
Your imagination needs some work then....hahahahaha

(kidding, kidding....but not really...hahahah)
Says the dude who took a horse and carriage to his 1st draft. “Boy howdy these buckboards are comfortable. What will they think of next I wonder?”

Shortly thereafter you doffed your top hat to the room and selected William "Pudge" Heffelfinger, who’s $500 contract was simply astounding for the time.

Off in the distance, a train whistle could be heard. Everyone immediately became excited for their bi-monthly mail call.

#respect
 
Oof, this is a really tough one to me. I'm very rules-oriented. But when it's this obvious, I would definitely want him to be allowed to change it. But if other league members didn't want him to be able to, I would not have a great argument in his favor.

In our league on CBS, you can post a comment to the other owner when you reject a trade. "I don't want to because..." or whatever. So the procedure there would be, type your comment in the comment box, and then click "Reject". But one time I was intending to reject a trade offer where I would be giving up Julio Jones, and I typed a comment explaining why I didn't want to do the trade, and then the way my brain was faultily thinking about it, I clicked "Accept", thinking of it like an "Okay" or "Post" or "Send" button to send my comment. Obviously my fault. But the trade was taken back because my comment obviously indicated that I didn't want to do it. So I have been there and I'm in favor of forgiving obvious mistakes. But I also really like adhering to rules.
 
But the trade was taken back because my comment obviously indicated that I didn't want to do it.
I did this once in CBS as well. My comment was like “not a chance in hell” but on my tiny phone at the airport i fat-fingered it and clicked accept.

The note definitely helped.

In the case of the 1.01, i like to think I play with decent enough people that it would be a total non-issue.
 
let. him change it

it's a $50 league, not $500
Even if it was a $500 league you let him change it. Mistakes happen. This was an obvious mistake.
I guess to me the thing is, if there are forgivable mistakes, and if there are non-forgivable mistakes, then there implicitly must be a line that separates the two, which means there could be tough calls sometimes. But I guess that's what good judgment is for.
 
let. him change it

it's a $50 league, not $500
Bing!
Local league, these are people you want to have a good time with not try and pinch them

-I somehow took the wrong QB recently in one of those 16-team draft and forget it leagues in the Mock Forums
**** happens

I wouldn't make him keep Brian Robinson, not good for the league overall if I'm the Commish making the decision
 

This is getting lots of laughs, but real talk - what do you do here if you're the Commissioner?

Guy drafted Brian Robinson Jr when he meant to take Bijan Robinson.

Let's say it's your local home league.

$50 league entry fee.

What do you do?

Also - NSFW language
No disrespect Joe, but is your next poll "Is the Pope Catholic?" Curious what percentages you anticipated when posting this?
 

This is getting lots of laughs, but real talk - what do you do here if you're the Commissioner?

Guy drafted Brian Robinson Jr when he meant to take Bijan Robinson.

Let's say it's your local home league.

$50 league entry fee.

What do you do?

Also - NSFW language
No disrespect Joe, but is your next poll "Is the Pope Catholic?" Curious what percentages you anticipated when posting this?
There was a time on this board when this poll would be much closer.
 

This is getting lots of laughs, but real talk - what do you do here if you're the Commissioner?

Guy drafted Brian Robinson Jr when he meant to take Bijan Robinson.

Let's say it's your local home league.

$50 league entry fee.

What do you do?

Also - NSFW language
No disrespect Joe, but is your next poll "Is the Pope Catholic?" Curious what percentages you anticipated when posting this?

No disrespect possible there. I’ll always ask questions.

In my leagues we would absolutely let him change the pick and then give him a hard time unmercifully.

The results were about what I thought they would be. Although I would not have been surprised if a few more voted to not allow changing the pick.

I guess maybe we differ, but I don’t think it’s a dumb question. I think it actually opens up some interesting thoughts.

Would people feel the same way if the buy in was $100,000?

For the NFL, it’s my understanding when an official Pick Card is turned in, it’s final.

Now, of course, I am not an NFL GM, and my league buy in is not $100,000 so I personally don’t have to make those decisions.

As I said, in my league, I would absolutely let him change it and then roast him over it for years.

But I think it can be an interesting discussion.
 
The league I was commish on for 20 years had a rule in place to handle this. Pick is made, cannot change it until after the draft. Then, have at it.

The roasting and making fun of is coming regardless. Doofus.
 
If there was a rule in the league that once you pick—your pick stands—-it should stand. If that rule is not in the league’s rules—if I were commish—I would let him change as it was noticed before the next pick was made. Here is how I view it:

Let’s say that a team owner has both Bijan and Brian Robinson on a team—and he sets a lineup where he clearly starts Brian over Bijan on accident. Should a commish let him change that—even though it was crystal clear accidental?
 
People who want to win so badly they'd force a guy to keep the wrong player picked by mistake in a draft are people I'd never want to be in a league with. I'm sure some mistake scenarios exist that would be harder to navigate and correct, but this is an incredibly easy fix and there's absolutely no reason to not swap the player for the right guy. If I saw this go down IRL in one of my leagues, even if it was against someone else and not myself, I'd 100% walk out on the league immediately. Something like this is just a symptom of an underlying problem that I could pretty much guarantee would suck any and all fun out of it for me.
 
People who want to win so badly they'd force a guy to keep the wrong player picked by mistake in a draft are people I'd never want to be in a league with. I'm sure some mistake scenarios exist that would be harder to navigate and correct, but this is an incredibly easy fix and there's absolutely no reason to not swap the player for the right guy. If I saw this go down IRL in one of my leagues, even if it was against someone else and not myself, I'd 100% walk out on the league immediately. Something like this is just a symptom of an underlying problem that I could pretty much guarantee would suck any and all fun out of it for me.
I voted the opposite way, but if it is at the expense of the league I would absolutely reverse it.

My perspective,I suppose, comes from me accepting accountability for my actions and I would expect no one to reverse it if I made that mistake myself. This has been shaped through a few things in life that perhaps isn't reasonable, but that is why I voted that way.
 
Let him change it, but he has to make a donation of food/supplies equal to the $50 league fee to the local humane society.


Oh, and bust him mercilessly about it for eternity.
 
People who want to win so badly they'd force a guy to keep the wrong player picked by mistake in a draft are people I'd never want to be in a league with. I'm sure some mistake scenarios exist that would be harder to navigate and correct, but this is an incredibly easy fix and there's absolutely no reason to not swap the player for the right guy. If I saw this go down IRL in one of my leagues, even if it was against someone else and not myself, I'd 100% walk out on the league immediately. Something like this is just a symptom of an underlying problem that I could pretty much guarantee would suck any and all fun out of it for me.
I voted the opposite way, but if it is at the expense of the league I would absolutely reverse it.

My perspective,I suppose, comes from me accepting accountability for my actions and I would expect no one to reverse it if I made that mistake myself. This has been shaped through a few things in life that perhaps isn't reasonable, but that is why I voted that way.
Appreciate you putting your name on one of the non-majority votes here and giving an explanation; courageous thing to do after a full page of dissenting opinions. I think most of the strength of the stance I took in my post were if it was a 12 man league where the majority were firmly in the "No! The pick is the pick and that's final!" I wouldn't be so quick to up and quit if it was just some general discussion on it; but ultimately I would hope it would land on letting the guy switch his pick to who he actually meant to pick.

I do 100% get what you're saying in the end of your post and honestly often feel similarly. I'm big on personal accountability in particular. And this is probably diverging too much from the original topic; but over the past year or so I've started to realize that just because I hold myself to certain high standards, I really need to curtail how much I put that on others. IME, it's often just led to unproductive frustration. It's not often what we'd consider a "fair" way to go through life; but meeting people where they are currently rather than expecting them all to meet me where I'm at (or even half way) just tends to yield better results. All that being said, it's still a newer thing for me and I still fail at it on the regular lol. Circling back, I can say I'd probably be more likely to live with me picking the wrong person and having a league stick it to me on my mistake, than watching someone else get it stuck to them. Almost like the "you can call me whatever you want, but don't talk like that to my friend" kind of a thing.
 
People who want to win so badly they'd force a guy to keep the wrong player picked by mistake in a draft are people I'd never want to be in a league with. I'm sure some mistake scenarios exist that would be harder to navigate and correct, but this is an incredibly easy fix and there's absolutely no reason to not swap the player for the right guy. If I saw this go down IRL in one of my leagues, even if it was against someone else and not myself, I'd 100% walk out on the league immediately. Something like this is just a symptom of an underlying problem that I could pretty much guarantee would suck any and all fun out of it for me.
I voted the opposite way, but if it is at the expense of the league I would absolutely reverse it.

My perspective,I suppose, comes from me accepting accountability for my actions and I would expect no one to reverse it if I made that mistake myself. This has been shaped through a few things in life that perhaps isn't reasonable, but that is why I voted that way.
Appreciate you putting your name on one of the non-majority votes here and giving an explanation; courageous thing to do after a full page of dissenting opinions. I think most of the strength of the stance I took in my post were if it was a 12 man league where the majority were firmly in the "No! The pick is the pick and that's final!" I wouldn't be so quick to up and quit if it was just some general discussion on it; but ultimately I would hope it would land on letting the guy switch his pick to who he actually meant to pick.

I do 100% get what you're saying in the end of your post and honestly often feel similarly. I'm big on personal accountability in particular. And this is probably diverging too much from the original topic; but over the past year or so I've started to realize that just because I hold myself to certain high standards, I really need to curtail how much I put that on others. IME, it's often just led to unproductive frustration. It's not often what we'd consider a "fair" way to go through life; but meeting people where they are currently rather than expecting them all to meet me where I'm at (or even half way) just tends to yield better results. All that being said, it's still a newer thing for me and I still fail at it on the regular lol. Circling back, I can say I'd probably be more likely to live with me picking the wrong person and having a league stick it to me on my mistake, than watching someone else get it stuck to them. Almost like the "you can call me whatever you want, but don't talk like that to my friend" kind of a thing.
This is a good point. My expectations of others are often times not realistic which leads to personal frustrations.

Bringing it back to to the video posted in this thread. This looked like a group of guys that really knew each other so it really feels like that guy was going to hear about that for awhile (which he should). What happens from there is on them and what they truly think is fair. They were all having a good time and in the spirit of that I could see them letting him try again (next mistake and he faces relegation).
 
People who want to win so badly they'd force a guy to keep the wrong player picked by mistake in a draft are people I'd never want to be in a league with. I'm sure some mistake scenarios exist that would be harder to navigate and correct, but this is an incredibly easy fix and there's absolutely no reason to not swap the player for the right guy. If I saw this go down IRL in one of my leagues, even if it was against someone else and not myself, I'd 100% walk out on the league immediately. Something like this is just a symptom of an underlying problem that I could pretty much guarantee would suck any and all fun out of it for me.
I don’t know if it’s that simple. I think it comes down to what is in the rules/constitution of the league. If the league has a set of rules/constitution—it is the duty of each member to know those rules—and it is the duty of the commissioner to enforce them. If a situation arises that is not addressed in the set of rules—generally speaking—the constitution should have a guideline detailing if the resolution is up to the majority vote of the league—and/or the decision of the commish. If this was not addressed in the league constitution and the final decision was on the commish—if I was commish—I would let him change it—but I would also encourage the league to give him a hard time and bust his balls over it. If the league has a constitution where it says “once you pick—it stands”—I think that a commish overriding the established rule set of the league is a bigger problem. If an owner accidentally forgets to take out a player from a starting lineup that is on a bye week—that owner can then argue “hey—you let this other owner change his pick in the case of a clearly honest mistake”…etc.
 
This is the biggest no brainer question ever. Supposed the same guy instead of drafting Robinson accidentally send a trade offer of Bjian Robinson Instead of Robinson Jr) for Hollywood Brown. Still sticking with you personal accountability stance or does that change when the owner in your division now has Jamar Chase and Bijan?
 

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