Cecil Lammey
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Just got home after a busy day! I am writing the report as we speak and will post it ASAP.
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DAILY Broncos Training Camp Report (1 Viewer)
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From what I heard Bates isn't going to be doing that.
Get to it!!!
Joey Chestnuts
Footballguy
So Andre Hall is the "sleeper" RB you guys are pimping this summer, what a joke. This is the typical cycle, some little unknown rookie is supposed to be a big sleeper in Denver and ends up being nothing more than training camp fodder. Andre Hall will be spent by the end of the first week. The real players pace themselves well and know that it's a long way before Week 1. The sooner you so-called sharks get that the sooner you might know a thing or two about football.
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Enraged Nerfball
Footballguy
You might want to turn down the tool factor a little there Joey. Just a suggestion.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Go back to your Fanball chatroom, guy.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
the only RB's I own from here is Young and Cobbs... In a deep deep dynasty, I was not able to get Hall and Bell was selected last year obviously.
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
Andre Hall is no stranger to Footballguys. here's a Dark Phoenix article I wrote about him in week 11 of the 2005 college football season.
Andre Hall - RB - South Florida Bulls
5'10" 205 lbs. - Senior - 1st ranked junior college RB when entering SFU
Rush / Receiving Stats Att Yards TDs Rec Yards TDs
Versus Syracuse 24 222 3 1 8 0
Hall enjoyed great success in his one and only season of prep football at Dixie Hollins High School. In 2000 he lead Pinellas County with 1,742 yards and 22 touchdowns. He amassed those stats in only 8 ½ games because he missed a full game, and part of another one, with an ankle injury. He finished off his prep career with a 154 yard & 4 touchdown performance in the Palms Pinellas All-Star Game. In addition to football, Hall also participated in wrestling and track.
Andre Hall is an instinctive runner and his skill set should translate very well at the next level. Hall has a great initial burst and can get past the line of scrimmage in the blink of an eye. Andre has learned to become more patient when waiting for his blocks to open up a hole. This patience enables him to be even more dangerous as a cutback runner. Hall is a smart runner that rarely puts the ball on the ground and is always fighting for extra yardage. He runs with good forward lean and is more powerful than his size might indicate. Andre is more quick than fast and has limited moves in the open field, but what he can do is move the chains effectively.
Before attending South Florida, Hall spent 2 years at the junior college level. His first season was a Georgia Military Academy where he rushed for over 1,600 yards. His second season was at Garden City Kansas, where he rushed for over 1,400 yards and was named 1st team All-Jayhawk Conference. Andre Hall has a good chance to make an impact in the NFL. In his first season with South Florida he ranked 9th in the nation in all-purpose yards with an average of 167 per game. In 2005 Hall continues to show his dominance on the field. He already has 3 games with 3 rushing touchdowns and has a total of 14 touchdowns so far this season. He may not be a first day pick, but Andre Hall is one to remember when looking for late-round sleepers in next years draft.
Andre Hall - RB - South Florida Bulls
5'10" 205 lbs. - Senior - 1st ranked junior college RB when entering SFU
Rush / Receiving Stats Att Yards TDs Rec Yards TDs
Versus Syracuse 24 222 3 1 8 0
Hall enjoyed great success in his one and only season of prep football at Dixie Hollins High School. In 2000 he lead Pinellas County with 1,742 yards and 22 touchdowns. He amassed those stats in only 8 ½ games because he missed a full game, and part of another one, with an ankle injury. He finished off his prep career with a 154 yard & 4 touchdown performance in the Palms Pinellas All-Star Game. In addition to football, Hall also participated in wrestling and track.
Andre Hall is an instinctive runner and his skill set should translate very well at the next level. Hall has a great initial burst and can get past the line of scrimmage in the blink of an eye. Andre has learned to become more patient when waiting for his blocks to open up a hole. This patience enables him to be even more dangerous as a cutback runner. Hall is a smart runner that rarely puts the ball on the ground and is always fighting for extra yardage. He runs with good forward lean and is more powerful than his size might indicate. Andre is more quick than fast and has limited moves in the open field, but what he can do is move the chains effectively.
Before attending South Florida, Hall spent 2 years at the junior college level. His first season was a Georgia Military Academy where he rushed for over 1,600 yards. His second season was at Garden City Kansas, where he rushed for over 1,400 yards and was named 1st team All-Jayhawk Conference. Andre Hall has a good chance to make an impact in the NFL. In his first season with South Florida he ranked 9th in the nation in all-purpose yards with an average of 167 per game. In 2005 Hall continues to show his dominance on the field. He already has 3 games with 3 rushing touchdowns and has a total of 14 touchdowns so far this season. He may not be a first day pick, but Andre Hall is one to remember when looking for late-round sleepers in next years draft.
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
I love this time of year, and training camp is a sign that football is just around the corner. The weather was sunny out here in Colorado and the future looks bright for the 2007 Denver Broncos. I was able to go with Big Sean Baca (from Next Level Scouting) and we had a great time watching the Broncos on the first day. I ran into several friends including Chris Prusse, Bill Williamson, Jeff Legwold, Renaud Notaro, Mike Rice, etc. It’s always fun to talk football with these guys. Here’s my day one observations:
The rookies are called up to the front during warmups to do a little dance before the proceedings begin. Marcus Thomas came out doing a running cartwheel and a backflip. It was simply amazing to see a man that size do that! More on Thomas later, as he had a very good first day. Here’s what coach Shanahan had to say about MT’s warmup tradition: “I actually saw it in college once and when he did his workouts for the pro scouts. A lot of his coaches were there. During that time, he started his workouts doing that so I had kind of anticipated it. Most of our players never see that, so they are a little bit surprised. He did a round off and a back flip, not many guys can do that at 325 pounds.”
QB
Jay Cutler looked calm, cool, and collected out there. I liked the zip that he had on his passes, and he has the ultimate confidence in his arm. He was placing the ball in just the right spot for his receivers to snag the football. He also placed the ball so that the defense could not get to it. There was one play, from their own 40 yard line where Cutler did a 5 step drop and slung it down the field to David Kircus who was running a post. When he released the ball I thought to myself “he shouldn’t have thrown that” as it was into coverage with safety help over the top. The pass dropped right into Kircus, and David skied to get the ball above the 2 defenders for six. That touchdown pass (60 yards in the air) had me shaking my head. This kid is amazing, and I love how he looks more comfortable with this offense. The bootleg is back and Cutler had the defense biting on that a couple of times. He looks good running the boot, so watch the Broncos throw that play in when teams least expect it.
Patrick Ramsey did not impress me today. He’s okay, but barely. His passes looked good, but too often he was off the mark or behind his receivers. It didn’t help that he held onto the ball too long either. And when the play broke down he “tried” to scramble, but Vince Young he is not.
Darrell Hackney looks like a mini-Donovan McNabb. Except that he’s not that good of a QB. He’s a scrambler – very athletic, and his arm is an absolute CANNON. His accuracy leaves a lot to be desired, however the buzz around him was pretty good, and the Broncos could keep him as their 3rd QB – or put him on the PS for some seasoning.
Preston Parsons is a good guy, but just a camp arm. No more, no less.
RB
Travis Henry showed why he will be a PERFECT fit in this system. He showed tremendous cutback ability and several times made the key moves that had defenders out of position. DJ Williams even got yelled at twice in a row for being out of position. Henry looked good catching the ball as well, which kind of surprised me. I knew he didn’t have hands of stone, but he was catching the ball very naturally. He had a good quick initial burst and followed through nicely on all of his runs. I did however see him look winded after some plays. Perhaps he’s getting used to the altitude, here’s what Henry had to say after practice: “I feel like I am in the best shape of my career. I’m healthy, and I feel like this team is special. We are here now just getting better and trying to gel together. OTAs have helped me out a lot. It’s just going back over everything. Right now, everything is going really well for me. I just have to get used to my players. Once we put the pads on and I get a feel of what these guys can do, it will all be first hand. Getting used to the individual players and knowing how they block will help me get better.”
Cecil Sapp showed some power and pop, and now that he’s the #2 back he certainly will not give that job up without a fight. I saw a couple of spin moves from Cecil, which is kind of rare as he usually likes to just run over people. There was plenty of that as well, including some shots to the defensive backs that tried to get too close. The word I would use to describe Sapp is fiesty. He was scrappy, and hard nosed out there today. He’s not a flashy runner, but he was effective between the tackles. Showed good hands, only dropping one pass that I saw. Sapp can also fill in as a FB and on special teams.
Mike Bell is wearing the #30 this year (sorry TD). That being said, I had to look down at my roster twice to make sure my eyes weren’t deceiving me. He had a TON of burst today. More than he had all of last year. It was evident to me that he had been working on this during the offseason. Bell had his signature power, but he wasn’t running with his head down like he did last year. His vision seemed improved, although it still seemed to me like he was thinking too much and not just playing. Either way, he is certainly going to put up a good fight for that #2 spot.
Andre Hall is not a stranger to Footballguys (see above post). He looked fantastic out there. He is a completely different type of runner from the other Broncos RBs. He has explosion, quickness, vision, and instincts. The one thing that he does have (and what makes him so different) is the fact that he is really, really shifty. It’s hard to get a bead to tackle this kid. He is elusive in the open field and looked very determined out there. He’ll make the team, (coaches have been raving about him on the PS), and he’ll contribute in some way if he continues to play this way.
Selvin Young was a big disappointment today. He looked lost out there. He often didn’t make the proper cutback, opting to pick up minimal yards – when a clear cutback lane could’ve netted him 5 or more. The thing that really disappointed me the most was his lack of balance. THREE times he would get to the second level of the defense, and have so much forward body lean that he would just fall right over. His balance just wasn’t there. He’ll be hard pressed to make the team. I loved what Bloom and I saw of him at the Shrine Game, but on this stage he was outshined.
WR
Good thing Javon Walker is a superstud. The Broncos have no worries with #84. He was making great catch after great catch all day long. He seemed to have a spark in his step that he didn’t have last year. Javon seems motivated by many factors this season. He is rocking the “fro-hawk” in honor of Darrent Williams. Both Williams and Nashs numbers are on the back of Broncos helmets. Rod Smith did not practice – and is still not running! Here’s what coach Shanahan had to say about Rod: “Rod is here, he is in our meetings. Obviously he is not out there on the field, but I am glad he is taking care of himself. Rod is such a tough guy, he played last year with an injury when he probably shouldn’t have. He is doing what he can to make sure he is out on the field and very healthy. I hope we can have him back for the third preseason game. Rod will come back and play extremely well for us.”
Brandon Stokley could move into the #2 role opposite of Javon Walker. The news on Brandon Marshall varies depending on who you talk to. Some people say he’ll be out just a few days, others say that he could miss over half of training camp – and maybe more. The buzz around Marshall was not good, as many people feel that while talented, Marshall may never put it together to be a consistent WR in the NFL.
David Kircus started out cold. He was dropping many easy passes during drills. However, when he and Cutler hooked up for that TD something just clicked. After that Kircus seemed to be pumped up and was making catches all over the field. He’ll have to show more consistency, but with Marshall’s injury this WR corps is wide open.
Domenik Hixon had a good first day. He is a different receiver from the other guys out there. He seems to have great speed, and is a bigger receiver. He’s not a polished route runner, but his hands are easily above average. I like his run after the catch ability.
David Terrell made some good plays, but is not a favorite among teammates and probably won’t make this team.
Quincy Morgan made some nice catches today. I have always liked this kid (he is a former Steeler after all) but unless he is a special teams stud he won’t make the team.
Brian Clark is just a camp body in my opinion. He is a good athlete, but not a good football player.
TEs
Daniel Graham DID NOT DROP A PASS TODAY. Sure, he’s a fantastic blocker – but this kid can catch anything. He was even catching God-awful passes from Preston Parsons. Cutler was already looking to Graham early and often. When plays would break down, Jay would flick the ball to Graham (the guy knows how to get open). A fantastic day from this guy.
Tony Scheffler didn’t practice, but should be back very soon.
Stephen Alexander made several good catches today. He’s a solid veteran that seems to have shaken the injury bug that hampered his career early on.
DEFENSE
I spend most of my time watching the offense, but I did have a few defensive observations from today:
Sam Adams is big. I mean really big. I may be Big Mex, but Adams could crush me with ease. All reports were positive from the big man today -–and he didn’t seem that winded!
Jarvis Moss looked tentative. He is very slender, and needs to be more instinctive. I’m sure it’s just the first day jitters (even I had butterflies!) and all reports about Moss were positive.
Marcus Thomas is a BEAST. He leveled Greg Elsinger in one on one drills. He didn’t just level him, HE WAS LIKE A ROAD GRADER! Elsinger was on his ### quick. If Thomas fulfills his potential the Broncos have an absolute STEAL.
DJ Williams is a great athlete, but he struggled at times today. He was out of position twice, and was yelled at for it. He needs to show great instinct, and I’d like to see him play with more hard-nosed passion.
Dre Bly likes to showboat. But that’s okay because he was backing it up. He made on catch in drills that was over-and-behind his head. Simply amazing. Champ thinks it should open up things for him more: “Definitely. I have to get more than last year. I can’t really get less. With Dre (Bly) on the other side, we’re going to make plays. Last year, I picked about a third of the balls. Some quarterbacks don’t care. There are a lot of young quarterbacks that think they can do it, so I’m all for it. I’m not going to say anything during the week about them not throwing it over there.”
Nick Ferguson struggled today. He is the one part of the defense that needs to be sound. Lynch, Bailey, Bly will have it locked down – but Ferguson (if he starts) will have to bring his “A” game. On a trips formation where the inside receiver broke at 7, and the middle receiver broke at 12 Ferguson bit on the drag route (inside) which left the flag route (middle) wide open for the score. Big Sean was upset about that play. Here's what the big man had to say about that play, "That ####### sucked!"
Oh yeah, and Elvis Dumervil loves my hat! (see pic)
The rookies are called up to the front during warmups to do a little dance before the proceedings begin. Marcus Thomas came out doing a running cartwheel and a backflip. It was simply amazing to see a man that size do that! More on Thomas later, as he had a very good first day. Here’s what coach Shanahan had to say about MT’s warmup tradition: “I actually saw it in college once and when he did his workouts for the pro scouts. A lot of his coaches were there. During that time, he started his workouts doing that so I had kind of anticipated it. Most of our players never see that, so they are a little bit surprised. He did a round off and a back flip, not many guys can do that at 325 pounds.”
QB
Jay Cutler looked calm, cool, and collected out there. I liked the zip that he had on his passes, and he has the ultimate confidence in his arm. He was placing the ball in just the right spot for his receivers to snag the football. He also placed the ball so that the defense could not get to it. There was one play, from their own 40 yard line where Cutler did a 5 step drop and slung it down the field to David Kircus who was running a post. When he released the ball I thought to myself “he shouldn’t have thrown that” as it was into coverage with safety help over the top. The pass dropped right into Kircus, and David skied to get the ball above the 2 defenders for six. That touchdown pass (60 yards in the air) had me shaking my head. This kid is amazing, and I love how he looks more comfortable with this offense. The bootleg is back and Cutler had the defense biting on that a couple of times. He looks good running the boot, so watch the Broncos throw that play in when teams least expect it.
Patrick Ramsey did not impress me today. He’s okay, but barely. His passes looked good, but too often he was off the mark or behind his receivers. It didn’t help that he held onto the ball too long either. And when the play broke down he “tried” to scramble, but Vince Young he is not.
Darrell Hackney looks like a mini-Donovan McNabb. Except that he’s not that good of a QB. He’s a scrambler – very athletic, and his arm is an absolute CANNON. His accuracy leaves a lot to be desired, however the buzz around him was pretty good, and the Broncos could keep him as their 3rd QB – or put him on the PS for some seasoning.
Preston Parsons is a good guy, but just a camp arm. No more, no less.
RB
Travis Henry showed why he will be a PERFECT fit in this system. He showed tremendous cutback ability and several times made the key moves that had defenders out of position. DJ Williams even got yelled at twice in a row for being out of position. Henry looked good catching the ball as well, which kind of surprised me. I knew he didn’t have hands of stone, but he was catching the ball very naturally. He had a good quick initial burst and followed through nicely on all of his runs. I did however see him look winded after some plays. Perhaps he’s getting used to the altitude, here’s what Henry had to say after practice: “I feel like I am in the best shape of my career. I’m healthy, and I feel like this team is special. We are here now just getting better and trying to gel together. OTAs have helped me out a lot. It’s just going back over everything. Right now, everything is going really well for me. I just have to get used to my players. Once we put the pads on and I get a feel of what these guys can do, it will all be first hand. Getting used to the individual players and knowing how they block will help me get better.”
Cecil Sapp showed some power and pop, and now that he’s the #2 back he certainly will not give that job up without a fight. I saw a couple of spin moves from Cecil, which is kind of rare as he usually likes to just run over people. There was plenty of that as well, including some shots to the defensive backs that tried to get too close. The word I would use to describe Sapp is fiesty. He was scrappy, and hard nosed out there today. He’s not a flashy runner, but he was effective between the tackles. Showed good hands, only dropping one pass that I saw. Sapp can also fill in as a FB and on special teams.
Mike Bell is wearing the #30 this year (sorry TD). That being said, I had to look down at my roster twice to make sure my eyes weren’t deceiving me. He had a TON of burst today. More than he had all of last year. It was evident to me that he had been working on this during the offseason. Bell had his signature power, but he wasn’t running with his head down like he did last year. His vision seemed improved, although it still seemed to me like he was thinking too much and not just playing. Either way, he is certainly going to put up a good fight for that #2 spot.
Andre Hall is not a stranger to Footballguys (see above post). He looked fantastic out there. He is a completely different type of runner from the other Broncos RBs. He has explosion, quickness, vision, and instincts. The one thing that he does have (and what makes him so different) is the fact that he is really, really shifty. It’s hard to get a bead to tackle this kid. He is elusive in the open field and looked very determined out there. He’ll make the team, (coaches have been raving about him on the PS), and he’ll contribute in some way if he continues to play this way.
Selvin Young was a big disappointment today. He looked lost out there. He often didn’t make the proper cutback, opting to pick up minimal yards – when a clear cutback lane could’ve netted him 5 or more. The thing that really disappointed me the most was his lack of balance. THREE times he would get to the second level of the defense, and have so much forward body lean that he would just fall right over. His balance just wasn’t there. He’ll be hard pressed to make the team. I loved what Bloom and I saw of him at the Shrine Game, but on this stage he was outshined.
WR
Good thing Javon Walker is a superstud. The Broncos have no worries with #84. He was making great catch after great catch all day long. He seemed to have a spark in his step that he didn’t have last year. Javon seems motivated by many factors this season. He is rocking the “fro-hawk” in honor of Darrent Williams. Both Williams and Nashs numbers are on the back of Broncos helmets. Rod Smith did not practice – and is still not running! Here’s what coach Shanahan had to say about Rod: “Rod is here, he is in our meetings. Obviously he is not out there on the field, but I am glad he is taking care of himself. Rod is such a tough guy, he played last year with an injury when he probably shouldn’t have. He is doing what he can to make sure he is out on the field and very healthy. I hope we can have him back for the third preseason game. Rod will come back and play extremely well for us.”
Brandon Stokley could move into the #2 role opposite of Javon Walker. The news on Brandon Marshall varies depending on who you talk to. Some people say he’ll be out just a few days, others say that he could miss over half of training camp – and maybe more. The buzz around Marshall was not good, as many people feel that while talented, Marshall may never put it together to be a consistent WR in the NFL.
David Kircus started out cold. He was dropping many easy passes during drills. However, when he and Cutler hooked up for that TD something just clicked. After that Kircus seemed to be pumped up and was making catches all over the field. He’ll have to show more consistency, but with Marshall’s injury this WR corps is wide open.
Domenik Hixon had a good first day. He is a different receiver from the other guys out there. He seems to have great speed, and is a bigger receiver. He’s not a polished route runner, but his hands are easily above average. I like his run after the catch ability.
David Terrell made some good plays, but is not a favorite among teammates and probably won’t make this team.
Quincy Morgan made some nice catches today. I have always liked this kid (he is a former Steeler after all) but unless he is a special teams stud he won’t make the team.
Brian Clark is just a camp body in my opinion. He is a good athlete, but not a good football player.
TEs
Daniel Graham DID NOT DROP A PASS TODAY. Sure, he’s a fantastic blocker – but this kid can catch anything. He was even catching God-awful passes from Preston Parsons. Cutler was already looking to Graham early and often. When plays would break down, Jay would flick the ball to Graham (the guy knows how to get open). A fantastic day from this guy.
Tony Scheffler didn’t practice, but should be back very soon.
Stephen Alexander made several good catches today. He’s a solid veteran that seems to have shaken the injury bug that hampered his career early on.
DEFENSE
I spend most of my time watching the offense, but I did have a few defensive observations from today:
Sam Adams is big. I mean really big. I may be Big Mex, but Adams could crush me with ease. All reports were positive from the big man today -–and he didn’t seem that winded!
Jarvis Moss looked tentative. He is very slender, and needs to be more instinctive. I’m sure it’s just the first day jitters (even I had butterflies!) and all reports about Moss were positive.
Marcus Thomas is a BEAST. He leveled Greg Elsinger in one on one drills. He didn’t just level him, HE WAS LIKE A ROAD GRADER! Elsinger was on his ### quick. If Thomas fulfills his potential the Broncos have an absolute STEAL.
DJ Williams is a great athlete, but he struggled at times today. He was out of position twice, and was yelled at for it. He needs to show great instinct, and I’d like to see him play with more hard-nosed passion.
Dre Bly likes to showboat. But that’s okay because he was backing it up. He made on catch in drills that was over-and-behind his head. Simply amazing. Champ thinks it should open up things for him more: “Definitely. I have to get more than last year. I can’t really get less. With Dre (Bly) on the other side, we’re going to make plays. Last year, I picked about a third of the balls. Some quarterbacks don’t care. There are a lot of young quarterbacks that think they can do it, so I’m all for it. I’m not going to say anything during the week about them not throwing it over there.”
Nick Ferguson struggled today. He is the one part of the defense that needs to be sound. Lynch, Bailey, Bly will have it locked down – but Ferguson (if he starts) will have to bring his “A” game. On a trips formation where the inside receiver broke at 7, and the middle receiver broke at 12 Ferguson bit on the drag route (inside) which left the flag route (middle) wide open for the score. Big Sean was upset about that play. Here's what the big man had to say about that play, "That ####### sucked!"
Oh yeah, and Elvis Dumervil loves my hat! (see pic)
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Thanks, Cecil. This is great info
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
here's some pictures from the first day.
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
more 
Cecil, what is your take on Sapp vs MBell at RB2?
a_troll00
Footballguy
This is what I've been waiting to see. Graham was an absolute receiving monster at CU, maybe he can fulfill his potential with the Broncos. Cutler seems to like getting the ball to the TEs, so we might see big numbers from both Graham and Scheffler this season.
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
Bell surprised me today with his burst. Sapp has an injury history, but is more versatile than MBell. If the competition stays the way it was today, the #2 would be Sapp. And with the rise of Andre Hall, Mike Bell could very well be on the bubble.Jeff Tefertiller said:
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
a_troll00 said:
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
[tommyboy]need sleepy![/tommyboy]Bring on day 2!
Hey before you go quick question(s):
How was SLB looking with Moore out?
Also, were they pulling Lynch or Ferguson in some situations (against pass obvious downs for example)? I've heard some rumors/reports that they might be pulling Lynch for Cox/Hazmallah (whatever his name is).
Also, how did Crowder look?
Sleep? There is no sleep in training camp!!!
How was SLB looking with Moore out?
Also, were they pulling Lynch or Ferguson in some situations (against pass obvious downs for example)? I've heard some rumors/reports that they might be pulling Lynch for Cox/Hazmallah (whatever his name is).
Also, how did Crowder look?
Sleep? There is no sleep in training camp!!!
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
There is no sleep for a FBG! Honestly, even in the offseason I only get about 4 hours a night.Moore being out is a blow initially. Jim Bates knows how to get the most out of his players. Look for Warrick Holdman to have the early lead. Nate Webster was shaken up today - but looks to be okay.I barely noticed Crowder, but reports were decent about him.Hamza Abdullah (his personal trainer is my friend Travelle Gaines) had a great first day. I liked his speed and his nose for the football.Cox had a good first day too. He batted down a couple of Jay Cutler passes. Jay has supreme confidence in that arm, but there's some you just can't squeeze in - no matter how good your arm is.
LOL
Yeah Jay is going to have to learn to restrain some of those throws or else they will be picks.
How did Eslinger look? I heard he was practicing with the first team when Nalen sat out over Myers?
For those that don't know Nalen typically gets the afternoon off being a long time vet so nothing to worry about.
BTW, I share your sentiments about Marshall. I'm beginning to get concerned about that WR depth with Marshall and Rod both being out.
I heard TJ Hollowell really impressed at SLB. Think he has the chance to start at SLB?
Yeah Jay is going to have to learn to restrain some of those throws or else they will be picks.
How did Eslinger look? I heard he was practicing with the first team when Nalen sat out over Myers?
For those that don't know Nalen typically gets the afternoon off being a long time vet so nothing to worry about.
BTW, I share your sentiments about Marshall. I'm beginning to get concerned about that WR depth with Marshall and Rod both being out.
I heard TJ Hollowell really impressed at SLB. Think he has the chance to start at SLB?
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Prodigal19
Footballguy
Thanks cecil!
Do you mind if I post your report over on the broncos boards? I will of course give full credit to you.
The guys over there are desperate for any information
Do you mind if I post your report over on the broncos boards? I will of course give full credit to you.
The guys over there are desperate for any information
Dude, you haven't even been here a month and suddenly you think you know what a "typical cycle" is around these parts? That's good- this means it won't come as any surprise to you when I inform you that we've just moved to the next stage of the cycle- a little stage I like to call "ignore list".Joey Chestnuts said:
I thought that was just his afternoon snack.
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
not a problem brother!Thanks cecil!Do you mind if I post your report over on the broncos boards? I will of course give full credit to you.The guys over there are desperate for any information
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
Nalen was #####ing about EVERYTHING in the morning. Grumpy vets
Holowell was getting good buzz on the sidelines.
Holowell was getting good buzz on the sidelines.
BusMan
Footballguy
The way I read the current nickel DL is Moss, Warren, Ekuban (sliding in from DE), and Dumervil. With both speedsters Moss and Dumervil lined up wide (as Bates' likes), they're going to be tough to handle one on one. Dumervil especially should see just as many sacks if not more given his superior technique.Good take on the DL yesterday from The Orange Mane:
BusMan
Footballguy
I agree that any time we can get Dumervil on the field in a pass-rushing scenario, it would be great. Unfortunately, I happen to think his frame is better suited to line up wide where he can use his pass-rushing skill set in a one-on-one matchup against a tackle or tight end. I'm not sure sure he'd be able to both deal with and get through the trash in the middle of the line quite as easily as Warren and Ekuban.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Great stuff Cecil.
I really can't wait to see Andre Hall play. The Selvin Young news was discouraging, but hopefully he can turn things around and at least land a spot on the practice squad.
I really can't wait to see Andre Hall play. The Selvin Young news was discouraging, but hopefully he can turn things around and at least land a spot on the practice squad.
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
time for day 2!
DenverBuc
Footballguy
I initially read this wrong and thought you meant that Holowell was boozing it up on the sidelines!
BusMan
Footballguy
:laserrocketarm:
SaintArnold
Footballguy
I will never get tired of watching that video!
Awesome thread Cecil, will be my first stop with my morning coffee.
Say it aint so, Cec !Marshall's durability has dogged him for two out of two NFL training camps. I'm definitely starting to get uncomfortable about his ability to stay healthy, although I still feel certain about his talent and ability to eventually be among the best WRs in the NFL.Cecil Lammey said:
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gocats
Footballguy
Damn this is terrible news I own him in so many leagues
Yeah I mentioned this earlier in the Marshall thread that he was a bigger risk then people were thinking.
Enraged Nerfball
Footballguy
My only real criticism of the Bucs draft this year was passing on Marcus Thomas in the 3rd. I think he would have made a perfect under tackle for them as they have never really replaced Sapp. A real steal for Denver if he stays out of trouble, which was the knock on him at Florida.
the knee injury last year really sapped him of the momentum he had built, but he seemed to get the "eye of the tiger" back by the end of year. I wasnt aware of the severity of the latest injury until he aggravated it at the last minicamp. He didnt have major durability issues in college, so I am bit
but also 
kensat30
Footballguy
I'm seriously regretting not picking up J.Walker in my draft now. Lot of good things I'm hearing about Cutler in here and his willingness to thread it. All he has to do is remember to keep throwing it up to 84. Walker's the best deep threat in the NFL right now IMO. Top5 potential.
amphibianbri
Footballguy
Hey Cecil---
I'm hearing about how great Walker and the TE's can catch and that Henry isn't bad. COuld Cutler be looking to put up Elway type #'s (3600 and 25 TD's) this year or will Shanny have him be more of a manager (3200 and 20 TD's) while running Henry crazy.
I'm hearing about how great Walker and the TE's can catch and that Henry isn't bad. COuld Cutler be looking to put up Elway type #'s (3600 and 25 TD's) this year or will Shanny have him be more of a manager (3200 and 20 TD's) while running Henry crazy.
Banger
Footballguy
Last year when Cutler was just getting his feet wet Shanny had Cutler air it out and he looked great doing it. The bomb to Walker was one of the better passes I've seen in long time. Shanny loves that this kid has that kind of ability and will unleash him. I don't know if he gets Elway #'s this year but it will come. The guy is going to be a very good QB in this league for a long time.
thesurfshop19
Footballguy
Great updates, guys. 
BusMan
Footballguy
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
starting on my report right now!
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
The mood was somber today because of the passing of Bill Walsh. Perhaps no one in the history of football has been more influential on the game. Legend is a term that is tossed around too much in the media, but Walsh was truly a legend. His legacy has forever changed football and he will be missed by all.
Here’s what Coach Mike Shanahan had to say about the passing of Bill Walsh: ”Today is a really sad day. He was a great coach and a great teacher. He enjoyed teaching and it didn’t matter what level it was. I don’t care if he was teaching high school kids or quarterbacks three-to-five step drops, college kids, pro kids, he enjoyed it. He was very good at it, very smart. The best way to describe him is passionate about everything, and that’s one of the reasons he was so successful. ”
On the field certain players made a bigger impact than others on day 2. Big Sean Baca (Next Level Scouting) joined me once again, and overall we were very happy with what we saw from the Broncos today.
QB
Jay Cutler was sharp again today. After most every throw, Sean would say “Awesome.” Cutler’s confidence shined through and he really believes he can make almost any throw. His dropbacks looked good, and he got rid of the ball quickly. He was very decisive when making his throws, even if some were ill-advised. I liked the way that he was looking off the cornerbacks and he kept them guessing almost all day. Brandon Stokley made the most plays for Cutler (aside from Javon Walker) and Jay was spreading the ball around. Cutler commented on Stokley after practice: “He’s a wealth of experience. He’s so knowledgeable and has been in some really good systems with some really good quarterbacks so he can help me out a lot. He’s taught me so much through play. I’m getting a feel for how he used to do it, how he likes to do it, what works, what doesn’t work, and he makes plays. That’s one thing he does. He’s always getting open. You like to have a guy like that, that you can be confident in him, be able to throw the ball to him in any situation. It’ll be nice with Javon (Walker) and getting some of those other guys back. We’ll have a lot of weapons.”
Patrick Ramsey looked worse than he did yesterday. It is clear to me that he is gripping with his new team. Too many times he seemed hesitant (again holding onto the ball too long). Even on dump off passes Ramsey would throw it into coverage.
Darrell Hackney was a little confused out there, but he did have nice zip on the ball. His arm is very live and the way Ramsey is playing Hackney may have a shot at the #2.
RB
Travis Henry was simply AMAZING today. He clearly showed why he is a better fit for this offense than Tatum Bell. Even Coach Shanahan commented on the difference between the two: “Travis is a different style running back. He is more power oriented. He runs down hill and he has the ability to break tackles. Travis has the ability to make the big play where Tatum was more of a slasher. He wasn’t really a power runner but could come up with the big play finding the hole. There styles are different, but I think Travis fits our system a little bit better.” Travis showed great vision on his cutbacks and stunning power between the tackles. There were at least 4 different runs where he made the cutback at just the right time and made the backside of the defense look very, very bad. There was even one run where he cut back across most of the field and made it to the corner and up the field. He’s the best RB I’ve seen in Broncos camp since Clinton Portis (I sure do miss Greeley – okay maybe not!)
Cecil Sapp had another solid day. More signature power moves from this guy. He even lowered his shoulder on Champ one time, and that was not well received. I love watching him run the football, and have been a long time fan – and not just because we share the same first name. Shanahan is impressed by his #2 back as well: “Cecil is a guy that can do about everything—play fullback, tailback and special teams. He is a natural athlete that works extremely hard and gives you everything that he’s got. It is kind of nice to see him carry the ball a little bit more. Last year, he averaged over seven yards a carry in a very limited role, but he is going to help us out this year. We bring all these guys in because we don’t have anything etched in stone. Obviously we know who are starters are but even they may fall off the cliff with age or effort. I think we have enough depth where someone like Cecil can come in and push that type of starter.”
Mike Bell was not as good as yesterday. He was a willing inside runner, but did not find the hole or cutback lane very consistently. He dropped a pass in scrimmage that would’ve been six points. Coach Shanahan did not seem pleased by that play whatsoever. It was not the only drop by Mike Bell today.
Andre Hall looked okay today. I wasn’t taken aback by him because I kind of knew what to expect. Solid day.
Selvin Young will probably be among the first of the Bronco cuts. Where is the balance and vision that we saw during the Shrine Game practices in Houston?
WR
Javon Walker was playing like a man among boys out there. Sean commented that he looked like an all-pro on every play. Karl Paymah was dominating some receivers, but he couldn’t drive Walker off of his route. Javon was driving through the physical corner play and making plays. Jay Cutler commented on his receiving corps after practice: “Honestly we’ve got some high-profile guys right now. We’ve got some guys stepping up. (Domenik) Hixon and B.C. (Brian Clark) are stepping up and filling in some roles for us. (Brandon) Stokley is going to do well. Hixon brings a lot of speed. He’s able to get in and out of breaks quickly. Not a lot of people will be able to catch him. He brings some added dimension. He stretches the field for us and can make some big plays. ”
Brandon Stokley can still get open against any type of coverage. He doesn’t give his route away with his shoulders or his hips and before you know it he is stopping and coming back to the ball. He knows how to work the sideline as well. He caught an over the shoulder go route that only a few in the NFL can catch consistently. Stokley is getting a lot of love from his teammates and from coach Shanahan. “We were watching him for last month or so out here running routes. But you still have to work on game situations and one on ones. I really didn’t anticipate him coming back this early, especially as quick as he looks and the moves he has made out there. If he can keep it going than we may have something pretty special.”
Domenik Hixon had an up and down day, but overall it was another solid performance. I love his route running. Amazing to think that he didn’t play receiver full time at Akron. Coach Shanahan explained the reasoning behind bringing in all these receivers: “We brought more guys in this year because any time you have nine or 10 guys practicing, they are usually a pretty good group of players. We have a bunch of players that have the opportunity to make this football team and we have good depth even though we don’t have a lot of experience. However, I am very impressed with the talent out there.”
David Kircus looked good, but not great. Again with the lack of consistency! He made several catches today, but few were clean. Too often he was bobbling the ball while running and didn’t snag the ball out of the air. John Lynch also abused him on one play where Kircus fumbled. But hey, it’s John “Freaking” Lynch so that’s bound to happen.
David Terrell had a few good moments in 1 on 1 drills.
Quincy Morgan has very strong hands, but was getting worked over by the physical corner play today.
TEs
Daniel Graham dropped some passes today. He was a very popular target today, but the drops were very costly. There was one at the goalline where he threw out one hand at it, and accidentally bounced it into the air for an interception. We'll chalk this up to one below average day. I do not expect Graham to have too many of these.
Nate Jackson sighting! He makes plays, but will it be enough?
Now here’s Sean Baca’s notes from the defensive side of the ball.
Tim Crowder – dominant, great leg drive, got lots of love from the coaches as he OWNED the tackles in 1 on 1 drills.
Jarvis Moss – had flashes of brilliance in 1 on 1 drills, using an array of techniques to get after the QB. Meadows and Lepsis had their way with him a time or two.
Elvis Dumervil – Looked great using his leverage and would not be denied.
Warren/Ekuban/Kennedy – looked very powerful inside and created a new line of scrimmage on every play.
Antwan Burton – did not fair well in 1 on 1 work because he didn’t look that powerful.
The D-Line won the battle today, except for a few plays from Meadows/Nalen/Lepsis.
Here’s some Oline notes from Sean:
Nalen: could not be beat regularly.
Lepsis: great footwork
Pears: looked awful, played confused at times, had problems against Crowder, Dumervil, and Moss’ bombardment.
Meadows: shut off the corner rush, and looked good against most techniques.
Now back to most defensive notes:
Dominique Foxworth – made some pads pop and was very aggressive.
Champ Bailey – unreal, two interceptions in goalline work.
Nick Ferguson – must’ve read the camp report yesterday because he looked awesome today. Looked at home playing over the top.
Dre Bly – Brian Clark made some plays on him, but he bounced back in 7 on 7 drills.
Karl Paymah – very physical and really got the receivers blood pumping with all the contact.
John Lynch – very upbeat and ready for contact. Threw Kircus to the ground like a rag doll.
Here’s what Coach Mike Shanahan had to say about the passing of Bill Walsh: ”Today is a really sad day. He was a great coach and a great teacher. He enjoyed teaching and it didn’t matter what level it was. I don’t care if he was teaching high school kids or quarterbacks three-to-five step drops, college kids, pro kids, he enjoyed it. He was very good at it, very smart. The best way to describe him is passionate about everything, and that’s one of the reasons he was so successful. ”
On the field certain players made a bigger impact than others on day 2. Big Sean Baca (Next Level Scouting) joined me once again, and overall we were very happy with what we saw from the Broncos today.
QB
Jay Cutler was sharp again today. After most every throw, Sean would say “Awesome.” Cutler’s confidence shined through and he really believes he can make almost any throw. His dropbacks looked good, and he got rid of the ball quickly. He was very decisive when making his throws, even if some were ill-advised. I liked the way that he was looking off the cornerbacks and he kept them guessing almost all day. Brandon Stokley made the most plays for Cutler (aside from Javon Walker) and Jay was spreading the ball around. Cutler commented on Stokley after practice: “He’s a wealth of experience. He’s so knowledgeable and has been in some really good systems with some really good quarterbacks so he can help me out a lot. He’s taught me so much through play. I’m getting a feel for how he used to do it, how he likes to do it, what works, what doesn’t work, and he makes plays. That’s one thing he does. He’s always getting open. You like to have a guy like that, that you can be confident in him, be able to throw the ball to him in any situation. It’ll be nice with Javon (Walker) and getting some of those other guys back. We’ll have a lot of weapons.”
Patrick Ramsey looked worse than he did yesterday. It is clear to me that he is gripping with his new team. Too many times he seemed hesitant (again holding onto the ball too long). Even on dump off passes Ramsey would throw it into coverage.
Darrell Hackney was a little confused out there, but he did have nice zip on the ball. His arm is very live and the way Ramsey is playing Hackney may have a shot at the #2.
RB
Travis Henry was simply AMAZING today. He clearly showed why he is a better fit for this offense than Tatum Bell. Even Coach Shanahan commented on the difference between the two: “Travis is a different style running back. He is more power oriented. He runs down hill and he has the ability to break tackles. Travis has the ability to make the big play where Tatum was more of a slasher. He wasn’t really a power runner but could come up with the big play finding the hole. There styles are different, but I think Travis fits our system a little bit better.” Travis showed great vision on his cutbacks and stunning power between the tackles. There were at least 4 different runs where he made the cutback at just the right time and made the backside of the defense look very, very bad. There was even one run where he cut back across most of the field and made it to the corner and up the field. He’s the best RB I’ve seen in Broncos camp since Clinton Portis (I sure do miss Greeley – okay maybe not!)
Cecil Sapp had another solid day. More signature power moves from this guy. He even lowered his shoulder on Champ one time, and that was not well received. I love watching him run the football, and have been a long time fan – and not just because we share the same first name. Shanahan is impressed by his #2 back as well: “Cecil is a guy that can do about everything—play fullback, tailback and special teams. He is a natural athlete that works extremely hard and gives you everything that he’s got. It is kind of nice to see him carry the ball a little bit more. Last year, he averaged over seven yards a carry in a very limited role, but he is going to help us out this year. We bring all these guys in because we don’t have anything etched in stone. Obviously we know who are starters are but even they may fall off the cliff with age or effort. I think we have enough depth where someone like Cecil can come in and push that type of starter.”
Mike Bell was not as good as yesterday. He was a willing inside runner, but did not find the hole or cutback lane very consistently. He dropped a pass in scrimmage that would’ve been six points. Coach Shanahan did not seem pleased by that play whatsoever. It was not the only drop by Mike Bell today.
Andre Hall looked okay today. I wasn’t taken aback by him because I kind of knew what to expect. Solid day.
Selvin Young will probably be among the first of the Bronco cuts. Where is the balance and vision that we saw during the Shrine Game practices in Houston?
WR
Javon Walker was playing like a man among boys out there. Sean commented that he looked like an all-pro on every play. Karl Paymah was dominating some receivers, but he couldn’t drive Walker off of his route. Javon was driving through the physical corner play and making plays. Jay Cutler commented on his receiving corps after practice: “Honestly we’ve got some high-profile guys right now. We’ve got some guys stepping up. (Domenik) Hixon and B.C. (Brian Clark) are stepping up and filling in some roles for us. (Brandon) Stokley is going to do well. Hixon brings a lot of speed. He’s able to get in and out of breaks quickly. Not a lot of people will be able to catch him. He brings some added dimension. He stretches the field for us and can make some big plays. ”
Brandon Stokley can still get open against any type of coverage. He doesn’t give his route away with his shoulders or his hips and before you know it he is stopping and coming back to the ball. He knows how to work the sideline as well. He caught an over the shoulder go route that only a few in the NFL can catch consistently. Stokley is getting a lot of love from his teammates and from coach Shanahan. “We were watching him for last month or so out here running routes. But you still have to work on game situations and one on ones. I really didn’t anticipate him coming back this early, especially as quick as he looks and the moves he has made out there. If he can keep it going than we may have something pretty special.”
Domenik Hixon had an up and down day, but overall it was another solid performance. I love his route running. Amazing to think that he didn’t play receiver full time at Akron. Coach Shanahan explained the reasoning behind bringing in all these receivers: “We brought more guys in this year because any time you have nine or 10 guys practicing, they are usually a pretty good group of players. We have a bunch of players that have the opportunity to make this football team and we have good depth even though we don’t have a lot of experience. However, I am very impressed with the talent out there.”
David Kircus looked good, but not great. Again with the lack of consistency! He made several catches today, but few were clean. Too often he was bobbling the ball while running and didn’t snag the ball out of the air. John Lynch also abused him on one play where Kircus fumbled. But hey, it’s John “Freaking” Lynch so that’s bound to happen.
David Terrell had a few good moments in 1 on 1 drills.
Quincy Morgan has very strong hands, but was getting worked over by the physical corner play today.
TEs
Daniel Graham dropped some passes today. He was a very popular target today, but the drops were very costly. There was one at the goalline where he threw out one hand at it, and accidentally bounced it into the air for an interception. We'll chalk this up to one below average day. I do not expect Graham to have too many of these.
Nate Jackson sighting! He makes plays, but will it be enough?
Now here’s Sean Baca’s notes from the defensive side of the ball.
Tim Crowder – dominant, great leg drive, got lots of love from the coaches as he OWNED the tackles in 1 on 1 drills.
Jarvis Moss – had flashes of brilliance in 1 on 1 drills, using an array of techniques to get after the QB. Meadows and Lepsis had their way with him a time or two.
Elvis Dumervil – Looked great using his leverage and would not be denied.
Warren/Ekuban/Kennedy – looked very powerful inside and created a new line of scrimmage on every play.
Antwan Burton – did not fair well in 1 on 1 work because he didn’t look that powerful.
The D-Line won the battle today, except for a few plays from Meadows/Nalen/Lepsis.
Here’s some Oline notes from Sean:
Nalen: could not be beat regularly.
Lepsis: great footwork
Pears: looked awful, played confused at times, had problems against Crowder, Dumervil, and Moss’ bombardment.
Meadows: shut off the corner rush, and looked good against most techniques.
Now back to most defensive notes:
Dominique Foxworth – made some pads pop and was very aggressive.
Champ Bailey – unreal, two interceptions in goalline work.
Nick Ferguson – must’ve read the camp report yesterday because he looked awesome today. Looked at home playing over the top.
Dre Bly – Brian Clark made some plays on him, but he bounced back in 7 on 7 drills.
Karl Paymah – very physical and really got the receivers blood pumping with all the contact.
John Lynch – very upbeat and ready for contact. Threw Kircus to the ground like a rag doll.
