Desert Island Song Draft - Alphabet thievery afoot - Thievery abounds, XTC and Queen popular. Starting Round 25. Chaos coming (1 Viewer)

[Ilov80s]

5.xx Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure

Did Queen really not get taken yet?

Queen and David Bowie is not the same thing as Queen.

Oh then, that opens this wide open if we can reuse the same artist for collabs with other artists. Didn’t realize we could double dip like that.

Does it still count as Q?

 

[krista4]

5.xx Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure

Did Queen really not get taken yet?

Queen and David Bowie is not the sane thing as Queen.

do that qualify as ...

B for Bowie?
A for the Ampersand?
C for Collaboration?

I’m taking it in Q. I like “A for ampersand,” though!

 

[Hov34]

5.YY Thom Yorke - Impossible Knots

 

[Ilov80s]

5.xx Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure

Did Queen really not get taken yet?

Queen and David Bowie is not the sane thing as Queen.

do that qualify as ...

B for Bowie?
A for the Ampersand?
C for Collaboration?

I’m taking it in Q. I like “A for ampersand,” though!

Yeah I double checked the first page, says specifically using this exact Queen example that it’s ok. Makes hip hop very easy since so many songs are collabs between various artists.

 

[Ilov80s]

5.pik Elvis Costello and the Attractions- Clubland
This is an E if I am understanding this right.

I am clearly the one confused. I thought artist last names were used, not first. But if it’s Joe Bryant then it’s a B but if it’s Joe Bryant and The Football Guys it becomes a J?

 

[zamboni]

5.pik Elvis Costello and the Attractions- Clubland
This is an E if I am understanding this right.

I am clearly the one confused. I thought artist last names were used, not first. But if it’s Joe Bryant then it’s a B but if it’s Joe Bryant and The Football Guys it becomes a J?

I think if it was Elvis solo, it would be C. With the Attractions, that makes it a band name and thus E.

Not totally sure though...

 

[landrys hat]

5.R - Nathaniel Rateliff & the Night Sweats - I Need Never Get Old

Nathaniel Rateliff & The Night Sweats - I Need Never Get Old (Music Video)

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[landrys hat]

5.pik Elvis Costello and the Attractions- Clubland
This is an E if I am understanding this right.

That's a C

 

[Hov34]

If Zac Brown Band was a B, then Elvis Costello and the Attractions is a C.

 

[landrys hat]

Round 4: Gregory Alan Isakov- The Stable Song

I just got tix for his show at the distillery down the road from me. Ticketmaster $25 sale w/no fees (sorry Krista4 not eligible).

 

[zamboni]

If Zac Brown Band was a B, then Elvis Costello and the Attractions is a C.

He had said when it was a band name it was different. Hopefully he shows up and clarify. I don't want it unless it's E.

I think only Sesame Street could clarify this whole letter issue.

 

[landrys hat]

If Zac Brown Band was a B, then Elvis Costello and the Attractions is a C.

He had said when it was a band name it was different. Hopefully he shows up and clarify. I don't want it unless it's E.

Trust me, it's a C.

 

[zamboni]

If Zac Brown Band was a B, then Elvis Costello and the Attractions is a C.

He had said when it was a band name it was different. Hopefully he shows up and clarify. I don't want it unless it's E.

Trust me, it's a C.

C is for Costello, that's good enough for me.

 

[Ilov80s]

If Zac Brown Band was a B, then Elvis Costello and the Attractions is a C.

He had said when it was a band name it was different. Hopefully he shows up and clarify. I don't want it unless it's E.

Trust me, it's a C.

Sure seems like a C. Also Elvis Costello solo is still available.

 

[krista4]

If Zac Brown Band was a B, then Elvis Costello and the Attractions is a C.

He had said when it was a band name it was different. Hopefully he shows up and clarify. I don't want it unless it's E.

It’s definitely a “C.” This first came up with Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, which he put in I. Then the Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers example was also given (a P).

 

[Yo Mama]

Yeah we had the same conversation with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Last name is used.

 

[krista4]

He said band names were different if the name involved is NOT the name of a member of the band. I’ll try to find the example he gave.

 

[krista4]

@Hov34 and @tuffnutt can both pick
Once either pick, Northern Voice is up

On the Jason Isbell thing, he is an I.
Others that are names, but not of anyone in the band are

Marshall Tucker Band is an M
Jethro Tull is a J
Paul Revere and the Raiders is a P
Rilo Kiley is an R
Sigur Ros is an S
Luscious Jackson is an L
Veruca Salt is a V
Monty Python is a P

Alice Cooper is a trickier one.

Here you go. For example, Marshall Tucker Band is M because that’s not the name of a person in the band, or Paul Revere and the Raiders is P for the same reason. Those are the only types of exceptions.

 

[zamboni]

@Hov34 and @tuffnutt can both pick
Once either pick, Northern Voice is up

On the Jason Isbell thing, he is an I.
Others that are names, but not of anyone in the band are

Marshall Tucker Band is an M
Jethro Tull is a J
Paul Revere and the Raiders is a P
Rilo Kiley is an R
Sigur Ros is an S
Luscious Jackson is an L
Veruca Salt is a V
Monty Python is a P

Alice Cooper is a trickier one.

Here you go. For example, Marshall Tucker Band is M because that’s not the name of a person in the band, or Paul Revere and the Raiders is P for the same reason. Those are the only types of exceptions.

There was a Paul Revere in the band, although I can see the overall point.

Another one is a band named after their gym teacher (apologies for the spotlight).

 

[krista4]

@Hov34 and @tuffnutt can both pick
Once either pick, Northern Voice is up

On the Jason Isbell thing, he is an I.
Others that are names, but not of anyone in the band are

Marshall Tucker Band is an M
Jethro Tull is a J
Paul Revere and the Raiders is a P
Rilo Kiley is an R
Sigur Ros is an S
Luscious Jackson is an L
Veruca Salt is a V
Monty Python is a P

Alice Cooper is a trickier one.

Here you go. For example, Marshall Tucker Band is M because that’s not the name of a person in the band, or Paul Revere and the Raiders is P for the same reason. Those are the only types of exceptions.

There was a Paul Revere in the band, although I can see the overall point.

Another one is a band named after their gym teacher (apologies for the spotlight).

Ha! I guess he didn’t know that (nor did I)! But yes, you see the point he made.

 

[PIK95]

5.pik Vampire Weekend - A-Punk

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

@Hov34 and @tuffnutt can both pick
Once either pick, Northern Voice is up

On the Jason Isbell thing, he is an I.
Others that are names, but not of anyone in the band are

Marshall Tucker Band is an M
Jethro Tull is a J
Paul Revere and the Raiders is a P
Rilo Kiley is an R
Sigur Ros is an S
Luscious Jackson is an L
Veruca Salt is a V
Monty Python is a P

Alice Cooper is a trickier one.

Here you go. For example, Marshall Tucker Band is M because that’s not the name of a person in the band, or Paul Revere and the Raiders is P for the same reason. Those are the only types of exceptions.

There was a Paul Revere in the band, although I can see the overall point.

Another one is a band named after their gym teacher (apologies for the spotlight).

I didnt know there was a Paul Revere in the band. Thought it was named after the historical figure.
Historical figure P
Name of someone in the band is R

Elvis Costello is a C..as is Elvis Costello and the Attractions
The Imposter is an I
The McManus Gang is an M
The Coward Gang is a C
Elvis Costello and the Imposters is a C
Elvis Costello and the Roots is a C
The Costello Show is a C
Richard Harvey and Elvis Costello can be a H, but make your arguments for C
Elvis Costello and the Brodsky Quartet is a C, although Bring your arguments for a B
Elvis Costello and Burt Bacharach should be a C but bring your arguments for B
Annie Sofie Van Otter and Elvis Costello is trickier in that it could be V/O. Van something depends on emphasis. Van Morrison is M. In this case i think O as the Von is soft and as the first named artist O is probably the call. C…..make your argument
Elvis Costello and Alain Toussaint should be C, but make your arguments for T

In conclusion im starting to think like Trip It Up and wish the man never recorded a ****ing album, let along 93 with different collaborations

The Alice Cooper is trickier cause the band was Alice Cooper and Vincent Furnier than adopted the moniker. I think.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

@Hov34 and @tuffnutt can both pick
Once either pick, Northern Voice is up

On the Jason Isbell thing, he is an I.
Others that are names, but not of anyone in the band are

Marshall Tucker Band is an M
Jethro Tull is a J
Paul Revere and the Raiders is a P
Rilo Kiley is an R
Sigur Ros is an S
Luscious Jackson is an L
Veruca Salt is a V
Monty Python is a P

Alice Cooper is a trickier one.

Here you go. For example, Marshall Tucker Band is M because that’s not the name of a person in the band, or Paul Revere and the Raiders is P for the same reason. Those are the only types of exceptions.

There was a Paul Revere in the band, although I can see the overall point.

Another one is a band named after their gym teacher (apologies for the spotlight).

I dont know this one off the top of my head, but if the gym teacher is not in the band, first letter of first name, although I would need to see the artists name to confirm

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

5.xx Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure

Did Queen really not get taken yet?

Queen and David Bowie is not the sane thing as Queen.

do that qualify as ...

B for Bowie?
A for the Ampersand?
C for Collaboration?

I’m taking it in Q. I like “A for ampersand,” though!

Yeah I double checked the first page, says specifically using this exact Queen example that it’s ok. Makes hip hop very easy since so many songs are collabs between various artists.

Queen and David Bowie is a different artist to Queen
Now collaborations can get tricky. No **** sherlock.
Where its “featuring” or “with” it tends to be the first named artist.

Where it gets tricky is if you wanted to put this one under B. It should always be first named artist though

I have editted my Costello post. Im getting confused myself

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

I think in conclusion, i will just rule on each individual pick rather than trying to presume all the iterrations of each artist.
I will make a ruling, someone can make an argument, but my final decision after listening to that argument, will be just that. I am open to a compelling case though.

We have established reasonable precedent so far.

 

[krista4]

:soundofbinkysheadexploding:

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

:soundofbinkysheadexploding:

My head already exploded. Whoda thought it would get so complicated

 

[New Binky the Doormat]

:soundofbinkysheadexploding:

me ...just now ...

 

[New Binky the Doormat]

Rd 5: "X" - X-Japan - Rusty Nail

found these guys in my search efforts for bands/artists starting with the letter "X" ...

apparently they formed as a speed metal band and morphed into the Japanese version of the favorite metal bands of the US/Europe. they have a little too many beloved "power ballads" (yuk) but when they hammer it - they are pretty damn good.

 

[tuffnutt]

I have a question for clarity... lets say an artist was in a band ( not one with his name in it) and then goes solo. He still plays the songs he wrote while in that band, but now as a solo artist. Can I use those songs under the artist name or do they have to stay with band? hope that makes sense.

 

[zamboni]

@Hov34 and @tuffnutt can both pick
Once either pick, Northern Voice is up

On the Jason Isbell thing, he is an I.
Others that are names, but not of anyone in the band are

Marshall Tucker Band is an M
Jethro Tull is a J
Paul Revere and the Raiders is a P
Rilo Kiley is an R
Sigur Ros is an S
Luscious Jackson is an L
Veruca Salt is a V
Monty Python is a P

Alice Cooper is a trickier one.

Here you go. For example, Marshall Tucker Band is M because that’s not the name of a person in the band, or Paul Revere and the Raiders is P for the same reason. Those are the only types of exceptions.

There was a Paul Revere in the band, although I can see the overall point.

Another one is a band named after their gym teacher (apologies for the spotlight).

I dont know this one off the top of my head, but if the gym teacher is not in the band, first letter of first name, although I would need to see the artists name to confirm

Spoiler

Lynyrd Skynyrd

 

[zamboni]

@Hov34 and @tuffnutt can both pick
Once either pick, Northern Voice is up

On the Jason Isbell thing, he is an I.
Others that are names, but not of anyone in the band are

Marshall Tucker Band is an M
Jethro Tull is a J
Paul Revere and the Raiders is a P
Rilo Kiley is an R
Sigur Ros is an S
Luscious Jackson is an L
Veruca Salt is a V
Monty Python is a P

Alice Cooper is a trickier one.

Here you go. For example, Marshall Tucker Band is M because that’s not the name of a person in the band, or Paul Revere and the Raiders is P for the same reason. Those are the only types of exceptions.

There was a Paul Revere in the band, although I can see the overall point.

Another one is a band named after their gym teacher (apologies for the spotlight).

I didnt know there was a Paul Revere in the band. Thought it was named after the historical figure.
Historical figure P
Name of someone in the band is R

Paul Revere the band member was named after the historical figure, but shortened it for good reason considering his surname.

Not sure if anyone will get their kicks out of picking them, but obviously up to you how to rule them alphabetically.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

:soundofbinkysheadexploding:

My head already exploded. Whoda thought it would get so complicated

You should complain to the guy who started the thread.

 

[krista4]

@Hov34 and @tuffnutt can both pick
Once either pick, Northern Voice is up

On the Jason Isbell thing, he is an I.
Others that are names, but not of anyone in the band are

Marshall Tucker Band is an M
Jethro Tull is a J
Paul Revere and the Raiders is a P
Rilo Kiley is an R
Sigur Ros is an S
Luscious Jackson is an L
Veruca Salt is a V
Monty Python is a P

Alice Cooper is a trickier one.

Here you go. For example, Marshall Tucker Band is M because that’s not the name of a person in the band, or Paul Revere and the Raiders is P for the same reason. Those are the only types of exceptions.

There was a Paul Revere in the band, although I can see the overall point.

Another one is a band named after their gym teacher (apologies for the spotlight).

I dont know this one off the top of my head, but if the gym teacher is not in the band, first letter of first name, although I would need to see the artists name to confirm

Spoiler

Lynyrd Skynyrd

Seems like that is in category of Marshall Tucker Band, which was named after a real person but not a band member, so they fall under the first letter of the first name.

 

[New Binky the Doormat]

anyone else like the "serpentine" route better?

seems like it generates more interaction and attention to the thread ...

just me?

 

[PIK95]

anyone else like the "serpentine" route better?

seems like it generates more interaction and attention to the thread ...

just me?

Big time. We have no direction today...kinda boring.

 

[krista4]

anyone else like the "serpentine" route better?

seems like it generates more interaction and attention to the thread ...

just me?

Big time. We have no direction today...kinda boring.

+1 People were keeping the serpent moving along really well, unlike some drafts.

ETA: Also the two or three up at a time in some cases helped as well.

 

[Yo Mama]

I have a question for clarity... lets say an artist was in a band ( not one with his name in it) and then goes solo. He still plays the songs he wrote while in that band, but now as a solo artist. Can I use those songs under the artist name or do they have to stay with band? hope that makes sense.

My vote would be that should be a song from the band. Roger Waters performing a song from The Wall is still a PF song IMO.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

I have a question for clarity... lets say an artist was in a band ( not one with his name in it) and then goes solo. He still plays the songs he wrote while in that band, but now as a solo artist. Can I use those songs under the artist name or do they have to stay with band? hope that makes sense.

Send me a PM with the specifics.
Lets just say Hey Jude by the Beatles, but Paul McCartney has a recorded version of Hey Jude for whatever reason.
As long as there is a recorded version solo, good enough, but seek clarity with me first

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

@Hov34 and @tuffnutt can both pick
Once either pick, Northern Voice is up

On the Jason Isbell thing, he is an I.
Others that are names, but not of anyone in the band are

Marshall Tucker Band is an M
Jethro Tull is a J
Paul Revere and the Raiders is a P
Rilo Kiley is an R
Sigur Ros is an S
Luscious Jackson is an L
Veruca Salt is a V
Monty Python is a P

Alice Cooper is a trickier one.

Here you go. For example, Marshall Tucker Band is M because that’s not the name of a person in the band, or Paul Revere and the Raiders is P for the same reason. Those are the only types of exceptions.

There was a Paul Revere in the band, although I can see the overall point.

Another one is a band named after their gym teacher (apologies for the spotlight).

I didnt know there was a Paul Revere in the band. Thought it was named after the historical figure.
Historical figure P
Name of someone in the band is R

Paul Revere the band member was named after the historical figure, but shortened it for good reason considering his surname.

Not sure if anyone will get their kicks out of picking them, but obviously up to you how to rule them alphabetically.

Yeah might wait for someone to pick them and justify their slotting before i break out the abacus

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

:soundofbinkysheadexploding:

My head already exploded. Whoda thought it would get so complicated

You should complain to the guy who started the thread.

No talking to that guy. Hes an arsehole

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

I have a question for clarity... lets say an artist was in a band ( not one with his name in it) and then goes solo. He still plays the songs he wrote while in that band, but now as a solo artist. Can I use those songs under the artist name or do they have to stay with band? hope that makes sense.

My vote would be that should be a song from the band. Roger Waters performing a song from The Wall is still a PF song IMO.

Not if he has a recorded and released version under the name Roger Waters. Thats the one you are taking to your island though, not the Pink Floyd version. Its essentially a cover version.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

anyone else like the "serpentine" route better?

seems like it generates more interaction and attention to the thread ...

just me?

Big time. We have no direction today...kinda boring.

+1 People were keeping the serpent moving along really well, unlike some drafts.

ETA: Also the two or three up at a time in some cases helped as well.

Once i see the lay of the land and who owes picks, we can always change. Im nothing jf not a populist.
4 up at a time is a dogs breakfast though, maybe 3.
Lets try one full day of Mountain time picking when the clock strikes midnight tonight and adapt from there

 

[PIK95]

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[zamboni]

s

Sensing a Buddy Holly selection tomorrow.

 

[otb_lifer]

 

[Ilov80s]

anyone else like the "serpentine" route better?

seems like it generates more interaction and attention to the thread ...

just me?

Big time. We have no direction today...kinda boring.

+1 People were keeping the serpent moving along really well, unlike some drafts.

ETA: Also the two or three up at a time in some cases helped as well.

Once i see the lay of the land and who owes picks, we can always change. Im nothing jf not a populist.
4 up at a time is a dogs breakfast though, maybe 3.
Lets try one full day of Mountain time picking when the clock strikes midnight tonight and adapt from there

You are doing a good job, these drafts are like wrangling cats and this one is especially complex.

 

[Eephus]

Rd 5: "X" - X-Japan - Rusty Nail

found these guys in my search efforts for bands/artists starting with the letter "X" ...

apparently they formed as a speed metal band and morphed into the Japanese version of the favorite metal bands of the US/Europe. they have a little too many beloved "power ballads" (yuk) but when they hammer it - they are pretty damn good.

There's a documentary about them

They have very impressive hair

 

[Ilov80s]

Sensing a Jonathon Davis nu-metal selection tomorrow.

 

[otb_lifer]

Sensing a Jonathon Davis nu-metal selection tomorrow.

send the medics if that happens

s

Sensing a Buddy Holly selection tomorrow.

right, but wouldn't that be "W" for Weezer?