Do "dawn" and "don" rhyme? (1 Viewer)

[rockaction]

Depends on where you live.

Right. If you live in Moronville you would say "no".

Think I've posted this before, but this test will tell you if you are from Moronville then.And no, they don't exactly rhyme. "Don" has a more clipped vowel pronunciation. Do you think that dawn rhymes with bon as in bon bon?

Wow. That's way off. I'm apparently from Wisconsin and use the word "pop" in a sentence when I mean I want a soda or a coke.

 

[nirad3]

I so do not get this.

 

[mr roboto]

My results - spot on.

You may think you speak "Standard English straight out of the dictionary" but when you step away from the Great Lakes you get asked annoying questions like "Are you from Wisconsin?" or "Are you from Chicago?" Chances are you call carbonated drinks "pop."

 

[mr roboto]

I so do not get this.

The way I describe it is the difference between saying ahhhhhh at the dentist (Don) and awwwwww like when you see a cute baby or puppy (Dawn). Don is said with a wider mouth. Dawn is said with a mouth where the lips come closer together.

 

[nirad3]

I so do not get this.

The way I describe it is the difference between saying ahhhhhh at the dentist (Don) and awwwwww like when you see a cute baby or puppy (Dawn).Don is said with a wider mouth. Dawn is said with a mouth where the lips come closer together.

That's a good explanation, and I would expect the "Don ... said with a wider mouth" thing to be a midwest pronunciation.

Me and my lack of an accent say the names the exact same way.

 

[bostonfred]

There is no functional value to pronouncing them differently when there's not even a consensus on how they should be pronounced when you do. Oh, he said dahhhn? He must mean Don, unless he's from this part of the country, then he might mean dawn. Oh wait, he said dawwwn? That probably means dawn, but it might not. Or maybe he doesn't even pronounce them differently, but when he's asking a question he says it more like dawwwn but if he's stressing it at the start of the sentence he says it more like dahhhn.

No matter who you are, unless you're locked in your hometown with other people who share your exact hillbilly accent, or annoying English speakers with your jersey shore new York accent, you're going to have to use context to discriminate. And it works just fine.

those of you arguing for these things to be pronounced differently are just demanding that the rest of the world mispronounced things the specific way you prefer because you're incapable of figuring things out on your own. It's a failure of the education system I guess.

 

[mr roboto]

Or, you know, they actually call for different inflections because they're actually different vowels?

 

[mr roboto]

Map. Dawn=don has Bahston and LA. Dawn and don different has NY, Chicago and SF.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-02QBAQo0Qsc/Tbc4g6dVC1I/AAAAAAAAAWQ/_Ab0i9wlgdk/s1600/don-dawn2.jpg

 

[bostonfred]

Or, you know, they actually call for different inflections because they're actually different vowels?

sure, but you cant even agree with the other deniers on how those different vowels should be inflected. you're all just clinging to your own regional accents. the only logical answer is to pronounce them the same and use context, the way us educated people do.

 

[bostonfred]

Explain to me where the hillbillys are on this map... you've got upper New England, the mountains of West Virginia, Montana and Nevada on your side. Congrats.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-02QBAQo0Qsc/Tbc4g6dVC1I/AAAAAAAAAWQ/_Ab0i9wlgdk/s1600/don-dawn2.jpg

the south.And then there's new York and new Jersey.

 

[mr roboto]

Or, you know, they actually call for different inflections because they're actually different vowels?

sure, but you cant even agree with the other deniers on how those different vowels should be inflected. you're all just clinging to your own regional accents. the only logical answer is to pronounce them the same and use context, the way us educated people do.

Yes. Bostonians sound super educated. 'Let's pronounce words the same and let context decide. That's more reasonable!'Bostonians can't even pronounce 'r'. You just glide right over all sorts of letters don't ya?

 

[mr roboto]

Explain to me where the hillbillys are on this map... you've got upper New England, the mountains of West Virginia, Montana and Nevada on your side. Congrats.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-02QBAQo0Qsc/Tbc4g6dVC1I/AAAAAAAAAWQ/_Ab0i9wlgdk/s1600/don-dawn2.jpg

the south.And then there's new York and new Jersey.

Yeah after posting I edited realizing that the south kinda invalidated my claim. Still, keep LA. They're all idiots anyway.

 

[bostonfred]

Or, you know, they actually call for different inflections because they're actually different vowels?

sure, but you cant even agree with the other deniers on how those different vowels should be inflected. you're all just clinging to your own regional accents. the only logical answer is to pronounce them the same and use context, the way us educated people do.

Yes. Bostonians sound super educated. 'Let's pronounce words the same and let context decide. That's more reasonable!'Bostonians can't even pronounce 'r'. You just glide right over all sorts of letters don't ya?

I don't. I can't stand the Boston accent. but this is home to Harvard, MIT, Boston College and more, so it's reasonable to think Bostonians are, to use your quaint choice of phrase, "super-educated".

 

[mr roboto]

Or, you know, they actually call for different inflections because they're actually different vowels?

sure, but you cant even agree with the other deniers on how those different vowels should be inflected. you're all just clinging to your own regional accents. the only logical answer is to pronounce them the same and use context, the way us educated people do.

Yes. Bostonians sound super educated. 'Let's pronounce words the same and let context decide. That's more reasonable!'Bostonians can't even pronounce 'r'. You just glide right over all sorts of letters don't ya?

I don't. I can't stand the Boston accent. but this is home to Harvard, MIT, Boston College and more, so it's reasonable to think Bostonians are, to use your quaint choice of phrase, "super-educated".

I love how you equate MIT et al with 'Bostonians'. 95% of those schools' students and faculty aren't from Boston. The Boston accent is what obliterates the nuances of the spoken word.Here's a map of 'General American' or the least accented American dialect. Compare with previous map. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_General_American.svg

 

[shuke]

There is no functional value to pronouncing them differently when there's not even a consensus on how they should be pronounced when you do. Oh, he said dahhhn? He must mean Don, unless he's from this part of the country, then he might mean dawn. Oh wait, he said dawwwn? That probably means dawn, but it might not. Or maybe he doesn't even pronounce them differently, but when he's asking a question he says it more like dawwwn but if he's stressing it at the start of the sentence he says it more like dahhhn.

No matter who you are, unless you're locked in your hometown with other people who share your exact hillbilly accent, or annoying English speakers with your jersey shore new York accent, you're going to have to use context to discriminate. And it works just fine.

those of you arguing for these things to be pronounced differently are just demanding that the rest of the world mispronounced things the specific way you prefer because you're incapable of figuring things out on your own. It's a failure of the education system I guess.

No matter how many words you use to try to come off as superior, you're still wrong.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

There is no functional value to pronouncing them differently when there's not even a consensus on how they should be pronounced when you do. Oh, he said dahhhn? He must mean Don, unless he's from this part of the country, then he might mean dawn. Oh wait, he said dawwwn? That probably means dawn, but it might not. Or maybe he doesn't even pronounce them differently, but when he's asking a question he says it more like dawwwn but if he's stressing it at the start of the sentence he says it more like dahhhn.

No matter who you are, unless you're locked in your hometown with other people who share your exact hillbilly accent, or annoying English speakers with your jersey shore new York accent, you're going to have to use context to discriminate. And it works just fine.

those of you arguing for these things to be pronounced differently are just demanding that the rest of the world mispronounced things the specific way you prefer because you're incapable of figuring things out on your own. It's a failure of the education system I guess.

No matter how many words you use to try to come off as superior, you're still wrong.

:yon:

 

[shuke]

There is no functional value to pronouncing them differently when there's not even a consensus on how they should be pronounced when you do. Oh, he said dahhhn? He must mean Don, unless he's from this part of the country, then he might mean dawn. Oh wait, he said dawwwn? That probably means dawn, but it might not. Or maybe he doesn't even pronounce them differently, but when he's asking a question he says it more like dawwwn but if he's stressing it at the start of the sentence he says it more like dahhhn.

No matter who you are, unless you're locked in your hometown with other people who share your exact hillbilly accent, or annoying English speakers with your jersey shore new York accent, you're going to have to use context to discriminate. And it works just fine.

those of you arguing for these things to be pronounced differently are just demanding that the rest of the world mispronounced things the specific way you prefer because you're incapable of figuring things out on your own. It's a failure of the education system I guess.

No matter how many words you use to try to come off as superior, you're still wrong.

:yon:

Exactly

 

[bostonfred]

There is no functional value to pronouncing them differently when there's not even a consensus on how they should be pronounced when you do. Oh, he said dahhhn? He must mean Don, unless he's from this part of the country, then he might mean dawn. Oh wait, he said dawwwn? That probably means dawn, but it might not. Or maybe he doesn't even pronounce them differently, but when he's asking a question he says it more like dawwwn but if he's stressing it at the start of the sentence he says it more like dahhhn.

No matter who you are, unless you're locked in your hometown with other people who share your exact hillbilly accent, or annoying English speakers with your jersey shore new York accent, you're going to have to use context to discriminate. And it works just fine.

those of you arguing for these things to be pronounced differently are just demanding that the rest of the world mispronounced things the specific way you prefer because you're incapable of figuring things out on your own. It's a failure of the education system I guess.

No matter how many words you use to try to come off as superior, you're still wrong.

when I read this I can actually hear banjo music

 

[jon_mx]

It is not the rest of America's problem that people in Boston pronounce all short vowels as 'aw' and reserve the use of 'ah' for saying their R's.

 

[Jack White]

Or, you know, they actually call for different inflections because they're actually different vowels?

sure, but you cant even agree with the other deniers on how those different vowels should be inflected. you're all just clinging to your own regional accents. the only logical answer is to pronounce them the same and use context, the way us educated people do.

Do you think educated people were responsible for putting Dictionary.com together?

 

[roadkill1292]

I'm taking my criticism of our Massachusetts contingent to the oth:e:r board because I need to be uncensored for it. Jesus Christ.

 

[Jack White]

Many years ago, I remember listening to Brent Musberger calling an Iowa-Michigan college football game.

And I made fun of him for calling Iowa the "Hockeyes" instead of the Hawkeyes.

Now I know it's a regional dialect issue where some people are missing some vowel sounds from their vocabulary.

 

[Don't Noonan]

Many years ago, I remember listening to Brent Musberger calling an Iowa-Michigan college football game.

And I made fun of him for calling Iowa the "Hockeyes" instead of the Hawkeyes.

Now I know it's a regional dialect issue where some people are missing some vowel sounds from their vocabulary.

I pronounce Hawkeyes the same way as Hockeyes. I honestly have no idea how you could pronounce them any differently

 

[nirad3]

Many years ago, I remember listening to Brent Musberger calling an Iowa-Michigan college football game.

And I made fun of him for calling Iowa the "Hockeyes" instead of the Hawkeyes.

Now I know it's a regional dialect issue where some people are missing some vowel sounds from their vocabulary.

I pronounce Hawkeyes the same way as Hockeyes. I honestly have no idea how you could pronounce them any differently

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Hawk=hock

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Proof. http://www.collegeflagsandbanners.com/images_products/rock_chalk_jayhawk_house_flag_25707sma.jpg

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Hawk=hock

nope

Hawk

vs

Hahk

 

[nirad3]

Hawk=hock

nope

Hawk

vs

Hahk

Coming from someone from Chicaaaaago, this makes sense.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

it's cute that people in California don't have functional hearing

 

[AAABatteries]

Hawk=hock

 

[AAABatteries]

Even after all these years I'm not sure if I really want to know if Fred and Tanner are fishing or just can't hear it.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Even after all these years I'm not sure if I really want to know if Fred and Tanner are fishing or just can't hear it.

I think Fred can hear the difference, but considers it an accent.

Tanner and these other people in California apparently can't even hear the difference. So strange.

 

[ffweasel]

Even after all these years I'm not sure if I really want to know if Fred and Tanner are fishing or just can't hear it.

I think Fred can hear the difference, but considers it an accent.

Tanner and these other people in California apparently can't even hear the difference. So strange.

I lived in California for a few years and had a few people ask me if I was from Chicago just by listening to me.

Clearly though Don=Con Dawn=Pawn.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

it's cute that people in California don't have functional hearing

It's sad that people in the north and east (and south) talk funny but they don't know it.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Even after all these years I'm not sure if I really want to know if Fred and Tanner are fishing or just can't hear it.

I think Fred can hear the difference, but considers it an accent.Tanner and these other people in California apparently can't even hear the difference. So strange.

I lived in California for a few years and had a few people ask me if I was from Chicago just by listening to me.

Clearly though Don=Con Dawn=Pawn.

All four of those sound exactly the same.

 

[Jack White]

Even after all these years I'm not sure if I really want to know if Fred and Tanner are fishing or just can't hear it.

I think Fred can hear the difference, but considers it an accent.Tanner and these other people in California apparently can't even hear the difference. So strange.

I lived in California for a few years and had a few people ask me if I was from Chicago just by listening to me.

Clearly though Don=Con Dawn=Pawn.

All four of those sound exactly the same.

I will give you credit for being tenacious on this.

Wrong, but tenacious.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

OK, geniuses.

Which is correct:

"I saw her yesterday."

Or

"I seen her yesterday."

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Even after all these years I'm not sure if I really want to know if Fred and Tanner are fishing or just can't hear it.

I think Fred can hear the difference, but considers it an accent.Tanner and these other people in California apparently can't even hear the difference. So strange.

I lived in California for a few years and had a few people ask me if I was from Chicago just by listening to me.

Clearly though Don=Con Dawn=Pawn.

All four of those sound exactly the same.

I live in the upper midwest, and yes these are identical (except for the consonants obviously). It doesn't bother me that regional accents vary, but that's how it is here.

 

[jwp]

They most definitely don't rhyme.

They'd need different first letters to do that.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

They most definitely don't rhyme.

They'd need different first letters to do that.

Seal/steel. Blog/bog. Claw/craw.

 

[cstu]

Many years ago, I remember listening to Brent Musberger calling an Iowa-Michigan college football game.

And I made fun of him for calling Iowa the "Hockeyes" instead of the Hawkeyes.

Now I know it's a regional dialect issue where some people are missing some vowel sounds from their vocabulary.

I pronounce Hawkeyes the same way as Hockeyes. I honestly have no idea how you could pronounce them any differently

Many years ago, I remember listening to Brent Musberger calling an Iowa-Michigan college football game.

And I made fun of him for calling Iowa the "Hockeyes" instead of the Hawkeyes.

Now I know it's a regional dialect issue where some people are missing some vowel sounds from their vocabulary.

I pronounce Hawkeyes the same way as Hockeyes. I honestly have no idea how you could pronounce them any differently

I'm from Iowa and they are the Hockeyes.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'm taking my criticism of our Massachusetts contingent to the oth:e:r board because I need to be uncensored for it. Jesus Christ.

You go girl.

 

[AAABatteries]

Steel and Steal do not rhyme.

 

[shuke]

Even after all these years I'm not sure if I really want to know if Fred and Tanner are fishing or just can't hear it.

I think Fred can hear the difference, but considers it an accent.Tanner and these other people in California apparently can't even hear the difference. So strange.

I lived in California for a few years and had a few people ask me if I was from Chicago just by listening to me.

Clearly though Don=Con Dawn=Pawn.

All four of those sound exactly the same.

Serious question. Do they sound the same when you say it, when others that live in your area say it, or when anyone from any dialect say it?

 

[shuke]

Steel and Steal do not rhyme.

What's this now?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Even after all these years I'm not sure if I really want to know if Fred and Tanner are fishing or just can't hear it.

I think Fred can hear the difference, but considers it an accent.Tanner and these other people in California apparently can't even hear the difference. So strange.

I lived in California for a few years and had a few people ask me if I was from Chicago just by listening to me.

Clearly though Don=Con Dawn=Pawn.

All four of those sound exactly the same.

Serious question. Do they sound the same when you say it, when others that live in your area say it, or when anyone from any dialect say it?

Sound the same to me.

People in this area say them the same.

The only time they sound different is if some goofball tries to prove that their regional accent is "correct". Meaning, they over exaggerate the way their stupid grandparents talked.

 

[cstu]

Serious question. Do they sound the same when you say it, when others that live in your area say it, or when anyone from any dialect say it?

Do you even watch TV?

 

[jon_mx]

The reason we have 5 vowels is so we can pronounce them all the same.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

They most definitely don't rhyme.

They'd need different first letters to do that.

Seal/steel. Blog/bog. Claw/craw.

He probably should have said "initial sounds".

Seal and Steel rhyme.

Steel and Steal do not rhyme.

Correct. If words are pronounced the same they do not rhyme. It is the same as saying a word rhymes with itself and it obviously can't.

 

[BroadwayG]

OK, geniuses.

Which is correct:

"I saw her yesterday."

Or

"I seen her yesterday."

I so her yesterday.