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I didn't think that was your intent. You've been very up front with me before. I was taken aback, but then got totally used to it. Don't sweat it on my behalf. You bring a good degree of knowledge to the board and are valuable to it, me, yourself.
I'd rather have Jefferson, Higgins, Mims, Pittman or Reagor than HH. So I guess that puts it more like an early 2nd for me. Possibly Moss, Dillon, and a couple more. IDK not a big HH fan, especially after Rivers is gone.
Yup. Same here, and I need a TE. I'd prefer to see how those guys pan out, aside from maybe Reagor, who stunned by running a slow 40 time.
4.47 is incredibly fast in my book. I think people have weird expectations about 40 numbers. Give me the 4.6 guy that knows what he is doing over the 4.3 guy that doesn't. So little of football is actually running faster than your opponent in a straight line. It's angles, skill, knowledge. Usain Bolt in his prime would probably have been a crappy football player. Get Lebron out there. Probably terrible. Who is the fastest basketball player? I don't know let's say Russell Westbrook. Probably ####ty at football. 4.47 is world class if he knows what he is doing. Anyway, didn't mean to direct that at you, just my own ten cents on 40 times.
Sure. No problem. I grew up, before cementing as a Jets fan, I was a Jets/Giants/Raiders fan and still cannot get over my personal streak of Al Davis-ism. Speed kills still. Ruggs is now a top ten guy because of it. I get what you're saying, but ceteris paribus or approximately, I think that .2 between Ruggs and Reagor means quite a bit. In this case, probably fifteen or so draft slots. At least. Perhaps that's old-style and antiquated NFL thinking, but I still want the forty times as an informational tool in evaluation.
I agree Ruggs will probably go first in the NFL, but not in fantasy. I'm not poo-pooing the combine or 40 times, I do think they have some value, I just think calling 4.47 slow is, well, wrong. I am sure the NFL would rather have Ruggs, and that's fine. Are teams not drafting *any* WRs after that? Is the bar set at "you're either the fastest or you're undraftable"? No, and I know you're not saying that. I just think 4.47 is absurdly fast, and for a WR that knows what he is doing, it's plenty to create space if he is a good route runner, a requirement in the NFL. It may not be the best of the best, by any means, but I think it is unbelievably misguided to call it a slow time. It was slow relative to his expectations, and that is the thing. He was expected to go faster. Well crap maybe he had a small stumble, IDK, or maybe he is just a 4.47 guy. Either way the real question is can he get open and catch? Seems he can. Quez Watkins ran a 4.35 but nobody is talking about him. Why? Because there are a dozen other things that matter, too. Anyway, rant over! Long live (the spirit of ) Al Davis!
I agree he is still top 15. I don't think I would move for a player and a 2nd unless that player really excited me. Someone that I am high on but the trade partner is low on. Not sure who fits that. I'd probably hold but I'd probably have Woods on the block perpetually. Once he starts filling boxscores inseason would probably be a better time.
Well we're treading on Assistant Coach Forum territory here, but for example I think I could get N'Keal Harry and the 2.4 in a Zealots IDP PPR league.
He kicked up some dust at the Combine and has had conversations with teams. I'm not saying he's a 2nd rounder or anything but he has a detectable profile and the athleticism to make it.barackdhouse said:
Similar question to mine with Woods. Not sure how helpful it is now but back in December I traded Fournette for Lev Bell and a 2nd.
Woods top 15? Seems like a high valuation to me, so I checked FantasyPros. As of April 2, their consensus of 16 "experts" had him at 29, with a high ranking of 24. And those rankings don't include rookies yet.Andy Dufresne said:
Hmm...now that I look closer at the names you might be right. Top 20 is still a possibility, though, if you think the two TDs were fluky.
Right, Woods' TDs were flukey low last year.
Woods is the type of guy who will have more value during the season...right now he is not a flashy name and is easily overlooked...if he continues his production of the past two years (which I fully expect...I think he is very underrated) he is the type of guy a team that thinks they can win a title will go after...if you are going to deal him that could be the best time.
Woods is one of those players who many times I covert, but once I get them........they make my lineup decisions soooooooooo hard. Good game or bad game comimg? I compare him to Mike Williams, one just never knows. And, there are many more of these type of players. Certainly not top 25 IMHO.
Can't speak for him but for me I meant in terms of where he might finish the year, not in terms of market value.
Oh, yeah, that would definitely be a different meaning. I don't think he is a top 15 dynasty WR, but there is certainly a reasonable chance he will finish as a top 15 WR. But there are probably 30 different guys who have a shot at finishing top 15, which is why both things can be true.
I'm a huge Hunter Henry fan, don't think he's even scratched the surface. And saying all that I'd not be buying him now. Buy him sometime during the season because I think he's going to have a very down year. You almost could not think of a worse QB to pair him with then Tyrod who struggles seeing middle of the field. He'll play basically the entire 2021 fantasy season as a 26 year old and I think he'll able to get out of LA next offseason so he's someone I absolutely covet and worth clutching onto for better times ahead but I'm expecting a down year in 2020 and it's not the time to buy.BroncosFan07 said:
FWIW a week or so ago I moved woods along with Mostert, 2.02, and a 2021 first for miles sanders and a 2021 second.Andy Dufresne said:
Horrendous value to trade down from 1.03 with Lamar on the board in SF...to trade all the way down to the 2.11 and only add a 9th is really unforgivable in any format. And unless I'm crazy it looks like the trade was changed after an hour and got even worse! The future 1st that had been included in the original trade was removed, seemingly. Awful.
It looks like that is some expert type league - otherwise I would be bailing right away as that would lead me to believe some kind of shenanigans were going on. As it stands it's probably some twitter "expert" thinking he's smarter than everyone else.
Weird that they re-did the trade without it after, you can see the transactions.
I have him on a non-ppr squad and I'd take a mid-ish first. Otherwise I'd hold to see what I've got.
was offered manny sanders and a couple random 3rd and 4th rds, was offered thielen (they wanted me to add a 2nd also) , was offered a 3rd and a future 2nd lol, just all over the place
Even though I'm not a Sanders guy, I might take that trade since they're about the same tier to me but I prefer the more steady scoring of the RB position. And Philly is just a better organization than Washington.
was super confused when I read "philly" and now I see that you saw "manny" and prolly thought "miles"
Since you clarified that it is Emmanuel Sanders, I’d say none of these offer are close to McLaurin’s value in dynasty.
I would reject without a response on all of this. I think I would take only one of the top 3 RBs over McLaurin and I'm not sure I would do that. He is a stud. Needs the Skins offense to improve but I wouldn't move for less than a premium 1st.
I think i would prefer chark at this point without any further clarification on the Was Qb situation.
I took a minute to think about the Thielen offer. My team was very competitive last season, even with the poor wr group, so it made me think it would just be a little more higher floor with thielen. I hated the idea of adding to my side though. He wanted a mid 2nd. None of the places I looked agreed that Thielen alone was really any more valuable, let alone enough for me to add. This draft is so deep at wr, I will likely get a player who has a decent shot at producing this year, or next and will out perform that draft slot. Especially in superflex where the position players slide some. So getting to keep McLaurin and potentially get a couple solid adds at wr is prolly better.
Going back to my previous comments, I own both McLaurin and Thielen. And I agree that Thielen has a higher floor, especially now that Diggs has moved on but he’s also significantly older and has had a few injuries the last few years. So there’s no way I’d add a 2nd to McLaurin to get Thielen. If I was in win now mode and it was a straight up swap I might consider it but that would be the only time.
I personally prefer Chubb. Especially for a rebuilding team.
I suppose 1.09 is about right but it’s a different game at te these days, hard to deal one for what you might think they’re worth because no one wants to pay for one.
FWIW Engram averaged 16.425 FFPC points before he went down.
