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I like the idea of getting the 2024 1st if it’s likely to be higher than 5.
I’d absolutely consider say, Lamb, 1.03 & a late 1st, sure. It’s fair, gets me a replacement WR who’s semi-elite and has some room to grow.
Any two firsts? 11 and 12?
Agreed.
One would have to be relatively early for me, but if I couldn’t get that done I’d probably still accept, then try to trade one of them up.
I thought we were talking about future 1sts. My bad I didn't specify
So, would you trade Chase for Lamb and let’s say the 1.08 and 1.12?
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Not sure. I'd rather have two future 1sts.
They didn’t want to pay that? Crazypants. 2x 1sts and a 2nd was a bargain. They should be kicking themselves for eternity for rejecting that. You were doing them a favor.
Chase for 1.08+ARSB+2025 2nd and swapping defenses isn’t awful. I love ARSB but I’d give him up for that pretty easily. Not sure why you had to downgrade your defense to get this done. It’s still a pretty good value for the team getting Chase without losing the Eagles D.
Much appreciated feedback from you and the others. That's how I felt as well. He does have a mid 1st value in this draft but I said no to those offers (got a one for 1.06 and another for 1.08). I don't see much of a difference between pick 1.05 - 2.02, in fact in general I've found I like the guys more who are getting mocked 1.10-2.4 better than those getting mocked higher. I said I would consider a 2024 1st, but no one wants to move those rn. He also countered the above noted verbal proposal (2.02 and a 2024 2nd) with 1.10 and 2.08 for Rhamondre and 2.09 lol.... soo it was a very easy decline for me.
I'd consider AJB there myself. And might sound crazy, but I'd also consider Mahomes. He won't last past the first round anyway, so sure you may be picking him a few spots ahead of ADP; but the point advantage he gives you over the rest of the QBs is stellar, his floor is most QB1 ceilings, and he will have a career that will likely double that of any RB you can take there. I've said elsewhere, and it's even more prominent in a start up draft: give me the safest player possible with those early 1st round picks. He will maintain his value better than just about anyone else picked in that first round.
A few spots? That's like a full couple rounds before I'd take him.
This isn’t entirely accurate. Hall has held his value remarkably well , despite tearing his ACL.
To continue my thought from my last sentence, if Joe Burrow tore his labrum today, where would you pick Chase tomorrow in a start-up?
This part is true - and I won’t fault you if you want to deal out of a top 3 start-up pick. That’s a strategic decision. But you’re also correct that value is higher in an existing league, so it would seem to make sense to take Bijan in that scenario, and then deal him down the road a spell when your league becomes “existing”.
Agree with this, but still feel Lamb is a full tier below Chase (who I believe is a tier below JJ)
All valid points, and I respect your takes here.
Anecdotal of course, but I used to see trades like this all the time in startups back in my 10+ leagues days (how did I ever have that kind of time back then?) Maybe not that exactly and maybe it was swap of a 3rd or 4th for that 2.04 but they happened quite frequently.
Ok. I’ll take you off the ledge. It better be a very good package with someone better than Carr coming back or I wouldn’t do it.
I think its probably fair'ish. In my opinion, you need at least one stud QB to compete. I think its probably a bad move for a contending team to try to get by with Carr/Goff/Ridder.
Kind of a wash really. I think they are basically of equal value. I guess if you can a startable QB and Jefferson for just Burrow, it probably gives you the best chance for immediate upside.
True though hard to say without knowing what level of upgrade JJ is to the WR room. It's a totally even deal so I don't know if anyone wins or loses the deal.
Wr room is mediocre. G Wilson, Hollywood, Ridley, Gabe Davis, Lockett, D Parker, and Allen Robinson.
that seems pretty decent to me...
Don't get me wrong, Jefferson is the best WR in the game. He would make anyone's WR room better. However, QBs are just sooo hard to get. Look at this draft. If you don't have a top 4 pick (in what's considered a good class), you aren't getting one. And if you do, he has a 50% chance of busting. Even if you're a contender picking late, you can still get a good WR prospect.
Burrow alone is worth more than JJ in SF, and Carr isn’t enough to bridge that gap.
Depends on league size as well, but Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Hurts are all worth more than JJ in SF.
I know.
Carr doesn’t bridge the gap IMO.
High variance WR room. Lots of players with fun upside but Hollywood has no QB, Ridley hasn't played in like 2 years, Gabe Davis puts up a lot of duds, Locket is getting old and got some major draft competition.
I'd keep Brown. Honestly, I may try to get another year or two out of the trio. It's a pretty stacked room.
Assuming 1QB
Oh, maybe I worded it poorly, I am the one looking to buy on those guys. A future 1st seems like a fair offer for Hill or Kupp. It's in line with what I was thinking.
For me, elite QB > elite WR. The ability to find some modicum of replacement points at the WR position is so much easier than at QB.
Just saying what I would do.
Thanks. I was hoping a QB would fall to me, but the teams picking 4-7 love stockpiling QBs in a start 1 league.
I’d definitely stand pat and grab a RB at 1.12, and if you have a mid-2nd-round pick, I‘d take another RB there to throw a few darts.
I just randomly listed my WRs, not how I rank them.
