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Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (3 Viewers)

12 team SF PPR, no K, no D/ST, start 10 very flexy lineup. I just dealt for Chase Brown.

My RB room is now Bijan, ETN, Mixon, Monty, Brown, Pierce, Gray, Guerendo, Prince, AJD

WRs are AJB, ARSB, Higgins, Jeudy, Gabe Davis, Bateman, Mike Williams, AT Perry, Iosivas

Would you deal ETN for Pittman straight up?

On the 1 hand, it would get me 4-deep at WR, and I’d still have Bijan, Monty, Mixon, Brown + scraps. On the other hand, it gets me older at RB, with only Bijan & Chase as my younger backs.

Would you do it? I have an enviable RB room and I can start 4. I could just roll as-is and hope one of Gabe Davis, Bateman, or Williams steps up as a WR4/BYE guy.

I’m torn. I like Pittman a lot. I like ETN a lot. I have them very close in dynasty value.
I hold ETN because Jacksonville has done nothing to push ETN for carries; while Indy has a lot of mouths to feed in that offense now.

I think you are deeper at receiver than running back and you would be trading your 2nd best RB for what now becomes your 4th or 5th best WR.
 
In 1/2 PPR, debating between Drake London and Nico Collins. Love them both and while Collins has the young, up and coming superstar QB, he has a lot of competition for targets at least this year and a decent chance next year as well if Diggs plays nice and the offense cooks this year. London on the other hand has old man Cousins and he will probably be there for 2 years max. After that a question mark in Penix. But should be a target hog and I see a potential Justin Jefferson type player. Leaning London but any input would be appreciated.
Just a player swap Nico for London?

In your assessment, you mentioned competition for targets. Drake London is not alone on the Falcons. I think Pitts will be involved heavily, including as a down the field threat, and Darnell Mooney is likely a lot closer to the player we thought he could be early in his career.

Nico is an interesting situation because Tank Dell, when healthy, was matching his target numbers. With another mouth to feed, I see Dalton Schultz regressing and Stefon Diggs will probably never be prime Stefon Diggs. I am probably in the minority but view Tank Dell as the player to own in Houston.

I guess my question would be, does it make more sense to include something with the trade to move up a tier and grab a guy like Garrett Wilson, ARSB?
Yeah, straight up trade.

Not that worried about Pitts. He will get his but don't see anything close to an equal target split with London. Mooney is just a guy IMO. Decent but again, not someone who will get a large target percentage.

I think London and Collins are in the same tier as Wilson. I know I'm in the minority, but wouldn't want to pay up to get him at his current value.
 
Would you trade down from the 1.02 to the 1.05 & 1.07? Just picked up a SF orphan that's absolutely gutted. Best QB is Fields. No RB1s. Waddle and Kincaid are probably the only players worth building around (arguable). MHJ would be a good cornerstone for this team, but without a serviceable QB, this team is straight up dead in the water. Moving down gives the opportunity to pick up a top tier QB and WR. In most cases, I'm against moving down into the middle 1st, but in this case, just getting warm bodies to put together a roster is probably necessary.
In SF I think I might do that for a rebuild.

That said, at 1.02 you either get the QB2 or the WR1, or possibly the QB1.

Two thoughts:
1. Do you know if 1.01 is taking Caleb?
2. Can you wait until you’re OTC to make the deal?
1. Just joined the league and don't have a good feel for what will go down with the 1.01. The owner has 2 starting QBs, but neither are superstars. He also has a talent void at WR and RB, so I could see him going either route.

2. I can definitely wait until on the clock Draft starts Friday so I should know what's up with 1.01 soon. Probably smart to wait on the off chance that Caleb falls to 1.02 and then shoot out trade offers. Thanks!
 
12 team SF PPR, no K, no D/ST, start 10 very flexy lineup. I just dealt for Chase Brown.

My RB room is now Bijan, ETN, Mixon, Monty, Brown, Pierce, Gray, Guerendo, Prince, AJD

WRs are AJB, ARSB, Higgins, Jeudy, Gabe Davis, Bateman, Mike Williams, AT Perry, Iosivas

Would you deal ETN for Pittman straight up?

On the 1 hand, it would get me 4-deep at WR, and I’d still have Bijan, Monty, Mixon, Brown + scraps. On the other hand, it gets me older at RB, with only Bijan & Chase as my younger backs.

Would you do it? I have an enviable RB room and I can start 4. I could just roll as-is and hope one of Gabe Davis, Bateman, or Williams steps up as a WR4/BYE guy.

I’m torn. I like Pittman a lot. I like ETN a lot. I have them very close in dynasty value.
Start how many RBs and how many WRs?
 
I think you are deeper at receiver than running back and you would be trading your 2nd best RB for what now becomes your 4th or 5th best WR.
You have Pittman behind Higgins & Gabe Davis? Or Jeudy or Mike Williams?

I have him well ahead of them. I consider it my 2nd best RB for what would be my WR3.
 
Probably smart to wait on the off chance that Caleb falls to 1.02 and then shoot out trade offers. Thanks!
That’s exactly what I was getting at.

I agree with others that if Caleb falls to you, he’s a cornerstone to build around.

i think MH2 might be, but not to the point that the 5 & 7 won’t make up for it.

So probably better to wait. You might even decide to take MH2 as a cornerstone player.
 
Start how many RBs and how many WRs?
It’s very flexy.

I can start
1-2 QB
2-5 RB
3-6 WR
1-2 TE

10 total
No K, no D/ST
Keep ETN unless scoring seriously favors WRs. Even then, I'm not sure I'd trade ETN for Pittman. RB scarcity and all that...
Agreed
Thanks fellas. That’s how I was leaning. Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing anything. Appreciate the input.

Irony: I traded Pittman to this team’s former owner for ETN 2 years ago when ETN was hurt.
 
I think you are deeper at receiver than running back and you would be trading your 2nd best RB for what now becomes your 4th or 5th best WR.
You have Pittman behind Higgins & Gabe Davis? Or Jeudy or Mike Williams?

I have him well ahead of them. I consider it my 2nd best RB for what would be my WR3.
You're probably right. I'm pretty bullish on Jerry Jeudy. Pittman should be slotted ahead of him, based on past performance. However, I think Jeudy bounces back. He prospected better than Pittman out of college and I think situation has hampered him.
 
In a 1.5 TE Premium, is offering Jordan Addison straight up for Andrews light, or does that feel about right?

I’m super deep at WR (Addison’s like my WR7) and I’m trying to repeat as champ this year. Pitts is my current TE1, and while I think he’ll have a good year, never hurts to add some proven production.

Edit: I should add, the team that currently rosters Andrews is in a complete rebuild
 
In a 1.5 TE Premium, is offering Jordan Addison straight up for Andrews light, or does that feel about right?

I’m super deep at WR (Addison’s like my WR7) and I’m trying to repeat as champ this year. Pitts is my current TE1, and while I think he’ll have a good year, never hurts to add some proven production.

Edit: I should add, the team that currently rosters Andrews is in a complete rebuild
I would think that could get it done - especially with a rebuilding team. They get youth, you get an older productive player.

Just better hope they don’t google him 😬
 
In a 1.5 TE Premium, is offering Jordan Addison straight up for Andrews light, or does that feel about right?

I’m super deep at WR (Addison’s like my WR7) and I’m trying to repeat as champ this year. Pitts is my current TE1, and while I think he’ll have a good year, never hurts to add some proven production.

Edit: I should add, the team that currently rosters Andrews is in a complete rebuild

Addison is the type of player that can have a decent size swing in value from Owner to Owner so my answer is I don't know...he is young and looks like he will be a good one but he has zero chance of surpassing JJ who is now locked up for the next 5 years and he has also had a couple of knucklehead car incidents which the other Owner may or may not care about...if it was me I would not deal Andrews for him but as I said the other Owner could jump on it...it is definitely worth putting out there and if you really want Andrews it may not hurt to attach another piece that would appeal to him (a young player or a draft pick) on the initial offer.
 
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In a 1.5 TE Premium, is offering Jordan Addison straight up for Andrews light, or does that feel about right?

I’m super deep at WR (Addison’s like my WR7) and I’m trying to repeat as champ this year. Pitts is my current TE1, and while I think he’ll have a good year, never hurts to add some proven production.

Edit: I should add, the team that currently rosters Andrews is in a complete rebuild
I don't think I would take that offer. Even in a rebuild, I wouldn't be looking to sell Andrew cheap, maybe he will.
 
In a 1.5 TE Premium, is offering Jordan Addison straight up for Andrews light, or does that feel about right?

I’m super deep at WR (Addison’s like my WR7) and I’m trying to repeat as champ this year. Pitts is my current TE1, and while I think he’ll have a good year, never hurts to add some proven production.

Edit: I should add, the team that currently rosters Andrews is in a complete rebuild
I don't think I would take that offer. Even in a rebuild, I wouldn't be looking to sell Andrew cheap, maybe he will.
Same here, especially in a TE premium league. I think it takes a WR in a better situation than Addison (and I am an Addison owner) or it takes Addison plus to do it.
 
In a 1.5 TE Premium, is offering Jordan Addison straight up for Andrews light, or does that feel about right?

I’m super deep at WR (Addison’s like my WR7) and I’m trying to repeat as champ this year. Pitts is my current TE1, and while I think he’ll have a good year, never hurts to add some proven production.

Edit: I should add, the team that currently rosters Andrews is in a complete rebuild
I don't think I would take that offer. Even in a rebuild, I wouldn't be looking to sell Andrew cheap, maybe he will.
Same here, especially in a TE premium league. I think it takes a WR in a better situation than Addison (and I am an Addison owner) or it takes Addison plus to do it.
Yeah, that’s what he just told me. He mentioned Nico. I guess that value is about right, that’s just a little rich for me when I look at Andrews at nearly 30 and he’s really only had one monster season which looks like a bit of an outlier at this point. I realize injuries have played a part in that, but I’m just thinking he’s probably going to be a lot closer to a 900 yard guy than the 1300 he had in 21’.
 
In a 1.5 TE Premium, is offering Jordan Addison straight up for Andrews light, or does that feel about right?

I’m super deep at WR (Addison’s like my WR7) and I’m trying to repeat as champ this year. Pitts is my current TE1, and while I think he’ll have a good year, never hurts to add some proven production.

Edit: I should add, the team that currently rosters Andrews is in a complete rebuild
I don't think I would take that offer. Even in a rebuild, I wouldn't be looking to sell Andrew cheap, maybe he will.
Same here, especially in a TE premium league. I think it takes a WR in a better situation than Addison (and I am an Addison owner) or it takes Addison plus to do it.
Yeah, that’s what he just told me. He mentioned Nico. I guess that value is about right, that’s just a little rich for me when I look at Andrews at nearly 30 and he’s really only had one monster season which looks like a bit of an outlier at this point. I realize injuries have played a part in that, but I’m just thinking he’s probably going to be a lot closer to a 900 yard guy than the 1300 he had in 21’.
I agree, would rather add something to Addison versus giving up Nico. You have Pitts, maybe reach out to the Kelce owner to see if he is willing to sell at his twilight.
 
In a 1.5 TE Premium, is offering Jordan Addison straight up for Andrews light, or does that feel about right?

I’m super deep at WR (Addison’s like my WR7) and I’m trying to repeat as champ this year. Pitts is my current TE1, and while I think he’ll have a good year, never hurts to add some proven production.

Edit: I should add, the team that currently rosters Andrews is in a complete rebuild
I don't think I would take that offer. Even in a rebuild, I wouldn't be looking to sell Andrew cheap, maybe he will.
Yeah, Andrews is worth Addison plus a second or another useful but not star player.
 
Probably smart to wait on the off chance that Caleb falls to 1.02 and then shoot out trade offers. Thanks!
That’s exactly what I was getting at.

I agree with others that if Caleb falls to you, he’s a cornerstone to build around.

i think MH2 might be, but not to the point that the 5 & 7 won’t make up for it.

So probably better to wait. You might even decide to take MH2 as a cornerstone player.
Ended up taking MHJ at 1.02. Looking to trade up into the late 1st for JJM and hoping to steal Bo Nix at 2.02. Either way, I've now got a cornerstone WR to work with.
 
Probably smart to wait on the off chance that Caleb falls to 1.02 and then shoot out trade offers. Thanks!
That’s exactly what I was getting at.

I agree with others that if Caleb falls to you, he’s a cornerstone to build around.

i think MH2 might be, but not to the point that the 5 & 7 won’t make up for it.

So probably better to wait. You might even decide to take MH2 as a cornerstone player.
Ended up taking MHJ at 1.02. Looking to trade up into the late 1st for JJM and hoping to steal Bo Nix at 2.02. Either way, I've now got a cornerstone WR to work with.
I like it.
 
I purchased an orphan and am tearing it down for a rebuild. FFPC best ball SuperFlex. I'm tanking and want to acquire young talent and picks. Got this offer:

Get: Malik Nabers, Sam Howell, 2x 2025 2nds (based on rosters, will definitely be top 5 picks)
Give: Dak Prescott, Keenan Allen, Terry McLaurin, 2025 3rd and 4th (likely be top 3 picks)

I think it's a good offer but my only hesitation is leaving my QB room super thin. Take the offer or try to go after younger qbs, picks, or both with Dak? TIA!

Roster:
QB: Penix, Dak, Fields
RB: Dowdle, Ford, Bijan, Pollard, Swift
WR: Odunze, Allen, McLaurin, Douglas, Downs, Waddle
TE: Andrews


 
I purchased an orphan and am tearing it down for a rebuild. FFPC best ball SuperFlex. I'm tanking and want to acquire young talent and picks. Got this offer:

Get: Malik Nabers, Sam Howell, 2x 2025 2nds (based on rosters, will definitely be top 5 picks)
Give: Dak Prescott, Keenan Allen, Terry McLaurin, 2025 3rd and 4th (likely be top 3 picks)

I think it's a good offer but my only hesitation is leaving my QB room super thin. Take the offer or try to go after younger qbs, picks, or both with Dak? TIA!

Roster:
QB: Penix, Dak, Fields
RB: Dowdle, Ford, Bijan, Pollard, Swift
WR: Odunze, Allen, McLaurin, Douglas, Downs, Waddle
TE: Andrews


I do it. Even though 25 is not as good of a QB class, maybe you can add a Maye or McCarthy early in season if both on the bench. I think Penixhas bright future but is it ne t year or 2026.
 
I purchased an orphan and am tearing it down for a rebuild. FFPC best ball SuperFlex. I'm tanking and want to acquire young talent and picks. Got this offer:

Get: Malik Nabers, Sam Howell, 2x 2025 2nds (based on rosters, will definitely be top 5 picks)
Give: Dak Prescott, Keenan Allen, Terry McLaurin, 2025 3rd and 4th (likely be top 3 picks)

I think it's a good offer but my only hesitation is leaving my QB room super thin. Take the offer or try to go after younger qbs, picks, or both with Dak? TIA!

Roster:
QB: Penix, Dak, Fields
RB: Dowdle, Ford, Bijan, Pollard, Swift
WR: Odunze, Allen, McLaurin, Douglas, Downs, Waddle
TE: Andrews


It doesn't leave your QB room thin. It leaves it non-existent. Fields may or may not be on a roster next year and Penix is (barring huge injury) likely 2 years from meaningful playing time. In Superflex, 2nd round picks for QBs are essentially dart throws. Build a superflex roster by starting with the QB position, followed by WR, TE, and finally RB.

I'd move Allen, McLaurin, Bijan and Dak for young, promising QBs and 2025 picks and you may be better off moving them in-season when a "contender" realizes they don't have the firepower or an injury on their team occurs.
 
I purchased an orphan and am tearing it down for a rebuild. FFPC best ball SuperFlex. I'm tanking and want to acquire young talent and picks. Got this offer:

Get: Malik Nabers, Sam Howell, 2x 2025 2nds (based on rosters, will definitely be top 5 picks)
Give: Dak Prescott, Keenan Allen, Terry McLaurin, 2025 3rd and 4th (likely be top 3 picks)

I think it's a good offer but my only hesitation is leaving my QB room super thin. Take the offer or try to go after younger qbs, picks, or both with Dak? TIA!

Roster:
QB: Penix, Dak, Fields
RB: Dowdle, Ford, Bijan, Pollard, Swift
WR: Odunze, Allen, McLaurin, Douglas, Downs, Waddle
TE: Andrews


Not enough.

Dak should be worth at least a 1st in SF, arguably much more. I’d say a future 1st + Nabers = Dak in SF.

Howell is a maybe - no idea if he’s ever going to be relevant. Sounds like Geno is fine, and SEA is as likely to draft his replacement as have Howell take that job. I’d bet more on the former.

McLaurin should net you close to a 1st (late 1st)

Allen is worth a 2nd all by himself.

Why would you be sending any picks back?

I think you’re selling way low in that for that package. Not a chance I’d take that for Dak + McLaurin + Allen.

ETA: just ran this through my 2 favorite calcs as a gut check. They have you losing this trade by ~30%
 
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I purchased an orphan and am tearing it down for a rebuild. FFPC best ball SuperFlex. I'm tanking and want to acquire young talent and picks. Got this offer:

Get: Malik Nabers, Sam Howell, 2x 2025 2nds (based on rosters, will definitely be top 5 picks)
Give: Dak Prescott, Keenan Allen, Terry McLaurin, 2025 3rd and 4th (likely be top 3 picks)

I think it's a good offer but my only hesitation is leaving my QB room super thin. Take the offer or try to go after younger qbs, picks, or both with Dak? TIA!

Roster:
QB: Penix, Dak, Fields
RB: Dowdle, Ford, Bijan, Pollard, Swift
WR: Odunze, Allen, McLaurin, Douglas, Downs, Waddle
TE: Andrews


I do it. Even though 25 is not as good of a QB class, maybe you can add a Maye or McCarthy early in season if both on the bench. I think Penixhas bright future but is it ne t year or 2026.
How’s he just gonna casually add JJM or Maye? It’s a SF league. Guaranteed those guys are rostered.

He’s getting 2x 2nd round picks so not sure how he’d deal for them.

I’m kind of confused by that suggestion.
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I purchased an orphan and am tearing it down for a rebuild. FFPC best ball SuperFlex. I'm tanking and want to acquire young talent and picks. Got this offer:

Get: Malik Nabers, Sam Howell, 2x 2025 2nds (based on rosters, will definitely be top 5 picks)
Give: Dak Prescott, Keenan Allen, Terry McLaurin, 2025 3rd and 4th (likely be top 3 picks)

I think it's a good offer but my only hesitation is leaving my QB room super thin. Take the offer or try to go after younger qbs, picks, or both with Dak? TIA!

Roster:
QB: Penix, Dak, Fields
RB: Dowdle, Ford, Bijan, Pollard, Swift
WR: Odunze, Allen, McLaurin, Douglas, Downs, Waddle
TE: Andrews


I do it. Even though 25 is not as good of a QB class, maybe you can add a Maye or McCarthy early in season if both on the bench. I think Penixhas bright future but is it ne t year or 2026.
How’s he just gonna casually add JJM or Maye? It’s a SF league. Guaranteed those guys are rostered.

He’s getting 2x 2nd round picks so not sure how he’d deal for them.

I’m kind of confused by that suggestion.
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Because we all know that players values drop if they do not come out of the gates hot. Rookie fever at draft time increases and then the what hav3 you done for me know attitude goes. Bryce Young, Quentin Johnson, JSN, Charbonnet all can be had cheaper. I am sure the Maye news right now has seen some panic. And more resources the 2 x 2nd. Andrews, Waddle and maybe even Bijan with no QB in SF depending on scoring can go anytime for the right price.
 
Because we all know that players values drop if they do not come out of the gates hot. Rookie fever at draft time increases and then the what hav3 you done for me know attitude goes. Bryce Young, Quentin Johnson, JSN, Charbonnet all can be had cheaper. I am sure the Maye news right now has seen some panic. And more resources the 2 x 2nd. Andrews, Waddle and maybe even Bijan with no QB in SF depending on scoring can go anytime for the right price.
In SF no one is selling low on a rookie QB like JJM or Maye because neither were expected to start out of the gate. Not one person I know who drafted Maye is panicking or selling low. They drafted him with full understanding that Brissett would be a bridge guy.

Sorry, but this just isn’t a realistic take at all.
 
Because we all know that players values drop if they do not come out of the gates hot. Rookie fever at draft time increases and then the what hav3 you done for me know attitude goes. Bryce Young, Quentin Johnson, JSN, Charbonnet all can be had cheaper. I am sure the Maye news right now has seen some panic. And more resources the 2 x 2nd. Andrews, Waddle and maybe even Bijan with no QB in SF depending on scoring can go anytime for the right price.
In SF no one is selling low on a rookie QB like JJM or Maye because neither were expected to start out of the gate. Not one person I know who drafted Maye is panicking or selling low. They drafted him with full understanding that Brissett would be a bridge guy.

Sorry, but this just isn’t a realistic take at all.
This.
Plus if I draft a player in first or second round that’s under performing, do you think I’m oblivious to the fact that someone is trying to buy him low? Not letting that happen. Would rather hold.
 
Plus if I draft a player in first or second round that’s under performing, do you think I’m oblivious to the fact that someone is trying to buy him low? Not letting that happen. Would rather hold.
I made a substantial deal for JJM, knowing he may not take a snap this year.

I’m not going to flip him for a random 2nd. Instead I went out and immediately dealt for Darnold to lock up the QB for MIN.

Anyone panicking over either JJM or Maye & selling for a loss just months later either shouldn’t have drafted them, or shouldn’t be playing dynasty. lol

I reject the premise that it’s even remotely possible.
 
12 team SF PPR, no K, no D/ST, start 10 very flexy lineup. I just dealt for Chase Brown.

My RB room is now Bijan, ETN, Mixon, Monty, Brown, Pierce, Gray, Guerendo, Prince, AJD

WRs are AJB, ARSB, Higgins, Jeudy, Gabe Davis, Bateman, Mike Williams, AT Perry, Iosivas

Would you deal ETN for Pittman straight up?

On the 1 hand, it would get me 4-deep at WR, and I’d still have Bijan, Monty, Mixon, Brown + scraps. On the other hand, it gets me older at RB, with only Bijan & Chase as my younger backs.

Would you do it? I have an enviable RB room and I can start 4. I could just roll as-is and hope one of Gabe Davis, Bateman, or Williams steps up as a WR4/BYE guy.

I’m torn. I like Pittman a lot. I like ETN a lot. I have them very close in dynasty value.
So I decided not to do ETN for Pittman. I just don’t see it helping me that much.

Same format, I might be able to get Chase for Bijan + AT Perry.

That’s a smash if he offers it, right?

I keep reading that Bijan won’t be getting feature back workload, lots of Allgeier, etc. Making me nervous.
 
How are we valuing Dalton Kincaid these days? He has to be one of those guys you need a pretty solid overpay to acquire, right?
I keep reading that Knox & Kincaid will both be very involved in the receiving game.

Which is less than ideal for Kincaid’s dominant target share baked into his value.

I love him though and would love to acquire him if the price was right. I think you’d either have to overpay, or wait to see if his value drops a little out the gate.
 
Who is the play with all this Aiyuk talk?
Apparently it’s Browns or Patriots. Smart move to go after Watson in case he goes there? Maybe go after Cooper in case he gets moved to SF?
 
In a 1/2 pt PPR league that gives a point for 15 yds and a 4 pt bonus at 50 yds (for either rushing or receiving) how do you compare Chase Brown to Tony Pollard?
 
In a 1/2 pt PPR league that gives a point for 15 yds and a 4 pt bonus at 50 yds (for either rushing or receiving) how do you compare Chase Brown to Tony Pollard?
Pollard is the proven reception king, even when he's splitting time. Brown can catch the ball, for sure, but his career best receptions are lower than Pollard's career worst. I think I'd give the edge to Pollard in that format even considering age.

Also, holy bonuses for bell cow backs, batman!
 
Pollard is the proven reception king, even when he's splitting time
Even on a different team when the other back is also really good out of the backfield? I am just no so sure that Pollard will be in the same role and therefore not sure if we can count on the same volume of receptions.
 
Pollard is the proven reception king, even when he's splitting time
Even on a different team when the other back is also really good out of the backfield? I am just no so sure that Pollard will be in the same role and therefore not sure if we can count on the same volume of receptions.
I think Pollard will take the majority of the 1st and 2nd down snaps. As such I have him projected at 190/850 rushing and 40/350 receiving. That's a majority of games getting the 50 yard bonus in rushing and half-ish getting the bonus receiving if it's averaged out.

I have Brown at 130/550 rushing and 35/250 receiving, getting the bonuses at a pretty significantly lower clip.

Both guys are going to be week to week plays depending on the matchup and who's playing well at the moment and in practice. In those situations, I'd lean more towards the vet on the dependability scale.
 
In a 1/2 pt PPR league that gives a point for 15 yds and a 4 pt bonus at 50 yds (for either rushing or receiving) how do you compare Chase Brown to Tony Pollard?
Pollard is the proven reception king, even when he's splitting time. Brown can catch the ball, for sure, but his career best receptions are lower than Pollard's career worst. I think I'd give the edge to Pollard in that format even considering age.

Also, holy bonuses for bell cow backs, batman!
Brown was a rookie last year. He was hurt in training camp and only saw 8 snaps through the first 11 weeks. During the last six weeks he averaged 5.2 points per week receiving PPR. Pollard averaged just under 5,2 points receiving. Pollard averaged 53 snaps per week. Brown averaged 14 snaps over the last 6 weeks.
 
Because we all know that players values drop if they do not come out of the gates hot. Rookie fever at draft time increases and then the what hav3 you done for me know attitude goes. Bryce Young, Quentin Johnson, JSN, Charbonnet all can be had cheaper. I am sure the Maye news right now has seen some panic. And more resources the 2 x 2nd. Andrews, Waddle and maybe even Bijan with no QB in SF depending on scoring can go anytime for the right price.
In SF no one is selling low on a rookie QB like JJM or Maye because neither were expected to start out of the gate. Not one person I know who drafted Maye is panicking or selling low. They drafted him with full understanding that Brissett would be a bridge guy.

Sorry, but this just isn’t a realistic take at all.
This.
Plus if I draft a player in first or second round that’s under performing, do you think I’m oblivious to the fact that someone is trying to buy him low? Not letting that happen. Would rather hold.
Right on! No one is getting T Burks from me for a 2nd!!!
 
In a 1/2 pt PPR league that gives a point for 15 yds and a 4 pt bonus at 50 yds (for either rushing or receiving) how do you compare Chase Brown to Tony Pollard?
Pollard is the proven reception king, even when he's splitting time. Brown can catch the ball, for sure, but his career best receptions are lower than Pollard's career worst. I think I'd give the edge to Pollard in that format even considering age.

Also, holy bonuses for bell cow backs, batman!
Brown was a rookie last year. He was hurt in training camp and only saw 8 snaps through the first 11 weeks. During the last six weeks he averaged 5.2 points per week receiving PPR. Pollard averaged just under 5,2 points receiving. Pollard averaged 53 snaps per week. Brown averaged 14 snaps over the last 6 weeks.
Exactly. Pollard filled the 1st and 2nd down roles with DAL last year and Brown was largely the 3rd down back. I think both backs will keep their same/similar roles this year.
 
Anyone bought Gibbs or JJM on the injury news? Seems like both could be back into form sooner rather than later and could be had for a discount.
Hard to say what JJM is gonna be until the post-op presser.

There’s a wide chasm between 3-6 weeks and 4-6 months.

Now, if you’re not expecting to use him for a year anyway, maybe a JJM shareholder might take a Mayfield+ for him, but I think it’d be unlikely.

Gibbs doesn’t sound too serious, so I kinda doubt his shareholders are panicking enough to sell low there, either.
 
Anyone bought Gibbs or JJM on the injury news? Seems like both could be back into form sooner rather than later and could be had for a discount.
If anyone is giving a discount in dynasty on Gibbs because of a tweaked hamstring, then they shouldn’t be playing in dynasty leagues.
Even JJM - I traded for him a couple months ago, and didn't expect him to start much of the year. So what's changed? Not like a torn meniscus is some mysterious injury that no player has ever recovered from like the dark ages of team sports.

This is a well-understood injury, with well-understood time-line for recovery, and JJM came out last preseason game and looked really good. He still has some of the best weapons in the game to throw to.

I don't know why someone would draft JJM top 6-7 in SF then sell for anything resembling a discount based on a minor procedure that he's virtually guaranteed to bounce back from. Especially before we know whether it's a 3-6 week thing or a 4-6 month thing. At least wait for the surgery to understand the extent.
 

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