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Earl Bennett where is the love? (1 Viewer)

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DeaLerZ

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Earl Bennett... why does no one talk about him? He is getting the majority of the targets, catching most of them, and has a great rapport with Jay Cutler that goes back into their days at Vanderbilt

85-100 receptions

1,100 yds

6-8 TD's

is not out of the question..very similar year to Steve Smith from the Giants two years ago in my opinion

Roy Williams sucks... Devin Hester never made it as a true #1 and really is just an incredible Returner.. and Johnny Knox is a speedster.. Bennett does all the hard work and the possession type stuff.. and Cutler trusts him most of all

 
I am not saying I disagree with you, but on the flipside I find it odd that the "general" news out of Chicago is constantly focusing on the battle between Knox and Williams. Is it that Bennett is such a shoe-in (ala Andre Johnson) that it is not even worth discussing or is there an underlying message that if both Knox and Williams rise to the occasion (a big if, granted), that they could both leapfrog Bennett for the #1 and #2 slots in CHI?

 
I think the love for him is still back in the pre-season of 2010.

He was such a topic last year at this time and he burned so many "jilted lovers" that, like Moreno, like JSTEW getting his own gig, like ever trying to know who will be the lead back in a Mike Shanahan system, people are just leery of dancing with them again.

I think the OP has very logical points but one thing that seems to be a constant in FF is you can't trust the team that is associated with Mike Martz to ever give you what you expect consistently.

 
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I think Bennett will be one of the 3 WRs that Martz uses. Bennett is no Az-Hakim but he'll catch his fair share of balls. I like Hester late, been running with the 1st team all camp, reports are good, he's catching balls in the games, I know many will doubt him but I see him posting his best numbers yet...still might be only go for 800/6 but should way outperform his draft slot.

 
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'DeaLerZ said:
Earl Bennett... why does no one talk about him? He is getting the majority of the targets, catching most of them, and has a great rapport with Jay Cutler that goes back into their days at Vanderbilt

85-100 receptions

1,100 yds

6-8 TD's

is not out of the question..very similar year to Steve Smith from the Giants two years ago in my opinion

Roy Williams sucks... Devin Hester never made it as a true #1 and really is just an incredible Returner.. and Johnny Knox is a speedster.. Bennett does all the hard work and the possession type stuff.. and Cutler trusts him most of all
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So Bennett will have the best season of any Bear receiver in a decade? What makes him better than he was last year?
 
'tenaka said:
'DeaLerZ said:
Earl Bennett... why does no one talk about him? He is getting the majority of the targets, catching most of them, and has a great rapport with Jay Cutler that goes back into their days at Vanderbilt

85-100 receptions

1,100 yds

6-8 TD's

is not out of the question..very similar year to Steve Smith from the Giants two years ago in my opinion

Roy Williams sucks... Devin Hester never made it as a true #1 and really is just an incredible Returner.. and Johnny Knox is a speedster.. Bennett does all the hard work and the possession type stuff.. and Cutler trusts him most of all
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So Bennett will have the best season of any Bear receiver in a decade? What makes him better than he was last year?
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If he had the best season of any Bear receiver in a decade he'd still only be a top 25 receiver.
 
Because he has Cutler for a QB.. which, if you listen to the shark pool, is quite possibly the worst QB in the history of the NFL.

 
'shnikies said:
If he had the best season of any Bear receiver in a decade he'd still only be a top 25 receiver.
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agree with this. these receivers are simply not that good and that offense, even with martz, isn't set up to give receivers a high fantasy stat ceiling. cutler was 15th best qb last year even with all of the crappy games, i don't have him this year but did have him last year and he was more than serviceable. it's not (all) cutler.
 
Bennett has improved tremendously and he's the only bears receiver that knows how to run a route consistently- that being said, he hasn't learned to run any faster. He might catch 80 passes but it might be for 850 yards, he reminds me of Troy Brown in the early 2000s (thats a compliment!). I think that many catches is probably unlikely, this offense will feed Johnny Knox (possibly Roy Williams but i think he's gone) and Hester, just no way around it. Bennett will get 50ish but not 85+. For reference no Bear WR had more than 50 last season, and for the last 2 years Bennett, Hester, and Knox have all been within about 5 catches of each other. Seems likely not to change.

 
I don't know what Bennett will do with Cutler and Martz in 2011.

I do know that Bennett put up 46-561-3 and ranked as the #61 WR with Cutler and Martz in 2010.

 
'David Yudkin said:
I don't know what Bennett will do with Cutler and Martz in 2011.I do know that Bennett put up 46-561-3 and ranked as the #61 WR with Cutler and Martz in 2010.
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Interesting. Were there any conclusions to be drawn here, or were these just statements of what you do and/or don't know?
 
'rude classless thugs said:
'David Yudkin said:
I don't know what Bennett will do with Cutler and Martz in 2011.I do know that Bennett put up 46-561-3 and ranked as the #61 WR with Cutler and Martz in 2010.
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Interesting. Were there any conclusions to be drawn here, or were these just statements of what you do and/or don't know?
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Pretty much what you see is what you get. I don't really have any idea how things will shake out in Chicago this year and who will get what in the receiving game.But I would have to wonder if Bennett were going to be a shoe-in for a ton of receptions and production, then why didn't it work out that way last year?The only thing that really changed is that they offloaded a TE (Olsen) and added another WR (Roy Williams).In fact, ADDING Martz as OC, Bennett's targets per game dropped by 10% (from 5.5 to 5.0 targets per game). People forget that the Bears threw the ball almost 100 times less last year than in 2009.Maybe Bennett will be the beneficiary of more targets and better numbers this year, but I wonder where the love is coming from (since that was the point of the thread).
 
'David Yudkin said:
'rude classless thugs said:
'David Yudkin said:
I don't know what Bennett will do with Cutler and Martz in 2011.I do know that Bennett put up 46-561-3 and ranked as the #61 WR with Cutler and Martz in 2010.
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Interesting. Were there any conclusions to be drawn here, or were these just statements of what you do and/or don't know?
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Pretty much what you see is what you get. I don't really have any idea how things will shake out in Chicago this year and who will get what in the receiving game.But I would have to wonder if Bennett were going to be a shoe-in for a ton of receptions and production, then why didn't it work out that way last year?The only thing that really changed is that they offloaded a TE (Olsen) and added another WR (Roy Williams).In fact, ADDING Martz as OC, Bennett's targets per game dropped by 10% (from 5.5 to 5.0 targets per game). People forget that the Bears threw the ball almost 100 times less last year than in 2009.Maybe Bennett will be the beneficiary of more targets and better numbers this year, but I wonder where the love is coming from (since that was the point of the thread).
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I truly believe that it took the whole year and then an off-season of retrospection for Cutler to realize he couldn't trust Hester after 2009. This repeated in 2010 for Knox and now it's Bennett's turn. From what I've seen he's improved every year and is now the number one target by default. Will he capitalize? Nobody knows for sure, but I speculate he leads the teams in targets and fantasy football is all about opportunity.
 
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'David Yudkin said:
'rude classless thugs said:
'David Yudkin said:
I don't know what Bennett will do with Cutler and Martz in 2011.I do know that Bennett put up 46-561-3 and ranked as the #61 WR with Cutler and Martz in 2010.
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Interesting. Were there any conclusions to be drawn here, or were these just statements of what you do and/or don't know?
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Pretty much what you see is what you get. I don't really have any idea how things will shake out in Chicago this year and who will get what in the receiving game.But I would have to wonder if Bennett were going to be a shoe-in for a ton of receptions and production, then why didn't it work out that way last year?The only thing that really changed is that they offloaded a TE (Olsen) and added another WR (Roy Williams).In fact, ADDING Martz as OC, Bennett's targets per game dropped by 10% (from 5.5 to 5.0 targets per game). People forget that the Bears threw the ball almost 100 times less last year than in 2009.Maybe Bennett will be the beneficiary of more targets and better numbers this year, but I wonder where the love is coming from (since that was the point of the thread).
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Martz has said that he under used bennett last year, bennett is still developing, and reports are that bennett is "getting" martz's offense better than anyone else (outside of cutler). Not a lock to be a stud, but cause for hope, I think.
 
Bennett is the only Bears WR catching the ball with any sort of consistency in the preseason. Unless Knox or Hester steps it up considerably and considering that Olsen is gone, Bennett and Forte will be the primary go-to receivers almost by default.

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Dan Pompei On the NFL

10:56 p.m. CDT, August 28, 2011

After a closer inspection of the Bears' performance in their exhibition game against the Titans on Saturday, we should give a number of players a hand.

And we should give a number of other players — namely the wide receivers — some hands.

The hands they already have weren't working very well.

Here is what stood out in the weekly film review.

Wide receivers

Bears quarterbacks had a fairly productive night throwing the ball with 277 yards, but they could have had close to 100 yards more if the wide receivers had done their jobs on catchable passes.

Of course there was Roy Williams' tip on the second play of the game that resulted in an interception. Jay Cutler hit Williams square in the hands and should have had a 20-yard gain.

We have come to expect that from Williams. We should not have to expect it from rookie free agent Dane Sanzenbacher, who dropped what could have been at least a 14-yard gain. The only reason to keep Sanzenbacher on the final 53-man roster is he is supposed to catch everything.

The game against the Titans provided an opportunity for Johnny Knox to step up, and he failed to do so. On his sideline non-catch that was reviewed and upheld, Knox did not establish possession before stepping out. He also allowed Titans cornerback Chris Hawkins to reach around and break up a pass that hit him in the hands. Knox left at least 30 yards on the field.

Devin Hester added to the trend by dropping two catchable passes.

The only receiver who did his job well was Earl Bennett.

dpompei@tribune.com

 
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IIRC he was hurt going into the season last year as well and due to missing camp time didn't have a full grasp of the Martz O.

He certainly improved his opportunity as the season went on and he got it down.

 
'treat88 said:
IIRC he was hurt going into the season last year as well and due to missing camp time didn't have a full grasp of the Martz O.He certainly improved his opportunity as the season went on and he got it down.
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This is exactly what I recall too. Not a total excuse, but his injury issue put him behind in the WR race last year (before it ever started) and it took him a while to get caught up. Then in hindsight, Martz realized Bennett should have been more involved in 2010. -I don't necessarily think this means Bennett is in for a big season, but I do expect an uptick in targets and receptions from last year at least. And while I don't have Bennett pegged as a big upside guy from a talent perspective, I think he has a little bit of upside based on situation.
 
Well, this isn't my take on things, but here is a blurb from Rotoworld...

(Rotoworld) Bears OC Mike Martz confirmed that Earl Bennett will enter the season as the slot receiver. Analysis: "Earl's our nickel receiver," said Martz. "In this offense that is kind of the premiere receiver on 3rd down." Bennett has successfully held off undrafted Dane Sanzenbacher, but he's a better NFL than fantasy receiver. His value won't be much different than that of Jason Avant's in Philadelphia.
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'Squintz82 said:
Thoughts going forward?
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I'm under the assumption that we have just seen Bennetts best game of the season. This was his second best fantasy score over the last 3 seasons. I expect him to regress back to his 4 for 50 yds or 5 for 60 type games for the rest of the season.
 
'Squintz82 said:
Thoughts going forward?
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Definitely worth an add IMO, especially after putting a hurtin on Assante and Nnamdi. Its downhill from there. As the great Jerry Garcia once said, "Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right". Maybe Bennett looked at it right. You see it happen in the NFL all the time.
 
'Squintz82 said:
Thoughts going forward?
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Seems like unless you have a dynamic talent at WR, when you play the Eagles, your best receiver will be your third option. Because your first 2 options will be covered by the best CB duo in the league..Not sure we'll see him do that well again this season.. It's fools gold in my opinion.
 
He has averaged less than 40 receiving yards per game played in his career. Maybe he breaks out.....but are you willing to start him?

 
Seems like a guy to grab in deep leagues but not worth dropping a top 20 guy for unless he does it again. After the game Cutler talked up Bennett quite a bit, but I am not sure that means anything. I know he liked him when they were at Vanderbilt, but so far that has not carried over.

 
Cutler looked as comfortable on Sunday since he came to Chicago. Seems like the Bears have finally figured out how to play to his strengths. Add the fact that Bennett was back. It reminded me of the Cutler to Royal connection in Denver.

 
I just dropped Desean Jackson for him in an auction league. I can pick Jackson up next week if he rebounds because I'll have cap space to do it, but I just think in a PPR format, Bennett could start to put up numbers similar to Shaun McDonald back in Detroit. Same system, he's better than McDonald and has a better QB. McDonald put up a lot of 6-70 and maybe a touchdown type of games. I think that's what we see going forward.

Matt Waldman did a fantastic article on Bennett over on his RSP blog. I drank the koolaid then but didn't have a chance to acquire him. Sometimes you have to roll the dice on a WR3. I like the prospect of plugging in 12 points a week there instead of the 4 or 20 that Desean may get you. Every week counts now, and I'm happier with a slot machine type of player.

 
'Dought Man said:
He has averaged less than 40 receiving yards per game played in his career. Maybe he breaks out.....but are you willing to start him?
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no but im willing to roster him on a wait and see in a year where wrs are at a minimum and thin. not to mention their schedule is pretty good for a wr.
 
I picked him up along with Culter who someone left on the WW for bye week. Waldman gave cutler a bump this week as well in the upgrade/ downgrade report.. Which I would agree with

Cutler has been very good this year, and in the few Bears games I have seen this year, I have been amazed at the number of dropped passes by Roy and Hester. My take is that the door is wide open for Bennett to establish himself as the go to guy for cutler.

Bloom also very high on Bennet in the preseason

I would also note the CHI has a great remaining schedule against the pass. This week probably the toughest..... Playoff week 14-16 ..DEN, SEA, GB

 
Picked him up in my PPR league for weeks 13-16. Gotta love his schedule regardless (KC, DEN, SEA, GB).

If you're already at the top of your league, this guy could be icing on the cake and nice insurance to your WR corps.

He has the potential, rapport, and matchups to make him look like a solid PPR play. Don't sleep, get him.

 


Bears | Johnny Knox may be returner

Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:09:10 -0800



Chicago Bears WR Johnny Knox could receive a bigger role as a kick and punt returner if WR Devin Hester (ankle) is not able to play in the game.



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Chicago Bears WR Earl Bennett may start in Week 10 if WR Devin Hester (ankle) is not able to play in the game.



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Sounds like we've got quite a wind issue in Chicago. I'm making the ill-advised Sunday Morning decision to sit Bennett down, going to trot Avant out there. Anyone else sitting him down due to the weather?

 
I still feel like Bennett should be good for 4-5 receptions even with the weather. Maybe shorter routes but 4/45, 5/50 with a 30% chance of a TD.

 
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