Electric Cars (Tesla and Others) (1 Viewer)

[Psychopav]

Aside from the Model 3, ID4, and Leaf, are there any non-SUVs which are available/about to be released which qualify for the $7500 tax credit?

To expand upon this, any decent non-SUvs EVs for under $50K, credit-eligible or not? New or used.

Anyone have experience with Kia’s EV6?

I had a 2023 EV6. A RWD, a lease. My kid totalled it last December. I got a 2024 EV6 GT AWD less than a week later. And a refund on my lease.

AMA

 

[Terminalxylem]

Aside from the Model 3, ID4, and Leaf, are there any non-SUVs which are available/about to be released which qualify for the $7500 tax credit?

To expand upon this, any decent non-SUvs EVs for under $50K, credit-eligible or not? New or used.

Anyone have experience with Kia’s EV6?

I had a 2023 EV6. A RWD, a lease. My kid totalled it last December. I got a 2024 EV6 GT AWD less than a week later. And a refund on my lease.

AMA

Is it easy to back up?

 

[Terminalxylem]

Aside from the Model 3, ID4, and Leaf, are there any non-SUVs which are available/about to be released which qualify for the $7500 tax credit?

To expand upon this, any decent non-SUvs EVs for under $50K, credit-eligible or not? New or used.

Anyone have experience with Kia’s EV6?

I had a 2023 EV6. A RWD, a lease. My kid totalled it last December. I got a 2024 EV6 GT AWD less than a week later. And a refund on my lease.

AMA

Seriously though, what do you like and dislike about the car? What other EVs did you consider?

Is the performance difference between the 2WD and AWD noticeable/worth the price?

 

[Instinctive]

It's closer to $70k but Lucid's Pure trim qualifies for the EV credit and has plenty of range. I have a higher trim and have absolutely loved it for the 18 months I've owned it.

 

[Terminalxylem]

It's closer to $70k but Lucid's Pure trim qualifies for the EV credit and has plenty of range. I have a higher trim and have absolutely loved it for the 18 months I've owned it.

That’s pretty, but a tad too rich for my blood (I told myself I’d never spend more than 20K for a car, but it looks like I’m probably gonna break that pledge).

Regardless, I thought the credit applied only to cars less than $55K?

ETA Is this what you’re talking about?

Lucid announced a $7,500 credit on some of its models purchased before March 31, 2023. The LucidAir Touring and Grand Touring are included in the deal, which have starting prices of $107,400 and $138,000, respectively.

ETA2 I found it…may need to re-reconsider my ceiling price.

 

[culdeus]

It's closer to $70k but Lucid's Pure trim qualifies for the EV credit and has plenty of range. I have a higher trim and have absolutely loved it for the 18 months I've owned it.

That’s pretty, but a tad too rich for my blood (I told myself I’d never spend more than 20K for a car, but it looks like I’m probably gonna break that pledge).

Regardless, I though the credit applied only to cars less than $55K?

ETA Is this what you’re talking about?

Lucid announced a $7,500 credit on some of its models purchased before March 31, 2023. The LucidAir Touring and Grand Touring are included in the deal, which have starting prices of $107,400 and $138,000, respectively.

There is still the lease loophole.

 

[Terminalxylem]

It's closer to $70k but Lucid's Pure trim qualifies for the EV credit and has plenty of range. I have a higher trim and have absolutely loved it for the 18 months I've owned it.

That’s pretty, but a tad too rich for my blood (I told myself I’d never spend more than 20K for a car, but it looks like I’m probably gonna break that pledge).

Regardless, I though the credit applied only to cars less than $55K?

ETA Is this what you’re talking about?

Lucid announced a $7,500 credit on some of its models purchased before March 31, 2023. The LucidAir Touring and Grand Touring are included in the deal, which have starting prices of $107,400 and $138,000, respectively.

There is still the lease loophole.

Now that’s definitely outside my comfort zone. Never had a car payment (look at me!) and have frozen my credit, so not even sure if I'd qualify to lease.

Nonetheless, what is the loophole of which you speak?

 

[culdeus]

It's closer to $70k but Lucid's Pure trim qualifies for the EV credit and has plenty of range. I have a higher trim and have absolutely loved it for the 18 months I've owned it.

That’s pretty, but a tad too rich for my blood (I told myself I’d never spend more than 20K for a car, but it looks like I’m probably gonna break that pledge).

Regardless, I though the credit applied only to cars less than $55K?

ETA Is this what you’re talking about?

Lucid announced a $7,500 credit on some of its models purchased before March 31, 2023. The LucidAir Touring and Grand Touring are included in the deal, which have starting prices of $107,400 and $138,000, respectively.

There is still the lease loophole.

Now that’s definitely outside my comfort zone. Never had a car payment (look at me!) and have frozen my credit, so not even sure if I'd qualify to lease.

Nonetheless, what is the loophole of which you speak?

Dealers can internalize the rebate and pass it on which is not limited by sales price. The risk is all on the dealers. If trump rugpulls the rebate they are ****ed.

 

[BlackCrowes]

If I was in the market right now, Kia EV6 would be top of the list

 

[BassNBrew]

It's closer to $70k but Lucid's Pure trim qualifies for the EV credit and has plenty of range. I have a higher trim and have absolutely loved it for the 18 months I've owned it.

That’s pretty, but a tad too rich for my blood (I told myself I’d never spend more than 20K for a car, but it looks like I’m probably gonna break that pledge).

Regardless, I though the credit applied only to cars less than $55K?

ETA Is this what you’re talking about?

Lucid announced a $7,500 credit on some of its models purchased before March 31, 2023. The LucidAir Touring and Grand Touring are included in the deal, which have starting prices of $107,400 and $138,000, respectively.

There is still the lease loophole.

Now that’s definitely outside my comfort zone. Never had a car payment (look at me!) and have frozen my credit, so not even sure if I'd qualify to lease.

Nonetheless, what is the loophole of which you speak?

You should look hard at a lease. Technology os changing fast.

 

[culdeus]

If I was in the market right now, Kia EV6 would be top of the list

Volvo has a few options in the next year that makes a ton of sense.

 

[Psychopav]

Aside from the Model 3, ID4, and Leaf, are there any non-SUVs which are available/about to be released which qualify for the $7500 tax credit?

To expand upon this, any decent non-SUvs EVs for under $50K, credit-eligible or not? New or used.

Anyone have experience with Kia’s EV6?

I had a 2023 EV6. A RWD, a lease. My kid totalled it last December. I got a 2024 EV6 GT AWD less than a week later. And a refund on my lease.

AMA

Seriously though, what do you like and dislike about the car? What other EVs did you consider?

Is the performance difference between the 2WD and AWD noticeable/worth the price?

The performance difference is a matter of preference. It's a gimmick. Do you really need to get to 60 in <4 seconds, or is it enough to get there a couple seconds later? It's fun though can't deny it. Also I live in Dallas so the AWD isn't necessary. Winter really isn't a concern. If I used it for more than a local commuter I'd probably prefer the extra range to the performance bells and whistles.

That said, the GT has a sunroof and tech package which I have really liked. The manual doors were kind of a pain on the Wind because they didn't always lock or unlock at a press which means I found myself reaching for the fob more often than I would like. First world problems of course. And I like the ambient lighting better in the GT. I also like the head up display. But the biggest plus is the adaptive cruise control which the Wind had too. I use it all the time even on surface streets.

I love the charging speed (the same for both trim levels). I can do fast charging and at home I have a 60 amp Level 2 circuit so it charges quickly in the garage as well.

I also looked at the Model 3 and the drive on the EV6 was much better. It wasn't a new Model 3 and I think Tesla improved the suspension so the new ones might drive better. But I do like the Kia ecosystem better than Tesla. That might just be resistance to change. I also looked at the Hyundai ioniq5 but the EV6 had better tech I base package. It was no contest really.

One thing I don't like is no wireless Car play. I got a gizmo from Amazon for that though and it works fine.

All in all really like the EV6 and am happy with the choice. I'm also glad to be leasing since the EV evolution is happening quickly and the market will look very different in a couple years when the lease is up. But I can't deny it will be very tempting to just buy the car I have now. FSD, if available in a more affordable price range then, could be the thing that lures me away from the EV6.

 

[Terminalxylem]

It's closer to $70k but Lucid's Pure trim qualifies for the EV credit and has plenty of range. I have a higher trim and have absolutely loved it for the 18 months I've owned it.

That’s pretty, but a tad too rich for my blood (I told myself I’d never spend more than 20K for a car, but it looks like I’m probably gonna break that pledge).

Regardless, I though the credit applied only to cars less than $55K?

ETA Is this what you’re talking about?

Lucid announced a $7,500 credit on some of its models purchased before March 31, 2023. The LucidAir Touring and Grand Touring are included in the deal, which have starting prices of $107,400 and $138,000, respectively.

There is still the lease loophole.

Now that’s definitely outside my comfort zone. Never had a car payment (look at me!) and have frozen my credit, so not even sure if I'd qualify to lease.

Nonetheless, what is the loophole of which you speak?

You should look hard at a lease. Technology is changing fast.

Well, my current car is almost 20 years old, and I got my first smart phone less than 5 years ago. So keeping up with tech hasn’t generally been a concern.

TBH, never even considered a lease (or car payment, for that matter), but I’m sure there are situations when it’s the right move, at least financially. Any good leasing for dummies resources?

 

[Terminalxylem]

Aside from the Model 3, ID4, and Leaf, are there any non-SUVs which are available/about to be released which qualify for the $7500 tax credit?

To expand upon this, any decent non-SUvs EVs for under $50K, credit-eligible or not? New or used.

Anyone have experience with Kia’s EV6?

I had a 2023 EV6. A RWD, a lease. My kid totalled it last December. I got a 2024 EV6 GT AWD less than a week later. And a refund on my lease.

AMA

Seriously though, what do you like and dislike about the car? What other EVs did you consider?

Is the performance difference between the 2WD and AWD noticeable/worth the price?

The performance difference is a matter of preference. It's a gimmick. Do you really need to get to 60 in <4 seconds, or is it enough to get there a couple seconds later? It's fun though can't deny it. Also I live in Dallas so the AWD isn't necessary. Winter really isn't a concern. If I used it for more than a local commuter I'd probably prefer the extra range to the performance bells and whistles.

That said, the GT has a sunroof and tech package which I have really liked. The manual doors were kind of a pain on the Wind because they didn't always lock or unlock at a press which means I found myself reaching for the fob more often than I would like. First world problems of course. And I like the ambient lighting better in the GT. I also like the head up display. But the biggest plus is the adaptive cruise control which the Wind had too. I use it all the time even on surface streets.

I love the charging speed (the same for both trim levels). I can do fast charging and at home I have a 60 amp Level 2 circuit so it charges quickly in the garage as well.

I also looked at the Model 3 and the drive on the EV6 was much better. It wasn't a new Model 3 and I think Tesla improved the suspension so the new ones might drive better. But I do like the Kia ecosystem better than Tesla. That might just be resistance to change. I also looked at the Hyundai ioniq5 but the EV6 had better tech I base package. It was no contest really.

One thing I don't like is no wireless Car play. I got a gizmo from Amazon for that though and it works fine.

All in all really like the EV6 and am happy with the choice. I'm also glad to be leasing since the EV evolution is happening quickly and the market will look very different in a couple years when the lease is up. But I can't deny it will be very tempting to just buy the car I have now. FSD, if available in a more affordable price range then, could be the thing that lures me away from the EV6.

Can you elaborate the bolded? On cursory review, the tech features seem very similar between Ioniq and EV6. I would favor Ioniq 6 over 5 though.

 

[Terminalxylem]

If I was in the market right now, Kia EV6 would be top of the list

Volvo has a few options in the next year that makes a ton of sense.

Which models?

 

[Nugget]

I’d lease or buy used. Depreciation is not improving. GF is on her third EV, current is a 2021 VW ID.4 last winter. She bought for under $25K and then got a $4K rebate.

 

[Nugget]

My MachE is stuck in Texas as it was rushed over to avoid tariffs. Hoping it still makes it to Kansas in March.

 

[culdeus]

If I was in the market right now, Kia EV6 would be top of the list

Volvo has a few options in the next year that makes a ton of sense.

Which models?

They have a few with nacs incoming and in the same spot as Tesla's.

If I was in the market right now, Kia EV6 would be top of the list

Volvo has a few options in the next year that makes a ton of sense.

Which models?

The upcoming ex30/40 each look great. 40 is more for those that demand buttons.

 

[Psychopav]

Aside from the Model 3, ID4, and Leaf, are there any non-SUVs which are available/about to be released which qualify for the $7500 tax credit?

To expand upon this, any decent non-SUvs EVs for under $50K, credit-eligible or not? New or used.

Anyone have experience with Kia’s EV6?

I had a 2023 EV6. A RWD, a lease. My kid totalled it last December. I got a 2024 EV6 GT AWD less than a week later. And a refund on my lease.

AMA

Seriously though, what do you like and dislike about the car? What other EVs did you consider?

Is the performance difference between the 2WD and AWD noticeable/worth the price?

The performance difference is a matter of preference. It's a gimmick. Do you really need to get to 60 in <4 seconds, or is it enough to get there a couple seconds later? It's fun though can't deny it. Also I live in Dallas so the AWD isn't necessary. Winter really isn't a concern. If I used it for more than a local commuter I'd probably prefer the extra range to the performance bells and whistles.

That said, the GT has a sunroof and tech package which I have really liked. The manual doors were kind of a pain on the Wind because they didn't always lock or unlock at a press which means I found myself reaching for the fob more often than I would like. First world problems of course. And I like the ambient lighting better in the GT. I also like the head up display. But the biggest plus is the adaptive cruise control which the Wind had too. I use it all the time even on surface streets.

I love the charging speed (the same for both trim levels). I can do fast charging and at home I have a 60 amp Level 2 circuit so it charges quickly in the garage as well.

I also looked at the Model 3 and the drive on the EV6 was much better. It wasn't a new Model 3 and I think Tesla improved the suspension so the new ones might drive better. But I do like the Kia ecosystem better than Tesla. That might just be resistance to change. I also looked at the Hyundai ioniq5 but the EV6 had better tech I base package. It was no contest really.

One thing I don't like is no wireless Car play. I got a gizmo from Amazon for that though and it works fine.

All in all really like the EV6 and am happy with the choice. I'm also glad to be leasing since the EV evolution is happening quickly and the market will look very different in a couple years when the lease is up. But I can't deny it will be very tempting to just buy the car I have now. FSD, if available in a more affordable price range then, could be the thing that lures me away from the EV6.

Can you elaborate the bolded? On cursory review, the tech features seem very similar between Ioniq and EV6. I would favor Ioniq 6 over 5 though.

What you got in the base model was different (at least in the 2023 models when I shopped). You'd have to compare today to see if Hyundai has changed up the way they charge extra for basics like adaptive cruise and automatic wipers.

 

[Tick]

Aside from the Model 3, ID4, and Leaf, are there any non-SUVs which are available/about to be released which qualify for the $7500 tax credit?

To expand upon this, any decent non-SUvs EVs for under $50K, credit-eligible or not? New or used.

Anyone have experience with Kia’s EV6?

I had a 2023 EV6. A RWD, a lease. My kid totalled it last December. I got a 2024 EV6 GT AWD less than a week later. And a refund on my lease.

AMA

Seriously though, what do you like and dislike about the car? What other EVs did you consider?

Is the performance difference between the 2WD and AWD noticeable/worth the price?

The performance difference is a matter of preference. It's a gimmick. Do you really need to get to 60 in <4 seconds, or is it enough to get there a couple seconds later? It's fun though can't deny it. Also I live in Dallas so the AWD isn't necessary. Winter really isn't a concern. If I used it for more than a local commuter I'd probably prefer the extra range to the performance bells and whistles.

That said, the GT has a sunroof and tech package which I have really liked. The manual doors were kind of a pain on the Wind because they didn't always lock or unlock at a press which means I found myself reaching for the fob more often than I would like. First world problems of course. And I like the ambient lighting better in the GT. I also like the head up display. But the biggest plus is the adaptive cruise control which the Wind had too. I use it all the time even on surface streets.

I love the charging speed (the same for both trim levels). I can do fast charging and at home I have a 60 amp Level 2 circuit so it charges quickly in the garage as well.

I also looked at the Model 3 and the drive on the EV6 was much better. It wasn't a new Model 3 and I think Tesla improved the suspension so the new ones might drive better. But I do like the Kia ecosystem better than Tesla. That might just be resistance to change. I also looked at the Hyundai ioniq5 but the EV6 had better tech I base package. It was no contest really.

One thing I don't like is no wireless Car play. I got a gizmo from Amazon for that though and it works fine.

All in all really like the EV6 and am happy with the choice. I'm also glad to be leasing since the EV evolution is happening quickly and the market will look very different in a couple years when the lease is up. But I can't deny it will be very tempting to just buy the car I have now. FSD, if available in a more affordable price range then, could be the thing that lures me away from the EV6.

Gizmo link?

 

[Psychopav]

Aside from the Model 3, ID4, and Leaf, are there any non-SUVs which are available/about to be released which qualify for the $7500 tax credit?

To expand upon this, any decent non-SUvs EVs for under $50K, credit-eligible or not? New or used.

Anyone have experience with Kia’s EV6?

I had a 2023 EV6. A RWD, a lease. My kid totalled it last December. I got a 2024 EV6 GT AWD less than a week later. And a refund on my lease.

AMA

Seriously though, what do you like and dislike about the car? What other EVs did you consider?

Is the performance difference between the 2WD and AWD noticeable/worth the price?

The performance difference is a matter of preference. It's a gimmick. Do you really need to get to 60 in <4 seconds, or is it enough to get there a couple seconds later? It's fun though can't deny it. Also I live in Dallas so the AWD isn't necessary. Winter really isn't a concern. If I used it for more than a local commuter I'd probably prefer the extra range to the performance bells and whistles.

That said, the GT has a sunroof and tech package which I have really liked. The manual doors were kind of a pain on the Wind because they didn't always lock or unlock at a press which means I found myself reaching for the fob more often than I would like. First world problems of course. And I like the ambient lighting better in the GT. I also like the head up display. But the biggest plus is the adaptive cruise control which the Wind had too. I use it all the time even on surface streets.

I love the charging speed (the same for both trim levels). I can do fast charging and at home I have a 60 amp Level 2 circuit so it charges quickly in the garage as well.

I also looked at the Model 3 and the drive on the EV6 was much better. It wasn't a new Model 3 and I think Tesla improved the suspension so the new ones might drive better. But I do like the Kia ecosystem better than Tesla. That might just be resistance to change. I also looked at the Hyundai ioniq5 but the EV6 had better tech I base package. It was no contest really.

One thing I don't like is no wireless Car play. I got a gizmo from Amazon for that though and it works fine.

All in all really like the EV6 and am happy with the choice. I'm also glad to be leasing since the EV evolution is happening quickly and the market will look very different in a couple years when the lease is up. But I can't deny it will be very tempting to just buy the car I have now. FSD, if available in a more affordable price range then, could be the thing that lures me away from the EV6.

Gizmo link?

Amazon doesn't have the one I bought any more. But if you search for "wireless carplay (or android auto) adapter" you'll find bunches of 'em.

 

[Terminalxylem]

I’m sure this has been discussed upthread, but how are EV owners charging your vehicles? Just a 240 outlet, or dedicated charging station? I’m completely new to this, so explain it like I’m a toddler.

 

[thecatch]

I’m sure this has been discussed upthread, but how are EV owners charging your vehicles? Just a 240 outlet, or dedicated charging station? I’m completely new to this, so explain it like I’m a toddler.

Dedicated charger installed at home. After rebates and shopping around between different contractors, it cost about $1000 for the charging unit and installation combined.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I’m sure this has been discussed upthread, but how are EV owners charging your vehicles? Just a 240 outlet, or dedicated charging station? I’m completely new to this, so explain it like I’m a toddler.

Hospital i work at has 6 free charging stations

 

[BlackCrowes]

I’m sure this has been discussed upthread, but how are EV owners charging your vehicles? Just a 240 outlet, or dedicated charging station? I’m completely new to this, so explain it like I’m a toddler.

I just had a 240V outlet installed in my garage.

 

[culdeus]

240 at home is all anyone would ever need. 110 in a pinch is ok. More workplaces and hotels should just be putting out 110 outlets for mobile charging. It at least keeps you moving.

 

[Instinctive]

I’m sure this has been discussed upthread, but how are EV owners charging your vehicles? Just a 240 outlet, or dedicated charging station? I’m completely new to this, so explain it like I’m a toddler.

I have a 48a home charger installed. Charger was like $300, install was like $450. 60a breaker. Keeps things nice and easy.

 

[the moops]

I’m sure this has been discussed upthread, but how are EV owners charging your vehicles? Just a 240 outlet, or dedicated charging station? I’m completely new to this, so explain it like I’m a toddler.

I just had a 240V outlet installed in my garage.

Yep, chose that over the dedicated charger because I may need that 240V outlet if I ever do some welding.

Chevy was running a promo (not sure if they still are) that covered the cost of the install.

 

[the moops]

I’m sure this has been discussed upthread, but how are EV owners charging your vehicles? Just a 240 outlet, or dedicated charging station? I’m completely new to this, so explain it like I’m a toddler.

Hospital i work at has 6 free charging stations

Also my wife's work has two free chargers, so we do try and time it so we charge there rather than in our garage (she only goes in twice a week which is generally sufficient charging for our driving needs)

 

[eoMMan]

When renting a car, I noticed that the electric cars are CHEAPER than the gas powered ones (I was looking at the Philly airport rental agencies). Why?

I've never driven an electric car and would willing to try an electric rental but I'd be paranoid that I wouldn't be able to find enough charging stations around and in particular, when returning the car to the Philly airport. Do they give you a map or a link to where all the charging stations are? I'm out of the loop on this. Does WaWa have EV stations that are compatible will all EV brands?

 

[the moops]

When renting a car, I noticed that the electric cars are CHEAPER than the gas powered ones (I was looking at the Philly airport rental agencies). Why?

I've never driven an electric car and would willing to try an electric rental but I'd be paranoid that I wouldn't be able to find enough charging stations around and in particular, when returning the car to the Philly airport. Do they give you a map or a link to where all the charging stations are? I'm out of the loop on this. Does WaWa have EV stations that are compatible will all EV brands?

If you are in any sizable metropolis charging should be no issue. Tesla is the "easiest" EV to rent for their charging network is vast and easy to find. But we have rented several other EVs before and haven't had any major issues navigating to chargers.

 

[Psychopav]

I’m sure this has been discussed upthread, but how are EV owners charging your vehicles? Just a 240 outlet, or dedicated charging station? I’m completely new to this, so explain it like I’m a toddler.

I have a 48a home charger installed. Charger was like $300, install was like $450. 60a breaker. Keeps things nice and easy.

Ditto. Works great. I would always recommend a 60a breaker regardless of the car you get. Even if you can't take full advantage of the 48a level 2 charging, you may get a car later that would be able to.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I’m sure this has been discussed upthread, but how are EV owners charging your vehicles? Just a 240 outlet, or dedicated charging station? I’m completely new to this, so explain it like I’m a toddler.

240

 

[culdeus]

When renting a car, I noticed that the electric cars are CHEAPER than the gas powered ones (I was looking at the Philly airport rental agencies). Why?

I've never driven an electric car and would willing to try an electric rental but I'd be paranoid that I wouldn't be able to find enough charging stations around and in particular, when returning the car to the Philly airport. Do they give you a map or a link to where all the charging stations are? I'm out of the loop on this. Does WaWa have EV stations that are compatible will all EV brands?

I wouldn't want to chase down a charger before returning the car. That would be my main worry. Tesla or not.

 

[Chadstroma]

When renting a car, I noticed that the electric cars are CHEAPER than the gas powered ones (I was looking at the Philly airport rental agencies). Why?

I've never driven an electric car and would willing to try an electric rental but I'd be paranoid that I wouldn't be able to find enough charging stations around and in particular, when returning the car to the Philly airport. Do they give you a map or a link to where all the charging stations are? I'm out of the loop on this. Does WaWa have EV stations that are compatible will all EV brands?

If I am in a trip, I wouldn't want to have to figure out the whole charging situation. I just want to get in and go.

Maybe if I owned an EV then I would be more open to it but now, nope. No interest at all.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

When renting a car, I noticed that the electric cars are CHEAPER than the gas powered ones (I was looking at the Philly airport rental agencies). Why?

I've never driven an electric car and would willing to try an electric rental but I'd be paranoid that I wouldn't be able to find enough charging stations around and in particular, when returning the car to the Philly airport. Do they give you a map or a link to where all the charging stations are? I'm out of the loop on this. Does WaWa have EV stations that are compatible will all EV brands?

You kind of answered your own question.

Most people are anxious about having to charge the vehicle (especially if they're not already EV owners that have experience doing so) and hence would rather rent a gas car when on vacation, which drives the prices of EV rentals down.

Plus, the best EV experience is when you can charge at home. So if you're on vacation and not staying somewhere with a charger that takes away a lot of the draw of having an EV.

 

[Chaos34]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

 

[fruity pebbles]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

California is quite different than a lot of states though.

 

[Chaos34]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

California is quite different than a lot of states though.

I've looked at charging station maps all over the country. You'd be hard pressed to find a dozen 6 hr routes less serviced than this one. The 95 from Vegas to Tahoe is also barren of civilization and I've done it a couple times with no worries. Can't miss your station on that one though. My Tesla protests if drive past it.

 

[fruity pebbles]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

California is quite different than a lot of states though.

I've looked at charging station maps all over the country. You'd be hard pressed to find a dozen 6 hr routes less serviced than this one. The 95 from Vegas to Tahoe is also barren of civilization and I've done it a couple times with no worries. Can't miss your station on that one though. My Tesla protests if drive past it.

Gotcha. I think a lot of the range anxiety is the consequence of what happens if you do run dry. Gas vehicle, you call AAA or a friend and they bring you some gas. EV, you need to be towed to the nearest charging station.

 

[Chaos34]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

California is quite different than a lot of states though.

I've looked at charging station maps all over the country. You'd be hard pressed to find a dozen 6 hr routes less serviced than this one. The 95 from Vegas to Tahoe is also barren of civilization and I've done it a couple times with no worries. Can't miss your station on that one though. My Tesla protests if drive past it.

Gotcha. I think a lot of the range anxiety is the consequence of what happens if you do run dry. Gas vehicle, you call AAA or a friend and they bring you some gas. EV, you need to be towed to the nearest charging station.

Range anxiety is almost funny to me. I've had the 330 mile Model Y for a few years and never had an issue. Even so, when I consider a new ev, the first thing I look at is RANGE. If deciding between two, I'll avoid one I like better for one with more RANGE.

 

[fruity pebbles]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

California is quite different than a lot of states though.

I've looked at charging station maps all over the country. You'd be hard pressed to find a dozen 6 hr routes less serviced than this one. The 95 from Vegas to Tahoe is also barren of civilization and I've done it a couple times with no worries. Can't miss your station on that one though. My Tesla protests if drive past it.

Gotcha. I think a lot of the range anxiety is the consequence of what happens if you do run dry. Gas vehicle, you call AAA or a friend and they bring you some gas. EV, you need to be towed to the nearest charging station.

Range anxiety is almost funny to me. I've had the 330 mile Model Y for a few years and never had an issue. Even so, when I consider a new ev, the first thing I look at is RANGE. If deciding between two, I'll avoid one I like better for one with more RANGE.

I admit I get it but I have a nervous personality anyways. My fear is planning a trip in a desolate area and the station I mapped out is out of order. More so in the winter than summer because the range can really drop quickly in certain conditions.

 

[Instinctive]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

California is quite different than a lot of states though.

I've looked at charging station maps all over the country. You'd be hard pressed to find a dozen 6 hr routes less serviced than this one. The 95 from Vegas to Tahoe is also barren of civilization and I've done it a couple times with no worries. Can't miss your station on that one though. My Tesla protests if drive past it.

Gotcha. I think a lot of the range anxiety is the consequence of what happens if you do run dry. Gas vehicle, you call AAA or a friend and they bring you some gas. EV, you need to be towed to the nearest charging station.

Range anxiety is almost funny to me. I've had the 330 mile Model Y for a few years and never had an issue. Even so, when I consider a new ev, the first thing I look at is RANGE. If deciding between two, I'll avoid one I like better for one with more RANGE.

I admit I get it but I have a nervous personality anyways. My fear is planning a trip in a desolate area and the station I mapped out is out of order. More so in the winter than summer because the range can really drop quickly in certain conditions.

It's less about the nervousness for me, and more about the time it takes to charge. Although there is still some nervousness if I were to go somewhere more rural. Charging isn't prevalent or reliable enough to be remotely comparable to gas stations. And if you're not in your network it can be really pricey.

 

[Psychopav]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

California is quite different than a lot of states though.

I've looked at charging station maps all over the country. You'd be hard pressed to find a dozen 6 hr routes less serviced than this one. The 95 from Vegas to Tahoe is also barren of civilization and I've done it a couple times with no worries. Can't miss your station on that one though. My Tesla protests if drive past it.

Gotcha. I think a lot of the range anxiety is the consequence of what happens if you do run dry. Gas vehicle, you call AAA or a friend and they bring you some gas. EV, you need to be towed to the nearest charging station.

Range anxiety is almost funny to me. I've had the 330 mile Model Y for a few years and never had an issue. Even so, when I consider a new ev, the first thing I look at is RANGE. If deciding between two, I'll avoid one I like better for one with more RANGE.

I admit I get it but I have a nervous personality anyways. My fear is planning a trip in a desolate area and the station I mapped out is out of order. More so in the winter than summer because the range can really drop quickly in certain conditions.

It's less about the nervousness for me, and more about the time it takes to charge. Although there is still some nervousness if I were to go somewhere more rural. Charging isn't prevalent or reliable enough to be remotely comparable to gas stations. And if you're not in your network it can be really pricey.

That's why you lease a Kia and get the free Electricity America fast charging.

 

[Instinctive]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

California is quite different than a lot of states though.

I've looked at charging station maps all over the country. You'd be hard pressed to find a dozen 6 hr routes less serviced than this one. The 95 from Vegas to Tahoe is also barren of civilization and I've done it a couple times with no worries. Can't miss your station on that one though. My Tesla protests if drive past it.

Gotcha. I think a lot of the range anxiety is the consequence of what happens if you do run dry. Gas vehicle, you call AAA or a friend and they bring you some gas. EV, you need to be towed to the nearest charging station.

Range anxiety is almost funny to me. I've had the 330 mile Model Y for a few years and never had an issue. Even so, when I consider a new ev, the first thing I look at is RANGE. If deciding between two, I'll avoid one I like better for one with more RANGE.

I admit I get it but I have a nervous personality anyways. My fear is planning a trip in a desolate area and the station I mapped out is out of order. More so in the winter than summer because the range can really drop quickly in certain conditions.

It's less about the nervousness for me, and more about the time it takes to charge. Although there is still some nervousness if I were to go somewhere more rural. Charging isn't prevalent or reliable enough to be remotely comparable to gas stations. And if you're not in your network it can be really pricey.

That's why you lease a Kia and get the free Electricity America fast charging.

I have free EA charging. Which then limits me to just EA if I want to save money (which I almost always do).

I love my car, but I definitely do not love that I have to thoughtfully plan to stop 5 minutes off the highway in one spot, or drive 20 minutes past my destination to get to the other spot, whenever I drive Dallas to Norman. So I end up taking our gas car, which is not as nice a ride. Because I know I can make it there and back on one tank if I start full AND I know I can easily get gas basically anywhere along the way. Those things aren't true of my 400-mile range EV.

 

[culdeus]

When renting a car, I noticed that the electric cars are CHEAPER than the gas powered ones (I was looking at the Philly airport rental agencies). Why?

I've never driven an electric car and would willing to try an electric rental but I'd be paranoid that I wouldn't be able to find enough charging stations around and in particular, when returning the car to the Philly airport. Do they give you a map or a link to where all the charging stations are? I'm out of the loop on this. Does WaWa have EV stations that are compatible will all EV brands?

If I am in a trip, I wouldn't want to have to figure out the whole charging situation. I just want to get in and go.

Maybe if I owned an EV then I would be more open to it but now, nope. No interest at all.

I own two evs and have no interest in renting one

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

California is quite different than a lot of states though.

I've looked at charging station maps all over the country. You'd be hard pressed to find a dozen 6 hr routes less serviced than this one. The 95 from Vegas to Tahoe is also barren of civilization and I've done it a couple times with no worries. Can't miss your station on that one though. My Tesla protests if drive past it.

Gotcha. I think a lot of the range anxiety is the consequence of what happens if you do run dry. Gas vehicle, you call AAA or a friend and they bring you some gas. EV, you need to be towed to the nearest charging station.

Range anxiety is almost funny to me. I've had the 330 mile Model Y for a few years and never had an issue. Even so, when I consider a new ev, the first thing I look at is RANGE. If deciding between two, I'll avoid one I like better for one with more RANGE.

We purchased a 2021 long range, AWD model Y with 80k miles from Tesla in August and I totally agree with this sentiment. I also find that if I leave the "Range" display on battery % instead of miles remaining, I get less (meaning none) range anxiety. Oddly, in a gas vehicle, I almost always let it get as close to zero as I could.

FYI, I am loving the model Y. It makes every other vehicle (including a Kia eNiro) feel obsolete.

 

[Instinctive]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

California is quite different than a lot of states though.

I've looked at charging station maps all over the country. You'd be hard pressed to find a dozen 6 hr routes less serviced than this one. The 95 from Vegas to Tahoe is also barren of civilization and I've done it a couple times with no worries. Can't miss your station on that one though. My Tesla protests if drive past it.

Gotcha. I think a lot of the range anxiety is the consequence of what happens if you do run dry. Gas vehicle, you call AAA or a friend and they bring you some gas. EV, you need to be towed to the nearest charging station.

Range anxiety is almost funny to me. I've had the 330 mile Model Y for a few years and never had an issue. Even so, when I consider a new ev, the first thing I look at is RANGE. If deciding between two, I'll avoid one I like better for one with more RANGE.

We purchased a 2021 long range, AWD model Y with 80k miles from Tesla in August and I totally agree with this sentiment. I also find that if I leave the "Range" display on battery % instead of miles remaining, I get less (meaning none) range anxiety. Oddly, in a gas vehicle, I almost always let it get as close to zero as I could.

FYI, I am loving the model Y. It makes every other vehicle (including a Kia eNiro) feel obsolete.

This isn't that odd though. It's because there's a gas station within a few miles and on your route like 99% of the time.

 

[the moops]

And if you're not in your network it can be really pricey.

I dint think this is accurate. We have rented several EVs and driven all over Arizona and California and a couple other states. We are not part of any network. It was like 30 something dollars to charge most times.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

hey google... nearest charging stations near me?

Range anxiety is real, but reality is different. I've made dozens of long trips, and most of them through sparsely populated regions. I leave the SoCal desert on a 6 hr ride to Tahoe regularly. Bishop (town of 14K) is on the way, otherwise just small towns. The only issue is fueling is 5xs faster than charging. I could gas up where I charge in 5-10 minutes. Charging takes 30-45. So I go for a little walk to stretch my legs, get a bite. I've grown to prefer it cuz at 63 my legs get stiff on long drives.

California is quite different than a lot of states though.

I've looked at charging station maps all over the country. You'd be hard pressed to find a dozen 6 hr routes less serviced than this one. The 95 from Vegas to Tahoe is also barren of civilization and I've done it a couple times with no worries. Can't miss your station on that one though. My Tesla protests if drive past it.

Gotcha. I think a lot of the range anxiety is the consequence of what happens if you do run dry. Gas vehicle, you call AAA or a friend and they bring you some gas. EV, you need to be towed to the nearest charging station.

Range anxiety is almost funny to me. I've had the 330 mile Model Y for a few years and never had an issue. Even so, when I consider a new ev, the first thing I look at is RANGE. If deciding between two, I'll avoid one I like better for one with more RANGE.

We purchased a 2021 long range, AWD model Y with 80k miles from Tesla in August and I totally agree with this sentiment. I also find that if I leave the "Range" display on battery % instead of miles remaining, I get less (meaning none) range anxiety. Oddly, in a gas vehicle, I almost always let it get as close to zero as I could.

FYI, I am loving the model Y. It makes every other vehicle (including a Kia eNiro) feel obsolete.

This isn't that odd though. It's because there's a gas station within a few miles and on your route like 99% of the time.

Pretty much the same with Tesla superchargers, at least these days. I was surprised how many there were on pretty much every stretch of road in the states that we've driven it through.