I am in the exact same boat. Weather kicked my ###, no time to change lineups and it all went WAY downhill.
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karmarooster
Footballguy
despite having a lot of sucky WRs (Cruz, Wright), I'm doing pretty well, and can do really well if Murray, Forte, and McCown hold it down tonight. I hit pretty well on RBs - Charles, Rainey, Vereen... still with Murray and Forte.
I'm done with Cruz, and all Giants WRs for that matter. It's too difficult to pick one of 3 when there isn't that much to go around, even when the matchup is right.
Also played and won (3rd/10) my first 109 50/50 with a 138... I think I'm going to look into that applet and try to cherry pick some more of those. 133 was the last place winner, with 131 out of the money. The potential variance is a little scary with only 10 teams... even cherry picking, it could be tough when the entry is roughly 1/4 of my current bankroll.
At one point, with only Jimmy Graham, I was being chased by a guy with only Brees, who was ~3 points behind, trying to knock me down from 5th to 6th. He threw a TD to colston that was called back... and then threw two TDs to Graham. On each of those I got a point up on him, and then a few short completions to Graham sealed it. We ended up leapfrogging someone, and both finished in the money... but for a while it was very much in doubt. Made for an awesome game last night!
I'm done with Cruz, and all Giants WRs for that matter. It's too difficult to pick one of 3 when there isn't that much to go around, even when the matchup is right.
Also played and won (3rd/10) my first 109 50/50 with a 138... I think I'm going to look into that applet and try to cherry pick some more of those. 133 was the last place winner, with 131 out of the money. The potential variance is a little scary with only 10 teams... even cherry picking, it could be tough when the entry is roughly 1/4 of my current bankroll.
At one point, with only Jimmy Graham, I was being chased by a guy with only Brees, who was ~3 points behind, trying to knock me down from 5th to 6th. He threw a TD to colston that was called back... and then threw two TDs to Graham. On each of those I got a point up on him, and then a few short completions to Graham sealed it. We ended up leapfrogging someone, and both finished in the money... but for a while it was very much in doubt. Made for an awesome game last night!
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karmarooster
Footballguy
Also - if anyone is looking for a way to get a GF into fantasy sports, the Daily scene is much more immediately understand-able than traditional re-draft and dynasty leagues. I told my GF she can use my winnings to buy a new bag... whatever they end up being. Started with $100 on FD this year, now up to around $400. But if I keep winning, the bag-money keeps going up. After the second Jimmy Graham TD, she was screaming "and there's my wallet!"
Probably wouldn't have made a difference due to my Terrible Choice of receivers (Smith, BAL Floyd, list goes on and on) but it might have helped a bit.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
I'm running out of steam on this stuff. I guess with the holidays and everything I just don't have the time or motivation to put a full effort into it anymore. Only wagered $114 this week (after usually putting up $350+ each of the last eight weeks or so).
I started with about $125, was up to ~$900 coming into this week. My goal was to hit $1,000 by the end of the NFL season, and I'm close with a few weeks left but I think I'm going to take a week off and see if I still feel like playing next week. I may just call it a season and fire it up again next year.
I started with about $125, was up to ~$900 coming into this week. My goal was to hit $1,000 by the end of the NFL season, and I'm close with a few weeks left but I think I'm going to take a week off and see if I still feel like playing next week. I may just call it a season and fire it up again next year.
snellman
Footballguy
Got enough production to end up +$4 for the week. Considering what it looked like last night I will take it.
Hopefully we can get 1 more week out of McCown even though Cleveland's D is MUCH better than Dallas.
Just glancing over the players this week, some of these salaries are getting insane. Getting harder to find good value this late in the year.
Hopefully we can get 1 more week out of McCown even though Cleveland's D is MUCH better than Dallas.
Just glancing over the players this week, some of these salaries are getting insane. Getting harder to find good value this late in the year.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Finished 11/12 on the weekend....and likely either 2/3 or 3/3 on Primetime's.
Still noticing a good number of new players each week in these contests. Between that and reading some of you guys losing steam (I don't think you're the only one's), I'm looking to have a nice month to finish strong overall.
gcmmidwest
Footballguy
karmarooster
Footballguy
Finished the week up around 85%, now up 365% for the year ($100 initial to $465)
Does anyone have the link to the applet that lets you preview the players/wins of the contest?
Does anyone have the link to the applet that lets you preview the players/wins of the contest?
Steeler
Footballguy
karmarooster
Footballguy
Awesome, thanks for sharing.
As a recommendation for future functionality, it would be cool if you could mouse over a game and the bookmarklet would display the "average number of wins" among all the entries. Not sure if that would be difficult to implement, but would be an easy way to compare different games.
As a recommendation for future functionality, it would be cool if you could mouse over a game and the bookmarklet would display the "average number of wins" among all the entries. Not sure if that would be difficult to implement, but would be an easy way to compare different games.
ajm27501
Footballguy
It looks like they are introducing a new contest format: "Head to Head Matrix". Basically like you are playing 20 people H2H all at the same time.
https://www.fanduel.com/insider/2013/12/10/new-contest-format-alert-the-head-to-head-matrix/
https://www.fanduel.com/insider/2013/12/10/new-contest-format-alert-the-head-to-head-matrix/
(HULK)
(Smash)
So, last week, after going from roughly $600 to $9, I vowwed to quit.
Welp, I didn't. I couldn't stand having lost money at this.
I started initially with $100. I had lost most of that so I had added another $100, and I had built that up to about $600 which I then lost all at once thanks to Jordan Reed's headache.
So, spur of the moment, I decided to deposit $535 and enter a $535 head to head contest for $1000.
There weren't a lot of opponent options as that price level, so I ended up facing off against "ehafner", a guy with 17,000 total wins and over 1,400 NFL wins.
My tight end, kicker, and defense ended up scoring a COMBINED 5 points. Laderius Green, Dan Bailey, and the Patriots.
Fortunately, as usual, I'm really good at filling out the rest of my roster. I scored 141 points and won by about 15 points.
Hello $1,000!
I've transfered $750 back out. Basically, I have locked in $15 of profit, lol. The remaining $250 will be used for the rest of the season or until I get bored or broke. No matter what, I've got a winning season under my belt now. It almost was catestrophic though. My inability to pick TEs, Ks, and Ds almost got me yet again. I'm pretty much going to spend for Graham from here on out. No more getting cute on that.
Welp, I didn't. I couldn't stand having lost money at this.
I started initially with $100. I had lost most of that so I had added another $100, and I had built that up to about $600 which I then lost all at once thanks to Jordan Reed's headache.
So, spur of the moment, I decided to deposit $535 and enter a $535 head to head contest for $1000.
There weren't a lot of opponent options as that price level, so I ended up facing off against "ehafner", a guy with 17,000 total wins and over 1,400 NFL wins.
My tight end, kicker, and defense ended up scoring a COMBINED 5 points. Laderius Green, Dan Bailey, and the Patriots.
Fortunately, as usual, I'm really good at filling out the rest of my roster. I scored 141 points and won by about 15 points.
Hello $1,000!I've transfered $750 back out. Basically, I have locked in $15 of profit, lol. The remaining $250 will be used for the rest of the season or until I get bored or broke. No matter what, I've got a winning season under my belt now. It almost was catestrophic though. My inability to pick TEs, Ks, and Ds almost got me yet again. I'm pretty much going to spend for Graham from here on out. No more getting cute on that.
That's a terrific idea that somebody should have thought of a long time ago, but better late than never.ajm27501 said:
It gives you the variance-reduction multiple head-to-heads with the ease of entry and large field of a 50/50. ("Large field" meaning you don't end up playing only against condia and jigandreel.) Best of both worlds.
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Find a new hobbySo, last week, after going from roughly $600 to $9, I vowwed to quit.
Welp, I didn't. I couldn't stand having lost money at this.
I started initially with $100. I had lost most of that so I had added another $100, and I had built that up to about $600 which I then lost all at once thanks to Jordan Reed's headache.
So, spur of the moment, I decided to deposit $535 and enter a $535 head to head contest for $1000.
There weren't a lot of opponent options as that price level, so I ended up facing off against "ehafner", a guy with 17,000 total wins and over 1,400 NFL wins.
My tight end, kicker, and defense ended up scoring a COMBINED 5 points. Laderius Green, Dan Bailey, and the Patriots.
Fortunately, as usual, I'm really good at filling out the rest of my roster. I scored 141 points and won by about 15 points.
I've transfered $750 back out. Basically, I have locked in $15 of profit, lol. The remaining $250 will be used for the rest of the season or until I get bored or broke. No matter what, I've got a winning season under my belt now. It almost was catestrophic though. My inability to pick TEs, Ks, and Ds almost got me yet again. I'm pretty much going to spend for Graham from here on out. No more getting cute on that.
karmarooster
Footballguy
What's the advantage of a 20 person matrix as opposed to a 20 person 50/50? I guess the gradations of winnings rather than on/off winnings in the 50/50...
That would mean the matrix is better for the top portion of the 10 winners if they were in 50/50, but less ideal for those who barely squeak into 8th-10th place in the 50/50 but get the full winnings.
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In a $10 50/50, you either win $8 or you lose $10. It's all or nothing, which is high variance.
With a matrix, you're unlikely to win $8 or lose $10. You're much more likely to win $2 or whatever. It's lower variance.
That's good for winning players because it means they can wager a larger amount (and therefore get a higher expected profit) for any given risk of going broke.
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karmarooster
Footballguy
Ok, that's sort of what I was thinking but hadn't linked the idea to increased wagers.
However, if you look at the Matrix payouts (e.g. $10, 20 player matrix), the 10th spot actually "wins" 9.90. 11th wins 10.80 (so, 80 cents on 10 dollars, yay). ONLY 1st out of 20 people gets the full $18 payout that the top 10 players would've gotten in the 50/50.
I don't think this format is good for winning players -- i think instead, it's really good for losing players. Instead of entering a 50/50 and losing all your money, you just lose half of it. Example - Joe enters $10 matrix, places 15th/20, and 'wins' $5.40. So, next week he still has $5.40 to wager.
The real winner in this game type is Fanduel... the structure accomplishes their goal of more-slowly draining the losing players such that they can continue to take the rake off them for more weeks. What they really don't want is all the winning players quickly bankrupting the losing players, forcing them out, and losing out on future rake.
So my conclusion is to stay away from these Matrices.
However, if you look at the Matrix payouts (e.g. $10, 20 player matrix), the 10th spot actually "wins" 9.90. 11th wins 10.80 (so, 80 cents on 10 dollars, yay). ONLY 1st out of 20 people gets the full $18 payout that the top 10 players would've gotten in the 50/50.
I don't think this format is good for winning players -- i think instead, it's really good for losing players. Instead of entering a 50/50 and losing all your money, you just lose half of it. Example - Joe enters $10 matrix, places 15th/20, and 'wins' $5.40. So, next week he still has $5.40 to wager.
The real winner in this game type is Fanduel... the structure accomplishes their goal of more-slowly draining the losing players such that they can continue to take the rake off them for more weeks. What they really don't want is all the winning players quickly bankrupting the losing players, forcing them out, and losing out on future rake.
So my conclusion is to stay away from these Matrices.
karmarooster
Footballguy
Scratch this... the matrix is better off for 11th through 20th finishers, equal for 1st place, and worse for 2nd through 10th - as compared to the $10, 20 person 50/50.
JShare87
Footballguy
I would love to but I usually play in the bigger tournaments and I think he will be heavily owned. Cousins can play and it's a good system for him going against a bad defense. I think he will be owned in about 20-30% in some tournaments.
karmarooster
Footballguy
Just came in here to post the same question...
Cousins for 5100 @ ATL, or
Flynn for 5300 @ DAL?
Both pretty suspect defenses, both attractive prices. But with Flynn you have the "0.9 points game" downside to consider, and with Cousins there's the whole dumpster fire of a team aspect. They could really quit on Shanny.
Cousins for 5100 @ ATL, or
Flynn for 5300 @ DAL?
Both pretty suspect defenses, both attractive prices. But with Flynn you have the "0.9 points game" downside to consider, and with Cousins there's the whole dumpster fire of a team aspect. They could really quit on Shanny.
snellman
Footballguy
Will probably kick myself on Monday, but I am considering going fairly heavily on him this weekend. There are not a lot of cheap options at QB (been burned by Flynn and Keenum multiple times) Cassel is a decent option, but we don't know if he will play, McCown is a great option of course, but for Thurs contests especially not knowing if it is him or Cutler is a huge question mark.
Going cheap at QB really opens up options at other positions so with the risk of kicking myself Monday I think I will play him heavily especially in the Thurs start games.
Going cheap at QB really opens up options at other positions so with the risk of kicking myself Monday I think I will play him heavily especially in the Thurs start games.
snellman
Footballguy
Kirk Cousins is crazy good value.
(HULK)
(Smash)
I doubt he'll be that heavily owned in anything that starts Thursday. Too much uncertainity.
(HULK)
(Smash)
If he puts up a 24 point day, you got sick fantasy points per dollar. And thats not that unrealistic of an outcome.
You also could have him locked in your lineup Thursday only to have Shanny fired on Friday and Griffin starting.
karmarooster
Footballguy
Plus Manning and Rivers are available Thursday. I'll roll with them mostly in my Thursday games and save the value plays for Sunday.
snellman
Footballguy
If that happens, it will be about the same amount of points that Flynn and Keenum have given me when I have played them.
timmeresque
Footballguy
Anyone have fanduel applets for mac? could get the others to work.
ebsteelers
Footballguy
does anyone here do daily fantasy basketball?
looks like i am going to have to take the winter off after football season is over.
i do alright in the weekly fantasy football games, but i get frigging smoked nightly in the nba... friggin brutal... cats are scoring 300+ points, with some random ### dudes and i use a few good players and get skunked.
was hoping to be able to have something to get me occupied until april once football is over but looks like it'll be a good time to chill.
any pointers for hoops?
yes i know i am in the wrong thread but figured since this one is pretty active with guys it might be a good place to start
looks like i am going to have to take the winter off after football season is over.
i do alright in the weekly fantasy football games, but i get frigging smoked nightly in the nba... friggin brutal... cats are scoring 300+ points, with some random ### dudes and i use a few good players and get skunked.
was hoping to be able to have something to get me occupied until april once football is over but looks like it'll be a good time to chill.
any pointers for hoops?
yes i know i am in the wrong thread but figured since this one is pretty active with guys it might be a good place to start
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JShare87
Footballguy
I started playin a little fantasy basketball as well. I don't know much about it but I follow a couple of people on twitter and they seem to know their stuff. I'm not sure if you have twitter but it is an excellent resource to help you with the daily fantasy games.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
If any QB puts up 24 points he's good value. Manning rarely gets projected for 24 fanduel points.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I play a few times a week but it's not very fun. Over half of every 50/50 uses the players that Rotogrinders and TheFakeBasketball tell them to use.
ebsteelers
Footballguy
thanks.. i should invest in a twitter account, any particular guys worth following?
i've heard of a handful for football but not as many for b-ball.
ebsteelers
Footballguy
yeah its what i kind of figured.. and what i noticed as well.. or i get stuck playing against some guy that has a 3000 dollar player go off for 40+ plus points
(HULK)
(Smash)
Sure. But Cousins putting up 24 is the same as Manning putting up 40.
Cousins putting up 24 is completely possible. He's probably 99% going to put up at least 12, which is a decent return on his price. Probably 60% to put up 16, which is a great return on his price.
My question is he worth the $300 you'll save over Flynn? Reed looks to be out again for the game leaving Garcon as the only real pass catcher.
snellman
Footballguy
I am going to throw 2 lineups out there tonight, one going heavy on the Thurs game and 1 fading the Thurs game:
QB Kirk Cousins
WAS @ ATL
RB Shane Vereen
NE @ MIA
RB Danny Woodhead
SD @ DEN
WR Eric Decker
DEN v SD
WR Keenan Allen
SD @ DEN
WR Alshon Jeffery
CHI @ CLE
TE Julius Thomas
DEN v SD
K Matt Prater
DEN v SD
D Seattle Seahawks
SEA @ NYG
QB Kirk Cousins
WAS @ ATL
RB Shane Vereen
NE @ MIA
RB Zac Stacy
STL v NO
WR Julian Edelman
NE @ MIA
WR Josh Gordon
CLE v CHI
WR Alshon Jeffery
CHI @ CLE
TE Julius Thomas
DEN v SD
K Alex Henery
PHI @ MIN
D Seattle Seahawks
SEA @ NYG
I couldn't resist putting Thomas in my fade line-up, the value and matchup just looks to juicy to me. I also wanted to get Rivers or Manning in the Thurs lineup, but couldn't squeeze enough money out of the rest of my line-up to afford them so we will see how it goes.
QB Kirk Cousins
WAS @ ATL
RB Shane Vereen
NE @ MIA
RB Danny Woodhead
SD @ DEN
WR Eric Decker
DEN v SD
WR Keenan Allen
SD @ DEN
WR Alshon Jeffery
CHI @ CLE
TE Julius Thomas
DEN v SD
K Matt Prater
DEN v SD
D Seattle Seahawks
SEA @ NYG
QB Kirk Cousins
WAS @ ATL
RB Shane Vereen
NE @ MIA
RB Zac Stacy
STL v NO
WR Julian Edelman
NE @ MIA
WR Josh Gordon
CLE v CHI
WR Alshon Jeffery
CHI @ CLE
TE Julius Thomas
DEN v SD
K Alex Henery
PHI @ MIN
D Seattle Seahawks
SEA @ NYG
I couldn't resist putting Thomas in my fade line-up, the value and matchup just looks to juicy to me. I also wanted to get Rivers or Manning in the Thurs lineup, but couldn't squeeze enough money out of the rest of my line-up to afford them so we will see how it goes.
This is an astute observation. And to me means that if you assume Garcon will receive a high % of Cousins' totals then he is the play.
Look elsewhere for a qb if you want more than 12 points
ebsteelers
Footballguy
well depends on who that extra 300 dollars is allowing you to get..
personally i'd prefer cousins over flynn especially after watching flynn vs. the lions a few weeks back but thats just me
Personally I don't think Flynn or Cousins are good values. There is a decent chance they both do nothing (<13 points). Part of this has to do with not liking the top rbs this week though so I have extra $ to spend on qbs
I'm seeing value this week in a couple the ~$7,500 qbs
EDIT: The above is strategy specific to 50/50s. I would consider Flynn and Cousins more in tournaments with a large field
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snellman
Footballguy
I agree to a point. If I get word that Cutler is not playing, I will probably be going heavy on McCown again, but that is as much risk on a Thurs start as playing Cousins. I may consider throwing Ryan out there also, but I don't see a lot of value in the other QBs in the cheaper range than I can get for Cousins and save 2K in the process that I can put towards other positions.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Sure, anything is possible. But it's not very probable. 24 points is 300 yards, 3 TDs and 0 turnovers.
Yes, I agree he's great value though.
What do you think about Ryan against Washington or Flacco against Detroit? Both are vulnerable pass defenses that are also decently stout against the run.
snellman
Footballguy
I am considering Putting Ryan in a few if McCown is not playing although I am still not sold on him even against Washington. He is playing at home so that helps. I have no desire to play Flacco at all.
