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Ok, I will admit there are some rough patches in the late 60s as the transition from old to new Hollywood wasn't smooth but it seems more like a slow transition than anything really exploding on the scene in 75. Maybe I will think otherwise after we go through this process.
I had NO idea about any of that. Thank you so much for posting... makes me
it even more.
Dude.I think this is the first time I have seen a movie recommended on here that I would even consider watching that I hadn't seen before.
Peter Biskind's "Easy Riders, Raging Bulls" is an excellent book about the transition from old to new Hollywood.
yes.
Lords of Flatbush - hell yes
Reading the wikipedia page for this, they have an interesting anecdote about how Richard Gere was initially the guy playing Perry King's role, but he and Stalone couldn't get along so Gere got the boot for King.Lords of Flatbush - hell yes
interestingly enough, flick was pushed as a star making vehicle for Perry King, but his two co-stars, Stallone and Winkler, became (arguably) the biggest icons in film and TV (respectfully) within a couple years, with the Rocky and Fonzie characters.
Freebie and the Bean hasn't aged well IMO. The cop/buddy/action/comedy hybrid has been done so much better over the years.
think you can skip the first two. i really wanted tLoF to be something, but (sry, otb) it wasnt. H&T was a nice movie, but it registered with people mostly because Art Carney was as good at driving a movie (see The Late Show too, tho Lily Tomlin plays the worst hippie in creation) as we all knew he could be and wanted him to have that chance a LOT earlier than he did.
i'm guessing no. there are just some of us whose mental constructs make us immune to slash. couple "hmmmm"s, couple more "ugh"s, i'm guessin. that's it
Oh, I've seen that version multiple times. Pretty much every time I had to read the Great Gatsby in the various Lit classes I had through my academic career the teacher/professor would "treat" us to a viewing as well. I marveled at how the director managed to get uniformly dull performances from every single actor in the film.
If we're talking about the 1974 version, I thought Sam Waterston was a good Nick Carraway
He was, but it was still a relatively flat emotional read in a sea of flat emotional reads. It all felt over stylized to the point of it being a sequence of set pieces played out by automatons. I get that Fitzgerald was commenting on the lack of humanity he found in that time in place, but without some actual humans involved there is nothing to contrast against the lack of humanity.
it all turns on Nick. I do outlines on pretty much everything i'd like to see done or done better and i have a lot of additional scenes of Nick on the train commute to better establish the glamour & silliness of the maelstrom around Gatsby
Baz Luhrman's Gatsby notwithstanding, I think there's a tendency towards conservatism when filming classic novels.
It's a pretty short list of real classic lit that also has a real great film version:
Just rewatched it. Oy. It's not that bad, but mental health movies are like Gatsby - if one aint done right, it's gonna be a while before there's another chance. And the mental health is just soooo actorly in AWUTI
The whole subset of mental health movies tends to be awful. I think Spellbound is about the worst Hitch film there is.
Confession time.
Great Expectations, Brighton Rock, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Unbearable Lightness of Being
Good call on TKaM and I haven't seen Lean's GE. The adaptation of Brighton Rock and tULoB were good but I wouldn't put them in any kind of great movie cannon.
see, but it's sooooo damn much more than "slash" - hell, the killing is probably the least terrifying aspect of the flick ... there's at least a finite push to the body count, whereas the abstract terror (van scene with ChopTop/the dining room scene with "the family" and Sally/Kirk and Jerry stumbling around the Sawyer sprawl/Pam being engulfed in the macabre parlour melange/Sally being ###### with by cook in the gas station/etc) all convey such a claustrophobic and visceral vibe - i mean, ####, it's like death would be a welcome respite from the horror portrayed ...in that respect the flick absolutely kills it.
I think Of Mice and Men was well done by Gary Sinise (who directed, produced, and starred in it along with John Malkovich).
The recent remake of Brighton Rock is really terrible. Sam Riley played Pinky. He also played Sal Paradise in the equally wretched version of On the Road.
Speaking of TV adaptations of novels, in 1974 a TV movie based on the book The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman came out, and it was great, and so was Cicely Tyson as Jane Pittman.
maybe there werent enough monsters under my bed, but i am immune to the act of watching a movie in order to feel terror. even that is badly put, but i dont know how else to express it. i'm the same with action pix. you can get me with either if it takes me by surprise but, if i go in with an expectation i almost never end up going along. just a thang
The early 70s were a golden age of made for TV movies. QB VII was another 1974 non-theatrical release that was very good.
same way for me ... i rarely, if ever, poke in the sci fi/fantasy/smashemup actionexolosion genres ...gimme straight up storytelling ... and my past two #1s in these polls (The Thing/TCM) both told incredible stories, redifining niche storytelling, and obliterating genre constraints - "NoTLD" will most likely be my #1 for '68 if we get there - again, revolutionary in it's message and construct.
