For those that voted for Obama - how do you feel (2 Viewers)

[Godsbrother]

Sober as a judge. Not hard to figure out. When I use its a lot of work. Costs me about $100 a day. I don't have time to embarrass liberals in here.

On another not those "happy" with their vote should be lobotomized. You're a danger to your wife and kids and more importantly my country.

Care to unpack that one little sentence? What's a lot of work? Typing? Insulting people? Projecting bravado to cover-up some type of emptiness or inadequacy issues you're feeling inside?

Am I happy with the current state of the country? No. Do I like everything Obama's done while in office? No. Do I blame Obama for a lot of the stuff that's happened (or hasn't happened) the past five years? No. I blame all the sheep/lemmings on BOTH sides of the aisle, all the millions of partisan hacks and/or the people who were lobotomized after Clinton couldn't remember what the definition of 'is' is. Dividing our nation in two. And would I change my votes for POTUS in 2008 or 2012? No.

Liberals *AND* Conservatives are destroying our nation. Only those folks on the poles can't see the planks in their own eyes...all they can see (and talk about) are the specks on the other side of the aisle. Moderates/Independents are the only people with a friggin' clue, and any hope of saving this country. Everything else is just But you can't see that either. Imagine my surprise.

I'll say it once again: read my posts, try to comprehend them, don't skim them, then reply. I have never once in any of my posts defended our typical conservatives or the GOP candidates or any other mainstream conservative...except the Great Dr. Savage.

It's odd to me that you single out the Obama voters. If this weren't some sort of rant by you and you were being intellectually honest, you'd have included any voter who's voted for any of the problem children in office today, regardless of them being Dem or Repub. Just an observation.

 

[Finless]

Sober as a judge. Not hard to figure out. When I use its a lot of work. Costs me about $100 a day. I don't have time to embarrass liberals in here.

On another not those "happy" with their vote should be lobotomized. You're a danger to your wife and kids and more importantly my country.

Care to unpack that one little sentence? What's a lot of work? Typing? Insulting people? Projecting bravado to cover-up some type of emptiness or inadequacy issues you're feeling inside?

Am I happy with the current state of the country? No. Do I like everything Obama's done while in office? No. Do I blame Obama for a lot of the stuff that's happened (or hasn't happened) the past five years? No. I blame all the sheep/lemmings on BOTH sides of the aisle, all the millions of partisan hacks and/or the people who were lobotomized after Clinton couldn't remember what the definition of 'is' is. Dividing our nation in two. And would I change my votes for POTUS in 2008 or 2012? No.

Liberals *AND* Conservatives are destroying our nation. Only those folks on the poles can't see the planks in their own eyes...all they can see (and talk about) are the specks on the other side of the aisle. Moderates/Independents are the only people with a friggin' clue, and any hope of saving this country. Everything else is just But you can't see that either. Imagine my surprise.

I'll say it once again: read my posts, try to comprehend them, don't skim them, then reply. I have never once in any of my posts defended our typical conservatives or the GOP candidates or any other mainstream conservative...except the Great Dr. Savage.

It's odd to me that you single out the Obama voters. If this weren't some sort of rant by you and you were being intellectually honest, you'd have included any voter who's voted for any of the problem children in office today, regardless of them being Dem or Repub. Just an observation.

You really don't see the difference? one again (last time I'll say it) with Bush we knew what was coming. He's a conservative. His daddy sent us to war, he's a born again, he had a war profiteer as his running mate. I expected what was coming. I don't think too many folks were shocked by his actions. Obama voters were flying signs and posters reminiscent of historical fascists totalitarians as if somehow this man was going to make ideological socialism work and they were alright with that. Seriously you ####### people are among the most ignorant of any generation if you are saying "yeah I got what I paid for". He is the antithesis of what he projected. I'm about done banging my head against this wall. You people are truly mentally ill.

There is no defense. Nut up like some of the folks already have in here and admit what you did. You allowed yourself to be fooled by a slimy serpent. I get it, its good yonder change. A black man in the white house was a progressive move. I'm okay with that (although I still believe a woman has no place in a voting booth). But the people crying in the streets and signing and dancing and talking about a new age where the social issues would finally be more important stateside than the alleged issues abroad we always seemed to worry about. The ones that ended up with us carpet bombing small sovereign nations that had their own way of life. That would all end. We would focus on US. Education would become paramount. Unemployment would drop. Tons of programs would be put into place to help the impoverished and undereducated rise up. Transparency would be paramount. We would work together as a government not against each other...this is supposed to be about the people..The Golden age of equality is finally upon us and we will all prosper while a cloud of pot smoke hovers overhead.

Well at least we got herb and the Obamaphone. Been at war since day one. Heading into another one. People are out of work worse than ever. And yes the markets are going to suffer, big time. I'll wager anyone on that.

Admit what you did. I didn't ask about the alternative. The lesser of two evils. I told you to admit you voted for the worst kind of politician, a silver tongued serpent.

 

[timschochet]

Here's the link, Finless. I really don't care, but you keep asking for it, so here it is:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=568283&page=38#entry15872967

Oh, and by the way, the reason I didn't respond to this thread is because I didn't vote for Obama either time.

 

[NCCommish]

Sober as a judge. Not hard to figure out. When I use its a lot of work. Costs me about $100 a day. I don't have time to embarrass liberals in here.

On another not those "happy" with their vote should be lobotomized. You're a danger to your wife and kids and more importantly my country.

Care to unpack that one little sentence? What's a lot of work? Typing? Insulting people? Projecting bravado to cover-up some type of emptiness or inadequacy issues you're feeling inside?

Am I happy with the current state of the country? No. Do I like everything Obama's done while in office? No. Do I blame Obama for a lot of the stuff that's happened (or hasn't happened) the past five years? No. I blame all the sheep/lemmings on BOTH sides of the aisle, all the millions of partisan hacks and/or the people who were lobotomized after Clinton couldn't remember what the definition of 'is' is. Dividing our nation in two. And would I change my votes for POTUS in 2008 or 2012? No.

Liberals *AND* Conservatives are destroying our nation. Only those folks on the poles can't see the planks in their own eyes...all they can see (and talk about) are the specks on the other side of the aisle. Moderates/Independents are the only people with a friggin' clue, and any hope of saving this country. Everything else is just But you can't see that either. Imagine my surprise.

I'll say it once again: read my posts, try to comprehend them, don't skim them, then reply. I have never once in any of my posts defended our typical conservatives or the GOP candidates or any other mainstream conservative...except the Great Dr. Savage.

It's odd to me that you single out the Obama voters. If this weren't some sort of rant by you and you were being intellectually honest, you'd have included any voter who's voted for any of the problem children in office today, regardless of them being Dem or Repub. Just an observation.

You really don't see the difference? one again (last time I'll say it) with Bush we knew what was coming. He's a conservative. His daddy sent us to war, he's a born again, he had a war profiteer as his running mate. I expected what was coming. I don't think too many folks were shocked by his actions. Obama voters were flying signs and posters reminiscent of historical fascists totalitarians as if somehow this man was going to make ideological socialism work and they were alright with that. Seriously you ####### people are among the most ignorant of any generation if you are saying "yeah I got what I paid for". He is the antithesis of what he projected. I'm about done banging my head against this wall. You people are truly mentally ill.

There is no defense. Nut up like some of the folks already have in here and admit what you did. You allowed yourself to be fooled by a slimy serpent. I get it, its good yonder change. A black man in the white house was a progressive move. I'm okay with that (although I still believe a woman has no place in a voting booth). But the people crying in the streets and signing and dancing and talking about a new age where the social issues would finally be more important stateside than the alleged issues abroad we always seemed to worry about. The ones that ended up with us carpet bombing small sovereign nations that had their own way of life. That would all end. We would focus on US. Education would become paramount. Unemployment would drop. Tons of programs would be put into place to help the impoverished and undereducated rise up. Transparency would be paramount. We would work together as a government not against each other...this is supposed to be about the people..The Golden age of equality is finally upon us and we will all prosper while a cloud of pot smoke hovers overhead.

Well at least we got herb and the Obamaphone. Been at war since day one. Heading into another one. People are out of work worse than ever. And yes the markets are going to suffer, big time. I'll wager anyone on that.

Admit what you did. I didn't ask about the alternative. The lesser of two evils. I told you to admit you voted for the worst kind of politician, a silver tongued serpent.

So are there any bull#### memes you have missed in this fishing trip? You do know for example the whole phone thing was expanded under W and was started decades ago right? Oh hell you don't care about facts you just want to stir #### up. Have fun with that.

 

[The Commish]

Sober as a judge. Not hard to figure out. When I use its a lot of work. Costs me about $100 a day. I don't have time to embarrass liberals in here.

On another not those "happy" with their vote should be lobotomized. You're a danger to your wife and kids and more importantly my country.

Care to unpack that one little sentence? What's a lot of work? Typing? Insulting people? Projecting bravado to cover-up some type of emptiness or inadequacy issues you're feeling inside?

Am I happy with the current state of the country? No. Do I like everything Obama's done while in office? No. Do I blame Obama for a lot of the stuff that's happened (or hasn't happened) the past five years? No. I blame all the sheep/lemmings on BOTH sides of the aisle, all the millions of partisan hacks and/or the people who were lobotomized after Clinton couldn't remember what the definition of 'is' is. Dividing our nation in two. And would I change my votes for POTUS in 2008 or 2012? No.

Liberals *AND* Conservatives are destroying our nation. Only those folks on the poles can't see the planks in their own eyes...all they can see (and talk about) are the specks on the other side of the aisle. Moderates/Independents are the only people with a friggin' clue, and any hope of saving this country. Everything else is just But you can't see that either. Imagine my surprise.

I'll say it once again: read my posts, try to comprehend them, don't skim them, then reply. I have never once in any of my posts defended our typical conservatives or the GOP candidates or any other mainstream conservative...except the Great Dr. Savage.

It's odd to me that you single out the Obama voters. If this weren't some sort of rant by you and you were being intellectually honest, you'd have included any voter who's voted for any of the problem children in office today, regardless of them being Dem or Repub. Just an observation.

You really don't see the difference? one again (last time I'll say it) with Bush we knew what was coming. He's a conservative. His daddy sent us to war, he's a born again, he had a war profiteer as his running mate. I expected what was coming. I don't think too many folks were shocked by his actions. Obama voters were flying signs and posters reminiscent of historical fascists totalitarians as if somehow this man was going to make ideological socialism work and they were alright with that. Seriously you ####### people are among the most ignorant of any generation if you are saying "yeah I got what I paid for". He is the antithesis of what he projected. I'm about done banging my head against this wall. You people are truly mentally ill.

There is no defense. Nut up like some of the folks already have in here and admit what you did. You allowed yourself to be fooled by a slimy serpent. I get it, its good yonder change. A black man in the white house was a progressive move. I'm okay with that (although I still believe a woman has no place in a voting booth). But the people crying in the streets and signing and dancing and talking about a new age where the social issues would finally be more important stateside than the alleged issues abroad we always seemed to worry about. The ones that ended up with us carpet bombing small sovereign nations that had their own way of life. That would all end. We would focus on US. Education would become paramount. Unemployment would drop. Tons of programs would be put into place to help the impoverished and undereducated rise up. Transparency would be paramount. We would work together as a government not against each other...this is supposed to be about the people..The Golden age of equality is finally upon us and we will all prosper while a cloud of pot smoke hovers overhead.

Well at least we got herb and the Obamaphone. Been at war since day one. Heading into another one. People are out of work worse than ever. And yes the markets are going to suffer, big time. I'll wager anyone on that.

Admit what you did. I didn't ask about the alternative. The lesser of two evils. I told you to admit you voted for the worst kind of politician, a silver tongued serpent.

If you didn't know what was coming with Obama, I can't help you. I saw very little difference between Obama or Bush....it's why I didn't vote for either of them....keep pounding that drum though

 

[timschochet]

While I didn't vote for Obama, and would have preferred a centrist Republican over a centrist Democrat, Obama's been fine. I don't get those who think he's been a disaster. I'm not in love with Obamacare, but it's not catastrophic either. Obama's been OK.

Plus, the bizarre and irrational behavior of Obama's opponents, especially in the House of Representatives, makes it hard not to root for Obama at times.

 

[Finless]

If my posts are too "wordy" or long go to another thread. Either read what I wrote, all of it or move on. I'm tired of reading responses to what I've written that really has nothing to do with my views or point. This is becoming a debate so read the response and respond accordingly.

Bush, Romney, conservatives - blah ####### blah - same bull####. Avoid everything that is actually being said and either A) Name call B) Bring up my past drug problem C) answer questions no one asked or make statements that do not matter.

I have basically stated that those who voted for Obama and are happy with the vote and believe they got what they were looking for are either lying, delusional or are happy getting the crumbs that fall off the table. I have seen maybe 3-4 posters say anything intelligent in the way of defending him. I think 80% of it is bull#### but I appreciate you understand the issues at hand. I still have no idea how someone could be even okay with the way things are shaking out, let alone being HAPPY. ARE YOU ####### KIDDING ME?

Some of you are probably better off discussing the concepts behind drafting a sleeper TE in the 11 and how we're back to stud running back theory. Seriously.....

 

[timschochet]

Also want to add: the most trite, boring, and absurd meme repeated endlessly by politicos in this forum is that there are no substantive differences between the Republican and Democrat candidates for President.

 

[dozer]

Obama won because so many republicans couldn't get their medicare funded Hoverounds into the voting booths.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Well, this is all a lot of fishing, but Finless's primary criticism seems directed at the people that thought Obama was going to magically make all our problems go away. I don't think that group made up the bulk of Obama voters. Most of us just thought he would be better than the alternatives.

 

[The Commish]

Well, this is all a lot of fishing, but Finless's primary criticism seems directed at the people that thought Obama was going to magically make all our problems go away. I don't think that group made up the bulk of Obama voters. Most of us just thought he would be better than the alternatives.

They certainly are few and far between around here....hardly enough to be thread worthy, but it's entertaining so I say let him go. Maybe it's therapeutic as well...who knows??

 

[Finless]

Sober as a judge. Not hard to figure out. When I use its a lot of work. Costs me about $100 a day. I don't have time to embarrass liberals in here.

On another not those "happy" with their vote should be lobotomized. You're a danger to your wife and kids and more importantly my country.

Care to unpack that one little sentence? What's a lot of work? Typing? Insulting people? Projecting bravado to cover-up some type of emptiness or inadequacy issues you're feeling inside?

Am I happy with the current state of the country? No. Do I like everything Obama's done while in office? No. Do I blame Obama for a lot of the stuff that's happened (or hasn't happened) the past five years? No. I blame all the sheep/lemmings on BOTH sides of the aisle, all the millions of partisan hacks and/or the people who were lobotomized after Clinton couldn't remember what the definition of 'is' is. Dividing our nation in two. And would I change my votes for POTUS in 2008 or 2012? No.

Liberals *AND* Conservatives are destroying our nation. Only those folks on the poles can't see the planks in their own eyes...all they can see (and talk about) are the specks on the other side of the aisle. Moderates/Independents are the only people with a friggin' clue, and any hope of saving this country. Everything else is just But you can't see that either. Imagine my surprise.

I'll say it once again: read my posts, try to comprehend them, don't skim them, then reply. I have never once in any of my posts defended our typical conservatives or the GOP candidates or any other mainstream conservative...except the Great Dr. Savage.

It's odd to me that you single out the Obama voters. If this weren't some sort of rant by you and you were being intellectually honest, you'd have included any voter who's voted for any of the problem children in office today, regardless of them being Dem or Repub. Just an observation.

You really don't see the difference? one again (last time I'll say it) with Bush we knew what was coming. He's a conservative. His daddy sent us to war, he's a born again, he had a war profiteer as his running mate. I expected what was coming. I don't think too many folks were shocked by his actions. Obama voters were flying signs and posters reminiscent of historical fascists totalitarians as if somehow this man was going to make ideological socialism work and they were alright with that. Seriously you ####### people are among the most ignorant of any generation if you are saying "yeah I got what I paid for". He is the antithesis of what he projected. I'm about done banging my head against this wall. You people are truly mentally ill.There is no defense. Nut up like some of the folks already have in here and admit what you did. You allowed yourself to be fooled by a slimy serpent. I get it, its good yonder change. A black man in the white house was a progressive move. I'm okay with that (although I still believe a woman has no place in a voting booth). But the people crying in the streets and signing and dancing and talking about a new age where the social issues would finally be more important stateside than the alleged issues abroad we always seemed to worry about. The ones that ended up with us carpet bombing small sovereign nations that had their own way of life. That would all end. We would focus on US. Education would become paramount. Unemployment would drop. Tons of programs would be put into place to help the impoverished and undereducated rise up. Transparency would be paramount. We would work together as a government not against each other...this is supposed to be about the people..The Golden age of equality is finally upon us and we will all prosper while a cloud of pot smoke hovers overhead.

Well at least we got herb and the Obamaphone. Been at war since day one. Heading into another one. People are out of work worse than ever. And yes the markets are going to suffer, big time. I'll wager anyone on that.

Admit what you did. I didn't ask about the alternative. The lesser of two evils. I told you to admit you voted for the worst kind of politician, a silver tongued serpent.

If you didn't know what was coming with Obama, I can't help you. I saw very little difference between Obama or Bush....it's why I didn't vote for either of them....keep pounding that drum though

NCC,I don't care when the phone thing started. I'll tell you what when you got food stamps under Bush there weren't people set up with tables giving away phone with free airtime. If you want to give the Obama phone to Bush so be it.

And Commish you're a dinosaur around here. Link to a post ANY post pre-obama where you say anything close to "there's really no difference between Obama and Bush". I can link to probably 1000 sharing many of the same sentiments I'm sharing here. That's the difference. I'm not playing Wednesday morning political analyst here. Same as day 1.

And NCC you're a smart dude but I'm definitely not impressed with your defense. You know how I roll. I'm not fishing in here at all. I don't have time to fish. There too much #### I am opinionated about to waste my time with fiction. My points are valid. It hurts but its the truth.

 

[badmojo1006]

Well, this is all a lot of fishing, but Finless's primary criticism seems directed at the people that thought Obama was going to magically make all our problems go away. I don't think that group made up the bulk of Obama voters. Most of us just thought he would be better than the alternatives.

I will agree with this. This would have been a decent thread without Finless "spittle at the corner of his mouth" rants

 

[badmojo1006]

Here's the link, Finless. I really don't care, but you keep asking for it, so here it is:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=568283&page=38#entry15872967

Oh, and by the way, the reason I didn't respond to this thread is because I didn't vote for Obama either time.

Did Finless welch on the bet?

 

[pantagrapher]

I feel great.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Here's the link, Finless. I really don't care, but you keep asking for it, so here it is:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=568283&page=38#entry15872967

Oh, and by the way, the reason I didn't respond to this thread is because I didn't vote for Obama either time.

 

[The Commish]

And Commish you're a dinosaur around here. Link to a post ANY post pre-obama where you say anything close to "there's really no difference between Obama and Bush". I can link to probably 1000 sharing many of the same sentiments I'm sharing here. That's the difference. I'm not playing Wednesday morning political analyst here. Same as day 1.

I'd love to respond, but I have no idea what you're saying. Feel free to go back and look through the election threads if you like? My comments are there for all to see

 

[Finless]

Well, this is all a lot of fishing, but Finless's primary criticism seems directed at the people that thought Obama was going to magically make all our problems go away. I don't think that group made up the bulk of Obama voters. Most of us just thought he would be better than the alternatives.

:goosposting: sort of. If you begrudgingly strolled into the booth thinking to yourself both these guys suck, maybe this thread isn't for you. I also don't think its just for the people who thought he'd make all our problems go away either. I mean honestly if that was your belief you already had brain damage. But to say I got what I was looking for or I'm very happy with my vote is ludicrous.

I could understand "I didn't vote, never liked Obama but I think he's doing ok"...maybe. But there is no legitimate defense for his complete failure to make right on any of the planks that constructed his platform

 

[dozer]

I don't have time to fish.

 

[roadkill1292]

There's nobody stupider than somebody who thinks he knows the "truth."

 

[TobiasFunke]

I don't have time to fish.

Too busy welching on bets.

 

[The Commish]

Well, this is all a lot of fishing, but Finless's primary criticism seems directed at the people that thought Obama was going to magically make all our problems go away. I don't think that group made up the bulk of Obama voters. Most of us just thought he would be better than the alternatives.

:goosposting: sort of. If you begrudgingly strolled into the booth thinking to yourself both these guys suck, maybe this thread isn't for you. I also don't think its just for the people who thought he'd make all our problems go away either. I mean honestly if that was your belief you already had brain damage. But to say I got what I was looking for or I'm very happy with my vote is ludicrous.

I could understand "I didn't vote, never liked Obama but I think he's doing ok"...maybe. But there is no legitimate defense for his complete failure to make right on any of the planks that constructed his platform

You mean like continuing to pursue Bin Laden, healthcare and leaving Iraq? There's a lot he promised and didn't deliver on but it's plain dumb to suggest he didn't do ANYTHING he said he was going to do.

 

[cosjobs]

If my posts are too "wordy" or long go to another thread. Either read what I wrote, all of it or move on. I'm tired of reading responses to what I've written that really has nothing to do with my views or point. This is becoming a debate so read the response and respond accordingly.

Bush, Romney, conservatives - blah ####### blah - same bull####. Avoid everything that is actually being said and either A) Name call B) Bring up my past drug problem C) answer questions no one asked or make statements that do not matter.

I have basically stated that those who voted for Obama and are happy with the vote and believe they got what they were looking for are either lying, delusional or are happy getting the crumbs that fall off the table. I have seen maybe 3-4 posters say anything intelligent in the way of defending him. I think 80% of it is bull#### but I appreciate you understand the issues at hand. I still have no idea how someone could be even okay with the way things are shaking out, let alone being HAPPY. ARE YOU ####### KIDDING ME?

Some of you are probably better off discussing the concepts behind drafting a sleeper TE in the 11 and how we're back to stud running back theory. Seriously.....

tl; dr

 

[TheIronSheik]

If my posts are too "wordy" or long go to another thread. Either read what I wrote, all of it or move on. I'm tired of reading responses to what I've written that really has nothing to do with my views or point. This is becoming a debate so read the response and respond accordingly.

Bush, Romney, conservatives - blah ####### blah - same bull####. Avoid everything that is actually being said and either A) Name call B) Bring up my past drug problem C) answer questions no one asked or make statements that do not matter.

I have basically stated that those who voted for Obama and are happy with the vote and believe they got what they were looking for are either lying, delusional or are happy getting the crumbs that fall off the table. I have seen maybe 3-4 posters say anything intelligent in the way of defending him. I think 80% of it is bull#### but I appreciate you understand the issues at hand. I still have no idea how someone could be even okay with the way things are shaking out, let alone being HAPPY. ARE YOU ####### KIDDING ME?

Some of you are probably better off discussing the concepts behind drafting a sleeper TE in the 11 and how we're back to stud running back theory. Seriously.....

tl; dr

 

[Finless]

I'll pay you today if you'll accept a Moneygram payment. PM me if you are interested. I didn't remember that post honestly but judging from me dialing it down from $100 to $50 when that dropped my potential take $500 I'd say I had every intention of keeping my side of the bet.

Call me fake, a fisherman, a shared alias, a broke junky, whatever you all need. Ship me the info and receive $50 in cash today.

 

[Finless]

I'll pay you today if you'll accept a Moneygram payment. PM me if you are interested. I didn't remember that post honestly but judging from me dialing it down from $100 to $50 when that dropped my potential take $500 I'd say I had every intention of keeping my side of the bet.

Call me fake, a fisherman, a shared alias, a broke junky, whatever you all need. Ship me the info and receive $50 in cash today.

 

[timschochet]

I'll pay you today if you'll accept a Moneygram payment. PM me if you are interested. I didn't remember that post honestly but judging from me dialing it down from $100 to $50 when that dropped my potential take $500 I'd say I had every intention of keeping my side of the bet.

Call me fake, a fisherman, a shared alias, a broke junky, whatever you all need. Ship me the info and receive $50 in cash today.

I haven't called you any of those things. You must be thinking of someone else.

Keep your money. It was a dumb wager to begin with.

 

[Finless]

If your prefer a moneyorder we can do that as well. I owe my bank money...lots of it.

 

[Finless]

I'll pay you today if you'll accept a Moneygram payment. PM me if you are interested. I didn't remember that post honestly but judging from me dialing it down from $100 to $50 when that dropped my potential take $500 I'd say I had every intention of keeping my side of the bet.

Call me fake, a fisherman, a shared alias, a broke junky, whatever you all need. Ship me the info and receive $50 in cash today.

I haven't called you any of those things. You must be thinking of someone else.Keep your money. It was a dumb wager to begin with.

It was an emotional wager, the worst kind. I generally never wager on something I don't believe is a lock but I really had hope with Paul so I said #### it. Those accusations I posted were aimed at you whatsoever, that was for the other who would/will no doubt come in here and call me a kinky welcher or whatever other venom they can spit. Maybe tell me to do go overdose with the $50 or buy some flowers for my two dead friends.

Anyhow, I'll send it if you could use it. If not and you'd prefer I'll give $50 to a no-kill dog shelter.

 

[Finless]

I'll pay you today if you'll accept a Moneygram payment. PM me if you are interested. I didn't remember that post honestly but judging from me dialing it down from $100 to $50 when that dropped my potential take $500 I'd say I had every intention of keeping my side of the bet.

Call me fake, a fisherman, a shared alias, a broke junky, whatever you all need. Ship me the info and receive $50 in cash today.

I haven't called you any of those things. You must be thinking of someone else.Keep your money. It was a dumb wager to begin with.

It was an emotional wager, the worst kind. I generally never wager on something I don't believe is a lock but I really had hope with Paul so I said #### it. Those accusations I posted were aimed at you whatsoever, that was for the other who would/will no doubt come in here and call me a kinky welcher or whatever other venom they can spit. Maybe tell me to do go overdose with the $50 or buy some flowers for my two dead friends.

Anyhow, I'll send it if you could use it. If not and you'd prefer I'll give $50 to a no-kill dog shelter.

Meant to type weren't aimed at you.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I'll pay you today if you'll accept a Moneygram payment. PM me if you are interested. I didn't remember that post honestly but judging from me dialing it down from $100 to $50 when that dropped my potential take $500 I'd say I had every intention of keeping my side of the bet.

Call me fake, a fisherman, a shared alias, a broke junky, whatever you all need. Ship me the info and receive $50 in cash today.

I haven't called you any of those things. You must be thinking of someone else.Keep your money. It was a dumb wager to begin with.

It was an emotional wager, the worst kind. I generally never wager on something I don't believe is a lock but I really had hope with Paul so I said #### it. Those accusations I posted were aimed at you whatsoever, that was for the other who would/will no doubt come in here and call me a kinky welcher or whatever other venom they can spit. Maybe tell me to do go overdose with the $50 or buy some flowers for my two dead friends.

Anyhow, I'll send it if you could use it. If not and you'd prefer I'll give $50 to a no-kill dog shelter.

Lame. Pay that man his money.

 

[timschochet]

I'll pay you today if you'll accept a Moneygram payment. PM me if you are interested. I didn't remember that post honestly but judging from me dialing it down from $100 to $50 when that dropped my potential take $500 I'd say I had every intention of keeping my side of the bet.

Call me fake, a fisherman, a shared alias, a broke junky, whatever you all need. Ship me the info and receive $50 in cash today.

I haven't called you any of those things. You must be thinking of someone else.Keep your money. It was a dumb wager to begin with.

It was an emotional wager, the worst kind. I generally never wager on something I don't believe is a lock but I really had hope with Paul so I said #### it. Those accusations I posted were aimed at you whatsoever, that was for the other who would/will no doubt come in here and call me a kinky welcher or whatever other venom they can spit. Maybe tell me to do go overdose with the $50 or buy some flowers for my two dead friends.

Anyhow, I'll send it if you could use it. If not and you'd prefer I'll give $50 to a no-kill dog shelter.

That's fine, I knew you weren't a welcher, You just weren't around, and I chose not to bug you about it because it was a silly bet.

Dr. Gobbler is the only welcher I know in this forum.

 

[Finless]

I'll pay you today if you'll accept a Moneygram payment. PM me if you are interested. I didn't remember that post honestly but judging from me dialing it down from $100 to $50 when that dropped my potential take $500 I'd say I had every intention of keeping my side of the bet.

Call me fake, a fisherman, a shared alias, a broke junky, whatever you all need. Ship me the info and receive $50 in cash today.

I haven't called you any of those things. You must be thinking of someone else.Keep your money. It was a dumb wager to begin with.

It was an emotional wager, the worst kind. I generally never wager on something I don't believe is a lock but I really had hope with Paul so I said #### it. Those accusations I posted were aimed at you whatsoever, that was for the other who would/will no doubt come in here and call me a kinky welcher or whatever other venom they can spit. Maybe tell me to do go overdose with the $50 or buy some flowers for my two dead friends.

Anyhow, I'll send it if you could use it. If not and you'd prefer I'll give $50 to a no-kill dog shelter.

Meant to type weren't aimed at you.

kinky = junky

My money is short right now. Living off $500 a week sales draws til my commissions start to flow but a bet is a bet and I'll pay it. I also have a league fee overdue that I have to pay but I'm out of contention and my team is locked and I'll pay before season ends. I may be a lot of things but a liar and a ####bag dead beat I am not.

 

[timschochet]

But Finless, if your posts about Obama aren't shtick, then they're just weird. Can you provide specific examples of how he has been such a disaster?

 

[Finless]

I'll pay you today if you'll accept a Moneygram payment. PM me if you are interested. I didn't remember that post honestly but judging from me dialing it down from $100 to $50 when that dropped my potential take $500 I'd say I had every intention of keeping my side of the bet.

Call me fake, a fisherman, a shared alias, a broke junky, whatever you all need. Ship me the info and receive $50 in cash today.

I haven't called you any of those things. You must be thinking of someone else.Keep your money. It was a dumb wager to begin with.

It was an emotional wager, the worst kind. I generally never wager on something I don't believe is a lock but I really had hope with Paul so I said #### it. Those accusations I posted were aimed at you whatsoever, that was for the other who would/will no doubt come in here and call me a kinky welcher or whatever other venom they can spit. Maybe tell me to do go overdose with the $50 or buy some flowers for my two dead friends.Anyhow, I'll send it if you could use it. If not and you'd prefer I'll give $50 to a no-kill dog shelter.

Lame. Pay that man his money.

I offered to pay him today. He don't accept, a shelter will. It's a drop in the bucket but this is coming from a guy who went dog over stranger.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Color me delusional then. I was all set to vote McCain until he chose Palin as his running mate and have friends and family who felt the same. As far as 2012 goes, Obama's first term was so bad that any decent, reasonable candidate would have beaten him. The fact that a milquetoast candidate like Mitt Romney gave him a run for his money is proof of that.

Based on performance Obama should have been one and done but the Republicans were unable to come up with a candidate that could beat him. Pretty pathetic showing by the GOP if you ask me.

The bottom line is that neither party has the answers and the blind lemmings that follow them aren't making things better. GWB and Obama were/are both disasters, I don't see how anyone could defend either party but every day you get the same posters throwing rocks at one another and

Okay off my soapbox now...

Well said. My thought has always been that Bush in '04 and Obama in '12 were both totally beatable, but John Kerry and Mitt Romney were the best either party could come up with, so both of those disasters somehow got a 2nd term. Sad. To me, it boggles the mind that anyone could think Obama has done a good job, just like it boggles the mind that some of the right think Bush wasn't that bad (he really was), but that is more of an indicator of how partisan some really are. A hardcore liberal is not admit that his guy has sucked; likewise for hardcore conservatives.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Color me delusional then. I was all set to vote McCain until he chose Palin as his running mate and have friends and family who felt the same. As far as 2012 goes, Obama's first term was so bad that any decent, reasonable candidate would have beaten him. The fact that a milquetoast candidate like Mitt Romney gave him a run for his money is proof of that.

Based on performance Obama should have been one and done but the Republicans were unable to come up with a candidate that could beat him. Pretty pathetic showing by the GOP if you ask me.

The bottom line is that neither party has the answers and the blind lemmings that follow them aren't making things better. GWB and Obama were/are both disasters, I don't see how anyone could defend either party but every day you get the same posters throwing rocks at one another and

Okay off my soapbox now...

Well said. My thought has always been that Bush in '04 and Obama in '12 were both totally beatable, but John Kerry and Mitt Romney were the best either party could come up with, so both of those disasters somehow got a 2nd term. Sad. To me, it boggles the mind that anyone could think Obama has done a good job, just like it boggles the mind that some of the right think Bush wasn't that bad (he really was), but that is more of an indicator of how partisan some really are. A hardcore liberal is not admit that his guy has sucked; likewise for hardcore conservatives.

Ah, the refreshing "all these guys are bums" and the only smart people are those who claim to be independent shtick.

 

[tommyboy]

I'd just like to thank all of the people who voted for Obama, because I won money off of tommyboy.

and you got paid. I hear some people round this joint don't like to pay.

I asked Tim for link. Never sent it. Sorry I didn't ship $50 to a stranger on the internet because he said he thought we made a bet.

Wasnt referring to you or anyone in particular

Carry on

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Color me delusional then. I was all set to vote McCain until he chose Palin as his running mate and have friends and family who felt the same. As far as 2012 goes, Obama's first term was so bad that any decent, reasonable candidate would have beaten him. The fact that a milquetoast candidate like Mitt Romney gave him a run for his money is proof of that.

Based on performance Obama should have been one and done but the Republicans were unable to come up with a candidate that could beat him. Pretty pathetic showing by the GOP if you ask me.

The bottom line is that neither party has the answers and the blind lemmings that follow them aren't making things better. GWB and Obama were/are both disasters, I don't see how anyone could defend either party but every day you get the same posters throwing rocks at one another and

Okay off my soapbox now...

Well said. My thought has always been that Bush in '04 and Obama in '12 were both totally beatable, but John Kerry and Mitt Romney were the best either party could come up with, so both of those disasters somehow got a 2nd term. Sad. To me, it boggles the mind that anyone could think Obama has done a good job, just like it boggles the mind that some of the right think Bush wasn't that bad (he really was), but that is more of an indicator of how partisan some really are. A hardcore liberal is not admit that his guy has sucked; likewise for hardcore conservatives.

I think "hardcore liberals" are pretty vocal complaining about Obama. Even among people I know who I'd consider hardcore Democrats, the more liberal they are the less happy they are with him. Moderate Democrats are generally more supportive, since he's been a moderate President for the most part.

The stuff that irritates me is mainly his general leadership style (not aggressive enough pushing his agenda), and the continued revolving door between various industries and regulatory agencies. The latter is where I'm by far the most disappointed in terms of his campaign rhetoric vs. how he's governed.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Color me delusional then. I was all set to vote McCain until he chose Palin as his running mate and have friends and family who felt the same. As far as 2012 goes, Obama's first term was so bad that any decent, reasonable candidate would have beaten him. The fact that a milquetoast candidate like Mitt Romney gave him a run for his money is proof of that.

Based on performance Obama should have been one and done but the Republicans were unable to come up with a candidate that could beat him. Pretty pathetic showing by the GOP if you ask me.

The bottom line is that neither party has the answers and the blind lemmings that follow them aren't making things better. GWB and Obama were/are both disasters, I don't see how anyone could defend either party but every day you get the same posters throwing rocks at one another and

Okay off my soapbox now...

Well said. My thought has always been that Bush in '04 and Obama in '12 were both totally beatable, but John Kerry and Mitt Romney were the best either party could come up with, so both of those disasters somehow got a 2nd term. Sad. To me, it boggles the mind that anyone could think Obama has done a good job, just like it boggles the mind that some of the right think Bush wasn't that bad (he really was), but that is more of an indicator of how partisan some really are. A hardcore liberal is not admit that his guy has sucked; likewise for hardcore conservatives.

I think "hardcore liberals" are pretty vocal complaining about Obama. Even among people I know who I'd consider hardcore Democrats, the more liberal they are the less happy they are with him. Moderate Democrats are generally more supportive, since he's been a moderate President for the most part.

The stuff that irritates me is mainly his general leadership style (not aggressive enough pushing his agenda), and the continued revolving door between various industries and regulatory agencies. The latter is where I'm by far the most disappointed in terms of his campaign rhetoric vs. how he's governed.

Agreed.

 

[badmojo1006]

Color me delusional then. I was all set to vote McCain until he chose Palin as his running mate and have friends and family who felt the same. As far as 2012 goes, Obama's first term was so bad that any decent, reasonable candidate would have beaten him. The fact that a milquetoast candidate like Mitt Romney gave him a run for his money is proof of that.

Based on performance Obama should have been one and done but the Republicans were unable to come up with a candidate that could beat him. Pretty pathetic showing by the GOP if you ask me.

The bottom line is that neither party has the answers and the blind lemmings that follow them aren't making things better. GWB and Obama were/are both disasters, I don't see how anyone could defend either party but every day you get the same posters throwing rocks at one another and

Okay off my soapbox now...

Well said. My thought has always been that Bush in '04 and Obama in '12 were both totally beatable, but John Kerry and Mitt Romney were the best either party could come up with, so both of those disasters somehow got a 2nd term. Sad. To me, it boggles the mind that anyone could think Obama has done a good job, just like it boggles the mind that some of the right think Bush wasn't that bad (he really was), but that is more of an indicator of how partisan some really are. A hardcore liberal is not admit that his guy has sucked; likewise for hardcore conservatives.

I think "hardcore liberals" are pretty vocal complaining about Obama. Even among people I know who I'd consider hardcore Democrats, the more liberal they are the less happy they are with him. Moderate Democrats are generally more supportive, since he's been a moderate President for the most part.

The stuff that irritates me is mainly his general leadership style (not aggressive enough pushing his agenda), and the continued revolving door between various industries and regulatory agencies. The latter is where I'm by far the most disappointed in terms of his campaign rhetoric vs. how he's governed.

 

[timschochet]

But Finless, if your posts about Obama aren't shtick, then they're just weird. Can you provide specific examples of how he has been such a disaster?

Bump. This goes for anyone else here too. Ghost Rider- though you seem to hate to respond to me.

But I'm just not getting the "disaster" part. I've had this same conversation with conservative friends and relatives who hate Obama- when challenged, they start with Obamacare, and basically have nothing beyond that. And even with Obamacare all they can do is spout conservative rhetoric without any real knowledge of the facts. In the final analysis, it appears that they hate Obama because they hate Obama.

 

[humpback]

I'm disappointed in Obama but I think it is the republicans that keep getting duped by their own party. Had McClain not selected Palin in 2008 they probably would have defeated Obama in his first election and had they put up a decent candidate in 2012 they would have trounced Obama in his second.

As long as the republicans harp on issues like guns, abortion and the "sanctity of marriage" and keep trodding out loser candidates they have no one to blame but themselves.

So there, it is YOUR fault we got stuck with Obama for a second term. Thanks a lot...

I think there was roughly a zero percent chance McCain was going to win the second the bottom fell out of the economy. Palin and his transparent ploy of suspending his campaign because of the crisis might have made it marginally worse, but he was losing either way.

Republicans probably should have won in 2012 though, given the economic conditions.

Yeah, anyone who thinks McCain would have won if he picked someone besides Palin is delusional. Saying they "should have" won in 2012 is a bit of a stretch as well, just based on the numbers. Besides, the "weak" economy continues to be spun as a positive by the likes of Gunz because of all of the damage caused by Bush, etc.

Color me delusional then. I was all set to vote McCain until he chose Palin as his running mate and have friends and family who felt the same. As far as 2012 goes, Obama's first term was so bad that any decent, reasonable candidate would have beaten him. The fact that a milquetoast candidate like Mitt Romney gave him a run for his money is proof of that.

Based on performance Obama should have been one and done but the Republicans were unable to come up with a candidate that could beat him. Pretty pathetic showing by the GOP if you ask me.

The bottom line is that neither party has the answers and the blind lemmings that follow them aren't making things better. GWB and Obama were/are both disasters, I don't see how anyone could defend either party but every day you get the same posters throwing rocks at one another and

Okay off my soapbox now...

Your first paragraph is all sorts of wrong. Just because you and some people you know didn't vote for McCain because of the Palin pick doesn't mean squat in terms of the outcome. He was trailing almost the entire way, in fact he got a bump initially after the hail-mary announcement, and he got destroyed in the general. It wasn't even close, and it wasn't because of Palin (as much as she's a joke).

Same goes for 2012- Romney wasn't a decent, reasonable candidate? Who would have been, Newt or Santorum? Also, Romney didn't give him "a run for his money", he got smoked. As bad as you may think his first term was, obviously many others disagree. There are more of them than there are of you.

The numbers are pretty clear, and they don't favor the GOP. It's going to take a lot more than just finding what you consider to be a "decent, reasonable" candidate for them to win the POTUS anytime soon. I do agree with your last paragraph.

 

[timschochet]

McCain wouldn't have won no matter who he picked. The selection of Palin didn't lose him the election.

But that's not the point. The selection of Sarah Palin was a moment of great dishonor, both for John McCain personally, and for the Republican Party in general. It allowed the idiots and fanatics, the ones who have always been in the cheering section but never had a seat on the table of the GOP, to have a seat on the table. Ultimately it was the doorway through which all the Tea Partiers came through, helping to destroy the reputation of the GOP as a reasonable alternative to Democratic politics.

 

[The Commish]

Of what the GOP presented, Huntsman was probably the most reasonable candidate. Granted, we don't know what skeletons are in his closet like we do Romney, but I don't think it was reasonable for the GOP to go "used car salesman / slick politician" given what was going on at the time.

 

[Fennis]

Hold a election tomorrow and McCain would lose by a bigger margin than the first time.

If anything, I think that just proves that a lot of people vote party, no matter what.

I'd offer you a hot cup of ####, but you're probably too dumb to accept it.

OK.

If he was dumb wouldn't he accept it?

 

[Finless]

But Finless, if your posts about Obama aren't shtick, then they're just weird. Can you provide specific examples of how he has been such a disaster?

Bump. This goes for anyone else here too. Ghost Rider- though you seem to hate to respond to me.But I'm just not getting the "disaster" part. I've had this same conversation with conservative friends and relatives who hate Obama- when challenged, they start with Obamacare, and basically have nothing beyond that. And even with Obamacare all they can do is spout conservative rhetoric without any real knowledge of the facts. In the final analysis, it appears that they hate Obama because they hate Obama.

Yeah I can list a few. As easy as dropping my droors after my first cup of coffee and taking a ####. I am working today and potentially driving to Denver from Minneapolis. May take a while. I already left a lot of fat to chew on.

So you want to debate me on how those who voted for Obama got what they expected and how he's done a good job? I post when I have the time but I'd enjoy this.

 

[humpback]

Of what the GOP presented, Huntsman was probably the most reasonable candidate. Granted, we don't know what skeletons are in his closet like we do Romney, but I don't think it was reasonable for the GOP to go "used car salesman / slick politician" given what was going on at the time.

Do you think Huntsman would have won the general? If not, then my point remains the same. If so, go get yourself checked out.

 

[Finless]

Not sure this is a a great arena for me. Not many fans here anymore, which I don't need. I just need non-biased input as far as the opinion of the debaters is concerned. Can I get that? Regardless, I'm game.

 

[cstu]

But Finless, if your posts about Obama aren't shtick, then they're just weird. Can you provide specific examples of how he has been such a disaster?

Bump. This goes for anyone else here too. Ghost Rider- though you seem to hate to respond to me.But I'm just not getting the "disaster" part. I've had this same conversation with conservative friends and relatives who hate Obama- when challenged, they start with Obamacare, and basically have nothing beyond that. And even with Obamacare all they can do is spout conservative rhetoric without any real knowledge of the facts. In the final analysis, it appears that they hate Obama because they hate Obama.

Yeah I can list a few. As easy as dropping my droors after my first cup of coffee and taking a ####. I am working today and potentially driving to Denver from Minneapolis. May take a while. I already left a lot of fat to chew on.

So you want to debate me on how those who voted for Obama got what they expected and how he's done a good job? I post when I have the time but I'd enjoy this.

I can't name anything major that he screwed up. He hasn't done everything right, or that he said he would, but overall I think he'll go down as one of our better Presidents.