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General Malaise "vs." reading comprehension ; also some talk of skyim and the elder scrolls (4 Viewers)

So I've somehow goofed Winterhold College. I have the convo where she says "you were about to show us your skills", or something like that and then the only choices I have are to say, "nevermind", or else just leave the conversation. If I leave the conversation and then throw a fear spell, nothing happens and I go back to her and have the same conversation all over?

Bug or user error?

 
So I've somehow goofed Winterhold College. I have the convo where she says "you were about to show us your skills", or something like that and then the only choices I have are to say, "nevermind", or else just leave the conversation. If I leave the conversation and then throw a fear spell, nothing happens and I go back to her and have the same conversation all over?Bug or user error?
To get in the college? if so you need a fire atronach spell.
 
Staring a 2nd character tonight. Pure mage (Jedi). No armor, no weapons, smithing only jewelry (to be enchanted), high speech.

Destruction, alchemy, restoration, sneak.

No spending - going to see if I can get away with not spending a single piece of gold.

No thefts. I'll take everything not considered stealing.

 
Staring a 2nd character tonight. Pure mage (Jedi). No armor, no weapons, smithing only jewelry (to be enchanted), high speech. Destruction, alchemy, restoration, sneak.No spending - going to see if I can get away with not spending a single piece of gold. No thefts. I'll take everything not considered stealing.
Good luck finding all the spell tomes.
 
Staring a 2nd character tonight. Pure mage (Jedi). No armor, no weapons, smithing only jewelry (to be enchanted), high speech. Destruction, alchemy, restoration, sneak.No spending - going to see if I can get away with not spending a single piece of gold. No thefts. I'll take everything not considered stealing.
Good luck finding all the spell tomes.
this. I'm playing a pure Mage and it is very expensive to buy all the mid and high level spell tomes. But I must say...dual conjuring daemon lords makes for a formidable toon. I've been cash poor the entire game so far.ETA. Conjuration chain is slow to start but stick with it. Rolling solo now and able to conjure a tank or ranged antronoch above the first ones you get is a huge plus if you dump all level ups into magic instead of health or stamina. A
 
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Staring a 2nd character tonight. Pure mage (Jedi). No armor, no weapons, smithing only jewelry (to be enchanted), high speech. Destruction, alchemy, restoration, sneak.No spending - going to see if I can get away with not spending a single piece of gold. No thefts. I'll take everything not considered stealing.
I'd suggest you also use Alteration for Oakflesh, Stoneskin and the like. And also that you mix in a lot of points into health. I wasn't wearing armor with my mage, but then I hit higher levels and people were taking out over half my health with one arrow. I wasn't using those armor spells though. They would have helped a lot.
 
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So I've somehow goofed Winterhold College. I have the convo where she says "you were about to show us your skills", or something like that and then the only choices I have are to say, "nevermind", or else just leave the conversation. If I leave the conversation and then throw a fear spell, nothing happens and I go back to her and have the same conversation all over?Bug or user error?
To get in the college? if so you need a fire atronach spell.
The spell you need differs from one game to another. It can be flame atronach, firebolt, magelight, fear, or healing hands. Possibly more.
 
So I've somehow goofed Winterhold College. I have the convo where she says "you were about to show us your skills", or something like that and then the only choices I have are to say, "nevermind", or else just leave the conversation. If I leave the conversation and then throw a fear spell, nothing happens and I go back to her and have the same conversation all over?Bug or user error?
To get in the college? if so you need a fire atronach spell.
The spell you need differs from one game to another. It can be flame atronach, firebolt, magelight, fear, or healing hands. Possibly more.
Mine was Flame Atronach. I said I didn't have it, and she kindly sold it to me for 2-300 gold. Have to say it was well worth it at the lower levels, that thing saved my ### more times than not.
 
'Matthias said:
So I've somehow goofed Winterhold College. I have the convo where she says "you were about to show us your skills", or something like that and then the only choices I have are to say, "nevermind", or else just leave the conversation. If I leave the conversation and then throw a fear spell, nothing happens and I go back to her and have the same conversation all over?Bug or user error?
Did you cast it on her?
I don't remember it being particularly difficult. I think I was drunk when I did it. Try doing it drunk.
 
Skyrim is not very good. It is incredibly easy, to the point that I had to crank the difficulty up the entire way, even then I killed the final boss in under 20 seconds.

The combat system was revolutionary for an RPG when Morrowind came out, but that was a decade ago, now the combat system is below average.

Mass Effect>>>>>Elder Scrolls

 
Skyrim is not very good. It is incredibly easy, to the point that I had to crank the difficulty up the entire way, even then I killed the final boss in under 20 seconds. The combat system was revolutionary for an RPG when Morrowind came out, but that was a decade ago, now the combat system is below average.Mass Effect>>>>>Elder Scrolls
Troll Fat(0003ad72) Alchemy Effects 1st: Resist Poison2nd: Fortify Two-handed3rd: Frenzy4th: Damage Health
 
'Matthias said:
So I've somehow goofed Winterhold College. I have the convo where she says "you were about to show us your skills", or something like that and then the only choices I have are to say, "nevermind", or else just leave the conversation. If I leave the conversation and then throw a fear spell, nothing happens and I go back to her and have the same conversation all over?Bug or user error?
Did you cast it on her?
I cast it on her and it says she's too high of a level to be affected by my fear spell. I'm a total non-magic user -- just need the key from the first mage college quest to finish the Gauldur quest -- so if I need to level up my fear spell or something, that's gonna be tricky.I also read online that there's supposed to be a shout option to use to get into the college, but I never got that opportunity either.
 
'Matthias said:
So I've somehow goofed Winterhold College. I have the convo where she says "you were about to show us your skills", or something like that and then the only choices I have are to say, "nevermind", or else just leave the conversation. If I leave the conversation and then throw a fear spell, nothing happens and I go back to her and have the same conversation all over?Bug or user error?
Did you cast it on her?
I cast it on her and it says she's too high of a level to be affected by my fear spell. I'm a total non-magic user -- just need the key from the first mage college quest to finish the Gauldur quest -- so if I need to level up my fear spell or something, that's gonna be tricky.I also read online that there's supposed to be a shout option to use to get into the college, but I never got that opportunity either.
If you go far enough along in the greybeard quest then you can get into the college by just being dragonborn. She will ask you to demonstrate a shout.
 
'Matthias said:
So I've somehow goofed Winterhold College. I have the convo where she says "you were about to show us your skills", or something like that and then the only choices I have are to say, "nevermind", or else just leave the conversation. If I leave the conversation and then throw a fear spell, nothing happens and I go back to her and have the same conversation all over?Bug or user error?
Did you cast it on her?
I cast it on her and it says she's too high of a level to be affected by my fear spell. I'm a total non-magic user -- just need the key from the first mage college quest to finish the Gauldur quest -- so if I need to level up my fear spell or something, that's gonna be tricky.I also read online that there's supposed to be a shout option to use to get into the college, but I never got that opportunity either.
I think you are supposed to cast it on the seal on the ground, not the bouncer.
 
'Matthias said:
So I've somehow goofed Winterhold College. I have the convo where she says "you were about to show us your skills", or something like that and then the only choices I have are to say, "nevermind", or else just leave the conversation. If I leave the conversation and then throw a fear spell, nothing happens and I go back to her and have the same conversation all over?Bug or user error?
Did you cast it on her?
I cast it on her and it says she's too high of a level to be affected by my fear spell. I'm a total non-magic user -- just need the key from the first mage college quest to finish the Gauldur quest -- so if I need to level up my fear spell or something, that's gonna be tricky.I also read online that there's supposed to be a shout option to use to get into the college, but I never got that opportunity either.
I think you are supposed to cast it on the seal on the ground, not the bouncer.
correct. There is a seal just behind her. Aim at it and then you get in
 
Skyrim is not very good. It is incredibly easy, to the point that I had to crank the difficulty up the entire way, even then I killed the final boss in under 20 seconds. The combat system was revolutionary for an RPG when Morrowind came out, but that was a decade ago, now the combat system is below average.Mass Effect>>>>>Elder Scrolls
THANKS!
 
How do you increase the power of shouts? Do you have to find the next level of the shout somewhere, or can you just use Dragon Souls on them?

 
So for instance I have the first level of Ice Form. I found it on a mountaintop south of Winterhold. So to get the next level, I'll have to find Ice Form 2 somewhere else? Or are you saying that any Shout I find will be Ice Form 2?

 
I love Ice Form. My most used shout. Great when you're outnumbered for taking a few opponents out of the fight while you whittle others down. Also good for things like damaging a giant down to close to death, then Ice Form him so you can walk up to soul trap range, break the ice and soul trap him, then back away to finish him off without risking getting launched into orbit.

 
One thing that's great about this game...I was in a Dungeon somewhere Southwest of solitude...

And in the dungeon there is a trap door and some **** who traps people and does God knows what to them. For some reason it really got to me, and I made a point of killing him just because of that. There wasn't any great treasure (there was a shout) but it was so satisfying killing the dude.

For a gigantic game they do a good job of assigning personality to different NPCs, which was one of the biggest failings of Oblivion, IMO
 
'Matthias said:
So I've somehow goofed Winterhold College. I have the convo where she says "you were about to show us your skills", or something like that and then the only choices I have are to say, "nevermind", or else just leave the conversation. If I leave the conversation and then throw a fear spell, nothing happens and I go back to her and have the same conversation all over?Bug or user error?
Did you cast it on her?
I cast it on her and it says she's too high of a level to be affected by my fear spell. I'm a total non-magic user -- just need the key from the first mage college quest to finish the Gauldur quest -- so if I need to level up my fear spell or something, that's gonna be tricky.I also read online that there's supposed to be a shout option to use to get into the college, but I never got that opportunity either.
I think you are supposed to cast it on the seal on the ground, not the bouncer.
correct. There is a seal just behind her. Aim at it and then you get in
Yes, according to the wiki, the spell gets cast on the seal on the ground, unless it is Healing Hands as that one she tells you to cast on her directly.
 
'Matthias said:
So I've somehow goofed Winterhold College. I have the convo where she says "you were about to show us your skills", or something like that and then the only choices I have are to say, "nevermind", or else just leave the conversation. If I leave the conversation and then throw a fear spell, nothing happens and I go back to her and have the same conversation all over?Bug or user error?
Did you cast it on her?
I cast it on her and it says she's too high of a level to be affected by my fear spell. I'm a total non-magic user -- just need the key from the first mage college quest to finish the Gauldur quest -- so if I need to level up my fear spell or something, that's gonna be tricky.I also read online that there's supposed to be a shout option to use to get into the college, but I never got that opportunity either.
I think you are supposed to cast it on the seal on the ground, not the bouncer.
correct. There is a seal just behind her. Aim at it and then you get in
Yes, according to the wiki, the spell gets cast on the seal on the ground, unless it is Healing Hands as that one she tells you to cast on her directly.
Correct, thanks. It was just user error, like it almost always is. Gauldur amulet secured.
 
So she asks different characters to cast different spells? Mine was a firebolt.
IIRC she asks you what kind of magic interests you and your answers are driven by having a minimal level in each discipline. The spell you cast is likely tied to the answer you give.
 
I'm taking the rest of the day off and am thinking about picking up Skyrim. Next 5 days at home will provide ample time to do things besides read.

Problem is, I'm not sure if I'll like Skyrim. I've played a ton of Gears and World of Warcraft, like the fantasy element, but the combat is looking kind of dull for my tastes (I'm guessing). I've been looking at a number of combat vids and it seems like a hack/slash type of system. Another random thing about me is that I get dizzy playing 1st person shooters so I stick to 3rd person games. What about the game is keeping you engaged?

I don't mean this to be a 'sell me' post, but just something to put me over the line to buy it.

 
'Matthias said:
I'm taking the rest of the day off and am thinking about picking up Skyrim. Next 5 days at home will provide ample time to do things besides read.Problem is, I'm not sure if I'll like Skyrim. I've played a ton of Gears and World of Warcraft, like the fantasy element, but the combat is looking kind of dull for my tastes (I'm guessing). I've been looking at a number of combat vids and it seems like a hack/slash type of system. Another random thing about me is that I get dizzy playing 1st person shooters so I stick to 3rd person games. What about the game is keeping you engaged? I don't mean this to be a 'sell me' post, but just something to put me over the line to buy it.
Combat is kind of mediocre but that's not why you buy an Elder Scrolls game. You buy an Elder Scrolls game because the world is huge and you can do anything you want and create a character in any way that you want and play around with anything you want. So far, I have 100 hours of gameplay in and probably have explored under half of what I could.
:goodposting: I havent sunk the amount of time I'd like to in this sort of game, but when I was in college playing Oblivion, I completed all achievements and sunk 250+ hrs into it (incl. Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isles expansions)This game seems larger than that one, and with about 50 hrs into it right now, I feel like I havent even scratched the surface yet.Biggest sell is that the environment is so open you can effectively craft your character into a hero of Skyrim, or the scourge of society that will steal/kill/pillage everyone and everything thing in your path. Also random dragon encounters are exciting and are a big "x-factor" of this game.THAT is the allure of this type of game.Sure the combat can be better but with a game this big its one tiny drawback on a game that is truly masterful in many ways.
 
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I'm taking the rest of the day off and am thinking about picking up Skyrim. Next 5 days at home will provide ample time to do things besides read.Problem is, I'm not sure if I'll like Skyrim. I've played a ton of Gears and World of Warcraft, like the fantasy element, but the combat is looking kind of dull for my tastes (I'm guessing). I've been looking at a number of combat vids and it seems like a hack/slash type of system. Another random thing about me is that I get dizzy playing 1st person shooters so I stick to 3rd person games. What about the game is keeping you engaged? I don't mean this to be a 'sell me' post, but just something to put me over the line to buy it.
I've got about 100 hours in. There have been at least 4 or 5 storylines so far that are very original and would probably make great standalone movies, even in another setting. At 100 hours I'm a little bored at it, especially when what I've accomplished with sheer time has now been cracked by guys who have found glitches and exploits and get the same stats in 2% of the time. It's simply head and shoulders above anything else released in the past few years that I've played anything. Its not a "hard" game, there are parts that are extremely challenging but 90% of the time you are wandering or crushing what is in your path. But it is totally engaging and anyone that picks it up will play it like a crackpipe, guaranteed.If you are looking just for something to challenge you, pick up Dark Souls instead.
 
'Matthias said:
So she asks different characters to cast different spells? Mine was a firebolt.
I think it depends on your answer to her question of why you want to come to the college.
The answer might play a role, but there is still some random chance involved. I saved before talking to her, and kept reloading saves and talking to her again until she asked for firebolt or summon fire atronach as the spell, so I could get it for 30 gold rather than full price as those were the only ones she was asking for I knew I'd use a lot. I kept choosing the same dialogue options, but the spells she asked for varied across reloaded saves.
 
'One said:
I'm taking the rest of the day off and am thinking about picking up Skyrim. Next 5 days at home will provide ample time to do things besides read.

Problem is, I'm not sure if I'll like Skyrim. I've played a ton of Gears and World of Warcraft, like the fantasy element, but the combat is looking kind of dull for my tastes (I'm guessing). I've been looking at a number of combat vids and it seems like a hack/slash type of system. Another random thing about me is that I get dizzy playing 1st person shooters so I stick to 3rd person games. What about the game is keeping you engaged?

I don't mean this to be a 'sell me' post, but just something to put me over the line to buy it.
I believe you can play it in 3rd person. I don't, but I have mistakenly backed myself out to 3rd person by clicking R3 (PS3) a few times so I am guessing you could play the whole game that way.

 
'One said:
I'm taking the rest of the day off and am thinking about picking up Skyrim. Next 5 days at home will provide ample time to do things besides read.

Problem is, I'm not sure if I'll like Skyrim. I've played a ton of Gears and World of Warcraft, like the fantasy element, but the combat is looking kind of dull for my tastes (I'm guessing). I've been looking at a number of combat vids and it seems like a hack/slash type of system. Another random thing about me is that I get dizzy playing 1st person shooters so I stick to 3rd person games. What about the game is keeping you engaged?

I don't mean this to be a 'sell me' post, but just something to put me over the line to buy it.
I believe you can play it in 3rd person. I don't, but I have mistakenly backed myself out to 3rd person by clicking R3 (PS3) a few times so I am guessing you could play the whole game that way.
I play 3rd person 98% of the time but prefer FPS games usually. Strange maybe, but as someone else said, it's much easier to see everything in 3rd person. Much easier to shoot bow and pick up stuff in first person.
 
I play 3rd person 98% of the time but prefer FPS games usually. Strange maybe, but as someone else said, it's much easier to see everything in 3rd person. Much easier to shoot bow and pick up stuff in first person.
The only time I am in third person is when I get heavy handed in battle and click R3 by accident. I just can't get in to the whole 3rd person perspective, though it works well in other games for me like Demon's Souls. I played Oblvion in 1st person the whole way through also.
 
I play in first person most of the time, but when I'm traveling in the countryside I'll switch over to third person to be able to see more.

 
I play in first person most of the time, but when I'm traveling in the countryside I'll switch over to third person to be able to see more.
I'm going to have to do the latter to get a better perspective on the views...
Same here. Enough people have said the same thing that there must be some merit to the opinion. It's just something I haven't done and am not used too. It may just take some time for me to adapt.
 
I play in first person most of the time, but when I'm traveling in the countryside I'll switch over to third person to be able to see more.
I'm going to have to do the latter to get a better perspective on the views...
Same here. Enough people have said the same thing that there must be some merit to the opinion. It's just something I haven't done and am not used too. It may just take some time for me to adapt.
Agreed, it will feel more like COD MW for me doing it this way
 
'One said:
I'm taking the rest of the day off and am thinking about picking up Skyrim. Next 5 days at home will provide ample time to do things besides read.

Problem is, I'm not sure if I'll like Skyrim. I've played a ton of Gears and World of Warcraft, like the fantasy element, but the combat is looking kind of dull for my tastes (I'm guessing). I've been looking at a number of combat vids and it seems like a hack/slash type of system. Another random thing about me is that I get dizzy playing 1st person shooters so I stick to 3rd person games. What about the game is keeping you engaged?

I don't mean this to be a 'sell me' post, but just something to put me over the line to buy it.
I believe you can play it in 3rd person. I don't, but I have mistakenly backed myself out to 3rd person by clicking R3 (PS3) a few times so I am guessing you could play the whole game that way.
I've found that third person works far better outside while I stick to first person inside. When you have multiple attackers using third person decreases your accuracy but also greatly increases your ability to gauge terrain and escape.Knowing when to use what has greatly increased my enjoyment of the game.

 
'One said:
I'm taking the rest of the day off and am thinking about picking up Skyrim. Next 5 days at home will provide ample time to do things besides read.

Problem is, I'm not sure if I'll like Skyrim. I've played a ton of Gears and World of Warcraft, like the fantasy element, but the combat is looking kind of dull for my tastes (I'm guessing). I've been looking at a number of combat vids and it seems like a hack/slash type of system. Another random thing about me is that I get dizzy playing 1st person shooters so I stick to 3rd person games. What about the game is keeping you engaged?

I don't mean this to be a 'sell me' post, but just something to put me over the line to buy it.
I believe you can play it in 3rd person. I don't, but I have mistakenly backed myself out to 3rd person by clicking R3 (PS3) a few times so I am guessing you could play the whole game that way.
I've found that third person works far better outside while I stick to first person inside. When you have multiple attackers using third person decreases your accuracy but also greatly increases your ability to gauge terrain and escape.Knowing when to use what has greatly increased my enjoyment of the game.
Now that I am thinking about it, the game will auto switch you into 3rd person when you are riding a horse so maybe the creators kind of intended that you use that outside. Hmmmmm
 
What is the point of having sweet armor if you can't see it glisten? The FPS melee combat leaves a lot to be desired, and I do a lot of HULK SMASHing.

 
I've found that third person works far better outside while I stick to first person inside. When you have multiple attackers using third person decreases your accuracy but also greatly increases your ability to gauge terrain and escape.Knowing when to use what has greatly increased my enjoyment of the game.
Do those of you that use 3rd person outside do anything with the zoom (like zooming out a bit)? Or do you just leave it at the default view when you pop in to that mode?
 
'Ignoramus said:
'NorvilleBarnes said:
Staring a 2nd character tonight. Pure mage (Jedi). No armor, no weapons, smithing only jewelry (to be enchanted), high speech. Destruction, alchemy, restoration, sneak.No spending - going to see if I can get away with not spending a single piece of gold. No thefts. I'll take everything not considered stealing.
Good luck finding all the spell tomes.
And lockpicks - didn't realize how many I purchased with my first character. I kept finding tomes of spells that I'd already purchased - ended up with an entire bookshelf of them.On the plus side, not spending money has certainly freed me up to simply do more exploring and less earning.So far this is a lot of fun.
 
If at some point you wish you had made your toon different PC users can use ~ type in "showracemenu" then hit Enter and redo your toon, when you are done just hit ~

 

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