Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Question for the experianced archers out there....what perk do you like best, power shot or steady hand?
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AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
"All" /terminator
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Powershot by far. Stagger not only disrupts a tank charging you, but stops ranged attacks from archers and mages. Always useful.Steady hand comes in handy sometimes, but other times it just sounds like you're trying to fart and the zoom fails.
I started a new character. Steve the High Elf, he refuses to do anything but magic. Spent some time just standing on rocks outside of Giant Camps shooting them with Fireballs. Leveled Destruction up quite a bit.
Kirby
Footballguy
This is fun... just got to 50 and got this perk. I walked by a noble on a horse and he was an #######, so I cast frenzy on his horse. He jumped off the horse and it started kicking the crap out of him and his guard.Oooooohhh! I can't wait until I get my illusion high enough to cast silently... going to F whole towns up.
This might make a lot of quests too easy(cidna mine, most dark brotherhood stuff).
This. I did all except Hunter's Discipline, Ranger, and the 2nd and 3rd level of Critical Shot. Steady hand is probably my fav though.
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I'm pretty sure I won't be going back to my cheesy ways. Like I said, I did it for an hour yesterday to get just that one level up and I was bored to tears doing it. As someone who gets an hour here and an hour there, I just can't see wasting another session just to gain a level. So I'll either pick something like two handed and start visiting mines and caves again, or I could go single sword and use destruction and try to get a level up that way. Or just make my final armor set with 4/5 on the first enchantment perk. Odds are, it'll be the two handed thing as I'm only at 16 so it SHOULD level up quickly. Either way, I'm sure it will be more entertaining than swacking a trapped character for an hour!
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I did them all with the exception of the two on the left prior to the final perk. I think one let you move faster with your bow drawn or something like that. Don't even remember what the other one did.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Yeah I am no good at the long grind I hear some people do. I get bored pretty quickly and just say heck with it.
It seems to me I defeat the purpose of playing when I take something fun and turn it in to something that seems like work.As I said, with two handed at 16, I should be able to level it up like a bandit by, well, hitting bandits! I know I'll miss a lot, but what the heck. I guess I need to head back to the crib and chat with Lydia. I gave her all the sweetest two handed weapons and sold the rest. So rejoin, trade, dismiss, go hunting.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
OK, so after all my questions yesterday (and picking my way through this thread) I disenchanted a shield that had 20% blocking and I tried to add that to my Steel Shield but it only does like 5% blocking...is that because I'm not leveled up enough in enchanting?
Hawks64
Footballguy
Question for those that have completed the Companions Quests
When you finally get the cure is it something that you get to put into your inventory or is it a dialog option? I haven't once turned into my werewolf form, don't really see the need for it to be honest, but don't want to give it up without trying it a few times first.
Foosball God
Foos
I think I've decided to start molding my characters after FBG personalities.
My next guy is going to be called shuke. He'll be an Imperial that eats food a lot, acts confused during dialog exchanges by asking "What was I supposed to do again?", and has a "tail" fetish so he'll hit on Khajit and Argonian women.
My next guy is going to be called shuke. He'll be an Imperial that eats food a lot, acts confused during dialog exchanges by asking "What was I supposed to do again?", and has a "tail" fetish so he'll hit on Khajit and Argonian women.
footballnerd
Footballguy
I believe the first cure is for one of the companions (dialogue), and you'll have to also grab a second one if you want to cure yourself later (not sure if item). You are disease proof with the blood in you, and there is no real drawbacks to keeping it besides losing sleep bonuses, but I have slept maybe 4 times the whole game so see no point of it besides that alchemy chick in whiterun telling me how awful I look all the time
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footballnerd
Footballguy
it is a freakin chore to get enchanting up, in theory you gotta build up your alchemy to create a weak enchant potion, then use it to enchant something to increase your alchemy, then creat more potent enchantment potions and enchant better alchemy wear...blah blah blah...repeat cycle... all along using perks to increase enchantment and alchemy, i guess in the end you'd need the highest enchantment and alchemy, is this the only pattern to getting up there?'Matthias said:
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AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
My charactor Peens will be an orc that tries to eat pottery all day and talks down to all the dark elves and redguards.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
I did the same thingAfter getting my ### kicked numerous times - those things are tough
I have never put a perk in to Alchemy. I never bothered creating potions of alchemy or enchanting either. The process was simply, get soul gems, fill them if empty, make daggers (improves smithing), enchant daggers (improves enchanting), sell daggers, level up, profit.Edit to add: I do save any enchanting potions of 25% or higher that I find until I want to make a premium piece of equipment. But even that isn't ncessary. That's sort of a "max everything out" kind of step for your personal items IF you want to do it. Certainly not required.
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NCCommish
Footballguy
You can also go around the other side of the mountain pretty easily. I did coming and going
footballnerd
Footballguy
oops, prob should of said get enchanting levels up on items. wondering how high fire enchants, etc would be if you had both enchant and alchemy leveled up all the way, did that enchant alchemy cycle i described above a few times, would you be able to eventually build a potent enchant potion (100% increase maybe?) that would produce items equivalent to the ones you can buy'Matthias said:
Hawks64
Footballguy
I believe the first cure is for one of the companions (dialogue), and you'll have to also grab a second one if you want to cure yourself later (not sure if item). You are disease proof with the blood in you, and there is no real drawbacks to keeping it besides losing sleep bonuses, but I have slept maybe 4 times the whole game so see no point of it besides that alchemy chick in whiterun telling me how awful I look all the time
Someone else will chime in shortly that is smarter on this stuff than I am. But to be honest, I don't know that you can make enchantment potions that are as good as what you can buy or find. If so, I would imagine it would take a lot of alchemy perks. I highly doubt it would be worth it. Unless your goal is to simply see how much gold you can accumulate. But I think the perks would be much better served somewhere else.oops, prob should of said get enchanting levels up on items. wondering how high fire enchants, etc would be if you had both enchant and alchemy leveled up all the way, did that enchant alchemy cycle i described above a few times, would you be able to eventually build a potent enchant potion (100% increase maybe?) that would produce items equivalent to the ones you can buy'Matthias said:
Hawks64
Footballguy
The goal is to create enchanted armor that stacks to 100% or higher increase in alchemy. Then use that to make stronger enchanting potions for enchanting gear for smithing to squeeze out the highest possible armor/damage ratings when you smith gear.Someone else will chime in shortly that is smarter on this stuff than I am. But to be honest, I don't know that you can make enchantment potions that are as good as what you can buy or find. If so, I would imagine it would take a lot of alchemy perks. I highly doubt it would be worth it. Unless your goal is to simply see how much gold you can accumulate. But I think the perks would be much better served somewhere else.oops, prob should of said get enchanting levels up on items. wondering how high fire enchants, etc would be if you had both enchant and alchemy leveled up all the way, did that enchant alchemy cycle i described above a few times, would you be able to eventually build a potent enchant potion (100% increase maybe?) that would produce items equivalent to the ones you can buy'Matthias said:
footballnerd
Footballguy
guess I might have to pass on the dream of a 10+ sec soul trap daedric bow.....
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footballnerd
Footballguy
ya I was more wondering if it was possible without exploits and you had the time to grind it out.'Matthias said:With exploits or without?I haven't gotten that high, but most people seem to like the stuff they've made themselves after they max out 100 at enchanting. But I think that's mostly because they can make the stuff they want instead of it actually being better than the best thing you can find out there. But I think they get close to the stuff you can find. That's not doing any looping bugs.oops, prob should of said get enchanting levels up on items. wondering how high fire enchants, etc would be if you had both enchant and alchemy leveled up all the way, did that enchant alchemy cycle i described above a few times, would you be able to eventually build a potent enchant potion (100% increase maybe?) that would produce items equivalent to the ones you can buy'Matthias said:
With looping bugs, you can make ridiculous stuff. There's an explanation here although I've never tried it; not 100% sure that it works.
To what end? Serious question. I am assuming (and hence my comment above) it is so you can sell it and accumulate lots of cash? Otherwise, it seems like an extreme bit of work and a lot of perks that could be better served elsewhere to create that one set of uber armor and weapons. And, take this for what it is worth as I have yet to finish the game, it doesn't really seem that these uber items are going to be anywhere near necessary to finish the game?I guess the one thing I have discounted (and probably shouldn't), I imagine some people just do it because they want to see if they can. And if that is what is fun for them, then more power to them. That really is the key to the game!
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I guess it's all about when you do certain things. I didn't get to High Hrothgar until last night, and I was Level 39...so the Ice Trolls were a push over. Basically two or three shots with my bow and toast.
NCCommish
Footballguy
I was level 10 I think. That thing kicked my butt over and over.
footballnerd
Footballguy
oh ya, you def don't need it to finish the game. Not for cash either, its more of trying it out and seeing the effect of using one of these items. how fast can you take out a draemora, one shotting a troll with a bow, etc. Not necessarily that I'll ever do it if it hinders my character or takes too long, more wondering if it was possible. Totally for experience in the game, same reason that I'll replay as a mage, etc, to see what that's like. very very
haha.Also, I know people like to pick a weapons tree and level it up completely, I'm actually at a point where my two hand hammer is running through enemies (only leveled the base perks twice too, before moving up the tree, could be because my smithing, enchant, alchemy are high), and may forgo finishing that tree to explore more enchantment/alchemy as a level up
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Hawks64
Footballguy
So I have the best bow/sword/hammer/axe/etc and the best armor. I know I did it to a certain extent with the ebony bows I use and the Dragonscale armor I have. So far these bows are armor are better than anything else I have found anywhere to date.
Hawks64
Footballguy
Same thing here, not sure what level I was but I would sneak and snipe. Once he discovered me I would fall back and let Lydia take the brunt of it while I continued to snipe him until he was dead.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Yep - Level 8 here and the Ice Troll ##### slaps the hell out of me every time.
Copeman
Footballguy
Beat that troll last night. Level 11. I sniped him with my bow which didn't have much effect since I rarely use it. Once he got close I used a shout, then I went after him with some fire. After he stopped staggering from the shout, I went crazy with my 2 handed orc hammer or whatever it is. All the while, the lady who is with me was wailing on him. I forget her name (not Lydia).
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ugh, that looks absurd. Fortify Sneak + 100,000%? Weapons that do hundreds of thousands of damage? Why would you want that other than to take screenshots of?'Matthias said:With exploits or without?I haven't gotten that high, but most people seem to like the stuff they've made themselves after they max out 100 at enchanting. But I think that's mostly because they can make the stuff they want instead of it actually being better than the best thing you can find out there. But I think they get close to the stuff you can find. That's not doing any looping bugs.oops, prob should of said get enchanting levels up on items. wondering how high fire enchants, etc would be if you had both enchant and alchemy leveled up all the way, did that enchant alchemy cycle i described above a few times, would you be able to eventually build a potent enchant potion (100% increase maybe?) that would produce items equivalent to the ones you can buy'Matthias said:
With looping bugs, you can make ridiculous stuff. There's an explanation here although I've never tried it; not 100% sure that it works.
TexanFan02
Footballguy
My character Offdee will only wear fine clothes and try to get his talk up to 100% ASAP.
So the answer is, because you wanted too! Best reason there is as far as I'm concerned!!!
I reread my post and realize it may have sounded negative. Just want to point out, in case anyone felt that way, I didn't intend for it to sound snarky or anything. I just really wanted to know. I thought maybe some folks did it to sell stuff for absurd amount to try and amass a million gold or something. So I was honestly just wondering.Can you use the console to add dialog options like "Pfffft, six at best."
TexanFan02
Footballguy
Lydia's going to be disappointed to find out she's only a 5.5.
Kirby
Footballguy
9: The hottest girl in Markarth, The hottest girl in the Reach, etc (more locally amazing) Even let me wear a dragon priest mask to the wedding... and lol at crotch shot guy in teh second pew.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
my character WikkitPissuh will be named M'aiq. nuffsed
Oh, forgot to mention, I did encounter a fairly funny glitch yesterday. Wish I had a way of recording it. I have heard about flying mammoths and horses and all kinds of strange happenings but really haven't seen any of that yet. I was exploring and found another Dragon Lair. So I get in close, fire off the first snipe arrow followed by a Marked for Death shout as always. Blood Dragon is about half dead already. Comes around and I hit it with another arrow or two, it flies off. I keep waiting for it to come around for the next pass as I can hear it, but it never appears. So I start tracking the red dot. I come to the edge of a huge drop off and see the Dragon overhead, stuck in a perpetual spiral. It is just spinning like it is stuck in an invisible whirlpool. My arrows can't reach it, so I try the shout that is the huge fireball. I hit it and get it down to just a sliver of life. Unfortunately, that knocks it upwards even further. I tried firebolt spells, shouts, anything and everything. As I watch, I realize it is slowly sprialing up, getting smaller and smaller. Now completely out of range, I have no choice but to reload. At least I had been smart enough to save right before going in to battle.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Can someone explain this in more detal? I noticed the charge differeance but what do you mean about the damage?
When you enchant a weapon, sometimes upon choosing an enchantment (like fire damage for instance), the next screen will give you a slide where you can select how much damage the enchantment will do upon striking. It might range from say 1 to 15. If you choose the 15 points of damage, each strike will cost more of the "charge" on the weapon. If you lower it to 10 damage, each strike will drain the weapon less, at the cost of less damage.The key is when the strength of the charge doesn't matter. In the case of a bow with soul trap for instance. You don't need 5 seconds of soul trap as the arrow makes the kill instantly. So you can lower the slider to only one second, and the bow will lose much less of it's charge each time you fire.
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Well, I definitely think I can avoid it. All the alchemy talk got me thinking about how I've been storing all my ingredients in my house in Whiterun. So I took a few minutes to load all my ingredients in to that Alchemy Planner site. I can make 155 items worth 46000g.
Given that I got bored with alchemy a long time ago, I'd be surprised if my alchemy level is out of the 40s. So I figure I can just sit there and make these potions, wearing a few pieces I hung on too (Krosis for an extra 20% to alchemy, gauntlets for the same), and level that skill up enough to get that last level I want. If not, I can use the trainer at the Companion's place to get another 5 levels of block, which is useful to me as a one handed sword plus shield guy as a backup to my bow. In fact, I'll probably take that training even if I do level up. Actually, I guess I should take that training first since I'd be able to train again once the alchemy gives me another level up.Anyways, alchemy isn't exactly the bees knees. But it beats the hell out of spending an hour beating a guy over the head with a rusty old mace! So sorry old man, but your soul is about to be handed over to a bad, bad Daedra.
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Instinctive
Footballguy
No offense, but I don't know how you all had trouble with the troll on High Hrothgar path. I have trouble with just about every enemy, and I sniped him twice with my Flawless Elven Bow of Scorching and then he didn't even make it to me (or Lydia!!!) before I had brought him down with arrows.
footballnerd
Footballguy
finally was able to get around to going after the flute and the drum from the Bards questline and was also able to turn it in. The rewards are pretty awesome, you get free training in like 6 skills for each one, just wish I could cash in the damn lute thing which is still not responding.
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crush304
Footballguy
trolls don't like fire
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