Mrs. Rannous
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Not "Take This Job and Shove it"?
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krista4
Footballguy
OK, mine is like 7-1/2. Big for a woman, so that I find it hard to get a good fit. 
I had a call with someone today who was sent by the jerk face (who is actually a very nice person) to keep me engaged and get me excited to sign on. She told me midway through that that was why the call was scheduled! I have definitely had lots of moments of wanting to say "you need me more than I need you." But I don't want to act on emotion or out of spite. I love the people I work with and, after 9+ years, don't feel like getting to know a new company, group, etc. if I don't have to.
Zegras11
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I'm so dense that I didn't realize why we were talking about hats. Took me a good deal of time to catch on.
I hope it grows back, k4.
I hope it grows back, k4.
Zegras11
Footballguy
jwb
Footballguy
Wow, that's some story. Awful and awesome at the same time.
I can relate some (not the being a lawyer or having people offer to take pay cuts to keep you around parts). But I am self employed, and have been for 20+ years. I totally get the non-corporate/freedom aspect of it. And being good at your job too - you can't fake it and survive working like this.
Man, the work you put into these threads is more than most people do in a day. They are ridiculously lucky to have you, and hopefully still have you. I hope the offer is fair.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Natural mistake; there are a lot of five-year-olds that hang out in this forum.I thought you were a kindergarten teacher...I've put together nine lists of data, and I think the trends are interesting. But before I do the tenth, I need to take a break to vent. We used to do that with each other, right? Sorry for diversion, and those of you who read my posts, which is none of you, could just skip this.
Remember, if you read my posts in the last countdown, which you didn't, that I mentioned have something really ****ty happening in my life? Here's the shortest version I can muster, copying some of my own email to someone here several weeks ago:
I've been in a secondment to a company since October 2013, meaning I spend 100% of my time working for them, but they aren't my employer. I very purposefully got out of the rat race in 2013, so this is a good situation where I can add value without getting enmeshed in corporate ********, since I'm not actually an employee of the company, and I don’t have to have a “boss.”
I AM REALLY ****ING GOOD AT MY JOB.
It's the one thing I am completely confident in, that I know I do my job better than...well, anyone else I deal with.
Last quarter, this company reported way-below-expectations earnings. They have also had increased ownership from a famous investor. All of that combined to result in a desire for a big cut in the G&A line of their budget.
You see where I'm going?
On October 31 (Monday afternoon) I got a meeting request from the head of the group I work within, entitled "Quick check-in" and scheduled for 15 minutes on Tuesday morning. I haven't talked to him one-on-one in...five years? More? Weird. I got on the phone Tuesday morning, and he told me that they are cutting their "outside counsel" spend by 80% because deal flow is slowing. And despite my being told I was part of the "team" and being treated as a "teammate" for 9+ years, I was basically a line-item on a spreadsheet somewhere that said "guest teammate - outside counsel," and was too expensive to keep.
Nine years. Zero warning or idea it was coming. And, dare I say (and not a single person in the group would disagree), by far the most productive member of their "team." But I am also by far the most expensive person they have, in large part due to my actual employer’s cut on top of my salary.
We have a team meeting every other Tuesday, and that week it came about two hours after this news. He told me I could skip the meeting or join, and I said I'd be fine to attend as usual.
He broke the news to the team. Silence. Dead silence. He asked once or twice for any thoughts. Dead silence. Then, one of the paralegals spoke up and demanded a meeting with him right away. Then, more dead silence.
I've written this in such dramatic fashion that I think the rest is going to seem even more over-dramatized. But...it's been chaos. There was a revolt. Outrage. It seems an overstatement, but it isn't. Every single person on our team (12-13?) reached out in one form or another to protest. The business team that I work with did the same. Even people whom I work with more tangentially did this! I received so much support that it's amazing. The head of the group said that he had never seen anything like it in his 30 years of experience. I got the most amazing emails and phone calls. I heard from business people that I am, "far and away the best lawyer I've ever known." I heard from another lawyer in a different group that I am their "favorite lawyer of all time." I heard from five people directly that they cried over my departure. One of the paralegals told the dude in charge he should do away with xx lawyer instead. Another paralegal said he should do away with the same xx lawyer but also the first paralegal instead. Frankly they're right as I do both those people's jobs in addition to my own.
But wait...this is the thing that made me actually break down in tears and was so crazy. I learned that almost everyone on our team reached out and offered to take a PAY CUT to keep me. Seriously. Have you ever known something like that? I haven't, and the dude in charge hadn't either. He was blown away.
That all started November 1. My current status? Still in flux, except that they have been working on a package to offer me to come work directly for them, because the head of the group has been getting daily reminders from people that "he's an idiot" (he's told me this). First they had to negotiate with my actual employer, to which they owed a fee of 50% of my salary to "poach" me. Wha??? Insane. Apparently they've negotiated that down to 10%. Then they've had to go through all the corporate hurdles to put together the position description.
And then today? I got to "apply for" my job. It's all a formality, but they have to post the job officially for several days before they can make an offer to me. But I had to fill in the online form and crap like that so that HR has a record of my application.
I don't really like the idea of being in the corporate world officially again, but it would give me more security. And I like the idea of being 100% part of a team again. And managing people again, which was always the part I loved/hated most. We'll see what the package looks like. And in the midst of all this I was vowing to make a bunch of charitable contributions here that had me kinda bummed as I was simultaneously canceling my lawn guy and canceling a vacation just in case.
Anyway, I've been a lawyer for more years than I'd like to admit, and not once during that time have I ever had any inkling that I was less than spectacular at my job. This was the same - it is completely money and it appears they can afford me internally but not as external counsel - but it was just crushing to me to feel like I was in any sense "not worth it." I've poured my heart and soul and sweat and a few tears into this job as I always do. I know that's acknowledged, but it really shook me to my core for a while. And, not exaggerating, my hair started falling out. Holy ****.
TLDR - I could lose my job, and I need hats.
You have officially upped my opinion of lawyers a notch, or two.
Chaos34
Footballguy
I've put together nine lists of data, and I think the trends are interesting. But before I do the tenth, I need to take a break to vent. We used to do that with each other, right? Sorry for diversion, and those of you who read my posts, which is none of you, could just skip this.
Remember, if you read my posts in the last countdown, which you didn't, that I mentioned have something really ****ty happening in my life? Here's the shortest version I can muster, copying some of my own email to someone here several weeks ago:
I've been in a secondment to a company since October 2013, meaning I spend 100% of my time working for them, but they aren't my employer. I very purposefully got out of the rat race in 2013, so this is a good situation where I can add value without getting enmeshed in corporate ********, since I'm not actually an employee of the company, and I don’t have to have a “boss.”
I AM REALLY ****ING GOOD AT MY JOB.
It's the one thing I am completely confident in, that I know I do my job better than...well, anyone else I deal with.
Last quarter, this company reported way-below-expectations earnings. They have also had increased ownership from a famous investor. All of that combined to result in a desire for a big cut in the G&A line of their budget.
You see where I'm going?
On October 31 (Monday afternoon) I got a meeting request from the head of the group I work within, entitled "Quick check-in" and scheduled for 15 minutes on Tuesday morning. I haven't talked to him one-on-one in...five years? More? Weird. I got on the phone Tuesday morning, and he told me that they are cutting their "outside counsel" spend by 80% because deal flow is slowing. And despite my being told I was part of the "team" and being treated as a "teammate" for 9+ years, I was basically a line-item on a spreadsheet somewhere that said "guest teammate - outside counsel," and was too expensive to keep.
Nine years. Zero warning or idea it was coming. And, dare I say (and not a single person in the group would disagree), by far the most productive member of their "team." But I am also by far the most expensive person they have, in large part due to my actual employer’s cut on top of my salary.
We have a team meeting every other Tuesday, and that week it came about two hours after this news. He told me I could skip the meeting or join, and I said I'd be fine to attend as usual.
He broke the news to the team. Silence. Dead silence. He asked once or twice for any thoughts. Dead silence. Then, one of the paralegals spoke up and demanded a meeting with him right away. Then, more dead silence.
I've written this in such dramatic fashion that I think the rest is going to seem even more over-dramatized. But...it's been chaos. There was a revolt. Outrage. It seems an overstatement, but it isn't. Every single person on our team (12-13?) reached out in one form or another to protest. The business team that I work with did the same. Even people whom I work with more tangentially did this! I received so much support that it's amazing. The head of the group said that he had never seen anything like it in his 30 years of experience. I got the most amazing emails and phone calls. I heard from business people that I am, "far and away the best lawyer I've ever known." I heard from another lawyer in a different group that I am their "favorite lawyer of all time." I heard from five people directly that they cried over my departure. One of the paralegals told the dude in charge he should do away with xx lawyer instead. Another paralegal said he should do away with the same xx lawyer but also the first paralegal instead. Frankly they're right as I do both those people's jobs in addition to my own.
But wait...this is the thing that made me actually break down in tears and was so crazy. I learned that almost everyone on our team reached out and offered to take a PAY CUT to keep me. Seriously. Have you ever known something like that? I haven't, and the dude in charge hadn't either. He was blown away.
That all started November 1. My current status? Still in flux, except that they have been working on a package to offer me to come work directly for them, because the head of the group has been getting daily reminders from people that "he's an idiot" (he's told me this). First they had to negotiate with my actual employer, to which they owed a fee of 50% of my salary to "poach" me. Wha??? Insane. Apparently they've negotiated that down to 10%. Then they've had to go through all the corporate hurdles to put together the position description.
And then today? I got to "apply for" my job. It's all a formality, but they have to post the job officially for several days before they can make an offer to me. But I had to fill in the online form and crap like that so that HR has a record of my application.
I don't really like the idea of being in the corporate world officially again, but it would give me more security. And I like the idea of being 100% part of a team again. And managing people again, which was always the part I loved/hated most. We'll see what the package looks like. And in the midst of all this I was vowing to make a bunch of charitable contributions here that had me kinda bummed as I was simultaneously canceling my lawn guy and canceling a vacation just in case.
Anyway, I've been a lawyer for more years than I'd like to admit, and not once during that time have I ever had any inkling that I was less than spectacular at my job. This was the same - it is completely money and it appears they can afford me internally but not as external counsel - but it was just crushing to me to feel like I was in any sense "not worth it." I've poured my heart and soul and sweat and a few tears into this job as I always do. I know that's acknowledged, but it really shook me to my core for a while. And, not exaggerating, my hair started falling out. Holy ****.
TLDR - I could lose my job, and I need hats.
Wow. I just got to my sister's in LA. They're sleeping. I read this. I didn't know if I should give it a heart or a cry. No options seemed right. So I gave it both... and rescinded them.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Yup.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Hopefully this resolves quickly or you may not be able to purchase another house in 2023.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
This was very much on the lines of what I was thinking while reading it. You put it much better than I would have, so I will just quote you.
Wish you all the best, @krista4 hope it all works for the best in the end!
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Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Come on, Doc. Let's at least TRY to be real here
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
On the positive side it looks like people are finally reading your posts.
krista4
Footballguy
On a serious note, this happened two weeks after I “upgraded” to the one I’m in. That did not help with the stress. Oh, and later the same day is when Squibby had to be rushed to the emergency vet.
Tau837
Footballguy
I was offline earlier than usual last night so just catching up. It was obviously stressful for you to go through, but it seems like it was super positive overall given that you got to experience firsthand how much you mean to the people on the team and beyond, which wouldn't have happened if not for the stressful part. As others have said, I'm not surprised at all by the reaction given how you interact with us here.
As a VP in a multi-billion dollar company, I am intimately familiar with the downsides of corporate BS, but I find that it is really about people. If you work with good people, the BS is tolerable. Sounds like you are a good person working with other good people who value you greatly, so I expect you will be fine.
Tau837
Footballguy
I'm in this club, too. I don't know my hat size, but it's big. Almost 20 years ago, I went to a game at Coors Field with a friend who was a baseball player. He paid for us to take 10 pitches each in the batting cage in the concourse. To do it, you had to put on a helmet, and they had 4 sizes. The biggest one would not fit on my head.
simey
Footballguy
Dear Big Head,
You know your self-worth, and you don't need anyone or anything to confirm it. Your light shines bright. Don't let anyone dim it. Shine on, Sister.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Also part the big head crew as well. Rare to find a cap that fits,and I wear one 90% if the time.
Found a Mariners one that fits finally, and I ordered 8 more right away.
Found a Mariners one that fits finally, and I ordered 8 more right away.
Westerberg
Footballguy
Eight?Also part the big head crew as well. Rare to find a cap that fits,and I wear one 90% if the time.
Found a Mariners one that fits finally, and I ordered 8 more right away.
DrIanMalcolm
Footballguy
Good grief, I think we need to change the title of this thread. I refuse to wear baseball caps, because of how ridiculously awful I look with them on.
I'm in this club, too. I don't know my hat size, but it's big. Almost 20 years ago, I went to a game at Coors Field with a friend who was a baseball player. He paid for us to take 10 pitches each in the batting cage in the concourse. To do it, you had to put on a helmet, and they had 4 sizes. The biggest one would not fit on my head.
I'm not all that tall - 5'8" and I might be being generous. But I clock in at a 7 3/8 hat size as well, which is large too. When my son was born they were concerned about the size of his skull and my wife just said, "Have you seen his father?"
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Lol. A bit overkill.Eight?Also part the big head crew as well. Rare to find a cap that fits,and I wear one 90% if the time.
Found a Mariners one that fits finally, and I ordered 8 more right away.
I had a Partiots hat I wore for waaaay too long because it was the only one I found that fit. I guess I didn't want to risk that again, and they were on sale.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
look at all the big heads in here.
I hadnt spent a ton of time on my list until this morning and one big difference I see for me is in the US one I kind of knew which song from an artist was my favorite. So artists that I really like have 1, maybe 2 songs that were in the running. Already in this new one I have number of artists that I have multiple songs to try and choose from and I love all of them. I briefly considered going against my one per artist rule but don't think 2 will make much difference so will try to stick to that self-imposed limit.
I'm going to be leaving many songs I love on the cutting room floor.
I'm going to be leaving many songs I love on the cutting room floor.
Eephus
Footballguy
I'm late in on krista's work tale. Keep faith in yourself and don't let professional stuff drag you down.
Yesterday was the fourth anniversary of my retirement after I turning down a relocation to Northern Virginia. I miss some of the people but the work seems like it happened in another lifetime. With everything that happened in 2020-present, I have zero regrets about my decision.
Yesterday was the fourth anniversary of my retirement after I turning down a relocation to Northern Virginia. I miss some of the people but the work seems like it happened in another lifetime. With everything that happened in 2020-present, I have zero regrets about my decision.
Westerberg
Footballguy
Haha, it's all good. Just jumped out at me.Lol. A bit overkill.Eight?Also part the big head crew as well. Rare to find a cap that fits,and I wear one 90% if the time.
Found a Mariners one that fits finally, and I ordered 8 more right away.
I had a Partiots hat I wore for waaaay too long because it was the only one I found that fit. I guess I didn't want to risk that again, and they were on sale.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Why are we Mt Rushmore?
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
This. Please, PLEASE tell me they are Billy Joel fans. Waste will be laid........
New Binky the Doormat
Footballguy
...from the J. Peterman catalog.
krista4
Footballguy
I knew what it would be! That kid is the little brother of one of OH's closest friends. We yell "heeed" around the house a lot.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
He knows Steve Albini AND that guy? What a world…
krista4
Footballguy
Through 10 lists tabulated:
ARTISTS!
This countdown is insanely more compacted than the US one. I think a few people commented that they had fewer artists they wanted here, but more songs per artist, and you are not alone.
As evidence:
With 35.71 lists (hi KP!) in the first countdown, in total we had only two artists reach more than 400 points by the end of the countdown.
With only 10 lists compiled so far, we have one artist with nearly 350 points and two closing in on 300 points.
Our Big Three each have made nine of 10 lists. We have another artist that also has made nine of 10 lists – and has moved into the #4 slot as a result - and another that has shown up on eight but is lagging in 8th place.
The “when we love them we really love them” artist previously mentioned still has only shown up on five ballots, but with enough support to sit in fifth place.
There is a clear second tier forming now of seven artists currently holding 122-197 points. The next artist down from there has fewer than 100 points, including one surprising underachiever.
SONGS!
Our current top artist has 15 votes for 11 different songs, while the new #2 has 13 votes for ten different songs. Neither of these artists holds the current #1 song ranking, which goes to the #3 artist and their five votes for one individual song. It's surprising to me that one of our Big Three would have a concentration of votes on any song, as I expected all three to be more dispersed in the song rankings.
As reported yesterday, we already had a Menage FaLaLa Trois, while we didn’t have one in the US countdown until 25+ lists in. We also have numerous duplicates and some Deja Votes. Like the artists, the number of songs selected seem to be fewer overall.
There is a new leader for our Ace Award (most points for an artist with only one song taken), but I expect this artist to get more songs selected. Then again, I would have said the same for Cheap Trick.
ARTISTS!
This countdown is insanely more compacted than the US one. I think a few people commented that they had fewer artists they wanted here, but more songs per artist, and you are not alone.
As evidence:
With 35.71 lists (hi KP!) in the first countdown, in total we had only two artists reach more than 400 points by the end of the countdown.
With only 10 lists compiled so far, we have one artist with nearly 350 points and two closing in on 300 points.
Our Big Three each have made nine of 10 lists. We have another artist that also has made nine of 10 lists – and has moved into the #4 slot as a result - and another that has shown up on eight but is lagging in 8th place.
The “when we love them we really love them” artist previously mentioned still has only shown up on five ballots, but with enough support to sit in fifth place.
There is a clear second tier forming now of seven artists currently holding 122-197 points. The next artist down from there has fewer than 100 points, including one surprising underachiever.
SONGS!
Our current top artist has 15 votes for 11 different songs, while the new #2 has 13 votes for ten different songs. Neither of these artists holds the current #1 song ranking, which goes to the #3 artist and their five votes for one individual song. It's surprising to me that one of our Big Three would have a concentration of votes on any song, as I expected all three to be more dispersed in the song rankings.
As reported yesterday, we already had a Menage FaLaLa Trois, while we didn’t have one in the US countdown until 25+ lists in. We also have numerous duplicates and some Deja Votes. Like the artists, the number of songs selected seem to be fewer overall.
There is a new leader for our Ace Award (most points for an artist with only one song taken), but I expect this artist to get more songs selected. Then again, I would have said the same for Cheap Trick.
Manster
Footballguy
I remember you talking about that in another thread. I'm super jealous that OH has a personal connection to HEED!!! One of my favorite movies. I'm a huge Mike Myers fan.
Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
*Non Related Big Head talk*
So my initial list/Spotify mix (it's called "Bangers and Mash" which I find it hilarious - my wife is not impressed) has 161 songs on it from 91 different artists. So I have a lot of work ahead of me. Now some of them are from artists I just threw in there because I sort of like them and some i know (from reading the front page) are ineligible like Scritti Politti. 31 is a ****e number probably picked by someone with a tiny head.
So my initial list/Spotify mix (it's called "Bangers and Mash" which I find it hilarious - my wife is not impressed) has 161 songs on it from 91 different artists. So I have a lot of work ahead of me. Now some of them are from artists I just threw in there because I sort of like them and some i know (from reading the front page) are ineligible like Scritti Politti. 31 is a ****e number probably picked by someone with a tiny head.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
In the last countdown, at the end people were curious about with which other posters they had the most common selections. So I've started compiling a separate document to track this, under the title of "why don't you just get a room?". Is this information in which you guys would be interested? For instance, the first one I've put together today is for @Pip's Invitation. His best matches currently* are:
Common artists: @simey (14), @worrierking (13), @New Binky the Doormat (12)
Common songs: @Don Quixote (4), @New Binky the Doormat (3), four people tied with 2
*Only counting the first 10 lists I've input.
Common artists: @simey (14), @worrierking (13), @New Binky the Doormat (12)
Common songs: @Don Quixote (4), @New Binky the Doormat (3), four people tied with 2
*Only counting the first 10 lists I've input.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Nobody looks at...the cover.
...from the J. Peterman catalog.
Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
It does now!
New Binky the Doormat
Footballguy
I knew that guy was cool.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
List submitted. While listening today as I was copying Youtube links to put in the post, I kept wanting to move songs up, but there was nowhere to go.
I chose 31 different artists and left some very big names out, which I was surprised based on what my initial list looked like. This includes The Who, Clapton, Lennon, McCartney, Them, The Clash, Small Faces, and Dire Straits.
I chose 31 different artists and left some very big names out, which I was surprised based on what my initial list looked like. This includes The Who, Clapton, Lennon, McCartney, Them, The Clash, Small Faces, and Dire Straits.
MAC_32
Footballguy
The Who made mine, but no one else did - I shut out all solo Beatles (sorry, Ringo).
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I blame the calendar makers.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It’s not the size that matters it’s the notion in the ocean - or something like that.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
And I'm down to 47 candidates. This is really tough.
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