madshot31
Footballguy
Really, wow, never would have known that just from playing it. Nvm then.
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Greatest Video Game Draft 2011 (2 Viewers)
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Insein
Footballguy
Oregon trail is one of the first strategy simulations. You have to manage your supplies and keep track of your party's health while deciding which path to take to get to the destination. Definitely strategy/sim.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Also, aside from the unpicked guy, I was stunned that Simon Belmont fell so far. This may be skirting the rules a bit by posting about the category that I'm judging, but that's a great pick. Obviously the judges will be a bit biased towards the games that they played and enjoyed, but when I think of Castlevania, I think of Simon Belmont. I know there's been other characters since, and perhaps that's why he fell into the 19th round, but I love that pick. I'm surprised he didn't go earlier.
madshot31
Footballguy
Its working for me. I usually can't access it in firefox for some reason and have to dig up IE if I want to go to xbox.com.
Insein
Footballguy
No real rule against discussing your category. Just personal preference.
SlaX
Footballguy
I got it to come up in Chrome. I couldn't get it to come up in Firefox or IE.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Also, I would've loved a Gears invite last night....but that's the problem with only knowing like 3 people who still play...
madshot31
Footballguy
I actually haven't played Gears in 1-2 weeks or so. Whenever I have been on I have played a few arcade games I own or the co-op game Barley and I have been playing through again.
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SlaX
Footballguy
They're releasing a Gears triple pack next month that includes both Gears games and all the maps and DLC. I may pick it up to finally own. Or I may just wait for Gears 3. We'll see.
rikishiboy
Footballguy
I am going to bed....I sent my next pick to Madshot. If it is taken please skip me.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
####### classic
wazoo11
Footballguy
Every time, Some one mentions GH, I just have to listen to my brother.." Metallica's "One" is so hard! How do you defeat it on expert?" I'm like wait until you get to Raining Blood.21.5 Guitar Hero 3-PS 3- 7th GenerationLearn how to play real guitar on a fun game. For realzreordered:
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SlaX
Footballguy
I call that song "Raining Skittles". It's a good song, but GH has made me almost hate it.Every time, Some one mentions GH, I just have to listen to my brother.." Metallica's one is so hard! How do you defeat it on expert?" I'm like wait until you get to Raining Blood.21.5 Guitar Hero 3-PS 3- 7th GenerationLearn how to play real guitar on a fun game. For realz
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Steal of the mother####ing draft
SlaX
Footballguy
Crap. Rewriting my writeup for my next pick.
AcerFC
Footballguy
lolz. Thought about taking him a while ago but I never played the game so it was out
Insein
Footballguy
Damn. Didn't notice he was still there. Thats a big duh. He's top 5, IMO even though I can't touch the games anymore because of the multiplayer.
bmarks6161
Footballguy
hah I did not know it was my turn
21.8 Planetscape Torment - PC - Best Story
21.8 Planetscape Torment - PC - Best Story
SlaX
Footballguy
madshot already took it. try again.
bmarks6161
Footballguy
i did too
SlaX
Footballguy
I've been waiting on one person to paste this pick for 30 minutes and my wife has been waiting on me to go. And it was actually 2 people ahead of me. :( Don't tell my wife.I'll just post it when I get back. Or leave it with one of you.
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madshot31
Footballguy
Master Cheif is overrated and I like the campaigns.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I'll leave the bulk of my comments until I actually judge things, but Master Chief is THE quintessential video game character of our generation, bar none. I know you and I are pretty much the same age. You can make the argument that the character development isn't there or whatever, but Master Chief is the face of what is probably the most important/influential console* video game series of the past decade. When you say Xbox/Xbox 360, the image that immediately comes to mind for me is Master Chief in full-gear. Halo is the defining video game series for Xbox, and Master Chief is the face of it all. Hell, the series essentially spawned an entire professional gaming league based around it.And this is coming from someone who's never owned anything in the Halo series and has only played the multiplayer sparingly with friends.* console being an operative word here....Warcraft, Starcraft, etc. aside.
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Time Kibitzer
Footballguy
Nathan Drake > Master Chief
Insein
Footballguy
Not a chance.
SlaX
Footballguy
I already deleted my Master Chief writeup, but basically, this is the gist of it. I was looking for a character in the Main Character genre that people identified with video games. Pac-Man does that. Master Chief does that. People outside of video games don't know who Nathan Drake is. I'm not a Halo fan and most people can tell you that, but he is about the only character left that is synonymous with gaming.
madshot31
Footballguy
I understand what you guys are saying. Its just I look beyond the publicity for quality character development in my characters and Master Chief doesn't have ####.
SlaX
Footballguy
I agree with your original sentiment. Master Chief is overrated. I'd pick Gordon Freeman a million times over Master Chief and it wouldn't be close. And and I could even show you how in internet tournaments, Gordon Freeman has won even over the likes of Link, Mario, Kratos and Master Chief. But unfortunately, no one outside of gaming has probably heard of Gordon Freeman (yes, I would've taken Gordon before Pac Man. Don't think I wouldn't have).
But that doesn't take away the fact that he IS a video game icon. Regardless of what you and I think about him.
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bmarks6161
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I think that looking strongly at character development as the defining factor in figuring out the "best main character" in video game history is a little simplistic, though. I understand what you're getting at, but I think that for this category, it's important to recognize that a handful of video game characters throughout history have literally transcended the video game world and become pop culture icons. That's what separate characters like Mario from the rest. There is very little character development for the Mario character, but Mario is literally a pop culture icon. Master Chief isn't at Mario's level, but there's little doubt in my mind that he's a pop culture icon in the same way that Mario is.
Insein
Footballguy
Slax is still here but I do have his pick.
madshot, please move Battlefield 2 to Flex. Thanks.
21.09 Counter-Strike: Source, PC, First-Person Shooter
Counter-Strike was originally developed as a Half-Life mod by Minh "Gooseman" Le and Jess Cliffe. The game quickly gained a following in the mod community and those at Valve took notice and purchased the game, making it a full-fledged retail game. Counter-Strike quickly became the most popular and top played first-person shooter game in the world.
After release of Half-Life 2 and the Source engine, Counter-Strike was retooled and remade to use the new engine. The original gameplay mechanics are exactly the same and no changes were made other than the game physics. Of course, some maps are different, since Source .bsp (map file) files are different than those using the Quake engine that the original Half-Life and Counter-Strike used.
For those not familiar with the game, Counter-Strike: Source pits a team of counter-terrorists against a team of terrorists in a series of rounds. Each round is won by either completing an objective (such as detonating a bomb or rescuing hostages) or by eliminating all members of the opposing team. Depending on how well you did in the round, you will earn money, which is put toward upgrading and buying weapons and ammunition for later rounds.
Gameplay Footage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJp92sNe_IQ
madshot, please move Battlefield 2 to Flex. Thanks.
21.09 Counter-Strike: Source, PC, First-Person Shooter
Counter-Strike was originally developed as a Half-Life mod by Minh "Gooseman" Le and Jess Cliffe. The game quickly gained a following in the mod community and those at Valve took notice and purchased the game, making it a full-fledged retail game. Counter-Strike quickly became the most popular and top played first-person shooter game in the world.
After release of Half-Life 2 and the Source engine, Counter-Strike was retooled and remade to use the new engine. The original gameplay mechanics are exactly the same and no changes were made other than the game physics. Of course, some maps are different, since Source .bsp (map file) files are different than those using the Quake engine that the original Half-Life and Counter-Strike used.
For those not familiar with the game, Counter-Strike: Source pits a team of counter-terrorists against a team of terrorists in a series of rounds. Each round is won by either completing an objective (such as detonating a bomb or rescuing hostages) or by eliminating all members of the opposing team. Depending on how well you did in the round, you will earn money, which is put toward upgrading and buying weapons and ammunition for later rounds.
Gameplay Footage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJp92sNe_IQ
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
I had this game...it was ridiculously hard...
and I never got anywhere NEAR the final boss, but the web videos I've seen of the final boss make it look like it isn't even possible to beat the final boss without cheating...
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
not that anyone will be surprised... but I'm not a huge fan of the Master Chief pick...
I get why someone would pick him, I just don't think he's that important, and the fact that he has little story or character development, IMO, hurts his value here...
I get why someone would pick him, I just don't think he's that important, and the fact that he has little story or character development, IMO, hurts his value here...
madshot31
Footballguy
Your the judge, so you get the final say on how much you want certain aspects of a character to determine its end value. But for me, Mario, Master Chief, and another high profile characters don't crack my top 10 best characters. I try and remember playing the game and think about what made it great. Does the game make the characters, or do the characters make the game? Everybody does it a different way, but I go by the latter when deciding on my great characters and villains.
wazoo11
Footballguy
He's the franchise cover boy of Microsoft. (And I'm not a fan of Halo,btw.)
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Time Kibitzer
Footballguy
Ignoring the fact that looking strongly at "iconess" as the defining factor in figuring out the "best main character" in video game history is more simplistic than looking strongly at character development imo, but I don't think Master Chief's anywhere near the pop culture icon that Mario is. I'd say close to 100% of the general population knows who Mario is. I'd be surprised if 25% of the general population knows who Master Chief is. I know going by personal experience alone is a very small sample size, but of my buddies who don't play video games, I know if I asked them who Master Chief was they wouldn't have the slightest idea. Master Chief is a video game icon, not a pop culture icon imo, and I think that's a huge difference.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Master Chief is nowhere near Mario in the grand scheme of things, no question. And "iconness" isn't the only factor in judging the best character ever, obviously. I just think that it's important to recognize that there are a select handful of video game characters that are more legendary, if you will, than the rest. Master Chief is one of those characters.
