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Greg Jennings Game Log (1 Viewer)

'Zdravko said:
I watched pretty much every Packers snap up until the bye in week 10. So, just to get this out of the way, don't go telling me: "Do you watch actual football?" and that kind of juvenile stuff that is so pervasive around here.

Now, remember how frustrated Jennings was up until Week 5-6? Remember why? Google it, the news reports should still be there.

He was pissed because he wasn't seeing enough targets for his taste. This is a guy who expects 10 a game. If gets six, he is cranky - and he has the personality to let you know about it. He was also especially pissed because defenses often left him with single coverage to go after Finley, yet Rodgers rarely made use of that. That last part I can personally attest to: I saw it time after time again, Jennings is wide open downfield, Rodgers throws to Finley anyway.

You can argue whether it was due to play design.

You can debate whether Finley will be as dominant or healthy again.

You can argue whether Rodgers won't find a good balance again.

Regardless, just judging by what my own eyes saw and what my common sense dictates, there is no way Jennings comes close to his numbers from last season unless injuries hit again. The Packers are apt to throw the ball as much as Peyton or Brees, but there are just not enough targets to go around. No way Jordy goes away after that SuperBowl. No way 2nd rounder Cobb doesn't get a few. No way Finley is used for blocking. Add to that an improved running game.

FWIW, I trust my own memory and logic, so I am staying away from Jennings unless I can get him in WR2 range.
Driver being another year older and Jones leaving doesnt help? How many targets to you expect Jennings to get this season?

Last year he had 123, the year before 119 and the year before that he had 140. An average of 127 targets per season. i would bet he ends up in that same range again this year. At almost a 60% catch rate and over 16 ypc in each of his seasons, and averaging over 9 TD's per season, i would think he is a safe bet for 75 rec, 1200 yards, and 8 TD's no matter what else the Packers have at WR/TE. Unless you think Nelson or Cobb will take the #1 WR job.

I will prefer him as my WR2 as wel, but you could do worse for your WR1. Which 12 WR's would you rather as your #!?

 
'Go deep said:
Who will have more TDs at the end of next season, Jennings or Finley?
Nelson. Okay, that's admittedly a stretch. But it wouldn't surprise me at all.
If Nelson were capable of leadding the Packers in TD receptions i dont think they would have drafted Cobb. I also think if Nelson were capable of being a good #2 WR he would have taken old man Drivers spot already, or at least eliminated James "butter fingers" Jones.from the picture.
A. I don't think Cobb's drafting had anything to do with Jordy Nelson.B. That old man Driver still has/had some good football left in him.

C. Jones gets a bad rap for the drops because of the timing...but his drop percentage was not all that bad compared to his teammates.

Nelson is easily capable of being a good #2 (maybe not great...but a good #2).
B. Thats what you thought last year, remember this:post 194

Ahh, nevermind, ill bump the thread, just go to the last post.
And Driver did get hurt...and he did play some good football...and Finley came nowhere near to that due to injury.The point was why Nelson did not overtake Driver or why he has not become the #2 yet.

 
'Zdravko said:
Regardless, just judging by what my own eyes saw and what my common sense dictates, there is no way Jennings comes close to his numbers from last season unless injuries hit again. The Packers are apt to throw the ball as much as Peyton or Brees, but there are just not enough targets to go around. No way Jordy goes away after that SuperBowl. No way 2nd rounder Cobb doesn't get a few. No way Finley is used for blocking. Add to that an improved running game. FWIW, I trust my own memory and logic, so I am staying away from Jennings unless I can get him in WR2 range.
:goodposting: would you agree he is the most overrated WR of those ranked in the top 10?
I was never arguing about Jennings stats. I was saying, to claim the fact that he was overrated as a player is Ridiculous and ignorant. His stats may very well go down because of Finley or they may stay the same. Regardless, Jennings is a top Wide receiver in the league, in a fantastic situation. I also dont think anyone was claiming Jennings was an elite athlete either, But you dont need to be elite athletically to be a fantastic player. More than one way to skin a cat folks :thumbup:
 
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'Zdravko said:
I watched pretty much every Packers snap up until the bye in week 10. So, just to get this out of the way, don't go telling me: "Do you watch actual football?" and that kind of juvenile stuff that is so pervasive around here.

Now, remember how frustrated Jennings was up until Week 5-6? Remember why? Google it, the news reports should still be there.

He was pissed because he wasn't seeing enough targets for his taste. This is a guy who expects 10 a game. If gets six, he is cranky - and he has the personality to let you know about it. He was also especially pissed because defenses often left him with single coverage to go after Finley, yet Rodgers rarely made use of that. That last part I can personally attest to: I saw it time after time again, Jennings is wide open downfield, Rodgers throws to Finley anyway.

You can argue whether it was due to play design.

You can debate whether Finley will be as dominant or healthy again.

You can argue whether Rodgers won't find a good balance again.

Regardless, just judging by what my own eyes saw and what my common sense dictates, there is no way Jennings comes close to his numbers from last season unless injuries hit again. The Packers are apt to throw the ball as much as Peyton or Brees, but there are just not enough targets to go around. No way Jordy goes away after that SuperBowl. No way 2nd rounder Cobb doesn't get a few. No way Finley is used for blocking. Add to that an improved running game.

FWIW, I trust my own memory and logic, so I am staying away from Jennings unless I can get him in WR2 range.
Driver being another year older and Jones leaving doesnt help? How many targets to you expect Jennings to get this season?

Last year he had 123, the year before 119 and the year before that he had 140. An average of 127 targets per season. i would bet he ends up in that same range again this year. At almost a 60% catch rate and over 16 ypc in each of his seasons, and averaging over 9 TD's per season, i would think he is a safe bet for 75 rec, 1200 yards, and 8 TD's no matter what else the Packers have at WR/TE. Unless you think Nelson or Cobb will take the #1 WR job.

I will prefer him as my WR2 as wel, but you could do worse for your WR1. Which 12 WR's would you rather as your #!?
Not to fuel up the troll....but I did look up Jennings stats in Weeks 1-5 and they confirmed what my eyes were telling me: Week 1-5: 6.2 targets per game, 45% catch rate.

Week 6-17: 8.5 targets per game, 67% catch rate.

I know, I know. Small sample size. Take it for what you think it's worth.

On the targets distribution: Let's say GB QBs will throw 530 targets. That's just a very small tad under last season, but the schedule should be slightly easier, thus allowing for a few more runs to drain the clock.

RBs accounted for 81 targets. I would bump it up to 90, because the running game as a whole was a disaster during the regular season for Green Bay. Should show improvement and be utilized slightly more. Then let's allow for 25 lost targets to non-entity WRs and TEs like Brett Swain, Tom Crabtree or whoever else is in there randomly. Leaves us with 530 - 90 - 25 = 415 remaining targets.

I am guessing Finley sees 6.5 per game, which would be consistent with his usage in 2010 and the latter half of 2009. That leaves us with about 310 targets to go to the WRs (assume James Jones is gone):

Greg Jennings

Jordy Nelson

Donald Driver

Randall Cobb

From here it all depends on your views on WR workload. Mine is that Driver gets 50, Cobb gets 60, Nelson gets 90, Jennings gets 110. At 60% (which I think is slightly optimistic because it will be mostly long balls), this makes 66 receptions. At 15 yards a pop - almost 1000 yards. Not bad at all, but in my opinion that's not enough to justify WR1 status.

Of course, the second you start tinkering with the workload assumption, you can project Jennings even as a top 5 guy. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

 
I came up with 11 WRs I'd rather have instead of Jennings in redraft, non-PPR:

Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Roddy, Nicks, Fitzgerald, Marshall, Mike Wallace, Dez, Bowe, Reggie Wayne, Britt.

I am guessing a few of those will be hotly contested - Marshall, Britt, Bowe, etc, but I would honestly take them over Jennings without hesitation.

For PPR, it gets even more muddied.

 
I came up with 11 WRs I'd rather have instead of Jennings in redraft, non-PPR:Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Roddy, Nicks, Fitzgerald, Marshall, Mike Wallace, Dez, Bowe, Reggie Wayne, Britt.I am guessing a few of those will be hotly contested - Marshall, Britt, Bowe, etc, but I would honestly take them over Jennings without hesitation.For PPR, it gets even more muddied.
Who's throwing the ball to Britt? Don't agree with Wallace and I believe Wayne's best days are behind him. The others I agree with so I think 8-9 is perfect for Jennings.
 
The problem is that LHucks is confounding fantasy value and NFL value, which just shows his usual bias against any Packers.

It is one thing to say that Jennings targets may suffer and therefore his fantasy points. Okay, we get it.

But he is on record as saying Jennings is over-rated in the NFL none of his arguments remotely support that.

 
The problem is that LHucks is confounding fantasy value and NFL value, which just shows his usual bias against any Packers.It is one thing to say that Jennings targets may suffer and therefore his fantasy points. Okay, we get it.But he is on record as saying Jennings is over-rated in the NFL none of his arguments remotely support that.
To be clear I think he's overrated as both a WR and as a fantasy WR.
 
IMO, definitely not overrated as a real world WR. His record speaks for itself. He is one of the most polished and versatile receivers in the league right now.

Fantasy-wise, very different story.

 
The WRs that I would rather have on my team than Jennings if I were a GM. The list is 23 players deep...and I could probably add 10 more names of players that are of the same caliber.

Andre Johnson

Calvin Johnson

Roddy White

Hakeem Nicks

Mike Wallace

Desean Jackson

Larry Fitzgerald

Dwayne Bowe

Mike Williams(TB)

Vincent Jackson

Brandon Marshall

Dez Bryan

Kenny Britt

Marques Colston

Anquan Boldin

AJ Green

Sidney Rice

Percy Harvin

Steve Smith (Car)

Ocho Cinco

Randy Moss

Greg Jennings is laughably overrated by the fantasy football community.

 
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The WRs that I would rather have on my team than Jennings if I were a GM. The list is 21 players deep.Andre JohnsonCalvin JohnsonRoddy WhiteHakeem NicksMike WallaceDesean JacksonLarry FitzgeraldDwayne BoweMike Williams(TB)Vincent JacksonBrandon MarshallDez BryanKenny BrittMarques ColstonAnquan BoldinAJ GreenSidney RicePercy Harvin Steve Smith (Car)Ocho CincoRandy MossGreg Jennings is laughably overrated by the fantasy football community.
At the risk of asking a question you have already answered, what is it about Jennings game that you dislike so strongly? Route running, hands, ball tracking....?I'm not emotionally invested in this discussion, but from my perspective Jennings seems to be in an analogous position to both Harrison and Wayne in Manning's younger years, from both a talent and situational perspective, as they became the clear #1 WR option for the emerging top QB in the game at that time. Am I off base? Not saying he will put up identical production, just that he has a good opportunity to produce.Like both of those players, he's not the most physically dominant WR, but he seems to be a technician and a student of the game allowing him to be on the same page as Rodgers in his routes and his route adjustments allowing him to gain separation and hence statistical production routinely.You mentioned earlier that you value him as the WR13 for fantasy purposes, but is the distinction between WR13 and say WR8 or WR6 or whatever others have him rated as so clear and significant as to warrant such a strong position?Just wondering what drives the motivation to discredit an obviously productive player that seems to have a lot of good things going for him from both an NFL and FF perspective?
 
At the risk of asking a question you have already answered, what is it about Jennings game that you dislike so strongly? Route running, hands, ball tracking....?
Everything, he is mediocre all around. But because he's the #1 WR on arguably the best passing offense with arguably the best QB, his stats get inflated and then all of a sudden he's a "great WR" according to fantasy geeks.I'm not emotionally invested at all, I just like to point on glaring discrepancies when the "sharks" fail to recognize them.
 
At the risk of asking a question you have already answered, what is it about Jennings game that you dislike so strongly? Route running, hands, ball tracking....?
Everything, he is mediocre all around. But because he's the #1 WR on arguably the best passing offense with arguably the best QB, his stats get inflated and then all of a sudden he's a "great WR" according to fantasy geeks.I'm not emotionally invested at all, I just like to point on glaring discrepancies when the "sharks" fail to recognize them.
Yeah right :)
 
At the risk of asking a question you have already answered, what is it about Jennings game that you dislike so strongly? Route running, hands, ball tracking....?
Everything, he is mediocre all around. But because he's the #1 WR on arguably the best passing offense with arguably the best QB, his stats get inflated and then all of a sudden he's a "great WR" according to fantasy geeks.I'm not emotionally invested at all, I just like to point on glaring discrepancies when the "sharks" fail to recognize them.
Yeah right :)
Great, maybe you can explaing to me how I'm invested in Greg Jennings. :lmao: I'm in no dynasty leagues, could care less about any team outside of the Cardinals.

All I care about is schooling in fantasy football...I'm providing an education here...free of charge.

 
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At the risk of asking a question you have already answered, what is it about Jennings game that you dislike so strongly? Route running, hands, ball tracking....?
Everything, he is mediocre all around. But because he's the #1 WR on arguably the best passing offense with arguably the best QB, his stats get inflated and then all of a sudden he's a "great WR" according to fantasy geeks.I'm not emotionally invested at all, I just like to point on glaring discrepancies when the "sharks" fail to recognize them.
His last 4 years he's had 277 Rec, 4590 yards and 37 TDs for a 69, 1148 and 9 average. Medicore receivers, no matter who the QB is, don't put up those kind of numbers.
 
At the risk of asking a question you have already answered, what is it about Jennings game that you dislike so strongly? Route running, hands, ball tracking....?
Everything, he is mediocre all around. But because he's the #1 WR on arguably the best passing offense with arguably the best QB, his stats get inflated and then all of a sudden he's a "great WR" according to fantasy geeks.I'm not emotionally invested at all, I just like to point on glaring discrepancies when the "sharks" fail to recognize them.
His last 4 years he's had 277 Rec, 4590 yards and 37 TDs for a 69, 1148 and 9 average.
You've just strengthened my argument.

 
Sad to see this trolling is accepted in the Shark Pool as well. :thumbdown:
Say what you will about his methods, but LHUCKS does inspire some thoughtful analysis, even if it doesn't always come from him... straw that stirs the drink
I'm sure this analysis could still take place without a fishing trip from the board's biggest tool.
lhucks says "boo" and dozens of you are tripping over yourselves to "omgpwn" him. He has you guys on a string.
 
The WRs that I would rather have on my team than Jennings if I were a GM. The list is 23 players deep...and I could probably add 10 more names of players that are of the same caliber.Andre JohnsonCalvin JohnsonRoddy WhiteHakeem NicksMike WallaceDesean JacksonLarry FitzgeraldDwayne BoweMike Williams(TB)Vincent JacksonBrandon MarshallDez BryanKenny BrittMarques ColstonAnquan BoldinAJ GreenSidney RicePercy Harvin Steve Smith (Car)Ocho CincoRandy MossGreg Jennings is laughably overrated by the fantasy football community.
And you claim to be adding value?Bumping this back up with such a ridiculously foolish list?AJ Green? Colston and his surgeries? Ocho? Moss? Smith? Wallace? Nicks?Ill stop there for now.Just shows you have to be fishing here.Wow...just wow.
 
At the risk of asking a question you have already answered, what is it about Jennings game that you dislike so strongly? Route running, hands, ball tracking....?
Everything, he is mediocre all around. But because he's the #1 WR on arguably the best passing offense with arguably the best QB, his stats get inflated and then all of a sudden he's a "great WR" according to fantasy geeks.I'm not emotionally invested at all, I just like to point on glaring discrepancies when the "sharks" fail to recognize them.
Again...has to be fishing.How are his hands mediocre? Moves? Route running? Run after the catch?How in any of that is he mediocre?Did you watch the Super Bowl? Have you actually watched the guy play? EVER?He is a great WR according to NFL people all over the place.I doubt many GMs...if any at all...would come close to agreeing with your list.
 
At the risk of asking a question you have already answered, what is it about Jennings game that you dislike so strongly? Route running, hands, ball tracking....?
Everything, he is mediocre all around. But because he's the #1 WR on arguably the best passing offense with arguably the best QB, his stats get inflated and then all of a sudden he's a "great WR" according to fantasy geeks.I'm not emotionally invested at all, I just like to point on glaring discrepancies when the "sharks" fail to recognize them.
Yeah right :)
Great, maybe you can explaing to me how I'm invested in Greg Jennings. :lmao: I'm in no dynasty leagues, could care less about any team outside of the Cardinals.

All I care about is schooling in fantasy football...I'm providing an education here...free of charge.
As usual...the education with is generally to take what you say...and do the exact opposite.
 
Sad to see this trolling is accepted in the Shark Pool as well. :thumbdown:
Say what you will about his methods, but LHUCKS does inspire some thoughtful analysis, even if it doesn't always come from him... straw that stirs the drink
I'm sure this analysis could still take place without a fishing trip from the board's biggest tool.
lhucks says "boo" and dozens of you are tripping over yourselves to "omgpwn" him. He has you guys on a string.
So...he is so starved for attention he thinks its fun to make up ignorant opinions (not namecalling here...just a statement that he is speaking without any real knowledge), in order to get a reaction from people?Im not sure that is any better than being just plain wrong.Id respect a person far more if they would just defend their real opinions whether right or wrong...over someone who gets his jollies by getting reactions from anonymous people on the internet. That is just sad and pitiful.
 
...over someone who gets his jollies by getting reactions from anonymous people on the internet. That is just sad and pitiful.
You're not adding any value to the Greg Jennings discussion with comments like this. As a matter of fact it only derails the conversation.If you don't like my threads I suggest you stay out of them. If you don't like my posts, I suggest you put me on ignore.Please leave the thread unless you want to actually discuss Greg Jennings and not LHUCKS.Thanks.
 
'LHUCKS said:
'sho nuff said:
...over someone who gets his jollies by getting reactions from anonymous people on the internet. That is just sad and pitiful.
You're not adding any value to the Greg Jennings discussion with comments like this. As a matter of fact it only derails the conversation.If you don't like my threads I suggest you stay out of them. If you don't like my posts, I suggest you put me on ignore.Please leave the thread unless you want to actually discuss Greg Jennings and not LHUCKS.Thanks.
I responded to another poster...maybe you should get on him for not adding value... :rolleyes: And its funny that calling someone else a loser is adding value to you huh?Why put you on ignore when its more fun to easily tear apart your opinions and disagree with you?
 
'LHUCKS said:
'sho nuff said:
...over someone who gets his jollies by getting reactions from anonymous people on the internet. That is just sad and pitiful.
You're not adding any value to the Greg Jennings discussion with comments like this. As a matter of fact it only derails the conversation.If you don't like my threads I suggest you stay out of them. If you don't like my posts, I suggest you put me on ignore.Please leave the thread unless you want to actually discuss Greg Jennings and not LHUCKS.Thanks.
'sho nuff said:
How are his hands mediocre? Moves? Route running? Run after the catch?How in any of that is he mediocre?Did you watch the Super Bowl? Have you actually watched the guy play? EVER?He is a great WR according to NFL people all over the place.I doubt many GMs...if any at all...would come close to agreeing with your list.
Greg Jennings is widely known as one of the best route runners in the game. He has tremendous hands, and is a beast running after the catch. Anyone who thinks Jennings lacks moves should see a replay of last year's GB-MIN game, where Jennings literally shook a DB out of his jock at the goalline. The announcers went on and on about the shake & bake move.
 
'LHUCKS said:
'sho nuff said:
...over someone who gets his jollies by getting reactions from anonymous people on the internet. That is just sad and pitiful.
You're not adding any value to the Greg Jennings discussion with comments like this. As a matter of fact it only derails the conversation.If you don't like my threads I suggest you stay out of them. If you don't like my posts, I suggest you put me on ignore.Please leave the thread unless you want to actually discuss Greg Jennings and not LHUCKS.Thanks.
'sho nuff said:
How are his hands mediocre? Moves? Route running? Run after the catch?How in any of that is he mediocre?Did you watch the Super Bowl? Have you actually watched the guy play? EVER?He is a great WR according to NFL people all over the place.I doubt many GMs...if any at all...would come close to agreeing with your list.
Greg Jennings is widely known as one of the best route runners in the game. He has tremendous hands, and is a beast running after the catch. Anyone who thinks Jennings lacks moves should see a replay of last year's GB-MIN game, where Jennings literally shook a DB out of his jock at the goalline. The announcers went on and on about the shake & bake move.
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/33997/power-rankings-top-10-nfl-receivers

1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans

2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals

3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons

4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions

5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts

6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers

7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs

8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles

9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos

10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins

But heck, Lhucks, they are probably bad at recognizing NFL talent and biased homers, right?

 
Sho nuff, why are you letting him bait you? LHucks knows little about football, and to cover that up he goes on these fishing trips.

Stop responding to his nonsense and he will go away.

 
http://espn.go.com/b...0-nfl-receivers

1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans

2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals

3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons

4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions

5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts

6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers

7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs

8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles

9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos

10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins

But heck, Lhucks, they are probably bad at recognizing NFL talent and biased homers, right?
Not sure i trust a list that doesnt have Calvin 1st and has Lloyd in the top 10.
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/33997/power-rankings-top-10-nfl-receivers1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins But heck, Lhucks, they are probably bad at recognizing NFL talent and biased homers, right?
I disagree with the experts all the time. I said the Titans were moron for drafting Chris Henry as high as they did. LHUCKS 1 Experts 0I said AJ Hawk was overrated coming into the draft, pretty much everybody in the world disagreed with me. LHUCKS 2 Experts 0The point is this, it's okay to disagree with an "expert." Player evaluation is challenging because nobody is ever always right.
 
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http://espn.go.com/b...0-nfl-receivers

1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans

2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals

3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons

4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions

5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts

6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers

7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs

8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles

9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos

10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins

But heck, Lhucks, they are probably bad at recognizing NFL talent and biased homers, right?
Not sure i trust a list that doesnt have Calvin 1st and has Lloyd in the top 10.
It's a terrible list.
 
Anyone saying that Jennings is an overrated receiver surely has not watched the man play football. He is one of the most talented receivers in the NFL today.

The only question here is how many targets he will get moving forward. The potential departure of Driver and Jones, in my opinion, do not affect things much as long as Finley is healthy and Cobb is good enough to get on the field sooner than later. We will see a lot of sets with Jennings and Jordy out wide, Finley in the slot with Cobb being mixed into the 4 WR sets. This isn't much different than early last year expect that it should be strictly jordy, instead of jordy rotating with Jones.

Will the Packers increase their running game presence with a healthy Grant, Kune, Starks, and Alex Green? Will Cobb steal some downfield targets from Jennings (his specialty)? Will Jordy and Finley eat up some of the short yardage targets that Jennings was seeing last year?

Ultimately I think it will be a situation that will drive fantasy owners nuts. It will be somewhere in between the aweful spread-the-wealth offense that the Saints employ and the these-are-my-go-to-guys offense that the Colts typically employ. In other words, Jennings I see falling somewhere between Wayne and Colston in terms of targets... Finley is more of a wildcard because we have yet to see a big sample size with him on the field. I suspect, as does most everyone here, that he could very well match or exceeed the targets that a Colts TE sees.

 
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At least LHUCKSter has given us something to talk about.

Which is about 100% more than the NFL has provided outside of draft day(s).

keep up the :fishing: It at least provides some diversion, no matter how much the arguement has been :toilet:

 
Anyone saying that Jennings is an overrated receiver surely has not watched the man play football. He is one of the most talented receivers in the NFL today.The only question here is how many targets he will get moving forward. The potential departure of Driver and Jones, in my opinion, do not affect things much as long as Finley is healthy and Cobb is good enough to get on the field sooner than later. We will see a lot of sets with Jennings and Jordy out wide, Finley in the slot with Cobb being mixed into the 4 WR sets. This isn't much different than early last year expect that it should be strictly jordy, instead of jordy rotating with Jones.Will the Packers increase their running game presence with a healthy Grant, Kune, Starks, and Alex Green? Will Cobb steal some downfield targets from Jennings (his specialty)? Will Jordy and Finley eat up some of the short yardage targets that Jennings was seeing last year?Ultimately I think it will be a situation that will drive fantasy owners nuts. It will be somewhere in between the aweful spread-the-wealth offense that the Saints employ and the these-are-my-go-to-guys offense that the Colts typically employ. In other words, Jennings I see falling somewhere between Wayne and Colston in terms of targets... Finley is more of a wildcard because we have yet to see a big sample size with him on the field. I suspect, as does most everyone here, that he could very well match or exceeed the targets that a Colts TE sees.
I think the Colts are a better comparison. I expect Wayne/Clark numbers from Jennings/Finley. Nelson doesnt do much for me, he is just being severly overrated right now because of the SB. The Steelers did a great job of taking the Packers best WR out of the game, and it almost worked as the other GB WR's dropped enough passes to keep the Steelers in it.Randall Cobb looks like a good young WR, but he is only 21 and i dont expect much of a contibution from him on offense over the next year or two. Driver has been the real threat to Jennings targets over the years, but if last year was any indication, those day are all but over.
 
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http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/33997/power-rankings-top-10-nfl-receivers1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins But heck, Lhucks, they are probably bad at recognizing NFL talent and biased homers, right?
I disagree with the experts all the time. I said the Titans were moron for drafting Chris Henry as high as they did. LHUCKS 1 Experts 0I said AJ Hawk was overrated coming into the draft, pretty much everybody in the world disagreed with me. LHUCKS 2 Experts 0The point is this, it's okay to disagree with an "expert." Player evaluation is challenging because nobody is ever always right.
A. What experts were pumping up the Titans on Henry?B. You were dead wrong about Hawk...continue to be dead wrong about him...while also ignoring how dead wrong you have been about Bush and Leinart.C. It seems you are disagreeing with nearly everyone on the face of the earth in calling him overrated as an NFL WR...and you are incorrect.
 
Anyone saying that Jennings is an overrated receiver surely has not watched the man play football. He is one of the most talented receivers in the NFL today.The only question here is how many targets he will get moving forward. The potential departure of Driver and Jones, in my opinion, do not affect things much as long as Finley is healthy and Cobb is good enough to get on the field sooner than later. We will see a lot of sets with Jennings and Jordy out wide, Finley in the slot with Cobb being mixed into the 4 WR sets. This isn't much different than early last year expect that it should be strictly jordy, instead of jordy rotating with Jones.Will the Packers increase their running game presence with a healthy Grant, Kune, Starks, and Alex Green? Will Cobb steal some downfield targets from Jennings (his specialty)? Will Jordy and Finley eat up some of the short yardage targets that Jennings was seeing last year?Ultimately I think it will be a situation that will drive fantasy owners nuts. It will be somewhere in between the aweful spread-the-wealth offense that the Saints employ and the these-are-my-go-to-guys offense that the Colts typically employ. In other words, Jennings I see falling somewhere between Wayne and Colston in terms of targets... Finley is more of a wildcard because we have yet to see a big sample size with him on the field. I suspect, as does most everyone here, that he could very well match or exceeed the targets that a Colts TE sees.
I think the Colts are a better comparison. I expect Wayne/Clark numbers from Jennings/Finley. Nelson doesnt do much for me, he is just being severly overrated right now because of the SB. The Steelers did a great job of taking the Packers best WR out of the game, and it almost worked as the other GB WR's dropped enough passes to keep the Steelers in it.Randall Cobb looks like a good young WR, but he is only 21 and i dont expect much of a contibution from him on offense over the next year or two. Driver has been the real threat to Jennings targets over the years, but if last year was any indication, those day are all but over.
I don't think they really took Jennings out of the game. He did not have the numbers that Nelson had (some of that was from the focus on Jennings...some from losing Driver). But he had 3 of the bigger catches in that game. The TD up the seem...the corner TD he called for and had a great foot drag on...and the 3rd and 10 play in the fourth up the seem.They limited him from a huge catch effort...but 4-64 and 2TDs is a pretty typical Jennings day. He has never been a PPR monster.
 
A. What experts were pumping up the Titans on Henry?B. You were dead wrong about Hawk...continue to be dead wrong about him...while also ignoring how dead wrong you have been about Bush and Leinart.C. It seems you are disagreeing with nearly everyone on the face of the earth in calling him overrated as an NFL WR...and you are incorrect.
A) I don't value your biased opinion regarding Packers players. B) The Titans front office used a high draft pick on Henry.
 
A. What experts were pumping up the Titans on Henry?B. You were dead wrong about Hawk...continue to be dead wrong about him...while also ignoring how dead wrong you have been about Bush and Leinart.C. It seems you are disagreeing with nearly everyone on the face of the earth in calling him overrated as an NFL WR...and you are incorrect.
A) I don't value your biased opinion regarding Packers players. B) The Titans front office used a high draft pick on Henry.
A)...Yup, Im so biased about saying a guy that just won a Super Bowl as the signal caller for the defense, earned a new contract and is a solid starting NFL Middle Linebacker is not the bust of that draft. Hah!!!! How about the numerous other people agree with me and call your premise there...and here of Jennings completely laughable?B)...So, by saying you disagreed with them using that pick on Henry...is saying you disagreed with these experts? Seriously...you list a time you disagreed with how high a guy was picked as some great triumph you had over the experts? Plenty of people disagreed with them on that one.None of which is about Jennings or changes the fact that he is hardly overrated in any way, shape, or form on the NFL level.
 
None of which is about Jennings or changes the fact that he is hardly overrated in any way, shape, or form on the NFL level.
Never said it did.If you read the posts I clearly used those two situations as examples of disagreement with the experts.
 
Anyone saying that Jennings is an overrated receiver surely has not watched the man play football. He is one of the most talented receivers in the NFL today.The only question here is how many targets he will get moving forward. The potential departure of Driver and Jones, in my opinion, do not affect things much as long as Finley is healthy and Cobb is good enough to get on the field sooner than later. We will see a lot of sets with Jennings and Jordy out wide, Finley in the slot with Cobb being mixed into the 4 WR sets. This isn't much different than early last year expect that it should be strictly jordy, instead of jordy rotating with Jones.Will the Packers increase their running game presence with a healthy Grant, Kune, Starks, and Alex Green? Will Cobb steal some downfield targets from Jennings (his specialty)? Will Jordy and Finley eat up some of the short yardage targets that Jennings was seeing last year?Ultimately I think it will be a situation that will drive fantasy owners nuts. It will be somewhere in between the aweful spread-the-wealth offense that the Saints employ and the these-are-my-go-to-guys offense that the Colts typically employ. In other words, Jennings I see falling somewhere between Wayne and Colston in terms of targets... Finley is more of a wildcard because we have yet to see a big sample size with him on the field. I suspect, as does most everyone here, that he could very well match or exceeed the targets that a Colts TE sees.
I think the Colts are a better comparison. I expect Wayne/Clark numbers from Jennings/Finley. Nelson doesnt do much for me, he is just being severly overrated right now because of the SB. The Steelers did a great job of taking the Packers best WR out of the game, and it almost worked as the other GB WR's dropped enough passes to keep the Steelers in it.Randall Cobb looks like a good young WR, but he is only 21 and i dont expect much of a contibution from him on offense over the next year or two. Driver has been the real threat to Jennings targets over the years, but if last year was any indication, those day are all but over.
I don't think they really took Jennings out of the game. He did not have the numbers that Nelson had (some of that was from the focus on Jennings...some from losing Driver). But he had 3 of the bigger catches in that game. The TD up the seem...the corner TD he called for and had a great foot drag on...and the 3rd and 10 play in the fourth up the seem.They limited him from a huge catch effort...but 4-64 and 2TDs is a pretty typical Jennings day. He has never been a PPR monster.
Your right, i didnt mean take him out of the game completely, but he was clearly the focal point of the Steelers defense. Even on the catches he did make, he had defenders all over/around him. One of his receptions in particular, it was down the middle in triple coverage. Granted, the throw from Rodgers had to be perfect, and it was, but it was a great catch, and he even took a big hit and held on. Point being it was clear that a big part of the Steelers plan coming in was to not let Jennings beat them.
 
Anyone saying that Jennings is an overrated receiver surely has not watched the man play football. He is one of the most talented receivers in the NFL today.The only question here is how many targets he will get moving forward. The potential departure of Driver and Jones, in my opinion, do not affect things much as long as Finley is healthy and Cobb is good enough to get on the field sooner than later. We will see a lot of sets with Jennings and Jordy out wide, Finley in the slot with Cobb being mixed into the 4 WR sets. This isn't much different than early last year expect that it should be strictly jordy, instead of jordy rotating with Jones.Will the Packers increase their running game presence with a healthy Grant, Kune, Starks, and Alex Green? Will Cobb steal some downfield targets from Jennings (his specialty)? Will Jordy and Finley eat up some of the short yardage targets that Jennings was seeing last year?Ultimately I think it will be a situation that will drive fantasy owners nuts. It will be somewhere in between the aweful spread-the-wealth offense that the Saints employ and the these-are-my-go-to-guys offense that the Colts typically employ. In other words, Jennings I see falling somewhere between Wayne and Colston in terms of targets... Finley is more of a wildcard because we have yet to see a big sample size with him on the field. I suspect, as does most everyone here, that he could very well match or exceeed the targets that a Colts TE sees.
I think the Colts are a better comparison. I expect Wayne/Clark numbers from Jennings/Finley. Nelson doesnt do much for me, he is just being severly overrated right now because of the SB. The Steelers did a great job of taking the Packers best WR out of the game, and it almost worked as the other GB WR's dropped enough passes to keep the Steelers in it.Randall Cobb looks like a good young WR, but he is only 21 and i dont expect much of a contibution from him on offense over the next year or two. Driver has been the real threat to Jennings targets over the years, but if last year was any indication, those day are all but over.
I don't think they really took Jennings out of the game. He did not have the numbers that Nelson had (some of that was from the focus on Jennings...some from losing Driver). But he had 3 of the bigger catches in that game. The TD up the seem...the corner TD he called for and had a great foot drag on...and the 3rd and 10 play in the fourth up the seem.They limited him from a huge catch effort...but 4-64 and 2TDs is a pretty typical Jennings day. He has never been a PPR monster.
Your right, i didnt mean take him out of the game completely, but he was clearly the focal point of the Steelers defense. Even on the catches he did make, he had defenders all over/around him. One of his receptions in particular, it was down the middle in triple coverage. Granted, the throw from Rodgers had to be perfect, and it was, but it was a great catch, and he even took a big hit and held on. Point being it was clear that a big part of the Steelers plan coming in was to not let Jennings beat them.
Agreed...on the soundFX series on that TD up the middle they were calling it on the sidelines "its going to 85".This is also a great point here...do teams like Pittsburgh try to focus on mediocre WRs in the Super Bowl?
 
None of which is about Jennings or changes the fact that he is hardly overrated in any way, shape, or form on the NFL level.
Never said it did.If you read the posts I clearly used those two situations as examples of disagreement with the experts.
So its ok for you to add no value to the topic of Greg Jennings and just try to talk about you...but if others do it thats bad?
 
You can name 23 more TALENTED WRs than Jennings sure. So can I.

I can not name more than 10 better though.

In fantasy???? Entire different conversation. #1 target for a top 3 QB in a passing offense, and his "down" year in 2009 was still pretty darn good.

I mean 76 grabs for like 1250 yards and 12 TDs last year after starting SLOW the first third of the year.

Aaron Rodgers is not an idiot. He knows he did not go to Jennings enough. Look what happened when he started going to him a lot more.............lots more points and lots more wins.

 
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You can name 23 more TALENTED WRs than Jennings sure. So can I.I can not name more than 10 better though.In fantasy???? Entire different conversation. #1 target for a top 3 QB in a passing offense, and his "down" year in 2009 was still pretty darn good.
what do you make of last year's numbers when Finley started the game(first post)??
 

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