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"Hannibal" the TV show (1 Viewer)
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Kenny Powers
Footballguy
This is interesting. I havent started watching Season 1 yet, but this has me hoping it lasts for this full run. I think if it makes it to Season 4, there would be more buzz about it and a very good chance of going 7 seasons.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
not sure how good the ratings are, just know it was picked up for second season.
you make a good point, I agree...
i'm on second to last episode of first (only so far) season... great TV, some of the best I've seen, maybe not breaking bad or the wire, but fills the programming/content void in their absence... great writing and acting... I wasn't sure about the will graham at first, but now I think his casting was fine...
even the side characters like Abel Gideon are well drawn...
I never really watched X-Files except for maybe a few time (even though I liked supernatural, sci fi or horror series like twilight zone, outer limits, star trek and night stalker)... I completely missed Gillian Anderson as lecter's psychiatrist, my wife had to point it out... I guess I hadn't seen her in a while... maybe her acting chops were better than I credited her with... I thought of her as kind of perky, and in this role she is very reserved, composed and almost serene...
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lecter doesn't seem too averse to will being dead... he knew he was going to the music shop (or sent him?) despite tobias (not funke!) predicting/warning he would kill those sent after him before disappearing (than again, how would you broach THAT subject)... OTOH, maybe it was a case of wanting Tobias dead at all costs, since he knew his identity, and the death of graham being acceptable trade off as collateral damage... if graham were warned, they would almost certainly have been more likely to take Tobias alive, and he could have talked...
but also by conspiring with his neurologist to withhold diagnosis of a brain infection and let graham continue to think his symptoms were caused by mental illness and possible psychotic break (which i guess is why it became necessary ro murder him), he probably intuits graham's conscious mind will eventually figure out what his subconscious is telling him (not sure if graham has shared elk visions with him, but I think so?)...
a lot of people know lecter's dark side, or he has confided in them... he covered up the girl's murder (but than, i think she figured out he had called her father hobbs, leading to what must be for him an uneasy, potentially treacherous alliance - a tightrope for writers), tobias, gideon, the woman in the great cotard's syndrome episode which connected a few running narrative strands (including dr. chilton)...
I wonder if how they depicted the POV when lecter appeared faceless to the cotard syndrome sufferer is how your perceptions would really be presented to you... I hadn't thought about it, but if I did, it would seem you would see a coherent face, but not recognize it?
but it was a cool attempt to represent what such a person's experience might be like... she didn't see a face at all, but lecter had no way of knowing to what degree, or if she might be capable of reconstructing a retroactive memory... thus the hyperbaric chamber prepped for unwitting self immolation...
graham is a tailor made patsy for lecter to frame with his dissociative condition...
I agree this is as dark a subject matter as I've seen on network TV... much more so than gilligan's island or the brady bunch...
you make a good point, I agree...
i'm on second to last episode of first (only so far) season... great TV, some of the best I've seen, maybe not breaking bad or the wire, but fills the programming/content void in their absence... great writing and acting... I wasn't sure about the will graham at first, but now I think his casting was fine...
even the side characters like Abel Gideon are well drawn...
I never really watched X-Files except for maybe a few time (even though I liked supernatural, sci fi or horror series like twilight zone, outer limits, star trek and night stalker)... I completely missed Gillian Anderson as lecter's psychiatrist, my wife had to point it out... I guess I hadn't seen her in a while... maybe her acting chops were better than I credited her with... I thought of her as kind of perky, and in this role she is very reserved, composed and almost serene...
POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW
lecter doesn't seem too averse to will being dead... he knew he was going to the music shop (or sent him?) despite tobias (not funke!) predicting/warning he would kill those sent after him before disappearing (than again, how would you broach THAT subject)... OTOH, maybe it was a case of wanting Tobias dead at all costs, since he knew his identity, and the death of graham being acceptable trade off as collateral damage... if graham were warned, they would almost certainly have been more likely to take Tobias alive, and he could have talked...
but also by conspiring with his neurologist to withhold diagnosis of a brain infection and let graham continue to think his symptoms were caused by mental illness and possible psychotic break (which i guess is why it became necessary ro murder him), he probably intuits graham's conscious mind will eventually figure out what his subconscious is telling him (not sure if graham has shared elk visions with him, but I think so?)...
a lot of people know lecter's dark side, or he has confided in them... he covered up the girl's murder (but than, i think she figured out he had called her father hobbs, leading to what must be for him an uneasy, potentially treacherous alliance - a tightrope for writers), tobias, gideon, the woman in the great cotard's syndrome episode which connected a few running narrative strands (including dr. chilton)...
I wonder if how they depicted the POV when lecter appeared faceless to the cotard syndrome sufferer is how your perceptions would really be presented to you... I hadn't thought about it, but if I did, it would seem you would see a coherent face, but not recognize it?
but it was a cool attempt to represent what such a person's experience might be like... she didn't see a face at all, but lecter had no way of knowing to what degree, or if she might be capable of reconstructing a retroactive memory... thus the hyperbaric chamber prepped for unwitting self immolation...
graham is a tailor made patsy for lecter to frame with his dissociative condition...
I agree this is as dark a subject matter as I've seen on network TV... much more so than gilligan's island or the brady bunch...
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Homer J Simpson
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Is this available through On Demand?
Homer J Simpson
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Sarnoff
Footballguy
Better Than Silence: Hannibal on NBC is the best Thomas Harris adaptation to date.
There are five movies based on the fictional world that Thomas Harris, over the course of four novels, has populated with FBI agents, colorful serial killers, and, most importantly, the cannibal psychiatrist Hannibal Lecter. One is a cult classic (Manhunter, based on the novel Red Dragon) and one is a classic classic (The Silence of the Lambs, of course). The other three—Hannibal, Red Dragon, and Hannibal Rising—have very little to recommend them. I have a soft spot for the campy fun of Hannibal, but it’s an awful movie that basically turns Hannibal into a superhero. Red Dragon tells the same story as Manhunter, but the results are not nearly as powerful, mostly because Ed Norton can’t come close to matching William Petersen’s haunted Will Graham. Hannibal Rising is a nauseating mess that proves no one needed to see Hannibal’s origin story. It’s basically the second Star Wars trilogy of thrillers.
The NBC series Hannibal, the second season of which premieres this Friday, surely arose from the same motivation that spawned the regrettable post-Silence movies: a money-grubbing yearning to milk Hannibal Lecter for all he’s worth. Yet somehow it has become an engrossing, psychologically dense show that is also visually stunning. Hannibal is the kind of gem seldom found on network TV. It’s more than that, even: It’s the best version of Thomas Harris’ work yet—yes, even better than Manhunter and The Silence of the Lambs.
How is this possible? It probably helps that the show is also the loosest adaptation of Harris’ work so far. Rather than adapt one of the Lecter novels, Hannibal is inspired by events mentioned but not depicted in Red Dragon—specifically, the time before Hannibal was caught, when Will Graham was an active FBI profiler. Avoiding the all-too-familiar Hannibal-in-prison scenario and expanding on intriguing, unexplored events, the show manages to nail the best qualities of Harris’ work: the psychological nuance, the beautiful horror, and the black, black comedy.
The show’s pre-Red Dragon setting is crucial, as it provides the series with its chief asset: FBI profiler Will Graham, played heartbreakingly by Hugh Dancy. Will is a more interesting protagonist than Clarice Starling—or, for that matter, Will Graham in Manhunter. Clarice, while memorably brought to life by Jodie Foster, is too purely good to be all that engaging as a character. Will, on the other hand, the man who eventually catches Hannibal, is as complex as Hannibal himself. He’s also as dark as you can probably get without actually becoming a serial killer.
And one of the show’s creative coups is its depiction of his inner life. Will has an almost supernatural ability to get in the heads of serial killers, and the show dramatizes this ability by presenting mental landscapes in which Will imagines himself committing the actual deeds. This technique, coupled with Dancy’s superb acting, shows how Will’s “talent” is also a horrifying form of self-torture. For Will, the ultimate horror movie is playing in his mind, and he’s the villain. Will’s extreme empathy is one of the key details from Red Dragon that Hannibal expands on and heightens. (Another: Will’s love of dogs. He’s always picking up strays.)
At the heart of Silence are the conversations between Hannibal and Clarice, and the odd, strangely touching bond they create. But Hannibal and Will have an even more intricate and enjoyable relationship, one of the most complex on TV and also the best relationship in any Harris adaptation. As the series begins, Jack Crawford (Laurence Fishburne), the head of the FBI’s Behavioral Sciences division, has pulled Will out of the classroom to help catch Garrett Jacob Hobbs, the Minnesota Shrike, a serial killer who has been murdering young brunettes. Will does catch—and has to kill—the Shrike. Jack knows that this sort of trauma jeopardizes Will’s mental health, and that’s where Hannibal comes in: He’s there to support Will. This, of course, is a bit like bringing in the Coyote to support a wounded Road Runner. Gradually, a serial killer and the guy who can think like a serial killer become the ultimate frenemies, and their multilayered, darkly humorous, highly open-to-interpretation conversations are delicious. The show smartly plunders some of the better lines from Red Dragon, such as a letter from Hannibal to Will that becomes dialogue on the show: “When you were so depressed after you shot Mr. Garrett Jacob Hobbs to death, it wasn’t the act that got you down, was it? Really, didn’t you feel bad because killing him felt so good?”
The Will/Hannibal dynamic is not the only interesting relationship on the series. Jack forms a bizarre triangle with the central twosome, an awkward state of affairs made highly watchable thanks to Fishburne’s understated performance. And the conversations between Hannibal and his own psychiatrist, Dr. Bedelia Du Maurier—played with icy cool by Gillian Anderson—nearly steal the show: On the couch talking to Du Maurier, Hannibal offers manipulations wrapped in honesty wrapped in more manipulations.
What about Hannibal himself? I won’t say that Mads Mikkelsen is better than Anthony Hopkins in the role. But he is subtler, letting the audience’s knowledge of the character fill in the blanks that he sometimes gives us, and relishing the character’s life as a doctor, cook, and—much to his own surprise—friend. Showrunner Bryan Fuller has compared Hannibal to Frasier Crane, which helps explain why these great FBI minds don’t suspect what’s in Hannibal’s meals. (Which are, like everything on the show, gorgeous—the show is a foodie’s dream. It’s also a dream analyst’s dream, with its mind-shaking visuals and Lynchian strangeness.) Mikkelsen has rescued Lecter from the hamminess of Anthony Hopkins’ post-Silence performances, proving that it is possible to consume larger servings of the man without ruining the not-so-good doctor. It doesn’t hurt that this version of Lecter is new and fresh: He’s a practicing psychiatrist, a practicing cannibal, a prolific serial killer, and the most popular dinner party host in town. This is a Hannibal we’ve never seen before, and it’s a treat.
Naturally, Hannibal isn’t perfect. As is too often the case, the female characters are less developed than the men, with the exception of Anderson’s Du Maurier. Dr. Alana Bloom (Caroline Dhavernas) is a conflicted friend/love interest for Will, but so far the show’s writers seem more confused than the character. Dhavernas has shown she has real acting chops, so I’m optimistic that Bloom will become more vital and necessary in the new season. Tabloid writer Freddie Lounds (Lara Jean Chorostecki) is one-note, but she has shown some potential to be more. It would also be nice to see more of Jack Crawford’s wife, Phyllis, played by the terrific Gina Torres.
Male-centrism aside, Hannibal, in addition to improving on Silence and Manhunter, also has one up on most TV dramas, for a simple and refreshing reason: The ending is not in doubt. We don’t have to wonder whether Hannibal will go to jail, die, or suffer some less predictable end. We know exactly where he’s headed: Dr. Chilton’s asylum, so he can exchange pleasantries with Clarice. And we don’t have to wonder what will happen to Will either: He’s going to catch Hannibal. (There is talk that the show might eventually adapt the events of Red Dragon and even Silence, but we know how they end, too.) Without incessant finale speculation, it’s easier to enjoy every minute along the way. I wish more TV shows would find a way around finale anxiety. Hannibal dodges it completely.
And with that bullet dodged, we shouldn’t be surprised to see Thomas Harris’ ideas shine brighter on the small screen. In the post-Sopranos age, it is probably easier to successfully adapt novels—even as freely as Hannibal does—on the small screen. Their details can be more patiently unfolded over numerous episodes, rather than condensed into two hours or so. It has become a cliché to say that prestige dramas are novelistic, but it’s true: The episodes are like chapters, and there’s plenty of room for minor characters. With that in mind, it was probably just a matter of time before a TV version of Thomas Harris surpassed the cinematic creations, however good they were.
Sorry, Clarice.
The NBC series Hannibal, the second season of which premieres this Friday, surely arose from the same motivation that spawned the regrettable post-Silence movies: a money-grubbing yearning to milk Hannibal Lecter for all he’s worth. Yet somehow it has become an engrossing, psychologically dense show that is also visually stunning. Hannibal is the kind of gem seldom found on network TV. It’s more than that, even: It’s the best version of Thomas Harris’ work yet—yes, even better than Manhunter and The Silence of the Lambs.
How is this possible? It probably helps that the show is also the loosest adaptation of Harris’ work so far. Rather than adapt one of the Lecter novels, Hannibal is inspired by events mentioned but not depicted in Red Dragon—specifically, the time before Hannibal was caught, when Will Graham was an active FBI profiler. Avoiding the all-too-familiar Hannibal-in-prison scenario and expanding on intriguing, unexplored events, the show manages to nail the best qualities of Harris’ work: the psychological nuance, the beautiful horror, and the black, black comedy.
The show’s pre-Red Dragon setting is crucial, as it provides the series with its chief asset: FBI profiler Will Graham, played heartbreakingly by Hugh Dancy. Will is a more interesting protagonist than Clarice Starling—or, for that matter, Will Graham in Manhunter. Clarice, while memorably brought to life by Jodie Foster, is too purely good to be all that engaging as a character. Will, on the other hand, the man who eventually catches Hannibal, is as complex as Hannibal himself. He’s also as dark as you can probably get without actually becoming a serial killer.
And one of the show’s creative coups is its depiction of his inner life. Will has an almost supernatural ability to get in the heads of serial killers, and the show dramatizes this ability by presenting mental landscapes in which Will imagines himself committing the actual deeds. This technique, coupled with Dancy’s superb acting, shows how Will’s “talent” is also a horrifying form of self-torture. For Will, the ultimate horror movie is playing in his mind, and he’s the villain. Will’s extreme empathy is one of the key details from Red Dragon that Hannibal expands on and heightens. (Another: Will’s love of dogs. He’s always picking up strays.)
At the heart of Silence are the conversations between Hannibal and Clarice, and the odd, strangely touching bond they create. But Hannibal and Will have an even more intricate and enjoyable relationship, one of the most complex on TV and also the best relationship in any Harris adaptation. As the series begins, Jack Crawford (Laurence Fishburne), the head of the FBI’s Behavioral Sciences division, has pulled Will out of the classroom to help catch Garrett Jacob Hobbs, the Minnesota Shrike, a serial killer who has been murdering young brunettes. Will does catch—and has to kill—the Shrike. Jack knows that this sort of trauma jeopardizes Will’s mental health, and that’s where Hannibal comes in: He’s there to support Will. This, of course, is a bit like bringing in the Coyote to support a wounded Road Runner. Gradually, a serial killer and the guy who can think like a serial killer become the ultimate frenemies, and their multilayered, darkly humorous, highly open-to-interpretation conversations are delicious. The show smartly plunders some of the better lines from Red Dragon, such as a letter from Hannibal to Will that becomes dialogue on the show: “When you were so depressed after you shot Mr. Garrett Jacob Hobbs to death, it wasn’t the act that got you down, was it? Really, didn’t you feel bad because killing him felt so good?”
The Will/Hannibal dynamic is not the only interesting relationship on the series. Jack forms a bizarre triangle with the central twosome, an awkward state of affairs made highly watchable thanks to Fishburne’s understated performance. And the conversations between Hannibal and his own psychiatrist, Dr. Bedelia Du Maurier—played with icy cool by Gillian Anderson—nearly steal the show: On the couch talking to Du Maurier, Hannibal offers manipulations wrapped in honesty wrapped in more manipulations.
What about Hannibal himself? I won’t say that Mads Mikkelsen is better than Anthony Hopkins in the role. But he is subtler, letting the audience’s knowledge of the character fill in the blanks that he sometimes gives us, and relishing the character’s life as a doctor, cook, and—much to his own surprise—friend. Showrunner Bryan Fuller has compared Hannibal to Frasier Crane, which helps explain why these great FBI minds don’t suspect what’s in Hannibal’s meals. (Which are, like everything on the show, gorgeous—the show is a foodie’s dream. It’s also a dream analyst’s dream, with its mind-shaking visuals and Lynchian strangeness.) Mikkelsen has rescued Lecter from the hamminess of Anthony Hopkins’ post-Silence performances, proving that it is possible to consume larger servings of the man without ruining the not-so-good doctor. It doesn’t hurt that this version of Lecter is new and fresh: He’s a practicing psychiatrist, a practicing cannibal, a prolific serial killer, and the most popular dinner party host in town. This is a Hannibal we’ve never seen before, and it’s a treat.
Naturally, Hannibal isn’t perfect. As is too often the case, the female characters are less developed than the men, with the exception of Anderson’s Du Maurier. Dr. Alana Bloom (Caroline Dhavernas) is a conflicted friend/love interest for Will, but so far the show’s writers seem more confused than the character. Dhavernas has shown she has real acting chops, so I’m optimistic that Bloom will become more vital and necessary in the new season. Tabloid writer Freddie Lounds (Lara Jean Chorostecki) is one-note, but she has shown some potential to be more. It would also be nice to see more of Jack Crawford’s wife, Phyllis, played by the terrific Gina Torres.
Male-centrism aside, Hannibal, in addition to improving on Silence and Manhunter, also has one up on most TV dramas, for a simple and refreshing reason: The ending is not in doubt. We don’t have to wonder whether Hannibal will go to jail, die, or suffer some less predictable end. We know exactly where he’s headed: Dr. Chilton’s asylum, so he can exchange pleasantries with Clarice. And we don’t have to wonder what will happen to Will either: He’s going to catch Hannibal. (There is talk that the show might eventually adapt the events of Red Dragon and even Silence, but we know how they end, too.) Without incessant finale speculation, it’s easier to enjoy every minute along the way. I wish more TV shows would find a way around finale anxiety. Hannibal dodges it completely.
And with that bullet dodged, we shouldn’t be surprised to see Thomas Harris’ ideas shine brighter on the small screen. In the post-Sopranos age, it is probably easier to successfully adapt novels—even as freely as Hannibal does—on the small screen. Their details can be more patiently unfolded over numerous episodes, rather than condensed into two hours or so. It has become a cliché to say that prestige dramas are novelistic, but it’s true: The episodes are like chapters, and there’s plenty of room for minor characters. With that in mind, it was probably just a matter of time before a TV version of Thomas Harris surpassed the cinematic creations, however good they were.
Sorry, Clarice.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
This show is very twisted. Love it. Just wish it wasn't buried on a network's Friday night lineup. If this was an HBO Sunday show, the buzz would be enormous.
soothsayer
Footballguy
The fact that this has been moved to Friday night, in conjunction with the flash-forward in the 1st episode of this season, means that Season 2 is the last one, no?
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
God, NBC is worthless. If this show were on HBO or Showtime or AMC, it'd be a jewel in the crown. NBC decides to put it in their f'ng dumpster.
dparker713
Footballguy
Not particularly. Expectations on Friday are lower and since it's a co-production NBC needs even less ratings to break even.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
Not exactly. Not a good sign but not a portent of doom either. This show lives in a strange middle ground in the TV world. NBC is kind of renting it from an international production consortium in a unique arrangement. The threshold for NBC to profit is incredibly low, basically, any viewers put the deal in the black. It's just a matter of whether the network thinks it has something even more profitable to replace it with on the bench, and even so they could still move Hannibal to the summer doldrums where it only has to out-profit a rerun of Dateline to stay alive. This is the kind of show that can be dropped anywhere in the schedule and live off of people's DVRs finding wherever it lands.
As far as the opening:
Crawford finding out the "truth" about Hannibal, if that's what the opening implies, does not mean the show ends. Hannibal getting exposed does not end the series, the plan, IIRC, is to run through the events of Manhunter/Red Dragon, Silence of the Lambs, and maybe even beyond (Hannibal back on the loose after Silence and the events of the Ray Liotta movie) if the show runs that long.
soothsayer
Footballguy
Things are getting interesting!!!
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Indeed. Too bad there are seven people watching this show.
snogger
Footballguy
idiots NBC exec's figured Dracula was a bust, Grimm is doing well so the Grimm crowd will stay to watch..
Problem is, if the "Grimm Crowd" wasn't watching at the beginning, this isn't the type of show you can just jump into mid-season.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
If this show, which would be bigger than "True Detective", "Bates Motel", or "American Horror Story" if it were handled properly on a cable network, gets axed because of the idiots at the network, it will be a travishamockery.idiots NBC exec's figured Dracula was a bust, Grimm is doing well so the Grimm crowd will stay to watch..
Problem is, if the "Grimm Crowd" wasn't watching at the beginning, this isn't the type of show you can just jump into mid-season.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
Still a fan. Rooting for a long run.
But a weird thing about the last episode. Will told the doc to look for a "subtle clue" that the killer would have left behind on the muralist-killer's corpse. She hit on the thread holes covering up the punctures or whatever. Then she looks and the guy is missing a kidney. How was that not noticed in autopsy? Or, at least, wouldn't Hannibal have expected that to be noticed? Is a missing organ supposed to be a subtle clue? Or did I misunderstand something?
But a weird thing about the last episode. Will told the doc to look for a "subtle clue" that the killer would have left behind on the muralist-killer's corpse. She hit on the thread holes covering up the punctures or whatever. Then she looks and the guy is missing a kidney. How was that not noticed in autopsy? Or, at least, wouldn't Hannibal have expected that to be noticed? Is a missing organ supposed to be a subtle clue? Or did I misunderstand something?
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I'm one of the seven, this show is pretty damn good. I do worry about the move to Friday, but maybe it'll catch on with DVR folks and we'll get some more seasons.
Also agree with Homer, maybe the cable networks will be interested if NBC blows it. Problem of course is that transferring contracts and rights in Hollywood is a #####.
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Yeah, that seemed totally off to me. Really out of character for the show.Sarnoff said:
Still a great episode though. Too bad we're gonna lose Asia Doc*...she was kind of interesting.
*I'm just assuming here. I don't see how Hannibal maintains his anonymity if she makes it out alive.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I don't regularly serve human flesh, but I have to admit... Hannibal's culinary presentation is exquisite.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Holy crap, great episode.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Love seeing Eddie Izzard again. 
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Thanks for the spoiler tags. I literally close my eyes and cover my ears to avoid the previews.
tdoss
Footballguy
I know there's probably some borderline racism in what I'm about to say...but for anyone who has watched "Banshee"...tell me honestly...Dr. Beverly Katz looks EXACTLY like the Asian dude from Banshee...with a wig a bit of makeup.
It's so strikingly exact that it takes me out of the story for a bit...thankfully it has kinda resolved itself though.
It's so strikingly exact that it takes me out of the story for a bit...thankfully it has kinda resolved itself though.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
The most twisted show ever...
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Homer J Simpson
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I think the dude eating his own leg was the first time a TV show made my skin crawl.
Homer J Simpson
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Homer J Simpson
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NBC is gonna cancel this show and I will be forced to burn #### down.
dparker713
Footballguy
Last night's episode was fantastic. Show just keeps getting better.
bshell27
Footballguy
This show is incredible. A little slow in story development, but that might also be the culture we live in now (need answers immediately rather than having to wait). This may be due to the fact that I tried to watch last week's episode while slightly distracted, but did it seem to jump around in the story?
Next week looks incredible.
Next week looks incredible.
snogger
Footballguy
One of the best aspects of the show is how they've gone just enough off the reservation when comparing the show to the Books/Movies that you really have no idea where they are headed..
Last weeks "killing" of Dr. Chilton really was a "wait.. Did they really just do that??
" moment..
Last weeks "killing" of Dr. Chilton really was a "wait.. Did they really just do that??
" moment..
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I think cable would pick this show up if NBC dropped it. The show is graphic and dark, but it is really outstanding.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
One of the best aspects of the show is how they've gone just enough off the reservation when comparing the show to the Books/Movies that you really have no idea where they are headed..
Last weeks "killing" of Dr. Chilton really was a "wait.. Did they really just do that??
That was an oh #### moment to say the least.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
This show is terrible.
Homer J Simpson
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Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Between the show and you, one is terrible and the other is for us to enjoy.
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