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Harry Douglas time (1 Viewer)

My thought was that Douglas was already going to be a significant part of the picture, most likely bypassing Jenkins at some point during the season. What I'm more curious about here is how this could affect the development of Kerry Meier. I've taken a number of very inexpensive flyers on him in many deeper leagues (all post-rookie draft FA pickups) for long-term potential...

 
My thought was that Douglas was already going to be a significant part of the picture, most likely bypassing Jenkins at some point during the season. What I'm more curious about here is how this could affect the development of Kerry Meier. I've taken a number of very inexpensive flyers on him in many deeper leagues (all post-rookie draft FA pickups) for long-term potential...
Meier's a solid player and has room to grow as he's only played outside for 2 years, but I'd be real surprised if he's ever more than a good possession WR. I don't see a field stretcher, YAC machine, or red zone threat in his game.If this effects anyone else outside of Douglas it's Turner, Jenkins' best asset is blocking. I still like Turner this year and have him #5 in my rankings, but it is something to consider.
 
My thought was that Douglas was already going to be a significant part of the picture, most likely bypassing Jenkins at some point during the season. What I'm more curious about here is how this could affect the development of Kerry Meier. I've taken a number of very inexpensive flyers on him in many deeper leagues (all post-rookie draft FA pickups) for long-term potential...
yeah exactly, Douglas was always going to beat out Jenkins. The time to grab Douglas was while he was still under the radar.......that will be next to impossible now.
 
Raymell McKigney said:
bigern1000 said:
My thought was that Douglas was already going to be a significant part of the picture, most likely bypassing Jenkins at some point during the season. What I'm more curious about here is how this could affect the development of Kerry Meier. I've taken a number of very inexpensive flyers on him in many deeper leagues (all post-rookie draft FA pickups) for long-term potential...
yeah exactly, Douglas was always going to beat out Jenkins. The time to grab Douglas was while he was still under the radar.......that will be next to impossible now.
Yup, I picked up Douglas off the WW about a month ago in a dynasty league thinking the same way as bigern1000. His value is sure to drastically increase now.
 
The roll call in Atlanta is something like this...

Turner...White

Gonzalez...this is really the WR2 on this offense

Matt Ryan

WR2...I don't see this as anything more than a bye week filler. Is this a dynasty thread? Still don't see the 2nd receiver spot on this team being worth a lot. You wouldn't want to really start Douglas or Jenkins 90% of the time so why roster them?

 
The roll call in Atlanta is something like this...Turner...WhiteGonzalez...this is really the WR2 on this offenseMatt RyanWR2...I don't see this as anything more than a bye week filler. Is this a dynasty thread? Still don't see the 2nd receiver spot on this team being worth a lot. You wouldn't want to really start Douglas or Jenkins 90% of the time so why roster them?
Because all the buzz coming out of the off-season and training camp says Atlanta is wanting to open up that offense, and might have dome more last year had Harry not come up injured. The reason WR2 hasn't been a big deal has a lot to do with the #2 incumbent, Jenkins, who has shown to be a better blocker than a WR. I'm not trying to pump up HD as the guy who's going to save your season but I think he will dramatically out-perform his currnent ADP (which is rising, given jenkins injury) and has the potential be a real break-out guy. I can't emphasize how much the front office has been talking about HD in the off-season, and how much they were counting on him last year before he got hurt.
 
WR2...I don't see this as anything more than a bye week filler. Is this a dynasty thread? Still don't see the 2nd receiver spot on this team being worth a lot. You wouldn't want to really start Douglas or Jenkins 90% of the time so why roster them?
Douglas is a young player still and could greatly improve. Gonzo is awful old and could decline sharply at any moment. Or White/Gonzo could get injured and suddenly the team is looking for another player to step up. At this moment in time you wouldn't want to start Douglas, but that doesn't mean things wont change. By the time they do it will be too late to get great value out of him.
 
Put two and two together:

Two: GM Thomas Dimitroff (formerly of the NE org) said that they envisioned Douglas as a Welker-type player when they drafted him

Two: Matt Ryan said studying the elite QBs showed him to always take the short stuff until the D takes it away

Four: Douglas has a chance to see an 07 Welker-like leap in targets, maybe not to 100 catches, but certainly to levels that would make him a very useful player in start 3 WR PPR leagues...

 
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WR2...I don't see this as anything more than a bye week filler. Is this a dynasty thread? Still don't see the 2nd receiver spot on this team being worth a lot. You wouldn't want to really start Douglas or Jenkins 90% of the time so why roster them?
Douglas is a young player still and could greatly improve. Gonzo is awful old and could decline sharply at any moment. Or White/Gonzo could get injured and suddenly the team is looking for another player to step up. At this moment in time you wouldn't want to start Douglas, but that doesn't mean things wont change. By the time they do it will be too late to get great value out of him.
You make him sound like a pregnant women waiting to give birth...he could burst at any moment. Not saying you are wrong but Gonzo is perhaps the greatest TE of all time and while he is old, he still caught 80+ balls last year.
 
The roll call in Atlanta is something like this...Turner...WhiteGonzalez...this is really the WR2 on this offenseMatt RyanWR2...I don't see this as anything more than a bye week filler. Is this a dynasty thread? Still don't see the 2nd receiver spot on this team being worth a lot. You wouldn't want to really start Douglas or Jenkins 90% of the time so why roster them?
Put two and two together:Two: GM Thomas Dimitroff (formerly of the NE org) said that they envisioned Douglas as a Welker-type player when they drafted himTwo: Matt Ryan said studying the elite QBs showed him to always take the short stuff until the D takes it awayFour: Douglas has a chance to see an 07 Welker-like leap in targets, maybe not to 100 catches, but certainly to levels that would make him a very useful player in start 3 WR PPR leagues...
Exactly, yes gonzo is the #2 receiving option but in ppr leagues douglas will be money
 
Raymell McKigney said:
bigern1000 said:
My thought was that Douglas was already going to be a significant part of the picture, most likely bypassing Jenkins at some point during the season. What I'm more curious about here is how this could affect the development of Kerry Meier. I've taken a number of very inexpensive flyers on him in many deeper leagues (all post-rookie draft FA pickups) for long-term potential...
yeah exactly, Douglas was always going to beat out Jenkins. The time to grab Douglas was while he was still under the radar.......that will be next to impossible now.
Yeah dropped him after the injury and picked him back up a few months ago because no one else grabbed him.

 
Has he added any bulk? Isn't he like 5-10/5-11, and about a buck70 or so? Pretty frail.

PPR monster? I think this is more of a dynasty slant than a 2010 redraft prediction. Anyone want to set the over under for recptions?

 
Has he added any bulk? Isn't he like 5-10/5-11, and about a buck70 or so? Pretty frail.PPR monster? I think this is more of a dynasty slant than a 2010 redraft prediction. Anyone want to set the over under for recptions?
I think they like Douglas in the slot and Meier could see time out wide now. How big is Welker?
 
Has he added any bulk? Isn't he like 5-10/5-11, and about a buck70 or so? Pretty frail.PPR monster? I think this is more of a dynasty slant than a 2010 redraft prediction. Anyone want to set the over under for recptions?
I think they like Douglas in the slot and Meier could see time out wide now. How big is Welker?
He is essentially the same size as DJAX and there are some around here that think the sun sets when he closes his eyes...Douglas is a nice stash for dynasty!
 
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O/U on 55 receptions?
He's Wes Welker and DeSean Jackson rolled into one, gonna be a big PPR machine this year so you have to set that number much higher. Personally I'll pass on him and revisit in 2011. I'm not looking at him in terms of dynasty just 2010 redraft.
 
O/U on 55 receptions?
He's Wes Welker and DeSean Jackson rolled into one, gonna be a big PPR machine this year so you have to set that number much higher. Personally I'll pass on him and revisit in 2011. I'm not looking at him in terms of dynasty just 2010 redraft.
So you are a Douglas hater that came in here just to bash people? By John ManassoFoxSportsSouth.comAugust 9, 2010As the Falcons’ No. 2 wide receiver last season, Michael Jenkins caught 50 receptions for 635 yards.On Sunday, the Falcons announced that Jenkins would be out for four-to-six weeks. So, in a best case scenario, the Falcons will have Jenkins back for their Sept. 12 season opener at Pittsburgh – head coach Mike Smith was emphatic on Monday in denying reports that Jenkins would require surgery, though he would not divulge any other details about the injury.However, it’s also possible that Jenkins could miss the first two games of the season. Regardless, other receivers now will get Jenkins’ repetitions in practice, not to mention the preseason games.The most likely candidate to get those reps would be veteran Brian Finneran, who is entering his 11th season. Like the 6-foot-4 Jenkins, the 6-5 Finneran is tall – a characteristic that the team’s other veteran receivers lack.“We are going to rotate our wide receivers,” Smith said. “Harry Douglas will be coming back. Brian Finneran and Eric Weems, they are all experienced players that will really step into his role… Brian and Eric will probably get the majority of the snaps and we’ll get Kerry Meier in the game Friday night.”The problem is that if the Falcons pair the 6-0 Douglas and the 5-9 Weems with 6-0 No. 1 receiver Roddy White, their receiving corps will lack size, especially for those routes that go over the middle and into the teeth of an opposing defense.That’s why it makes the most sense that Finneran and the rookie Meier will step into that role. Finneran admitted to having the same physical “stature” as Jenkins, but he said that Jenkins is a bit “younger and faster and quicker” than he is.Meier, a 6-3, 220-pound fifth-round pick out of Kansas, has been a standout during camp, but he’s still learning the offense.“Every day, I’m learning something new,” he said. “We’re putting in new wrinkles in daily and it’s up to me to sit down and zone in and focus in and learn those new concepts,” he said. “The playbooks is thick, but if you take the time out and invest your 100 percent attitude and devotion into it, you’ll be just fine.”Meier, who is looking forward to the opportunity, will now have to accelerate his learning curve.“That’s what I came here to do -- is come here and play and to help this team out,” he said. “When someone goes, down that means someone has to step up. I’m anxious to be that guy. I know there are a few guys who have been here and will step right in, but I’m going to be right there pushing them to get better and I’m anxious to step in and help this team out.”
 
O/U on 55 receptions?
He's Wes Welker and DeSean Jackson rolled into one, gonna be a big PPR machine this year so you have to set that number much higher. Personally I'll pass on him and revisit in 2011. I'm not looking at him in terms of dynasty just 2010 redraft.
So you are a Douglas hater that came in here just to bash people?
Just because you ended with a question mark doesn't make that a question. I'm not bashing anyone, but now we are being told he will play the slot. Your article says that FInneran will replace Jenkins. 5-10/5-11 guys don't usually fill the SE/FL positions, there are exceptions but a slot WR in Atlanta is not a guy I would want to have right now. Roddy White, TG, WR2, then slot...how many receptions is he gooing to get? People are talking about a unique situation in NE with Welker, then DeSean Jackson was thrust into the conversation. You might want to read the thread but I think I hit the major bullet points. Let's not mix the FFA and the SP gb.I'm not bashing but people are coming across rather foolish to me. They think I'm foolish, so we get a stalemate I guess for today. When Douglas lights it up this year feel free to rub my nose in it. White and Gonzo are good for 80+ receptions, there simply are not that many balls to go around. Wes Welker??? People think that Douglas is going to have 8 and 9 reception games? C'mon that's kind of an odd POV IMO.
 
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As a long-time Falcon fan, I am actually excited that Douglas gets a good look in 2010. He was going to get a chance in the slot, but with Jenkins on the shelf for over a month, Douglas will get a ton of practice time as the #2 and in the preseason games which is key since he lost 2009 to injury. He was big down the stretch in 2008 and is definitely a talent to watch out for in 2010 and beyond.

 
The roll call in Atlanta is something like this...Turner...WhiteGonzalez...this is really the WR2 on this offenseMatt RyanWR2...I don't see this as anything more than a bye week filler. Is this a dynasty thread? Still don't see the 2nd receiver spot on this team being worth a lot. You wouldn't want to really start Douglas or Jenkins 90% of the time so why roster them?
Because all the buzz coming out of the off-season and training camp says Atlanta is wanting to open up that offense, and might have dome more last year had Harry not come up injured. The reason WR2 hasn't been a big deal has a lot to do with the #2 incumbent, Jenkins, who has shown to be a better blocker than a WR. I'm not trying to pump up HD as the guy who's going to save your season but I think he will dramatically out-perform his currnent ADP (which is rising, given jenkins injury) and has the potential be a real break-out guy. I can't emphasize how much the front office has been talking about HD in the off-season, and how much they were counting on him last year before he got hurt.
I think Douglas is used as the slot guy still and they will use Kerry Meir or Finneran in the split formation that Jenkins has manned. Jenkins and Finneran are premier downfield blockers at their position and Meir has Finneran's size,,,,,
 
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Harry Douglas vs. Mike Thomas (JAX)? Both are getting hype and both have game, but who has the better opportunity? If you had to compare the question marks both are presented with, which would come out on top? This season and dynasty? Just curious what the SP thinks about this comparison since they are so close ADP wise.

 
gpthatsme said:
Harry Douglas vs. Mike Thomas (JAX)? Both are getting hype and both have game, but who has the better opportunity? If you had to compare the question marks both are presented with, which would come out on top? This season and dynasty? Just curious what the SP thinks about this comparison since they are so close ADP wise.
Really depends on who takes over as QB from Garrard. If both had an equal QB, I'd prefer Thomas. This year I'd take Douglas, since Ryan >>>>> Garrard.
 

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