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So if Payton unretires and the Saints don't work out a deal, are they on the hook for his salary?
That’s….a really interesting question.
DeMeco Ryans would be a really solid get for any of the teams in need.
Yes, Wilson’s lack of attempts were the issue.
I thought I heard Payton is a free agent next year. I know these guys have a huge ego, but I think I'd wait a year rather than tie one hand behind my back.
He only coached one season after Brees retired and the Saints went 9-8 with Winston/Hill as the QB.
He is, but I think he is a bit overrated. He had a Hall of Fame QB for 15 years and made it to one Super Bowl. Just one. Some love to dog Mike McCarthy for only getting to one with Aaron Rodgers, but Payton did no better with Brees (with more years).
I’m not sure why he’d even consider Denver. Wilson is an anchor on that team - and it wasn’t just the coaching. He looked like trash.
They missed two additional NFC Championship games due to a miracle catch and run TD by Diggs and one of the worst calls in NFL History against the Rams.
He ain’t 25M and 2x 1sts good.
That's different then saying "he sucked without Brees".
Oh I wasn’t saying he sucked without Brees.
Gotta ask for the insane so that the merely imprudent looks like a good deal.
No, Payton can't unretire from coaching before this coming season unless the Saints void his contract -- Payton still owes the Saints two years of coaching. The idea is that the team hiring Payton will need to compensate the Saints in exchange for the contract void.
There was also that BountyGate BS right in the middle of their window (sigh). And all the Katrina stuff. Heck, I'll be in the old folks home telling stories of Marshawn rumbling for what seemed like 400 yards in 2013 or Alex Smith / Vernon Davis playing an out of their minds game of pitch and catch in 2011. "If Only"
Not to nitpick, but the Rams no-call was in the NFC Championship game, and there are tons and tons of Saints fans (myself included) who will die on the hill that had that call happened, the Saints win and then they'd have beaten NE in the Super Bowl for ring #2.
So he shows up to coach…do the Saints fire the current coach. Or does Payton tell the current coach to get out of his office and have a seat in the corner? If the Saints play hard ball Payton could make a poop show in NO.
17-18 was the years the refs gift wrapped a playoff victory vs the Panthers. They’ve had more than their fair share of bad calls going their way.
Doesn't work like that. Remember, the Saints are still paying him right now even though he's "retired" as coaches' contracts are guaranteed. So it's not like the Saints are in breach of contract or in some kind of holding pattern.
Cue up the Denver ad featuring Payton & Russell Wilson in the kitchen.
All due respect, was that BS?
Many gamblers have a far happier memory of that play.
+1 for the MM comp and Payton's ability to manage perceptions. If Payton goes to a team with a great QB, it probably works out. But 2 first round picks is a non starter. Is BB worth 2 first round picks? He was with Brady. I guess if you can get a Brady in the 6th round, it doesn't matter.
How is that even possible? So I get a contract and then just retire the next day and collect my check? Who agrees to something that stupid.
I don't see how it's possible Payton's getting paid this year. That makes no sense. He has to fulfill his contract to get paid. If they fire him yes he gets paid but not if he voluntarily steps away.
This is what I thought as well. Was not under the impression he needed to be paid to remain contractually obligated to the team till 2024.
If Payton shows up at the facility to resume coaching, they better go rip the whistle and clipboard out of DAs hands and politely hand it to Payton. Then maybe a welcome back cake after practice.
Color me skeptical this happens. Never say never though.
Yeah. I think Payton is a very good coach but this makes him really unlikable in my book. Would be really hard to give him the money + picks being asked for. Character matters.
Not a Saints fan, but I definitely agree with this. Was in New Orleans that weekend too, the whole city felt upset. People there love their team.
So we really don't have an answer to this question???
Don't get me wrong, the punishments to the staff were justified. DC G Williams suspended indefinitely for creating, administering, and even funding the program was tough but fair. I thought Payton would get a 4 game suspension for the coverup, but dang...a full year? Eh, I get it, but not happy. I guess it's similar to when the NFL suspended Bill Belichick for a year because of spygate...oh wait....no Patriot coaches were suspended for even a single game (down south we call these "sour grapes").
I think that was overturned/reduced.
It’s tough, but you punish the laundry. Teams get dinged picks. It’s what happens.
