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HC Sean Payton, DEN (1 Viewer)
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
"It's looking more likely than ever that Payton will remain on FOX -- something he at one point before the end of the season described as a "70% chance."
LOL at him using the 70% line.
LOL at him using the 70% line.
Doug B
Footballguy
Johnny Venerable
@JohnnyVenerable
Arizona Cardinals’ next head coaching odds for Sean Payton on @DKSportsbook just went from +1000 to +350 in the last hour.
3:09 PM · Jan 26, 2023 · 27K Views
Now +300
3:52 PM · Jan 26, 2023 · 5,919 Views
The Arizona Cardinals’ next head coaching odds have been removed from @DKSportsbook.
4:02 PM · Jan 26, 2023 · 5.2K Views
@JohnnyVenerable
Arizona Cardinals’ next head coaching odds for Sean Payton on @DKSportsbook just went from +1000 to +350 in the last hour.
3:09 PM · Jan 26, 2023 · 27K Views
Now +300
3:52 PM · Jan 26, 2023 · 5,919 Views
The Arizona Cardinals’ next head coaching odds have been removed from @DKSportsbook.
4:02 PM · Jan 26, 2023 · 5.2K Views
Doug B
Footballguy
Well, lots of Twitter action if nothing else. Payton has been at the Cardinals' facility all day, and has just left with Michael Bidwill. Payton got into Bidwill's car headed for destination unknown.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
As could be seen coming a mile away, a vintage HSG backtrack.
It was a joke all along guys! Even though you tried to defend it in between. HUH?
So "He sucked without Brees." was a joke. How was that a joke? Or funny? The desperation and backtrack, now that IS funny.
Doug B
Footballguy
Johnny Venerable
@JohnnyVenerable
Arizona Cardinals’ next head coaching odds for Sean Payton on @DKSportsbook just went from +1000 to +350 in the last hour.
3:09 PM · Jan 26, 2023 · 27K Views
Now +300
3:52 PM · Jan 26, 2023 · 5,919 Views
The Arizona Cardinals’ next head coaching odds have been removed from @DKSportsbook.
4:02 PM · Jan 26, 2023 · 5.2K Views
Same guy today:
Doug B
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
With the #Texans eying DeMeco Ryans and his desire to interview with Houston next week, that may not align with #Broncos timeline despite DEN thinking highly of Ryans. GM George Paton and CEO Greg Penner have continued conversations with other candidates throughout the process.
@RapSheet
With the #Texans eying DeMeco Ryans and his desire to interview with Houston next week, that may not align with #Broncos timeline despite DEN thinking highly of Ryans. GM George Paton and CEO Greg Penner have continued conversations with other candidates throughout the process.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
been saying that all along he's not leaving to go to these lousy franchises.
Capella
Footballguy
Yea, the Rams/Chargers/Bucs could all be open next year. All in sunny weather and two have ownership who have went all-in to win a Super Bowl recently. The other has a stud QB.
I also think the Saints asking price is way too high. A first is a little crazy for a coach.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Tampa Gave Up Sapp and 1sts for Grudden back in the day I think Payton is super Overrated and not even near worth what the Saints want honestly.
Doug B
Footballguy
Cliffy Clavin: I'll take "NFL Owners" for $600, Alex
Alex Trebek: "Malcolm Glazer"
Cliffy Clavin: ... um ... Who is someone that's has never been Capella's client?
Capella
Footballguy
Lol that was 21 years ago. It worked out for the Bucs in that they won the SB but I doubt we see that again.
Doug B
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Nope Fox it is.
Sean Payton - returning to the NFL? Cardinals, Texans, Broncos and Panthers are interested
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He becomes a FA sometime in January of 2025. This won't be impacted if he sits in the booth.
ETA-sorry I typed 2024, it's 2025.
Capella
Footballguy
Thanks. Interesting situation.
Doug B
Footballguy
Depends on contract language. I don’t know if there’s some kind of typical boilerplate in coaches’ contracts that covers this specifically.
Some on Saintsreport think an NFL team could — if they wanted to — contest the duration of a coach’s contract and see if a court would find that the years of service operate more like players’ contracts. If the contract language allows for interpretation or wiggle room … really don’t know.
I don't think there is any ambiguity about it. He's under contract. If he thinks he can sue to get out of it he can take that option.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
You still standing by the statement that the Saints are still paying him right now? I'm not going to say you're wrong, but the majority disagree with you. If the Saints are paying him, a 5th will likely pry him free if only one team is interested.
Doug B
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
I think the Saints would stand pat if the best offer was a fifth.
EDIT: Missed the “if they’re paying him” qualifier. That’s moot, though — the Saints aren’t paying Payton.
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Doug B
Footballguy
The idea was not Payton suing the Saints … but the Saints suing Payton to hold him to two additional seasons (as opposed to calendar years) of service. Dependent of the air-tightness of the contract language.
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He's under contract until 2025 and no team is signing him to force the Saints to sue. I don't know how more plain it can be.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
So getting "nothing" for him in the end is the way to go? Or move on and end up with some draft capital, at least.
Doug B
Footballguy
The bolded is actually what's in question. Does his contract 'expire' when the 2024-25 league year ends (~March 2025)? Or instead, does his Saints contract stipulate a certain number of years of service, like a player contract -- and that he still owes the Saints two seasons? Some Saints fans consider this an open question that comes down to the contract's language.
It does not matter anymore now but I had heard from Allbright and Randy Mueller that it was for 2 years. So no stipulation for service, his contract term was measured solely by dates.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Breaking: Saints and Broncos are finalizing compensation in return for Super Bowl-winning HC Sean Payton, sources tell ESPN. This clears the way for Payton to sign with the Broncos to become Denver’s next head coach.
And so Payton is expected to head to Denver as its next HC.
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Compensation: Denver’s 2023 first-round pick and next year’s second-round pick for Sean Payton and the Saints’ 2024 third.
@AdamSchefter
Breaking: Saints and Broncos are finalizing compensation in return for Super Bowl-winning HC Sean Payton, sources tell ESPN. This clears the way for Payton to sign with the Broncos to become Denver’s next head coach.
And so Payton is expected to head to Denver as its next HC.
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Compensation: Denver’s 2023 first-round pick and next year’s second-round pick for Sean Payton and the Saints’ 2024 third.
irish eyes
Footballguy
Denver will suck for an eternity. They will now have absolutely no draft picks to even try and become competitive. They are becoming a joke.
Doug B
Footballguy
... while many Saints fans are PO'd it wasn't enough picks.
Seems about right to me.
Deamon
Footballguy
I thought Denver didn't have a 2023 1st round pick?
Boston
Footballguy
Got one from Miami in the Chubb deal.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Bradley Chubb trade. end's up at #29.
Deamon
Footballguy
Ah, I'm confused I guess. Is it the Niners pick 30?
Tankathon | 2026 NFL Draft Order
2026 NFL Draft order tracker updated after every game. View traded picks in all seven rounds and a live updating Mock Draft after each game.
It's 29. Remember there are only 31 first round picks this year and 30 and 31 are the picks for the two teams that are in the SB
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Miami lost their 1st rounder this year. It says forfeited on your link.
Ah, I'm confused I guess. Is it the Niners pick 30?
Tankathon | 2026 NFL Draft Order
2026 NFL Draft order tracker updated after every game. View traded picks in all seven rounds and a live updating Mock Draft after each game.www.tankathon.com
Tankathon | 2023 NFL Draft Order
2023 NFL Draft order tracker updated after every game. View traded picks in all seven rounds and a live updating Mock Draft after each game.www.tankathon.com
Thank you @Deamon What a great site name.
Doug B
Footballguy
From down here, this reporting looked like a smokescreen - especially once Jim Harbaugh was off the table.
I don't think it as a smokescreen myself and fact the Ryans hire was announced almost right after this hit is kind of telling to me. Harbaugh and Ryans I do believe where they first two choices, Quinn might have been third.
Now that might have had to do all along with compensation. That I don't know. As in if Payton did not cost them trading anything to acquire maybe he'd have been higher up their list.
Deamon
Footballguy
Ya i knew that. But don't think that's the Denver pick. I think they updated tankathon already and it's pick 30 from SF (they just didn't show that it's through denver)Miami lost their 1st rounder this year. It says forfeited on your link.
Ah, I'm confused I guess. Is it the Niners pick 30?
Tankathon | 2026 NFL Draft Order
2026 NFL Draft order tracker updated after every game. View traded picks in all seven rounds and a live updating Mock Draft after each game.
Deamon
Footballguy
haha surprised you hadn't heard of them, I thought they were a pretty common site but I guess not. It always lays out the order really well throughout the season with tie breakers and stuff worked in.
