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TampaMike19
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Love when individuals who have massive hubris eat ****.
JohnnyU
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Hated him ever since he did the onside kick to open the 2nd half against the Colts in the Super Bowl. A play that changed the momentum with the Colts leading at halftime. Plus he was the Saints head coach when their defense was accused of dirty play to hurt players several years ago. Wasn't their defensive coach accused of condoning it?
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Dizzy
Footballguy
Any port in a storm.
Cjw_55106
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Condoning it? They paid the players bounties. At the time, Gregg Williams was suspended indefinitely. Mainly because he doesnt know how to spell his own first name, but also because of Bountygate.
pinkstapler
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It seems the reports of Sean Payton's death were greatly exaggerated. I never understood the hate tbh. I think he comes off half as cocky as a coach like Mike McDaniel (who everybody loves, as do I) and honestly think he's always been a great coach. A lot of biased blanket takes like "he was only good cause Brees" that we could lay on the feet of any HC (look at people skewering BB right now), or take the reverse angle and show how many teams at one point had a great QB and still stunk because of poor coaching.
Either way, while it wouldn't be surprising for the haters to try and spin it so the bad was all Payton's fault and now the good has nothing to do with him haha, the Broncos are assuredly turning it around. The defense has pulled a complete 180 and looks like a top 5 unit right now, and IMO he's making chicken salad out of chicken sht with that offense. If Wilson didn't throw 3 picks against the Texans, they'd be on a 7 game win streak right now. Still, 6 of the last 7 when you're best offensive weapon is...? Cortland Sutton I guess? Calling it impressive is being modest. And the silence in the thread really says it all.
Ghost Rider
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I am not a Payton fan, but this turnaround is pretty impressive, from both last year's disaster under that doofus Hackett and this season's early disastrous beginning. A little more improvement to the offensive line and this team could be a legit contender next season.
The Duff Man
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Bounty gate combined with arrogance. Calling out the coach from last year as an example.
No doubt he is getting the most out of the Broncos though. They have been a bit lucky but they also manufactured some luck. Against the Bills for example, their rushing to the line and snapping the ball fast caught the Bills a few times and helped negate the crowd. Great strategy.
pinkstapler
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LOL what a ridiculous take from Keeler. He still crying Payton shut him out in the preseason? IMO none of those plays get overturned on review as absolutely none of them had clear indisputable evidence. Not to mention they were down to only 2 time outs at the time and obviously needed a big come back. Even his terrible takes aside, his writing is atrocious for a professional columnist for a large newspaper. This reads like someone asked chatGPT to "write me a bombastic, exaggerated summary of the game in the tone of a narcissitic cry-baby at a high school newsletter quality"
Stoneworker
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Agreed. The notion that Payton's decision-making was "throwing a white flag" is utter nonsense. Mike Kiszla is a similar local click-bait artist who was pounding the table earlier in the year to fire Vance Joseph and tank for Caleb Williams. Idiots
abrunn1133
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My single favorite football memory of my life (48 years old) is seeing Payton doing the Skol chant to Viking fans a bit premature. So poetic.
rockaction
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Guy is a whole lotta bluster.
Will give him credit for calling the onside kick in the Super Bowl.
He's a good coach, but I don't like him.
Will give him credit for calling the onside kick in the Super Bowl.
He's a good coach, but I don't like him.
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I guess that Russell Wilson trade is a distant memory?
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Stoneworker
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Just to be balanced, let's match reporter "king's ransom" click bait with coach/GM speak from today's conf call. Bolded seems to point to lessons learned from the Wilson fiasco.
"You'd say, man, it sure looks like we have to draft a quarterback, and yet, it's got to be the right fit, the right one," Payton said. "And if you had the tip sheets as to who everyone else was taking, it would be easier to answer that question. ... That's the puzzle here."
"What you don't want to do is force it," [GM George] Paton added. "Otherwise we'll be in this position next year and the years after. You want to get the right player at 12. Our first pick we've got to hit on, whether it's a quarterback, whether it's a tackle, a receiver, you name it, we need to get an impact player."
"There's a handful of teams ahead of us where you would say quarterback [is a need]," Payton said. "Then there's a team or two -- Minnesota, ourselves, the Raiders -- you could argue quarterback. That's what makes this year a little interesting."
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"You'd say, man, it sure looks like we have to draft a quarterback, and yet, it's got to be the right fit, the right one," Payton said. "And if you had the tip sheets as to who everyone else was taking, it would be easier to answer that question. ... That's the puzzle here."
"What you don't want to do is force it," [GM George] Paton added. "Otherwise we'll be in this position next year and the years after. You want to get the right player at 12. Our first pick we've got to hit on, whether it's a quarterback, whether it's a tackle, a receiver, you name it, we need to get an impact player."
"There's a handful of teams ahead of us where you would say quarterback [is a need]," Payton said. "Then there's a team or two -- Minnesota, ourselves, the Raiders -- you could argue quarterback. That's what makes this year a little interesting."
Broncos keep QB options open, won't 'force' pick
The Broncos would love to find their long-term solution at quarterback in the first round of the NFL draft, but the team's decision-makers say they won't "force it" and tout seven to eight possible starters in this year's class.
Stoneworker
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Correct. It's total BS. Payton made a joke during his press conference about how he was trying to send out smokescreens pre-draft about trading up to disguise his interest in Nix. He was laughing the whole time.I am calling BS on this. What was there to gain by faking out the Vikings? It sounds like Payton tried to move up for McCarthy and failed.x.com
This and the similar click bait in the Nix thread is nonsense.
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If the Broncos wanted McCarthy they could have easily beat the 4th and 5th the Vikings gave up. Maybe they offered the same. Obviously they weren’t in love with JJ.I am calling BS on this. What was there to gain by faking out the Vikings? It sounds like Payton tried to move up for McCarthy and failed.x.com
abrunn1133
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Why does Sean Payton have a thread? One of the biggest d-bags in all of professional sports.
Chaka
Footballguy
Because it generates posts, even unnecessary ones.
nittanylion
Footballguy
If Sean Payton has his QB, look the heck out.
Around these parts, it's secondary if an NFL someone is a douchebag.
That's up to you if it matters.
It may sound cold and heartless, but except in rare cases, like the FBG Bowl, I compete in FF for $$$. Not $, not $$. $$$.
I have to be very selective about where I might be wrong. Super-serious risk-manager here.
Payton is a hell of a football coach at getting an immense statistical output from his offense, when he has his QB.
IMHO, he has his QB.
Grabbing Javonte, Jaleel and Sutton everywhere, at value...
...and in large rosters and 2qb/sf Leagues, Nix looks to me like a nice late round flyer.
YMMV.
Around these parts, it's secondary if an NFL someone is a douchebag.
That's up to you if it matters.
It may sound cold and heartless, but except in rare cases, like the FBG Bowl, I compete in FF for $$$. Not $, not $$. $$$.
I have to be very selective about where I might be wrong. Super-serious risk-manager here.
Payton is a hell of a football coach at getting an immense statistical output from his offense, when he has his QB.
IMHO, he has his QB.
Grabbing Javonte, Jaleel and Sutton everywhere, at value...
...and in large rosters and 2qb/sf Leagues, Nix looks to me like a nice late round flyer.
YMMV.
BIRDGANG52
Footballguy
He definitely needs some post Drew Brees success. Kind of like Bill Belichick, the more information we get as time goes by, it seems their success was more due to the Quarterback
Recency bias, Andy Reid has it all figured out. You want your last memories of you in the league to be associated with a HOF QB.
Don't kill your aura.
jvdesigns2002
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Has anybody else seen this? It’s pretty interesting and fascinating. This is the interview with Rael Enteen that ended up getting him fired. Effectively he claims that FBI and Roger Goodell used Bountygate as a cover up for Sean Payton and staff stealing and selling opioids and pain killers. I’m not sure how much I believe it as it seems to me that affluent people can generally just shop for doctors that will prescribe them pain killers—but who knows. In 2010–there was allegations about Saints staff members stealing Vicodin and pain killers from the teams drug locker.
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Smack Tripper
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If this was true, very fascinating because its not like the league can turn around and smash him if they were part of the coverup.Has anybody else seen this? It’s pretty interesting and fascinating. This is the interview with Rael Enteen that ended up getting him fired. Effectively he claims that FBI and Roger Goodell used Bountygate as a cover up for Sean Payton and staff stealing and selling opioids and pain killers. I’m not sure how much I believe it as it seems to me that affluent people can generally just shop for doctors that will prescribe them pain killers—but who knows. In 2010–there was allegations about Saints staff members stealing Vicodin and pain killers from the teams drug locker.
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That said, would the NFL risk all of this to protect a loose cannon like Payton?
Belichek doing spy gate was gamesmanship, even Gruden while crass and inappropriate, didn't commit a crime.
This is a whole web of felonies that even Goodell couldn't survive
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jvdesigns2002
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Agree with you. I do find it odd that the media said that Rael got fired for racist and insensitive comments—but I didn’t know about or hear about any of his comments regarding Bountygate being a coverup for an opioid scandal until watching the actual interview. The timing of Bountygate and a potential opioid scandal seem to be in line—because there was a small allegation of some prescription pain killers being stolen from the Saints medical locker in 2010–and I think Bountygate was 2011/12. If the theft of these opioids was systematic—that timeline could very well overlap—and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the NFL magnified Bountygate to cover up the opioid scandal. I’d have to think that Payton would probably be on board with that course of action—as being complicit in Bountygate hurts his reputation, and his ability to get hired less than him being involved in stealing and potentially trafficking opioids. I’m not sure where I fully stand on this—but I do believe that there is more to the story than the Saints medical locker being robbed of opioids once or twice.If this was true, very fascinating because its not like the league can turn around and smash him if they were part of the coverup.Has anybody else seen this? It’s pretty interesting and fascinating. This is the interview with Rael Enteen that ended up getting him fired. Effectively he claims that FBI and Roger Goodell used Bountygate as a cover up for Sean Payton and staff stealing and selling opioids and pain killers. I’m not sure how much I believe it as it seems to me that affluent people can generally just shop for doctors that will prescribe them pain killers—but who knows. In 2010–there was allegations about Saints staff members stealing Vicodin and pain killers from the teams drug locker.
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That said, would the NFL risk all of this to protect a loose cannon like Payton?
Belichek doing spy gate was gamesmanship, even Gruden while crass and inappropriate, didn't commit a crime.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Pretty staggering corruption if true. Payton et al likely wouldn't be selling these individually but would have a distribution partner that would then sell in wherever the market place is. Seems that would catch the attention of the state AG and other LE agencies.Agree with you. I do find it odd that the media said that Rael got fired for racist and insensitive comments—but I didn’t know about or hear about any of his comments regarding Bountygate being a coverup for an opioid scandal until watching the actual interview. The timing of Bountygate and a potential opioid scandal seem to be in line—because there was a small allegation of some prescription pain killers being stolen from the Saints medical locker in 2010–and I think Bountygate was 2011/12. If the theft of these opioids was systematic—that timeline could very well overlap—and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the NFL magnified Bountygate to cover up the opioid scandal. I’d have to think that Payton would probably be on board with that course of action—as being complicit in Bountygate hurts his reputation, and his ability to get hired less than him being involved in stealing and potentially trafficking opioids. I’m not sure where I fully stand on this—but I do believe that there is more to the story than the Saints medical locker being robbed of opioids once or twice.If this was true, very fascinating because its not like the league can turn around and smash him if they were part of the coverup.Has anybody else seen this? It’s pretty interesting and fascinating. This is the interview with Rael Enteen that ended up getting him fired. Effectively he claims that FBI and Roger Goodell used Bountygate as a cover up for Sean Payton and staff stealing and selling opioids and pain killers. I’m not sure how much I believe it as it seems to me that affluent people can generally just shop for doctors that will prescribe them pain killers—but who knows. In 2010–there was allegations about Saints staff members stealing Vicodin and pain killers from the teams drug locker.
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That said, would the NFL risk all of this to protect a loose cannon like Payton?
Belichek doing spy gate was gamesmanship, even Gruden while crass and inappropriate, didn't commit a crime.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I can totally see him doing distribution but selling them seems unpardonably skeevyPretty staggering corruption if true. Payton et al likely wouldn't be selling these individually but would have a distribution partner that would then sell in wherever the market place is. Seems that would catch the attention of the state AG and other LE agencies.Agree with you. I do find it odd that the media said that Rael got fired for racist and insensitive comments—but I didn’t know about or hear about any of his comments regarding Bountygate being a coverup for an opioid scandal until watching the actual interview. The timing of Bountygate and a potential opioid scandal seem to be in line—because there was a small allegation of some prescription pain killers being stolen from the Saints medical locker in 2010–and I think Bountygate was 2011/12. If the theft of these opioids was systematic—that timeline could very well overlap—and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the NFL magnified Bountygate to cover up the opioid scandal. I’d have to think that Payton would probably be on board with that course of action—as being complicit in Bountygate hurts his reputation, and his ability to get hired less than him being involved in stealing and potentially trafficking opioids. I’m not sure where I fully stand on this—but I do believe that there is more to the story than the Saints medical locker being robbed of opioids once or twice.If this was true, very fascinating because its not like the league can turn around and smash him if they were part of the coverup.Has anybody else seen this? It’s pretty interesting and fascinating. This is the interview with Rael Enteen that ended up getting him fired. Effectively he claims that FBI and Roger Goodell used Bountygate as a cover up for Sean Payton and staff stealing and selling opioids and pain killers. I’m not sure how much I believe it as it seems to me that affluent people can generally just shop for doctors that will prescribe them pain killers—but who knows. In 2010–there was allegations about Saints staff members stealing Vicodin and pain killers from the teams drug locker.
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That said, would the NFL risk all of this to protect a loose cannon like Payton?
Belichek doing spy gate was gamesmanship, even Gruden while crass and inappropriate, didn't commit a crime.
its not right or good or appropriate to distro drugs but if you thought you were doing a service to win or care for your guys, I can empathize but not excuse
If you exploited these guys giving up their bodies for side money making millions as a coach, see ya and never come back
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