Houston Texans sign DE Mario Williams (1 Viewer)

[jurb26]

Texans are morons. Casserly is a twit. As a Houstonian, I am extremely disappointed in this decision. Carr is awful. Davis is serviceable as a RB, but not over a full season. They just signed Weaver this off season. They are morons.

Let's see, last 4 DL's that went #1

Courtney Brown - garbage

Dan Wilkinson - awful

Russell Maryland - so-so

Steve Emtman :X

Pathetic move for what is becoming a joke of a franchise.

I'm glad someone said this. Terrible terrible move.

What did you expect... it's the Texans!

 

[KarmaPolice]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am taking the headline on NFL.com as it is signed and completed. Meaning they can't back out now

But there will be nothing that is legally binding in whatever is signed that states that the Texans MUST draft Williams. The contractual agreement will be IF the Texans draft Williams. Now, it may well be that the Texans do intend to draft Williams. But I do not believe that's set in stone yet.

Damn, are you in denial.

 

[guru_007]

PHENOMENAL! Re-do all the mocks, let the spin begin everywhere.

I have to give Mort credit, I listened to McShay, Mayock, Kiper, GM Jr. and Mort today and Mort is the only one that said this was going to happen. He said everyone wrongly assumed the Texans were using Williams as leverage but they really did see him as the #1 guy.

Mort also said that Ron Wolf keeps in touch with six current GMs on a regular basis and, for the first time since Wolf retired, all six GMs have a unanimous opinion on which player was the best prospect...Mario Williams.

Jason,If memory serves, you live in Philly right? There was a report that a Philadelphia newspaper reported that this is Casserly's last season and he'll be in the NFL front office next year. Have you read this?

 

[msommer]

Careful what you wish for Jets fans.  What if...

1. Texans - Mario

2. Saints - D'Brick

3. Titans - Bush

then...

4. Jest - Leinart, Young, Hawk, Davis, Huff, the rest????

This could really put a dent in what you get.  I'm guessing all Jest fans and brass were thinking Tennessee goes QB and you get whichever of the top three falls.

I'd rather have Bush, Mario, or D'Brick if I'm the Jets.  Taking the whatever is left is "sloppy seconds" after what you were licking your chops for.

Titans will not draft Bush. They already have Brown and Henry. They want a QB, and they probably want Young.Texans are morons. Casserly is a twit. As a Houstonian, I am extremely disappointed in this decision. Carr is awful. Davis is serviceable as a RB, but not over a full season. They just signed Weaver this off season. They are morons.

Let's see, last 4 DL's that went #1

Courtney Brown - garbage

Dan Wilkinson - awful

Russell Maryland - so-so

Steve Emtman :X

Pathetic move for what is becoming a joke of a franchise.

Henry will not be the reason they will not draft Bush. His contract calls for a 4M roster bonus next year (postponed from this year) - i.e. he can be cut easily. Brown is in his last year as well.

 

[stbugs]

Reminds me of this:

2. Green Bay - Tony Mandarich - T - Michigan State

3. Detroit - Barry Sanders - RB - Oklahoma State

And this goes to show you that one HOF RB is not what makes a Super Bowl winning team. Barry Sanders is a stud pure and simple, but he never sniffed a Super Bowl.What was the main difference between Detroit and GB? Brett Favre versus Scott Mitchell/whoever else they had and Reggie White instead of ???

 

[Texasmouth]

What's the reaction down in Texans with them getting neither Bush nor Young?

Something is going to HAVE to burn for this....if it were Detroit, the Riot gear would all ready be on....... I think this is a horrible move by the Texans. I think Williams will be a great player but not the same as getting a guy who is special like Reggie Bush. There must be more to it than what we are hearing......

 

[KarmaPolice]

I have thought for awhile that Bush would be a Jet after Saturday.

 

[Sidewinder]

Packers give #5 + J. Walker to Saints for #2 pick and draft Bush? Sounds plausable to me.

maybe to you. not even close in value ...

 

[gang-wars]

I'm still sceptical. They could have deals with all the top players, all that matters is who they actually select tomorrow.

This could still be a negotiation ploy with Bush.

This isnt a good posting. Turn your TV on and watch it for yourself. The deal is SIGNED. Different than offering a contract. Once a deal is signed it is done.

Don't the Texans have to draft him for the deal to be done? What if they don't draft him? I don't see why the Texans would add in a clause where if they don't draft him, they have to pay him XXXX dollars.

 

[jurb26]

Reminds me of this:

2. Green Bay - Tony Mandarich - T - Michigan State

3. Detroit - Barry Sanders - RB - Oklahoma State

And this goes to show you that one HOF RB is not what makes a Super Bowl winning team. Barry Sanders is a stud pure and simple, but he never sniffed a Super Bowl.What was the main difference between Detroit and GB? Brett Favre versus Scott Mitchell/whoever else they had and Reggie White instead of ???

The most glaring difference was in COACHING. To say that GB was better than Det mainly because of White vs. Sanders would be very misleading and wrong.

 

[LHUCKS]

There must be more to it than what we are hearing......

that's what I'm thinking

 

[Texasmouth]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am taking the headline on NFL.com as it is signed and completed. Meaning they can't back out now

But there will be nothing that is legally binding in whatever is signed that states that the Texans MUST draft Williams. The contractual agreement will be IF the Texans draft Williams. Now, it may well be that the Texans do intend to draft Williams. But I do not believe that's set in stone yet.

Damn, are you in denial.

Big time denial. This IS set in stone from what they are reporting on NFL Network and ESPN 2.

 

[guru_007]

Henry will not be the reason they will not draft Bush. His contract calls for a 4M roster bonus next year (postponed from this year) - i.e. he can be cut easily. Brown is in his last year as well.

Understood, however I doubt the Titan's are going to want to have so much precious salary devoted to their running backs, fragile and unproven. They desperately need a QB. I am pretty sure they are drafting Young unless Chow can convince them to go with Leinart.

 

[vitaflo]

Reminds me of this:

2.  Green Bay - Tony Mandarich - T - Michigan State

3.  Detroit - Barry Sanders - RB - Oklahoma State

And this goes to show you that one HOF RB is not what makes a Super Bowl winning team. Barry Sanders is a stud pure and simple, but he never sniffed a Super Bowl.What was the main difference between Detroit and GB? Brett Favre versus Scott Mitchell/whoever else they had and Reggie White instead of ???

Yeah, but could you have imagined the Pack with Favre, Sanders and White?

 

[Texasmouth]

There must be more to it than what we are hearing......

that's what I'm thinking

I dont know about you but I am guessing Bush's contract demands were just unreal and the Texans were never really sold on taking him in the first place. Could be because Kubiak is from the Shanahan stable and he has been taught that running back value comes from some place other than the first round........

 

[jurb26]

Reminds me of this:

2. Green Bay - Tony Mandarich - T - Michigan State

3. Detroit - Barry Sanders - RB - Oklahoma State

And this goes to show you that one HOF RB is not what makes a Super Bowl winning team. Barry Sanders is a stud pure and simple, but he never sniffed a Super Bowl.What was the main difference between Detroit and GB? Brett Favre versus Scott Mitchell/whoever else they had and Reggie White instead of ???

Yeah, but could you have imagined the Pack with Favre, Sanders and White?

Dynasty... ohhh wait... dynasty #2.

 

[Assani Fisher]

So is this official? It seems as if we're getting a ton of differing opinions here!

For argument's sake, lets say that something tragic happens to Williams tonight and he can no longer play pro football...is Houston binded to take him even then?

 

[Couch Potato]

I think what this means is the Texans have renewed faith in Tony Hollings to lead their team into the future. Oh yeah, they have to find him and re-sign him first...

 

[thewaterboys]

6 years - $54 million

 

[Portis 26]

This isnt a good posting. Turn your TV on and watch it for yourself. The deal is SIGNED. Different than offering a contract. Once a deal is signed it is done.

Sure. I'm sure I was wrong to suspect that it was a ploy. I still do stick by the point I was making, which is that the deal that's signed only means anything if the Texans actually select Williams. Nothing in the deal forces them to select him. They would be completely in their rights to select Bush tomorrow, in which case the deal would go out of the window. In strict legal terms, they cannot sign Williams to a contract yet because he is not officially theirs yet. He will only be theirs once his name is called out tomorrow. What they are signing is an expression of INTENT, ie we WILL sign you to this contract WHEN we draft you.But if Williams falls out of bed tomorrow and tears his ACL they could draft and sign someone else with no consequence. That's a deliberately absurd example, and it obviously won't happen, but I just bring it up to illustrate my point.

 

[stbugs]

Careful what you wish for Jets fans.  What if...

1. Texans - Mario

2. Saints - D'Brick

3. Titans - Bush

then...

4. Jest - Leinart, Young, Hawk, Davis, Huff, the rest????

This could really put a dent in what you get.  I'm guessing all Jest fans and brass were thinking Tennessee goes QB and you get whichever of the top three falls.

I'd rather have Bush, Mario, or D'Brick if I'm the Jets.  Taking the whatever is left is "sloppy seconds" after what you were licking your chops for.

Titans will not draft Bush. They already have Brown and Henry. They want a QB, and they probably want Young.Texans are morons. Casserly is a twit. As a Houstonian, I am extremely disappointed in this decision. Carr is awful. Davis is serviceable as a RB, but not over a full season. They just signed Weaver this off season. They are morons.

Let's see, last 4 DL's that went #1

Courtney Brown - garbage

Dan Wilkinson - awful

Russell Maryland - so-so

Steve Emtman :X

Pathetic move for what is becoming a joke of a franchise.

I looked up DE and here are the DE's picked in the top 15 the last 10 years. Ware isn't actually a DE, but was listed as one before the draft. The first DE has a pretty decent track record if you discount injuries.CODE

2005 1 1 11 11 Demarcus Ware Cowboys Troy State

2003 1 1 9 9 Kevin Williams Vikings Oklahoma State

2003 2 1 10 10 Terrell Suggs Ravens Arizona State

2003  3 1 14 14 Michael Haynes Bears Penn State

2003  4 1 15 15 Jerome McDougle Eagles Miami (FL)

2002 1 1 2 2 Julius Peppers Panthers North Carolina

2002  2 1 11 11 Dwight Freeney Colts Syracuse

2001 1 1 4 4 Justin Smith Bengals Missouri

2001  2 1 7 7 Andre Carter 49ers California

2001  3 1 10 10 Jamal Reynolds Packers Florida State

2000 1 1 1 1 Courtney Brown Browns Penn State

2000  2 1 12 12 Shaun Ellis Jets Tennessee

1998 1 1 3 3 Andre Wadsworth Cardinals Florida State

1998  2 1 6 6 Grant Wistrom Rams Nebraska

1998  3 1 8 8 Greg Ellis Cowboys North Carolina

1997 1 1 4 4 Peter Boulware Ravens Florida State

1997  2 1 14 14 Reinard Wilson Bengals Florida State

1996 1 1 3 3 Simeon Rice Cardinals Illinois

1996 2 1 5 5 Cedric Jones Giants Oklahoma

1996  3 1 12 12 Regan Upshaw Buccaneers California

Cherry picking the bad DL is like looking at Ryan Leaf et al and ignoring Aikman, Manning, etc. There are plenty of impact DL that have been taken early like Bruce Smith, Reggie White (USFL-but would have gone very early in NFL as well), Richard Seymour, Peppers, etc.

 

[LHUCKS]

ESPN is reporting it as official...not that that means anything, but it sure does look like a done deal.

 

[Texasmouth]

ESPN is reporting it as official...not that that means anything, but it sure does look like a done deal.

6 Years $54 million dollars

 

[andyk]

There must be more to it than what we are hearing......

that's what I'm thinking

Is it possible that Bush could be looking at criminal charges regarding his parents dubious activities last year.

 

[jurb26]

Careful what you wish for Jets fans. What if...

1. Texans - Mario

2. Saints - D'Brick

3. Titans - Bush

then...

4. Jest - Leinart, Young, Hawk, Davis, Huff, the rest????

This could really put a dent in what you get. I'm guessing all Jest fans and brass were thinking Tennessee goes QB and you get whichever of the top three falls.

I'd rather have Bush, Mario, or D'Brick if I'm the Jets. Taking the whatever is left is "sloppy seconds" after what you were licking your chops for.

Titans will not draft Bush. They already have Brown and Henry. They want a QB, and they probably want Young.Texans are morons. Casserly is a twit. As a Houstonian, I am extremely disappointed in this decision. Carr is awful. Davis is serviceable as a RB, but not over a full season. They just signed Weaver this off season. They are morons.

Let's see, last 4 DL's that went #1

Courtney Brown - garbage

Dan Wilkinson - awful

Russell Maryland - so-so

Steve Emtman :X

Pathetic move for what is becoming a joke of a franchise.

I looked up DE and here are the DE's picked in the top 15 the last 10 years. Ware isn't actually a DE, but was listed as one before the draft. The first DE has a pretty decent track record if you discount injuries.CODE

2005 1 1 11 11 Demarcus Ware Cowboys Troy State

2003 1 1 9 9 Kevin Williams Vikings Oklahoma State

2003 2 1 10 10 Terrell Suggs Ravens Arizona State

2003 3 1 14 14 Michael Haynes Bears Penn State

2003 4 1 15 15 Jerome McDougle Eagles Miami (FL)

2002 1 1 2 2 Julius Peppers Panthers North Carolina

2002 2 1 11 11 Dwight Freeney Colts Syracuse

2001 1 1 4 4 Justin Smith Bengals Missouri

2001 2 1 7 7 Andre Carter 49ers California

2001 3 1 10 10 Jamal Reynolds Packers Florida State

2000 1 1 1 1 Courtney Brown Browns Penn State

2000 2 1 12 12 Shaun Ellis Jets Tennessee

1998 1 1 3 3 Andre Wadsworth Cardinals Florida State

1998 2 1 6 6 Grant Wistrom Rams Nebraska

1998 3 1 8 8 Greg Ellis Cowboys North Carolina

1997 1 1 4 4 Peter Boulware Ravens Florida State

1997 2 1 14 14 Reinard Wilson Bengals Florida State

1996 1 1 3 3 Simeon Rice Cardinals Illinois

1996 2 1 5 5 Cedric Jones Giants Oklahoma

1996 3 1 12 12 Regan Upshaw Buccaneers California

Cherry picking the bad DL is like looking at Ryan Leaf et al and ignoring Aikman, Manning, etc. There are plenty of impact DL that have been taken early like Bruce Smith, Reggie White (USFL-but would have gone very early in NFL as well), Richard Seymour, Peppers, etc.

Thats a less than 50% hit rate. What do you think it is for RBs? It's been said before, Dline is the highest bust rate of all positions.

 

[Deuceman]

Just too many RED FLAGS to select Bush. The last few days with all the stories coming out have scared off the Texans and cost him a few millions.

 

[fsufan]

Dominic Davis's fantasy value rises from the dead.

I was thinking the same thing

 

[Texasmouth]

This isnt a good posting. Turn your TV on and watch it for yourself. The deal is SIGNED. Different than offering a contract. Once a deal is signed it is done.

Sure. I'm sure I was wrong to suspect that it was a ploy. I still do stick by the point I was making, which is that the deal that's signed only means anything if the Texans actually select Williams. Nothing in the deal forces them to select him. They would be completely in their rights to select Bush tomorrow, in which case the deal would go out of the window. In strict legal terms, they cannot sign Williams to a contract yet because he is not officially theirs yet. He will only be theirs once his name is called out tomorrow. What they are signing is an expression of INTENT, ie we WILL sign you to this contract WHEN we draft you.But if Williams falls out of bed tomorrow and tears his ACL they could draft and sign someone else with no consequence. That's a deliberately absurd example, and it obviously won't happen, but I just bring it up to illustrate my point.

I just dont think you are understanding this. No, the Texans cannot draft anyone else. It doesn't work that way. I am listening to this live on Sirius radio, the contract is exactly that, a contract. It is signed, he is a TEXAN. Terms of the deal have been released, it is signed. It is done. Beleive what you want but that is how it works. The team drafting number 1 is the only team allowed to do this.

 

[LHUCKS]

There must be more to it than what we are hearing......

that's what I'm thinking

Is it possible that Bush could be looking at criminal charges regarding his parents dubious activities last year.

nah...there's nothing criminally wrong with taking freebies/gifts...it only becomes criminal if you lie to a judge.

 

[Sidewinder]

It's on the official Texans website for god's sake:

Houston Texans

Hours before the 2006 NFL Draft, the Texans and Mario Williams agreed to a contract Friday night. On Saturday, the North Carolina State defensive end will become the team's second number-one pick in franchise history.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

So will it be the 1.29 and 1.4 for 1.2?

I don't have the draft pick values in front of me...could they do No.4 and No.35 for No.2? Or is that still giving up too much?

From the NFL chart:2 = 2600 pts

4 = 1800

29 = 640

35 = 550

So 4 and 29 are close to 2. (2440 to 2600).

 

[Bonzai]

my head hurts...

 

[Redwes25]

This isnt a good posting. Turn your TV on and watch it for yourself. The deal is SIGNED. Different than offering a contract. Once a deal is signed it is done.

Sure. I'm sure I was wrong to suspect that it was a ploy. I still do stick by the point I was making, which is that the deal that's signed only means anything if the Texans actually select Williams. Nothing in the deal forces them to select him. They would be completely in their rights to select Bush tomorrow, in which case the deal would go out of the window. In strict legal terms, they cannot sign Williams to a contract yet because he is not officially theirs yet. He will only be theirs once his name is called out tomorrow. What they are signing is an expression of INTENT, ie we WILL sign you to this contract WHEN we draft you.But if Williams falls out of bed tomorrow and tears his ACL they could draft and sign someone else with no consequence. That's a deliberately absurd example, and it obviously won't happen, but I just bring it up to illustrate my point.

Have you seen the contract? I sure haven't and you can't really make such assumptions without reading it. It is also conceivable that they could have put something in the contract forcing them to sign Williams or texans have to pay damages to Williams.

 

[guru_007]

Careful what you wish for Jets fans.  What if...

1. Texans - Mario

2. Saints - D'Brick

3. Titans - Bush

then...

4. Jest - Leinart, Young, Hawk, Davis, Huff, the rest????

This could really put a dent in what you get.  I'm guessing all Jest fans and brass were thinking Tennessee goes QB and you get whichever of the top three falls.

I'd rather have Bush, Mario, or D'Brick if I'm the Jets.  Taking the whatever is left is "sloppy seconds" after what you were licking your chops for.

Titans will not draft Bush. They already have Brown and Henry. They want a QB, and they probably want Young.Texans are morons. Casserly is a twit. As a Houstonian, I am extremely disappointed in this decision. Carr is awful. Davis is serviceable as a RB, but not over a full season. They just signed Weaver this off season. They are morons.

Let's see, last 4 DL's that went #1

Courtney Brown - garbage

Dan Wilkinson - awful

Russell Maryland - so-so

Steve Emtman :X

Pathetic move for what is becoming a joke of a franchise.

I looked up DE and here are the DE's picked in the top 15 the last 10 years. Ware isn't actually a DE, but was listed as one before the draft. The first DE has a pretty decent track record if you discount injuries.CODE

2005 1 1 11 11 Demarcus Ware Cowboys Troy State

2003 1 1 9 9 Kevin Williams Vikings Oklahoma State

2003 2 1 10 10 Terrell Suggs Ravens Arizona State

2003  3 1 14 14 Michael Haynes Bears Penn State

2003  4 1 15 15 Jerome McDougle Eagles Miami (FL)

2002 1 1 2 2 Julius Peppers Panthers North Carolina

2002  2 1 11 11 Dwight Freeney Colts Syracuse

2001 1 1 4 4 Justin Smith Bengals Missouri

2001  2 1 7 7 Andre Carter 49ers California

2001  3 1 10 10 Jamal Reynolds Packers Florida State

2000 1 1 1 1 Courtney Brown Browns Penn State

2000  2 1 12 12 Shaun Ellis Jets Tennessee

1998 1 1 3 3 Andre Wadsworth Cardinals Florida State

1998  2 1 6 6 Grant Wistrom Rams Nebraska

1998  3 1 8 8 Greg Ellis Cowboys North Carolina

1997 1 1 4 4 Peter Boulware Ravens Florida State

1997  2 1 14 14 Reinard Wilson Bengals Florida State

1996 1 1 3 3 Simeon Rice Cardinals Illinois

1996 2 1 5 5 Cedric Jones Giants Oklahoma

1996  3 1 12 12 Regan Upshaw Buccaneers California

Cherry picking the bad DL is like looking at Ryan Leaf et al and ignoring Aikman, Manning, etc. There are plenty of impact DL that have been taken early like Bruce Smith, Reggie White (USFL-but would have gone very early in NFL as well), Richard Seymour, Peppers, etc.

Thats a less than 50% hit rate. What do you think it is for RBs? It's been said before, Dline is the highest bust rate of all positions.

I want Reggie Bush over EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE GUYS THAT ARE BOLDED.

 

[stbugs]

Reminds me of this:

2.  Green Bay - Tony Mandarich - T - Michigan State

3.  Detroit - Barry Sanders - RB - Oklahoma State

And this goes to show you that one HOF RB is not what makes a Super Bowl winning team. Barry Sanders is a stud pure and simple, but he never sniffed a Super Bowl.What was the main difference between Detroit and GB? Brett Favre versus Scott Mitchell/whoever else they had and Reggie White instead of ???

Yeah, but could you have imagined the Pack with Favre, Sanders and White?

Absolutely, they would have been even better.Just wanted to bring everybody back down to earth about Reggie Bush. That is a lot of money to give a RB, when IMHO, they don't always have as big of a team impact as one would think. Not saying that a great RB doesn't help, but it is usually a position like QB that swings a teams fortune around a lot quicker.

Now that said, I don't think David Carr is going to bring the Texans to the promised land either, but if you offered me a choice between the top QBs or top RBs, I would never take LT, Portis, Alexander or Bush over Manning, Brady, McNabb or Palmer (pre-injury).

If, and this is a big if, because there is no such thing as a safe draft pick, Mario Williams is a Bruce Smith/Reggie White type of player on D, then I would much rather have Williams and DD than Bush/DD and Seth Walker.

 

[Portis 26]

I just dont think you are understanding this. No, the Texans cannot draft anyone else. It doesn't work that way. I am listening to this live on Sirius radio, the contract is exactly that, a contract. It is signed, he is a TEXAN. Terms of the deal have been released, it is signed. It is done. Beleive what you want but that is how it works. The team drafting number 1 is the only team allowed to do this.

Well, let's say you're right. The copy on NFL.com states:

The Houston Texans have signed North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams and plan to take him with the first overall pick in the 2006 NFL Draft.

Note PLAN. What happens if they don't?

 

[LHUCKS]

Just too many RED FLAGS to select Bush. The last few days with all the stories coming out have scared off the Texans and cost him a few millions.

Nah...it was one of either two things:1) Bush's agent is a jackass and was asking for excessive money, so Texas said F-off...so Texas didn't like the trade offers and just decided to take Mario for a bargain price.

2) Texas wanted Mario all along, there were no teams interested in trading up or there were no trades that were appealing, so they used Bush as a smokescreen to get Mario at a bargain price.

 

[Football Menace]

As a Saints fan,

We either get Bush, or trade the pick to the Jets or 49ers for loads of picks and still get an elite player. BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!

Damn the #4 and #29. WE'VE GOT BUSH!!!!!! If they're smart.

 

[BassNBrew]

So will it be the 1.29 and 1.4 for 1.2?

I don't have the draft pick values in front of me...could they do No.4 and No.35 for No.2? Or is that still giving up too much?

From the NFL chart:2 = 2600 pts

4 = 1800

29 = 640

35 = 550

So 4 and 29 are close to 2. (2440 to 2600).

Not in this case. Look for NO to select Bush and then trade him to NY after Tenn takes Young. I guessing a second or even third will do the trick.

 

[Deuceman]

Just too many RED FLAGS to select Bush. The last few days with all the stories coming out have scared off the Texans and cost him a few millions.

Nah...it was one of either two things:1) Bush's agent is a jackass and was asking for excessive money, so Texas said F-off.

2) Texas wanted Mario all along, there were no teams interested in trading up, so they used Bush as a smokescreen to get Mario at a bargain price.

#1 is RED FLAG too. The agent should also be fired TONIGHT!!!!

 

[jchap31]

No way N.O. takes Bush. Deuce signed a 6 year 50+ mil contract two years ago and is HIGHLY popular with the fan base here in Louisiana and Brees just inked the 60 mil contract. I see a trade down to get some Defensive help and O-line help (Jets' #4, #29, and a future pick??)

I'd sacrifice Bush for A.J. Hawk, Nick Mangold and a future draft pick

Hell, trade the 2.2 for Javon Walker while you're at it Loomis and maybe we'd make a wildcard berth this year!

 

[Jason Wood]

PHENOMENAL! Re-do all the mocks, let the spin begin everywhere.

I have to give Mort credit, I listened to McShay, Mayock, Kiper, GM Jr. and Mort today and Mort is the only one that said this was going to happen. He said everyone wrongly assumed the Texans were using Williams as leverage but they really did see him as the #1 guy.

Mort also said that Ron Wolf keeps in touch with six current GMs on a regular basis and, for the first time since Wolf retired, all six GMs have a unanimous opinion on which player was the best prospect...Mario Williams.

Jason,If memory serves, you live in Philly right? There was a report that a Philadelphia newspaper reported that this is Casserly's last season and he'll be in the NFL front office next year. Have you read this?

There have been widespread reports that Casserly is going to step down after the draft to replace Art Shell (who has obviously gone back to coaching in Oakland).$26.5 million in guaranteed money, according to ESPN News.

 

[Football Jones]

Yes, Williams is officially a Texan. This can be done via the rule which allows the team with the first pick to make their selection early (completed by a signed contract).

 

[LHUCKS]

No way N.O. takes Bush. Deuce signed a 6 year 50+ mil contract two years ago and is HIGHLY popular with the fan base here in Louisiana and Brees just inked the 60 mil contract. I see a trade down to get some Defensive help and O-line help (Jets' #4, #29, and a future pick??)

Bush is going to slide a tad if NO doesn't trade the pick.

 

[Don Quixote]

As a Dom Davis Dynasty Owner...

 

[Texasmouth]

I just dont think you are understanding this. No, the Texans cannot draft anyone else. It doesn't work that way. I am listening to this live on Sirius radio, the contract is exactly that, a contract. It is signed, he is a TEXAN. Terms of the deal have been released, it is signed. It is done. Beleive what you want but that is how it works. The team drafting number 1 is the only team allowed to do this.

Well, let's say you're right. The copy on NFL.com states:

The Houston Texans have signed North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams and plan to take him with the first overall pick in the 2006 NFL Draft.

Note PLAN. What happens if they don't?

What is the deal with all of the denial here? The contract is SIGNED they have to take him. There isn't a question of what if. Once the deal is done, it is done. They cant just ignore a contract. It doesn't work that way. I am hearing all about it right now. Better yet....what if a big dragon swoops out of the sky and eats the commish, do they still get to have the draft.....

The deal is done. Move on.........

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Nothing is a done deal until at least noon tomorrow.

That would be when Mario (or Bush) could officially become a Texan.

Texasmouth - sorry if you're upset at my earlier, but this is the night before the draft and this year, if any year, anything is still possible.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I just dont think you are understanding this. No, the Texans cannot draft anyone else. It doesn't work that way. I am listening to this live on Sirius radio, the contract is exactly that, a contract. It is signed, he is a TEXAN. Terms of the deal have been released, it is signed. It is done. Beleive what you want but that is how it works. The team drafting number 1 is the only team allowed to do this.

Well, let's say you're right. The copy on NFL.com states:

The Houston Texans have signed North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams and plan to take him with the first overall pick in the 2006 NFL Draft.

Note PLAN. What happens if they don't?

A fascinating case of denial.

 

[Deuceman]

Where does BUSH end up now? I think SF. Just a hunch!

 

[Texasmouth]

Yes, Williams is officially a Texan. This can be done via the rule which allows the team with the first pick to make their selection early (completed by a signed contract).