How do you feel about baseball this year? (1 Viewer)

[Gally]

Don’t feel like posting this in the baseball - why after the Altuve error we’re all 3 runs considered unearned?  I’m sure it’s always been this way but I would think on any HR, that at least the batter should be considered earned.  Or is any run scored after that unearned?  That just seems dumb to me.

The way you figure out if runs are earned or not is to reconstruct the inning without the error and see if the runs would have scored.  For example,  If the first batter gets on by error (should have been an out) and the next batter hits a HR....then the runner on base by error is unearned and the batter is earned.  If the first batter got on by error and the next two batters get out then the 4th batter hits a HR all of the runs are unearned because the 4th batter should never have been up in the first place. 

I hope that helps clarify. 

 

[Summer Wheat]

Kershaw becomes the first pitcher in history to allow back to back home runs in a playoff game 3 times.  

Kershaw begged off of his start today, saying back is sore.    Wondering if he just does not want to pitch in the playoffs anymore.

 

[AAABatteries]

I think if it would have ended the inning everything after is unearned.

Yes. None of the runs would have happened without the error occurring. 

Correct.  And I think this is the way it should be scored.  

That’s what I figured but seems kind of dumb to me.  Guy could give up 10 HRs after an error.  I get the logic, just seems like it could be improved on. 

 

[Gally]

That’s what I figured but seems kind of dumb to me.  Guy could give up 10 HRs after an error.  I get the logic, just seems like it could be improved on. 

That doesn't necessarily mean they are all unearned.  It just matters if they shouldn't have happened if the error did not occur.  A single error doesn't make everything unearned. 

 

[fred_1_15301]

That doesn't necessarily mean they are all unearned.  It just matters if they shouldn't have happened if the error did not occur.  A single error doesn't make everything unearned. 

I think what he's saying is after the 3rd theoretical out, the guy could give up 10 HRs and they would all be unearned.  That's correct but I disagree that it's dumb.  First, in reality that's an extreme that would never happen.  Second, why should the pitcher be punished when he did his job but was let down by the defense?

 

[Gally]

I think what he's saying is after the 3rd theoretical out, the guy could give up 10 HRs and they would all be unearned.  That's correct but I disagree that it's dumb.  First, in reality that's an extreme that would never happen.  Second, why should the pitcher be punished when he did his job but was let down by the defense?

I agree completely.  He shouldn't have been out there.  He is using extra pitches that shouldn't have been needed etc, etc...…..

I mean in the end it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of the game because unearned runs count just the same as earned runs when it comes to winning and losing.  From a fantasy perspective, there were many times when my pitcher was on the verge of a quality start (we reward QS's highly over wins) and an error extended the 6th inning and then he gets pulled and didn't qualify.  That is very painful...hahaa

 

[fred_1_15301]

I agree completely.  He shouldn't have been out there.  He is using extra pitches that shouldn't have been needed etc, etc...…..

I mean in the end it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of the game because unearned runs count just the same as earned runs when it comes to winning and losing.  From a fantasy perspective, there were many times when my pitcher was on the verge of a quality start (we reward QS's highly over wins) and an error extended the 6th inning and then he gets pulled and didn't qualify.  That is very painful...hahaa

Very painful indeed.  On a completely unrelated note, owning Blake Snell this year in a QS league was maddening.  I mean it actually felt like Schtick from the Rays manager pulling him so many times just before completing 6 innings (even when he was pitching well and a relatively low pitch count).  Maddening!

 

[AAABatteries]

I think what he's saying is after the 3rd theoretical out, the guy could give up 10 HRs and they would all be unearned.  That's correct but I disagree that it's dumb.  First, in reality that's an extreme that would never happen.  Second, why should the pitcher be punished when he did his job but was let down by the defense?

I agree my hypothetical wouldn’t happen but I disagree that a pitcher has done his job in all scenarios.  I’m not sure there’s a better solution to it though so it’s not a huge deal to me.  Just thought it was interesting.

 

[Gally]

Very painful indeed.  On a completely unrelated note, owning Blake Snell this year in a QS league was maddening.  I mean it actually felt like Schtick from the Rays manager pulling him so many times just before completing 6 innings (even when he was pitching well and a relatively low pitch count).  Maddening!

I was facing him in one of those outings and he was cruising along.  Got the first two batters out in the 6th inning and then the coach came out and pulled him.  I fell on the floor as I couldn't believe it.  There was no reason to pull him but yet they did.  It was awesome for me going against him.  hahahahah

It seems like there were a lot of starters pulled this year with 2/3 of an inning completed.  This happened in many different innings (5th, 6th, 7th) and I wonder if it had to do with the new 3 batter rule for relievers.  By doing this the manager could skirt that rule by getting the inning finished and then change pitchers without the requirement.  It was just something I noticed and have no idea if it is the reason. 

 

[ChiefD]

How about when the pitcher commits an error and then the runs he lets in after that are unearned?

Stupid rule book. 

 

[Buffaloes]

I agree my hypothetical wouldn’t happen but I disagree that a pitcher has done his job in all scenarios.  I’m not sure there’s a better solution to it though so it’s not a huge deal to me.  Just thought it was interesting.

if a pitcher gets 3 outs, he's done his job, right?

If a runner gets on 1st on an E5 with no outs and the next guy homers, it's 1 earned and 1 unearned run. The HR is still earned.

I think the scoring is on point.

ETA: except when it's an E1. Then he had that run coming to him.

 

[Gally]

How about when the pitcher commits an error and then the runs he lets in after that are unearned?

Stupid rule book. 

The hitting team still didn't earn the run.  Hence it goes as unearned.  I mean it says it right there in the word itself.  hahahaha

 

[Gally]

How about when the pitcher commits an error and then the runs he lets in after that are unearned?

Stupid rule book. 

Now if you want to talk stupid why does the batter get a base hit if the batted ball hits a runner preventing a fielder from making a routine play?  Shouldn't that count like a fielder's choice since the runner is out and the batter is awarded first?  Instead the batter gets a base hit. 

The runner is also only out if there is a fielder there to make a play.  For example if the infield is with a runner on third and a batted ball hits the runner after it passed the infielders who were in then the runner isn't out because nobody could have made a play.

 

[AAABatteries]

Anderson playing with fire.  If he can get through 2-3 more innings they can bring on the pen.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I was facing him in one of those outings and he was cruising along.  Got the first two batters out in the 6th inning and then the coach came out and pulled him.  I fell on the floor as I couldn't believe it.  There was no reason to pull him but yet they did.  It was awesome for me going against him.  hahahahah

It seems like there were a lot of starters pulled this year with 2/3 of an inning completed.  This happened in many different innings (5th, 6th, 7th) and I wonder if it had to do with the new 3 batter rule for relievers.  By doing this the manager could skirt that rule by getting the inning finished and then change pitchers without the requirement.  It was just something I noticed and have no idea if it is the reason. 

Ahhh that’s a good point.  I hadn’t thought about that.  Snell must have had the best numbers for a pitcher without logging a QS.  Anyways I just benched him in my playoffs and it worked out well.

 

[AAABatteries]

They’ll pull Anderson after 4 innings.  I think it’s a good call by Snitker - take him out with the lead and keep that confidence up.  He was about to face the top of the lineup for the 3rd time so ideal time to bring in a reliever.

 

[AAABatteries]

I think there was no chance Gonsolin was facing Freddie this inning.  Smart call to pull him.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Kershaw begged off of his start today, saying back is sore.    Wondering if he just does not want to pitch in the playoffs anymore.

Im sure that’s it

 

[Capella]

Kiermaier is really something in CF. I’ll never stop being surprised by that guy. 

 

[CletiusMaximus]

What’s more cringe - Jennifer Garner Capital One ads or the dude and his ponytail dad selling boner pills? 
 

 

[AAABatteries]

Thank you baby Jesus

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Ugh

 

[AAABatteries]

Snitker almost got too cute there.  Tomlin has no business being in there.  And even though they hung on he may have let the Dodgers bats get started.

 

[AAABatteries]

Altuve or Steve Sax?

 

[Capella]

It appears that Altuve is...

(•_•) / ( •_•)>⌐■-■ / (⌐■_■),

...short-arming his throws 

 

[AAABatteries]

Some definite schaudenfraude going on for baseball fans with Altuve.

 

[Zegras11]

That's a damn shame

 

[CGRdrJoe]

That's a damn shame

Yeah, hopefully the bats are awake now

 

[Capella]

Defense wins championships 

 

[Capella]

Loving that basecam. Here is this guy’s foot!

 

[Osaurus]

Defense wins championships 

Yarbrough held up better than I thought he would. 

 

[gump]

Such a weird feeling as a Rays fan...I was practically crying when Aki stepped on 2nd base vs the Sox to win the ‘08 Pennant. If the win this Pennant...I’ll be happy...but nowhere near the same level. 

 

[Capella]

Such a weird feeling as a Rays fan...I was practically crying when Aki stepped on 2nd base vs the Sox to win the ‘08 Pennant. If the win this Pennant...I’ll be happy...but nowhere near the same level. 

08 was unexpected and kind of unreal. The franchise has been really good (for the most part) since 08. It’s more of a relief that they may finally win one, much like the Lightning in a way. Imo 

 

[Grahamburn]

It definitely has a different feel. Weird. The regular season was a blur. I usually go to 5+ games a year and watch every night.  Odd not to be able to. 
 

Then the playoffs were starting while the Bolts made their run. 
 

 

[gump]

08 was unexpected and kind of unreal. The franchise has been really good (for the most part) since 08. It’s more of a relief that they may finally win one, much like the Lightning in a way. Imo 

Yea, agree about a sense of relief...the Bucs were the extreme example of that!  I'm sure if it happens too, i'll feel different than i do right now thinking about how I'll feel if it happens.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Better save some for tomorrow 

 

[JaxBill]

What Braves outfielder pitches innings 6 thru 9?

 

[Buffaloes]

11 runs in the 1st, huh?

 

[Parrothead]

just turned it on..  I see the Dodgers missed an XP..  

oops - there is was..  14-0

 

[Cowboysfan8]

What Braves outfielder pitches innings 6 thru 9?

Sandoval 

 

[WDIK2]

Had to text a couple of my Cardinal friends to let them know they no longer held the record for most runs in the 1st in a playoff game.  I thought it was a couple years ago against the Braves, but it was just last year?!?  :(  

ETA:  Oh wait, is it the record for most runs in any playoff inning?

 

[gump]

Arozarena is the hottest postseason hitter since...Bonds?

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I'll always love Zack Greinke.

Zack Greinke: “For me, it’s nice not having fans in the stands. Because there’s no one trying to talk to you and ask for autographs and wanting to take pictures and all that stuff. I don’t like any of that stuff.”

 

[facook]

I'll always love Zack Greinke.

Zack Greinke: “For me, it’s nice not having fans in the stands. Because there’s no one trying to talk to you and ask for autographs and wanting to take pictures and all that stuff. I don’t like any of that stuff.”

____ Wins game 4 of ALCS....

 

[Osaurus]

Looks like the Rays and Stros are heading to game 6. Ugh

 

[Capella]

Update: not currently feeling so great about the baseball 

 

[Cowboysfan8]

The wind is howling, so they decide to open the roof AFTER batting practice and warmups

makes sense 

 

[TripleThreat]

Acuna at first and Freeman at the plate seemed to both be bothered by sand in their eyes

 

[gump]

The way the announcers are hyping the Rays bullpen, we know what happens next.