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Hurricane Irma Updates - Mia/TB likely to move locations or date. (1 Viewer)

Mavis said:
This narrative is overblown IMO. Its always easy for others who dont wear helmets, pads and hit each other daily to tell others they dont need a week off. 
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I'm not saying they don't need a week off. It is definitely undesirable to take that away, but they find themselves having to choose from all undesirable outcomes.

And current NFL schedules -- including just last year -- occasionally have teams playing for 16 straight weeks. And this year, potentially 15 straight weeks for some teams. This is really no different.

What should really happen is that the NFL should cut at least 2 preseason games, make the regular season 18 weeks to play 16 games, and then give all playoff teams an off week before the first week of games. That would show they care about the players, and it would also have a side effect of making situations like these more manageable. Will they ever consider implementing such measures? There is no sign of it.

 
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Just Win Baby said:
I'm not saying they don't need a week off. It is definitely undesirable to take that away, but they find themselves having to choose from all undesirable outcomes.

And current NFL schedules -- including just last year -- occasionally have teams playing for 16 straight weeks. And this year, potentially 15 straight weeks for some teams. This is really no different.

What should really happen is that the NFL should cut at least 2 preseason games, make the regular season 18 weeks to play 16 games, and then give all playoff teams an off week before the first week of games. That would show they care about the players, and it would also have a side effect of making situations like these more manageable. Will they ever consider implementing such measures? There is no sign of it.
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If you recall, this thread was started on Sunday...some random dude (myself) on the Internet with no weather knowledge can look at this and start a thread realizing its a problem, but the NFL cant make a decision on this and its Wednesday? 

They can and could have gotten the teams out, with the resources and money they have, they still could. Are people who live in Florida new to hurricanes and forget to be prepared for them every year? No, neither are the people who have entities there. I feel for the people in Florida as these are unpreventable, I have family there and am a Katrina survivor... but they knew this was coming since Sunday and so did the NFL. Thats not being unsympathetic, its wondering what is taking people so long to get out? As long as an NFL stadium sits vacant this weekend with the time they had to prepare? Inexcusable to move game to bye. 

You can think the NFL could have done WAY better here and still care about the people of Florida. It seems some on twitter seem to think ppd of this game is the only option... it wasnt and isnt. The NFL has vast resources regular people will never have and they have had since Sunday, dont let that be missed in all this. 

 
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Mavis said:
If you recall, this thread was started on Sunday...some random dude (myself) on the Internet with no weather knowledge can look at this and start a thread realizing its a problem, but the NFL cant make a decision on this and its Wednesday? 

They can and could have gotten the teams out, with the resources and money they have, they do. Are people who live in Florida new to hurricanes and forget to be prepared for them every year? I feel for the people in Florida as these are unpreventable, I have family there and am a Katrina survivor... but they knew this was coming since Sunday. Thats not being unsympathetic, its wondering what is taking people so long to get out? As long as an NFL stadium sits vacant this weekend with the time they had to prepare? Inexcusable to move game to bye. 

You can think the NFL could have done WAY better here and still care about the people of Florida. It seems some on twitter seem to think ppd of this game is the only option... it wasnt and isnt. The NFL has vast resources regular people will never have and they have had since Sunday, dont let that be missed in all this. 
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Since you mention Katrina, I recall how inspired New Orleans residents were to have the normalcy of being able to watch their team play again. It was uplifting to the people of the city & surrounding areas to watch football. 

I can only imagine a natural disaster cancelling a game with my favorite football team, especially if it could have been played somewhere else. 

Im in agreement with yoi here - inexcusable this Ish wasn't settled days ago. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Since you mention Katrina, I recall how inspired New Orleans residents were to have the normalcy of being able to watch their team play again. It was uplifting to the people of the city & surrounding areas to watch football. 

I can only imagine a natural disaster cancelling a game with my favorite football team, especially if it could have been played somewhere else. 

Im in agreement with yoi here - inexcusable this Ish wasn't settled days ago. 
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There's a decent chance the people in Florida could be without power and without the ability to watch the game, if played.

 
I dont really care how the NFL chooses to deal with this situation- but pretending the Dolphins are going to be down in Miami filling sandbags for their families is beneath contempt. The team and their families is going to be evacuated, if they havent already.

 
I can't imagine being a Jaguar this week. They go to Houston and see what Harvey did to that city first hand while their own homes are getting hit by Irma.

 
Bri said:
I can't imagine being a Jaguar this week. They go to Houston and see what Harvey did to that city first hand while their own homes are getting hit by Irma.
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Jacksonville is pretty far up North so they may be out of the main path - obviously they will see some affects I imagine.

 
I'm the commissioner in my league and I was just requested by one of the players to allow teams to use Miami and Tampa players week 1 and then input their scores manually later once the game is played. My inclination is no. Any thoughts on this? 

 
This sucks for fantasy football - but I think people are getting too emotional based on this. Any decision would have had negatives - it wasn't like moving it was a slam dunk. Miami is already losing a home game in London - so would it be fair to a team with playoff aspirations to only get 6 homes games (not to mention the lost money)?

And while the families may be evacuated ahead of time - maybe these players would still like to be with them instead of on the road wondering...

I just don't see this as an easy decision either way - and its just a bad situation that is out of everyone's control.

I lose my QB and RB for Week 1 now, but we just have to deal with it.

 
timschochet said:
I'm the commissioner in my league and I was just requested by one of the players to allow teams to use Miami and Tampa players week 1 and then input their scores manually later once the game is played. My inclination is no. Any thoughts on this? 
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no

 
timschochet said:
I'm the commissioner in my league and I was just requested by one of the players to allow teams to use Miami and Tampa players week 1 and then input their scores manually later once the game is played. My inclination is no. Any thoughts on this? 
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This sounds like a recipe for a nightmare.

 
I'd like to know how commissioners are responding to league owners about this. I've had a few people approach me and ask about "contingency plans". Who makes contingency plans for rescheduled games? It's not the first time games have been rescheduled or moved to neutral sites due to weather, or other unforeseen disasters (9/11, for example). I have been telling them that I can't reschedule head to head matchups in the league, and that they will now receive points for players in week 11 that they originally weren't slated to receive. I'm curious if other commissioners have been approached about this, and how they responded.

 
Shrek said:
I'd like to know how commissioners are responding to league owners about this. I've had a few people approach me and ask about "contingency plans". Who makes contingency plans for rescheduled games? It's not the first time games have been rescheduled or moved to neutral sites due to weather, or other unforeseen disasters (9/11, for example). I have been telling them that I can't reschedule head to head matchups in the league, and that they will now receive points for players in week 11 that they originally weren't slated to receive. I'm curious if other commissioners have been approached about this, and how they responded.
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"#### happens, its a ####### hurricane."

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Jacksonville is pretty far up North so they may be out of the main path - obviously they will see some affects I imagine.
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The outer bands will hit them, typically Hurricane force winds can extend anywhere from 60-100 miles out from the eye. My guess here is from what we know about this hurricane is that it can extend well pass 100+ miles from the eye wall. Considering the state of Florida peninsula is not that why, will be the entire state effected by the eye wall winds. 

My issue has never been about getting peopel out, tis that the NFL shoudl have done this on Sunday when it was clear it was heading for the states. Dont give me they didnt know it was coming here yet...Yes. They. Did. They didnt just want to cause panic yet just in case. They pin point these things to a pretty good clip now. What they dont wanna tell anyone yet is this will have Cat 4 type winds when it his DC and Cat 3 when it hits NYC. 

 
timschochet said:
I'm the commissioner in my league and I was just requested by one of the players to allow teams to use Miami and Tampa players week 1 and then input their scores manually later once the game is played. My inclination is no. Any thoughts on this? 
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Nope, this week is there bye week now, you get 0 points on bye week. Pretty simple. cut and dry.

 
timschochet said:
I'm the commissioner in my league and I was just requested by one of the players to allow teams to use Miami and Tampa players week 1 and then input their scores manually later once the game is played. My inclination is no. Any thoughts on this? 
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You can't really do this--because what happens if one of those players gets injured before the game is played?  Will those owners then complain about getting stuck with 0's because their player wasn't injured week 1?   This is why the NFL completely chose the wrong solution here in my opinion.   

 
Mavis said:
Not if they evacuated like they were told. 
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Yeah, I do feel for those displaced who now don't even get the small satisfaction and escape of watching their team persevere through this and play.  I would have preferred to have seen the game moved to a neutral site (and they had adequate forewarning to make that happen), but I won't be too critical of the decision to reschedule the game, either.  There are factors far beyond football which must have beeen considerations.

The sad reality is that, despite the advance warning, many in South Florida have not relocated, and they will wait until the final moment to do so, if at all, either because they believe they lack the resources to uproot or they believe they can survive it.  My prayers and thoughts go out to all those who are affected by Hurricanes Harvey and Irma.  

 
Wonder if team officials are on board with this?  Playing 16 straight games is going to royally suck.  Granted, we're talking about one week but one week of rest in the midst of getting the crap kicked out of you for 16 games has to help immensely.

 
socrates said:
Yeah, I do feel for those displaced who now don't even get the small satisfaction and escape of watching their team persevere through this and play.  I would have preferred to have seen the game moved to a neutral site (and they had adequate forewarning to make that happen), but I won't be too critical of the decision to reschedule the game, either.  There are factors far beyond football which must have beeen considerations.

The sad reality is that, despite the advance warning, many in South Florida have not relocated, and they will wait until the final moment to do so, if at all, either because they believe they lack the resources to uproot or they believe they can survive it.  My prayers and thoughts go out to all those who are affected by Hurricanes Harvey and Irma.  
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Some cant, I know I am giving it to the NFL here because they should have moved it and their lack of action caused the Buccs and Miami a disadvantage in health down the stretch...but the stark reality is people couldnt and cant get out of Miami even if they wanted to from such a populated area. Old folks, homeless, disadvantage...they cant leave.

BUT...based off the things I saw after Katrina with a natural disaster like this, everyone wont be saved no matter how hard you try. I hope the authorities will try, but understand it at the same time. 

 
jvdesigns2002 said:
You can't really do this--because what happens if one of those players gets injured before the game is played?  Will those owners then complain about getting stuck with 0's because their player wasn't injured week 1?   This is why the NFL completely chose the wrong solution here in my opinion.   
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I suspect fantasy football wasnt the NFLs top priority.

 
jvdesigns2002 said:
You can't really do this--because what happens if one of those players gets injured before the game is played?  Will those owners then complain about getting stuck with 0's because their player wasn't injured week 1?   This is why the NFL completely chose the wrong solution here in my opinion.   
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Yes, this -- negative fantasy football implications -- is why they chose the wrong solution. :rolleyes:   

 
timschochet said:
Thanks everyone and I agree. 

FWiW doesn't this benefit Doug Martin owners? You get an extra game now. 
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No, he's still suspended the first 3 games.  That will be NFL weeks 2-4.  Before you were hoping to use him week 4 vs the Giants, but now you'll have to wait till week 5 with the Patriots if you want to use him.

 
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First of all, best wishes and thoughts to the people of Florida and the Carib and hopefully that ##### Irma stays out the Gulf. My best hope for everyone of course is she just swings into the open Atlantic.

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As for FF, this is kind of a positive. Week 1 it's just 2 teams with byes. Week 11 there are additional teams with byes, so for some people this spreads out the effect of having players out. The problem of course is that many leagues don't allow adds/drops so I'm guessing many an owner doesn't have a contingency plan. Typically RB-WR3s/4s are developmental or backups. Take out Ajayi, put in Henry or Mixon(?) would be an example. Winston could conceivably be an owner's only QB on his roster. Week 11 you could prepare for that but Week 1 you could be out of luck.

 
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Word of the wise to the NFL.

Better start preparing to put the Tampa game somewhere else next week. If you think they will be playing the game their one week after this, you have another thing coming.

However, I have no doubts beat writers for the team like Stroud will defend the NFL still saying they couldnt see such an event coming.

 
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timschochet said:
I'm the commissioner in my league and I was just requested by one of the players to allow teams to use Miami and Tampa players week 1 and then input their scores manually later once the game is played. My inclination is no. Any thoughts on this? 
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Really? So if Jay Ajayi gets hurt before week 11 then what?

 
Just Win Baby said:
Yes, this -- negative fantasy football implications -- is why they chose the wrong solution. :rolleyes:   
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I probably shouldn't have ended my quote with "this is why the nfl chose the wrong solution" and should have been more thorough with my thought--which was solely in regards to the fantasy world.  In reality-- First of all--it's not good for player safety to play 16 consecutive weeks. Secondly--the NFL had an opportunity to move the game to a neutral site and could have donated the money from ticket sales to support the hurricane relief--which is what I said that I thought was the right move earlier in the thread.  

 
jvdesigns2002 said:
I probably shouldn't have ended my quote with "this is why the nfl chose the wrong solution" and should have been more thorough with my thought--which was solely in regards to the fantasy world.  In reality-- First of all--it's not good for player safety to play 16 consecutive weeks. Secondly--the NFL had an opportunity to move the game to a neutral site and could have donated the money from ticket sales to support the hurricane relief--which is what I said that I thought was the right move earlier in the thread.  
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and what about the owner of the Miami Dolphins? I know no one wants to shed tears for billionaires but they would lose out on two homes games.

 
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