Hawkeye21
Footballguy
That just sounds ridiculous. It's officially a bye week now so it should be treated that way.
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Hurricane Irma Updates - Mia/TB likely to move locations or date. (1 Viewer)
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Mavis
Footballguy
Yes, they have had since Sunday to make a decision. I am kinda confused as to why so many people are defending the NFL here.
I said before and I'll say again, you can care about peopel and think the NFL jacked this up.
As a Katrina survivor I have earned the right to say this... the world didnt stop when the storm was hitting us...it doesnt stop because its hitting Florida.
Might sound callus, but its true. It wont stop just because you want the world to have sympathy. NFL will exist and we cant expect 30 other teams and player to change their life because a storm effect a team or two. It is also true some people just dont care about Florida one little bit and they want their football. Are they wrong? While its not my belief, do those people in Florida care about the wildfires in California? I would guess many dont, they may say so because they know they have to show compassion publicly, but do they really care? No they dont, they have their own issues like everyone. I have even been on Twitter asking about the LA games and if they will be ppd or moved, those same beat writer caring about a Hurricane do not care about those fires.
We all have a need to preface everything we say to protect ourselves from criticism because if we say anything like I just did, it appears you dont care.
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Skoo
Footballguy
I just got an ESPN alert saying that the Week 11 Miami-TB game scoring will count towards week 1?
Please tell me I got that wrong.
Mavis
Footballguy
I got it to, ESPN of all people should understand this.
Matthew Berry Verified account @MatthewBerryTMR 6m6 minutes ago
Can't speak for elsewhere but on ESPN, they will count in Week 11, when the game is played.
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spodog
Footballguy
It potentially could HELP Martin owners. Prior to the announcement, you would not have had Martin in Week 11 due to a bye. Now you will have Martin available, barring injury, for what is usually an important end of season game in most leagues.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Assuming that he stays healthy--it does not hurt you. You actually get to use Martin on week 11 now--which he would have missed due to the original bye week. So instead of coming back week 4 and then missing week 11--he now comes back week 5 and plays the rest of the way through.
Warhogs
Footballguy
I don't know that I am grasping why teams feel having the bye in week 1 hurts their team. I do see part of it. If you drafted planning on having players with a bye later and you don't have a replacement rostered that could certainly hurt. But, I feel like it's a nice small advantage to have players on a team with a bye right away because the pool of players playing is deeper because there are only 2 teams with a bye this week. Sure, you will not be at full strength in week 1 but you get that bye out of the way when all other teams are playing.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
just saw this St. Marteen pic, yikes!
https://twitter.com/BShieldsWFTV/status/905419547779485696/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanwx.com%2Fbb%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcore%26module%3Dsystem%26controller%3Dembed%26url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBShieldsWFTV%2Fstatus%2F905419547779485696
https://twitter.com/BShieldsWFTV/status/905419547779485696/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanwx.com%2Fbb%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcore%26module%3Dsystem%26controller%3Dembed%26url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBShieldsWFTV%2Fstatus%2F905419547779485696
spodog
Footballguy
LOL. So ESPN is a joke in managing fantasy league services in addition to being a joke of a Network now as well.
Mavis
Footballguy
Storm surge itself will destroy those islands.
Florida is going to be destroyed, no doubt about it. This is the hurricane people have been warning about taking shoreline from Florida for years.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Let's hope this veers north sooner than later and doesn't hit Miami directly. FL needs to prepare now but a direct hit may not happen.
NREC34
Footballguy
My first round stud Evans is gone and my opponent is unaffected.
I see no positives for myself.
I guess if I pull out an upset it would be.
Mavis
Footballguy
This guy...if you want to see a guy not care about players safety in a name of him being able to escape a hurricane when he should already be out of town...follow him.
Greg Auman Verified account @gregauman
This is overdramatic. The first nine games are easier for Bucs now because they don't have a game in Week 1 and any injuries that come with.
Greg Auman Verified account @gregauman
This is overdramatic. The first nine games are easier for Bucs now because they don't have a game in Week 1 and any injuries that come with.
exactly. It always sucks to not have your guys week 1 but this should be the most prepared of ANY week all season. In addition to no other byes, everyone you drafted is healthy for the most part, or should be.
Mavis
Footballguy
Not to sound negative, but as big as the eye wall is and the way the storm can extend from that, the eye doesnt have to hit Miami for the major effects to damage it.
You want to be on the left of the eye, not the right. If you are looking at a hurricane on the doppler, the upper right area is the most devastating. The tornadoes that have come from that alone are terrible over the water. Part of being prepared is reasonable expectations.
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
Wouldn't you now have an advantage in week 11 that you wouldn't have had before? That is of course if he stays healthy. That seems to be the biggest risk.
Mavis
Footballguy
Some people may have had a reprieve even getting Zeke back for this one game but losing Ajayi...me being one. The way the ying and yang works in this world is weird.
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
Skoo
Footballguy
So basically any close game with any of those players involved, no one will know what any of those owners' real record is.
Until after week 11. Two weeks before playoffs.
Trying to think of a dumber way to handle this but I got nothing.
Weebs210
Footballguy
Is that really how they are handling? I thought that if you started them week 11 then points will count during your Week 11 matchup...where is the link for this news? I understand about the alert but those things come up so fast and disappear...
Mavis
Footballguy
ESPN is a disaster.
So the guy you play week 11 will get credit for points week 11 and week 1? What the heck is that?
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Skoo
Footballguy
Tried but didn't find it on the league homepage or anything.....hoping someone just made a mistake because that would really be terrible.
"Well, I'm 6-4 and tied for first place. I think. Unless Mike Evans and Ajayi have a big game, then I might be 5-5 and in 3rd place."
MattFancy
Footballguy
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
I hear there is an empty stadium in St. Louis that they could use for this game.
NREC34
Footballguy
It's going to be great to have him week 11 if I pull this upset and am in playoff contention. Yes.
MattFancy
Footballguy
It's not true. If you start Evans/Ajayi/Winston/etc this week, you get 0 points. It won't roll over to Week 11.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Our FF problems are insignificant compared to the nightmares that hundreds of thousands of souls in FL and the Caribbean islands are going to be facing for the next few months. With Snead suspended and now losing Evans and Parker, I'm going to struggle this week at WR. I'm irritated by the start of this FF season but I'm keeping things in perspective. I have options with my little FF team. I can plug in the next WR or roll with a RB at flex. I could even drop Snead and take a shot with some other WR. I'm not going to complain about the NFLs decision when many people are going to have their lives washed away.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Are you a commish---as I play in an ESPN league (and happen to be an Evans owner) and didn't receive an email. If the email is short enough--any chance I could bug you to cut and paste some of the more important parts of it here?
apalmer
Footballguy
MattFancy
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It's also a little ironic that all these people on a fantasy football message board that post a dancing pickle when a starting RB gets hurt because they own his backup are now pretending that they care about player safety while accusing the NFL of not caring. Just saying... 
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
I don't think that anybody here disagrees with you. Our thoughts and prayers go out to everybody that will be effected by this massive storm. However--I think the way that you described it is far too binary. Either we back the NFL's decision--or we come across as being heartless--and that's not the case. The NFL had many options in regards to what they could have done here. Moving the game back to week 11 completely neglects player safety. Both teams made it clear that they would prefer to play the game this week. The NFL could have moved the game to a neutral site and used the money raised to donate towards hurricane relief. This decision would take the players and their families out of harms way, would actually take into account player safety, would raise money and support for hurricane relief--and lastly and least importantly it appeases the NFL fans (including the betting and fantasy football playing public). We can think that the NFL didn't make the right choice without it being implied that we care more about our fantasy teams than we do storm victims. Nobody here is heartless--and nobody here puts their fantasy teams over the safety of the people that will be effected by this storm.
Skoo
Footballguy
It just came up as a notification while I was using the ESPN app...hopefully I read it wrong and apologies for freaking everyone out....but I'm pretty sure that's what it said.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
And in week 11 you will have Evans when you otherwise wouldn't.
Sure it's a little better to have the bye later as you have more roster clarity then for your replacement, but for the most part a bye is a bye.
I got the same notification, and am confused too. Said week 11 points will count toward week 1.
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jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
In regards to the Doug Martin thing. I don't follow NFL defense strengths too much--but here is one thing that changes. Martin was scheduled to miss the first 3 games--versus--the dolphins, bears and vikings. Because of the bye getting moved to week 1--Martin will now miss games against the bears, vikings, and giants. Essentially what happens is that he now gets to play against the dolphins later in the year--but misses the giants game earlier in the year. If somebody that knows NFL defenses really well might want to comment on if that's a plus/negative change for Martin--that would be appreciated.
OnTheReg
Footballguy
I guess overall you can say it's a negative. He was expected to miss the first three weeks of the season, but now it's technically four. So if you were banking on getting him back week four you have to wait another week to insert him into your lineup. As for Giants vs. Dolphins defenses, I ballpark them roughly similar but who knows.
Mavis
Footballguy
The irony is you can tell the Dolphins and Buccs owners while at the same time seeing who was playing against them this week.
Just like everything else, how it effects an individual determines their positions. Human nature in all of us.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
I'm not sure I call that a negative. He was going to miss week 11 even with the original suspension--so it's not like this move changes the number of games he plays. It changes his opponents slightly--and when he plays the games. In any case--I do appreciate your thoughts on those defenses being roughly the same.
My first thought is that it's a plus to get a bye week out of the way when no other team is on bye ,easier to manage then a week when 4 other teams are on bye. After I just rolled through my rosters making adjustments I see what you are saying on roster clarity for the replacements. Have a lot of guys on rosters I'm waiting for them to show me something or get healthier, kind of blew my thought process that it's easier later than earlier to be without some players. This is especially so in dynasty leagues where I "waste" a lot of roster space on prospects.
OnTheReg
Footballguy
Fair points. Honestly, there probably isn't a right or wrong answer, it's pretty subjective how you look at it. If you were slightly thin at RB (like me in a league where I have Martin) I was just looking forward to getting him back sooner than later. Week 11 is far off right now. But I totally know where you're coming from as well.
NREC34
Footballguy
I may be 3-7 when week 11 rolls around too.
Everyone is supposed to be on equal footing the first four weeks and everyone is just playing who they drafted early on especially week 1.
