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[CrossEyed2]

A COVID nurse speaks out.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

A COVID nurse speaks out.

I'm an RN, and I work in a higher level of acuity than that RN on the video. Some of the stuff that he says is very true, but debatable, and can be explained by no one knowing how to treat COVID pneumonia when it first hit. Some of the clinical stuff that he talks about, like mobilizing the patients? That might have some merit, but in practice if someone drops their spO2 down into the 70s while brushing their teeth- I ain't getting them up and walking them to the toilet.

The rest of the stuff, like the COVID ward emptying out because of the change in CDC testing guidelines for the PCR test? Pure speculative, tinfoil hat stuff. Convalescent plasma killing people in 2 days? Horsepucky. Remdesevir causing flash pulmonary edema? Possibly, in some rare cases, but I have yet to see it firsthand and the statistics don't bear that out. CEOs of Pfizer going to work for the CDC and FDA? Again, pure speculative hearsay. Lobbyists being the sole reason Pfizer got approved? Again, he even admits it is "secondhand", which means it is probably 3rd or 4th hand, or from Aunt Carole's Facebook page. I stopped about midway through because I had seen enough.

The guy is obviously smart, and clearly an experienced Respiratory RN. I bet he was good at his job. But, that doesn't make him a credible expert on most of the stuff he talks about. He honestly doesn't even know what he doesn't know. I know I am talking to a brick wall. I watched the video and it might get you fired up about what you already believe, but just because he has a clinical background doesn't make what he is saying valid.

 

[CrossEyed2]

I'm an RN, and I work in a higher level of acuity than that RN on the video. Some of the stuff that he says is very true, but debatable, and can be explained by no one knowing how to treat COVID pneumonia when it first hit. Some of the clinical stuff that he talks about, like mobilizing the patients? That might have some merit, but in practice if someone drops their spO2 down into the 70s while brushing their teeth- I ain't getting them up and walking them to the toilet.

The rest of the stuff, like the COVID ward emptying out because of the change in CDC testing guidelines for the PCR test? Pure speculative, tinfoil hat stuff. Convalescent plasma killing people in 2 days? Horsepucky. Remdesevir causing flash pulmonary edema? Possibly, in some rare cases, but I have yet to see it firsthand and the statistics don't bear that out. CEOs of Pfizer going to work for the CDC and FDA? Again, pure speculative hearsay. Lobbyists being the sole reason Pfizer got approved? Again, he even admits it is "secondhand", which means it is probably 3rd or 4th hand, or from Aunt Carole's Facebook page. I stopped about midway through because I had seen enough.

The guy is obviously smart, and clearly an experienced Respiratory RN. I bet he was good at his job. But, that doesn't make him a credible expert on most of the stuff he talks about. He honestly doesn't even know what he doesn't know. I know I am talking to a brick wall. I watched the video and it might get you fired up about what you already believe, but just because he has a clinical background doesn't make what he is saying valid.

We experienced the exact same thing he talked about with my father-in-law last year. He was suicidal due to the poor treatment the hospital provided. And before you call into question our understanding, my wife was a an ICU nurse for a decade. The only reason he survived is because he had her advocating for him. Otherwise he’d have been another “COVID death”, despite the fact that he’s a COPD patient who has been on death’s door at least a half dozen times prior to this last illness. 

 

[ProstheticRGK]

We experienced the exact same thing he talked about with my father-in-law last year. He was suicidal due to the poor treatment the hospital provided. And before you call into question our understanding, my wife was a an ICU nurse for a decade. The only reason he survived is because he had her advocating for him. Otherwise he’d have been another “COVID death”, despite the fact that he’s a COPD patient who has been on death’s door at least a half dozen times prior to this last illness. 

I won't call into question your understanding (or your wife's) until you make an actual claim about his care. Why was the care so poor? What, exactly, did he experience that was exactly like the RN in the video described? What, specifically, did your sife advocate for that was the difference between him recovering and dying?

And, more broadly, how does any of that tie into your "COVID is a hoax" stance from earlier? It seems pretty incongruous.

 

[CrossEyed2]

I won't call into question your understanding (or your wife's) until you make an actual claim about his care. Why was the care so poor? What, exactly, did he experience that was exactly like the RN in the video described? What, specifically, did your sife advocate for that was the difference between him recovering and dying?

And, more broadly, how does any of that tie into your "COVID is a hoax" stance from earlier? It seems pretty incongruous.

He was in the hospital for pneumonia first for roughly a week, sent home for roughly 36 hours, then returned to the hospital for about 3 additional weeks. When he was checked again, they discovered a different, hospital acquired pneumonia. The entire time he was there he wasn’t shaved once, he had terrible bed sores because he wasn’t moved, and never had a hot meal. By the end he had become suicidal and refused to take any of his meds. He was allowed no visitors until a few days before he was released, when my sister-in-law was allowed to visit for 1 hour. It was only after my wife demanded a daily conference call with family members that the palliative care dr got involved and essentially told the family that his only chance at recovery would be at home. 
 

Hospital policies were awful and much of the staff was scared to death to care for COVID patients. 
 

How it ties in is that this is primarily a testing and treatment crisis. The test is a sham and the treatments have been wrong from the beginning. 

 

[ProstheticRGK]

He was in the hospital for pneumonia first for roughly a week, sent home for roughly 36 hours, then returned to the hospital for about 3 additional weeks. When he was checked again, they discovered a different, hospital acquired pneumonia. The entire time he was there he wasn’t shaved once, he had terrible bed sores because he wasn’t moved, and never had a hot meal. By the end he had become suicidal and refused to take any of his meds. He was allowed no visitors until a few days before he was released, when my sister-in-law was allowed to visit for 1 hour. It was only after my wife demanded a daily conference call with family members that the palliative care dr got involved and essentially told the family that his only chance at recovery would be at home. 
 

Hospital policies were awful and much of the staff was scared to death to care for COVID patients. 
 

How it ties in is that this is primarily a testing and treatment crisis. The test is a sham and the treatments have been wrong from the beginning. 

I am sorry he went through that. And that you all, as family had to go through that, as well. I have no idea why that was the case, but that isn't the standard of care, and there would be hell to pay at my facility if someone developed bedsores and wasn't fed. Just a note on the shaving: we aren't allowed to shave patients anymore in our facility. I don't know how widespread or standard that is, but it is a liability thing. Silly as it is. No visitors is standard for COVID- it is primarily and airborne infectious disease.

As far as the test being a sham and the treatments being wrong- I honestly don't think you know what you are talking about. At least I haven't seen anything credible that you've posted, yet.

 

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@CrossEyed2 since you seem to have missed it in the other thread(s)...

Rated on a scale of 1 (absolutely uncertain)  to 10 (absolutely certain)

1) Three Years ago How Certain would you say you were that Science was wrong and Jesus was real?  

2) Today, How Certain would you say you are that Science was wrong and Jesus is real? 

Thanks 

Hey @CrossEyed2, it seems you missed this post again. 

I'm sure it was just because it was the last post on the previous page, because you're not the type of guy to run away from a question. 

Bumping it onto the current page for ya, GB.  

I'll have some follow up questions for ya depending on how you answer... so don't stray too far!  

 

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Crosseyes - is cancer real or is that a big pharma conspiracy also 

Bumping this one too... @CrossEyed2 seems to be missing lots of important questions.

 

[CrossEyed2]

I am sorry he went through that. And that you all, as family had to go through that, as well. I have no idea why that was the case, but that isn't the standard of care, and there would be hell to pay at my facility if someone developed bedsores and wasn't fed. Just a note on the shaving: we aren't allowed to shave patients anymore in our facility. I don't know how widespread or standard that is, but it is a liability thing. Silly as it is. No visitors is standard for COVID- it is primarily and airborne infectious disease.

As far as the test being a sham and the treatments being wrong- I honestly don't think you know what you are talking about. At least I haven't seen anything credible that you've posted, yet.

Thanks.
 

I didn’t say he was never fed, I said he never had a hot meal. Even the meals that were supposed to be hot were always cold because of the protocols that were in place at the time. 

As for the tests, I’m referring to the rtPCR and I’ll mention just a couple of issues. First, even it’s inventor said that it isn’t capable of telling you if you are sick. It wasn’t designed to diagnose infectious disease, it was a research tool designed to amplify very minute things so they could be studied in a research setting. And Fauci himself (as was pointed out by the nurse in the video) is on record stating that anything above the low 30s in terms of cycles is meaningless. Yet labs were running them at 40 cycles or more. 
 

Kary Mullis, inventor of PCR. Listen closely to everything he says.  

 

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 Otherwise he’d have been another “COVID death”, despite the fact that he’s a COPD patient who has been on death’s door at least a half dozen times prior to this last illness. 

Hey @CrossEyed2, In your mind If a hemophiliac is mugged and stabbed... then bleeds out on the sidewalk, was he murdered? 

Or is that one of those "Died WITH knife wound" thingies? 

 

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Kary Mullis, inventor of PCR. Listen closely to everything he says.  

Wrong.

If only I had a copy of the "Covidiot TinFoil Hat Playbook" and could predict which comments and claims you'd parrot next. 

Oh wait... It's readily available in dozens of looney facebook groups.

It's like a little bot-army parroting misinformation they've been unwittingly fed by Chinese/Russian/Etc psyops agents... but they're not self-aware enough to see or feel the hands up their skirts moving their mouths. 

 

[CrossEyed2]

Wrong.

This is exactly why I have no interest in discussing this with you. I post a video with the actual words from the man himself and you reply with a “fact-checking” article about something completely different.  

 

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This is exactly why I have no interest in discussing this with you. I post a video with the actual words from the man himself and you reply with a “fact-checking” article about something completely different.  

HEY THERE YOU ARE... Thanks for biting and confirming you can see my posts.

While I've got here... you missed some questions above.  

 

[stbugs]

This is exactly why I have no interest in discussing this with you. I post a video with the actual words from the man himself and you reply with a “fact-checking” article about something completely different.  

Just go away man. You are literally doing nothing but posting the laundry list of Covid’s fake BS and then running back to your I don’t want to discuss it when someone tells you you’re wrong yet again. So tiring. You aren’t smarter than most people. You just get told what to say by a different leader you follow every couple years until you realize you’ve been bamboozled again. Do you have a real life or is spreading misinformation your job now? This is just pathetic. 

 

[CrossEyed2]

Just go away man. You are literally doing nothing but posting the laundry list of Covid’s fake BS and then running back to your I don’t want to discuss it when someone tells you you’re wrong yet again. So tiring. You aren’t smarter than most people. You just get told what to say by a different leader you follow every couple years until you realize you’ve been bamboozled again. Do you have a real life or is spreading misinformation your job now? This is just pathetic. 

Pretty sure this is my post. If you aren’t interested, why are you here? Lack of self-control? 

 

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Hey @CrossEyed2 if a those guys who jumped out of the world trade center to avoid being burned alive, but had a heart attack on the way down, they shouldn't be counted as victims the terror attacks on 9/11... amirite? 

I'm gettin the hang of #CrossEyedMedicine

 

[CrossEyed2]

Hey @CrossEyed2 if a those guys who jumped out of the world trade center to avoid being burned alive, but had a heart attack on the way down, they shouldn't be counted as victims the terror attacks on 9/11... amirite? 

I'm gettin the hang of #CrossEyedMedicine

Exactly. They died of gravity. 

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Thanks.
 

I didn’t say he was never fed, I said he never had a hot meal. Even the meals that were supposed to be hot were always cold because of the protocols that were in place at the time. 

As for the tests, I’m referring to the rtPCR and I’ll mention just a couple of issues. First, even it’s inventor said that it isn’t capable of telling you if you are sick. It wasn’t designed to diagnose infectious disease, it was a research tool designed to amplify very minute things so they could be studied in a research setting. And Fauci himself (as was pointed out by the nurse in the video) is on record stating that anything above the low 30s in terms of cycles is meaningless. Yet labs were running them at 40 cycles or more. 
 

Kary Mullis, inventor of PCR. Listen closely to everything he says.  

I watched, and listened. And, you are factually correct: he said a positive result doesn't tell you if you are sick and doesn't diagnose for COVID-19. It does indicate the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in your mucosa. What does form the differential diagnosis for COVID-19 (and @Terminalxylem, please help me out here) is a board certified physician assessing someone after they come into the hospital with a constellation of symptoms, a positive test result for SARS_CoV-2 and usually, radiologic findings of diffuse ground-glass opacities in the lungs.

The reason I am being very precise with the wording is because those definitions matter. When Kary Mullis says PCR testing isn't designed to diagnose infectious disease, it is technically correct. But, that doesn't mean what it seems you are trying to extrapolate from it. And the context of what he is talking about seems to matter a great deal.

Clearly, that guy is brilliant, and has a high-level understanding of chemistry, molecular modelling and things that are only vague concepts to me. But taking what he says out of its meaningful context and painting with a broad brush that "the test is a sham" is just ignorant. You can't infer that conclusion from what he says in that video.

 

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But taking what he says out of its meaningful context ... is just ignorant. You can't infer that conclusion from what he says in that video.

On the Contrary...

ProstheticRGK, please allow me to introduce you to @CrossEyed2.... beating his head against the "can't" till it (sorta) reads "can" since 2003. 

 

[CrossEyed2]

I watched, and listened. And, you are factually correct: he said a positive result doesn't tell you if you are sick and doesn't diagnose for COVID-19. It does indicate the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in your mucosa. What does form the differential diagnosis for COVID-19 (and @Terminalxylem, please help me out here) is a board certified physician assessing someone after they come into the hospital with a constellation of symptoms, a positive test result for SARS_CoV-2 and usually, radiologic findings of diffuse ground-glass opacities in the lungs.

The reason I am being very precise with the wording is because those definitions matter. When Kary Mullis says PCR testing isn't designed to diagnose infectious disease, it is technically correct. But, that doesn't mean what it seems you are trying to extrapolate from it. And the context of what he is talking about seems to matter a great deal.

Clearly, that guy is brilliant, and has a high-level understanding of chemistry, molecular modelling and things that are only vague concepts to me. But taking what he says out of its meaningful context and painting with a broad brush that "the test is a sham" is just ignorant. You can't infer that conclusion from what he says in that video.

Perhaps not, but if you look into what else he said about many of his fellow scientists at the highest levels of government, such as Fauci and Gallo, you can find out exactly what he thought about their “science”. In fact, Mullis wrote the foreword to Peter Duesberg’s book that slammed the system’s claims on HIV and AIDS. 

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Perhaps not, but if you look into what else he said about many of his fellow scientists at the highest levels of government, such as Fauci and Gallo, you can find out exactly what he thought about their “science”. In fact, Mullis wrote the foreword to Peter Duesberg’s book that slammed the system’s claims on HIV and AIDS. 

Cool. And if I had unlimited lifetimes to read stuff, I'd be interested in reading more about him. He seems like a thoughtful guy. I particularly appreciated his off-the-cuff remark about the Buddhist philosophy of everything being contained within everything else. But, admittedly, I am a lazy, lazy man and have stopped even ordering books off amazon because I already have too many, siting unread.

 

[gianmarco]

Perhaps not, but if you look into what else he said about many of his fellow scientists at the highest levels of government, such as Fauci and Gallo, you can find out exactly what he thought about their “science”. In fact, Mullis wrote the foreword to Peter Duesberg’s book that slammed the system’s claims on HIV and AIDS. 

What makes him more credible than any other number of scientists, inventors, researchers, physicians, etc.?

 

[CrossEyed2]

Cool. And if I had unlimited lifetimes to read stuff, I'd be interested in reading more about him. He seems like a thoughtful guy. I particularly appreciated his off-the-cuff remark about the Buddhist philosophy of everything being contained within everything else. But, admittedly, I am a lazy, lazy man and have stopped even ordering books off amazon because I already have too many, siting unread.

Yeah, I get that. I’m actually more of an audiobook consumer. Duesberg’s book is available on Audible. For anyone with an open mind, particularly with a medical background, I think you’d find it pretty interesting. My wife was shocked to learn some of the things he talked about. The book is titled, Inventing the AIDS Virus.  

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Yeah, I get that. I’m actually more of an audiobook consumer. Duesberg’s book is available on Audible. For anyone with an open mind, particularly with a medical background, I think you’d find it pretty interesting. My wife was shocked to learn some of the things he talked about. The book is titled, Inventing the AIDS Virus.  

i just told you how lazy I am.

J/k, appreciate the recommendation.

 

[CrossEyed2]

What makes him more credible than any other number of scientists, inventors, researchers, physicians, etc.?

Because he had integrity and was interested in the truth.

 

[Terminalxylem]

I watched, and listened. And, you are factually correct: he said a positive result doesn't tell you if you are sick and doesn't diagnose for COVID-19. It does indicate the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in your mucosa. What does form the differential diagnosis for COVID-19 (and @Terminalxylem, please help me out here) is a board certified physician assessing someone after they come into the hospital with a constellation of symptoms, a positive test result for SARS_CoV-2 and usually, radiologic findings of diffuse ground-glass opacities in the lungs.

The reason I am being very precise with the wording is because those definitions matter. When Kary Mullis says PCR testing isn't designed to diagnose infectious disease, it is technically correct. But, that doesn't mean what it seems you are trying to extrapolate from it. And the context of what he is talking about seems to matter a great deal.

Clearly, that guy is brilliant, and has a high-level understanding of chemistry, molecular modelling and things that are only vague concepts to me. But taking what he says out of its meaningful context and painting with a broad brush that "the test is a sham" is just ignorant. You can't infer that conclusion from what he says in that video.

This explanation will get you nowhere, but it’s a good summary. Pretty much every diagnosis is based on sign/symptoms of disease with supporting diagnostic testing, like bloodwork and radiographic studies. Having a trained clinician interpret the findings certainly helps, too.

 

[gianmarco]

Because he had integrity and was interested in the truth.

So you are accusing everyone else I listed above of not having integrity or being interested in the truth? Tens of thousands of people who have dedicated their lives to science and helping others?

 

[Terminalxylem]

Cool. And if I had unlimited lifetimes to read stuff, I'd be interested in reading more about him. He seems like a thoughtful guy. I particularly appreciated his off-the-cuff remark about the Buddhist philosophy of everything being contained within everything else. But, admittedly, I am a lazy, lazy man and have stopped even ordering books off amazon because I already have too many, siting unread.

I’ve read some of the AIDS denial stuff - it’s pretty terrible and cost people their lives.

 

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I think it's Adorable that a guy who was so certain he was smarter than scientists about religion (then invested decades of his life, only to find out he was living a lie).. is NOW absolutely certain he's smarter than scientists again.

THIS TIME he's got it right, though. For certain. 

Seriously... it's precious.   

 

[CrossEyed2]

So you are accusing everyone else I listed above of not having integrity or being interested in the truth? Tens of thousands of people who have dedicated their lives to science and helping others?

No, most people simply believe what they are taught and how they are taught and don’t question it.  Questioning certain things is costly. Most folks would rather not run the risk of having to pay the price. 

 

[CrossEyed2]

I’ve read some of the AIDS denial stuff - it’s pretty terrible and cost people their lives.

It’s not AIDS denial, it’s questioning the official explanation of the cause of people getting sick and the validity of the treatments that were used on them. 
 

But hey, that’s not as inflammatory. 

 

[gianmarco]

No, most people simply believe what they are taught and how they are taught and don’t question it.  Questioning certain things is costly. Most folks would rather not run the risk of having to pay the price. 

You seem to assume and know a lot about a lot of people. That's pretty arrogant to think you know more than someone who has trained in the sciences that they can't think for themselves or see something that is clearly obvious to you and a select few, mostly because you choose to believe the words of a few outsiders.

You are essentially accusing all the people I listed above of lacking insight into what they know and don't know while thinking you know what you know and don't know. 

 

[CrossEyed2]

You seem to assume and know a lot about a lot of people. That's pretty arrogant to think you know more than someone who has trained in the sciences that they can't think for themselves or see something that is clearly obvious to you and a select few, mostly because you choose to believe the words of a few outsiders.

You are essentially accusing all the people I listed above of lacking insight into what they know and don't know while thinking you know what you know and don't know. 

It’s hard to get a man to understand something when his paycheck depends on him not understanding it. 
 

And I lived that reality for about a decade. 

 

[SWC]

please move this to the political forum where it belongs take that to the bank brohans

 

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And I lived that reality for about a decade. 

So what's the plan in 2030 when you realize you've burned yet another decade? 

Are the wife and kids following you on THIS escapade after the last one? 

 

[CrossEyed2]

So what's the plan in 2030 when you realize you've burned yet another decade? 

Are the wife and kids following you on THIS escapade after the last one? 

Why do you care so much about me and my life. If you think I’m full of #### just go away and do your own thing. Or is it your job to protect everyone else from ideas you think are wrong? Nobody else around here is capable of deciding for themselves? 

 

[stbugs]

It’s not AIDS denial, it’s questioning the official explanation of the cause of people getting sick and the validity of the treatments that were used on them. 
 

But hey, that’s not as inflammatory. 

So AIDS clearly is running rampant now because all those drugs and treatments don’t work? Amazing how minds work and amazing that you can somehow say that the AIDS treatments don’t work. Dude, turn of the phone or computer and step away from the Facebook groups, YouTube and Twitter. Now that you’ve done that, could you answer this riddle?

Is Magic Johnson still alive? 

 

[stbugs]

Why do you care so much about me and my life. If you think I’m full of #### just go away and do your own thing. Or is it your job to protect everyone else from ideas you think are wrong? Nobody else around here is capable of deciding for themselves? 

We really don’t care about your life. We are mocking you because we are trying hard to not have another idiot spreading misinformation. We have spouses and kids too, but we would like the world to get back to normal and people like you aren’t discovering the truth, you’re just extending the quagmire we are in.

PSA: Hey people on the fence to take a vaccine, please do so and don’t end up like the OP.

 

[gianmarco]

It’s hard to get a man to understand something when his paycheck depends on him not understanding it. 
 

And I lived that reality for about a decade. 

But that's also not what you said.

You said you believed him because he has integrity. You didn't respond to my counter that you then are saying that everyone else lacks integrity. 

 

[CrossEyed2]

Duesberg's book answers all of your questions, but instead of making an attempt to understand what he and others have said about HIV/AIDS, you'd rather mock it in ignorance. And unless you've taken the time to digest it all, you are ignorant of his ideas.

 

[joffer]

Duesberg's book answers all of your questions, but instead of making an attempt to understand what he and others have said about HIV/AIDS, you'd rather mock it in ignorance. And unless you've taken the time to digest it all, you are ignorant of his ideas.

Could’ve swore I’ve heard that about another book

 

[Terminalxylem]

It’s not AIDS denial, it’s questioning the official explanation of the cause of people getting sick and the validity of the treatments that were used on them. 
 

But hey, that’s not as inflammatory. 

The treatments for HIV have transformed it from a death sentence to chronic disease with lifespan comparable to illnesses like diabetes. Development of antiretroviral therapy is arguably the greatest medical advance of our lifetime, though these vaccines are on the list too.

 

[Terminalxylem]

It’s not AIDS denial, it’s questioning the official explanation of the cause of people getting sick and the validity of the treatments that were used on them. 
 

But hey, that’s not as inflammatory. 

I’ll tell you what’s inflammatory: telling people who have devoted their careers to scientific endeavors they lack integrity and intellectual curiosity.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Duesberg's book answers all of your questions, but instead of making an attempt to understand what he and others have said about HIV/AIDS, you'd rather mock it in ignorance. And unless you've taken the time to digest it all, you are ignorant of his ideas.

One might make a similar argument regarding your attempt (or lack thereof) to understand the “mainstream” thoughts on HIV. 

But with limited hours in the day, how does one decide which is more credible?

 

[CrossEyed2]

I guess they deleted my post where I pointed out that @CrossEyed2 will never answer these questions because it will upset the delicately balanced dissonance in his head. 

Weird.

Why not just answer the questions @CrossEyed2?  Or just report me again, whatever.   

I’ve never reported anyone. I’m not a thin-skinned Karen, unlike a few others around here. 
 

As for answering questions, I engage with those who engage respectfully with me. I’ve got no use and no time for the mockers. 

 

[CrossEyed2]

One might make a similar argument regarding your attempt (or lack thereof) to understand the “mainstream” thoughts on HIV. 

But with limited hours in the day, how does one decide which is more credible?

I’ve read the mainstream thoughts regarding HIV as the cause of AIDS. Makes no sense to me. The “science” simply doesn’t add up. 

 

[AAABatteries]

I’ve read the mainstream thoughts regarding HIV as the cause of AIDS. Makes no sense to me. The “science” simply doesn’t add up. 

Do you have a particular interest in HIV/AIDS or was that just a jumping off point to not believing in germ theory?

Apologies if you answered this and I didn't see it.  I think you acknowledged before that people are getting sick and dying but you don't believe it is from Covid.  Did you ever say what you thought it was? 

 

[stbugs]

Do you have a particular interest in HIV/AIDS or was that just a jumping off point to not believing in germ theory?

Apologies if you answered this and I didn't see it.  I think you acknowledged before that people are getting sick and dying but you don't believe it is from Covid.  Did you ever say what you thought it was? 

Toxins. That’s the basis in their theory. A build up of toxins from not living well. Viruses and Bacteria is created by the body itself and don’t cause anything and medicines do nothing, gotta heal yourself. 

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I’ve never reported anyone. I’m not a thin-skinned Karen, unlike a few others around here. 
 

As for answering questions, I engage with those who engage respectfully with me. I’ve got no use and no time for the mockers. 

Translation: You won't answer those simple questions because you can't answer those simple questions without completely destroying the idea that you are somehow "new and improved."

It's all good - it's obvious to everyone else why you keep avoiding them, I was just honestly curious if it was obvious to you, too. 

 

[AAABatteries]

Toxins. That’s the basis in their theory. A build up of toxins from not living well. Viruses and Bacteria is created by the body itself and don’t cause anything and medicines do nothing, gotta heal yourself. 

I'll see what Crosseyed says but I guess my follow-up to "toxins" is why are we seeing very specific symptoms are a much higher rate - loss of smell/taste.