Well sure. And there is a decent chance his kids will still do all those things. However, there is almost no chance that the other kids will get a chance to do what his kids did.Things like having childhood friends, playing a sport, or being a girl scout also creates a lifetime of memories.Thanks. It's a trade off. There are things I look forward too once we stop but none of the things we've sacrificed are even close to worth the amazing two years we've had. We've given the kids, and ourselves, a lifetime of memories and they're not even old enough to drive yet.Can't decide if I would love this or hate it. I love my family but I need some alone/decompressing time once in a while. Also I image it's difficult to get super crazy with the wife with the kids so close. I get that you're making sacrifices and such, just not sure it'd be for me.
Congrats on you living your life how you want to though.
This is what I thinking to, kids playing softball on a team, playing in the playoffs, making a bird house with other kids at boy scouts, being part of team, baseball, football, there are many life lessons to be learned by doing these things in life. My kids are all grown up now, but they talk more about pee wee football days, fighting for a spot on the high school volley ball team, I never forget the excitement in my sons eyes when he came home with a varsity football jersey, my son and daughter were both recruited to play college spots, the excitement of years of hard work showing up in scholarship offers(life lesson hard work gets you rewards). On the other hand the trips we took to San Diego, mount Rushmore, Minnesota Twins games, etc, are never spoken about. The speak about times spent with my mother who has passed, can't make up time with grandma when your on the road. One vacation a year is enough for most kids, but learning leadership skills, teamwork, and that hard work and commitment has it rewards is more important in my opinion as a life lesson.Things like having childhood friends, playing a sport, or being a girl scout also creates a lifetime of memories.Thanks. It's a trade off. There are things I look forward too once we stop but none of the things we've sacrificed are even close to worth the amazing two years we've had. We've given the kids, and ourselves, a lifetime of memories and they're not even old enough to drive yet.Can't decide if I would love this or hate it. I love my family but I need some alone/decompressing time once in a while. Also I image it's difficult to get super crazy with the wife with the kids so close. I get that you're making sacrifices and such, just not sure it'd be for me.
Congrats on you living your life how you want to though.
http://horrorwarehouse.com/horrorblog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/thehillshaveeyes1977.pngHave you ever seen The Hills Have Eyes?
Why didn't you say this in the first place? Case closed, guys. Shut the thread down.its pretty much the only thing they can fire back withWhy is the default assumption of most posters in this thread that if a kid isn't home schooled and living in an RV then he probably just plays Xbox all day?I met a family of homeschooled kids from virginia once. Ate dinner at their house (neighbors of my cousin). Buncha ####in weirdos
Seriously. A lot of squares in here thinking that if you dont grow up in suburbia and play team sports than you ain't doing it right.Wife and I have talked about doing something similar to this. We would stay in places a bit longer though. Thought about a month or two at a time in about 10 areas over a year and a half.But he's stolen their childhoods.It was only 2 years.![]()
Clearly you haven't spent a lot of time around school age kids.My guess is that the vast majority of parents on this board wouldn't do it while they have school age kids (already there's repeated talk about people wanting to do this after the kids are out of the house, or during a summer, etc.). Have to wonder why that is.
LOL. Everyone was "relax" until you started posting.A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer. I would think it would be a pretty sucky way for a kid to grow up through the entirety of their teens, sorry. Sucky and weird. They wouldn't know how to socialize with kids their own age and develop friendships, and I imagine it would be damn lonely. It can be traumatic enough on a teenager to make a single move -- to move constantly through those years? Just can't be good. Yeah, I get it, it's "square" thinking, all that conventional stuff. But I suspect there's truth to it.
I also think the fact that you all believe that kids can only play Xbox, and that's why you don't see them outside. Around here, kids do lots of things -- they're in school all day, play one or more sports, take music lessons, and when you pack in time for homework and family time, well, I suppose there's not a whole lot of time left in the day. Just because a kid has a "traditional" upbringing, it doesn't mean they're being screwed up. This isn't a multiple choice test with your two options being Xbox or RV Gypsy Life.
In any event, I do think it sounds pretty damn cool given that it's just for a couple years, and presumably the kids had normal schooling before and will have that after, and will have friends their own ages, so they'll have an education and social skills. That would be my concern anyway. My guess is that the vast majority of parents on this board wouldn't do it while they have school age kids (already there's repeated talk about people wanting to do this after the kids are out of the house, or during a summer, etc.). Have to wonder why that is.
Nope, and it sounds like fun.LOL. Everyone was "relax" until you started posting.A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer. I would think it would be a pretty sucky way for a kid to grow up through the entirety of their teens, sorry. Sucky and weird. They wouldn't know how to socialize with kids their own age and develop friendships, and I imagine it would be damn lonely. It can be traumatic enough on a teenager to make a single move -- to move constantly through those years? Just can't be good. Yeah, I get it, it's "square" thinking, all that conventional stuff. But I suspect there's truth to it.
I also think the fact that you all believe that kids can only play Xbox, and that's why you don't see them outside. Around here, kids do lots of things -- they're in school all day, play one or more sports, take music lessons, and when you pack in time for homework and family time, well, I suppose there's not a whole lot of time left in the day. Just because a kid has a "traditional" upbringing, it doesn't mean they're being screwed up. This isn't a multiple choice test with your two options being Xbox or RV Gypsy Life.
In any event, I do think it sounds pretty damn cool given that it's just for a couple years, and presumably the kids had normal schooling before and will have that after, and will have friends their own ages, so they'll have an education and social skills. That would be my concern anyway. My guess is that the vast majority of parents on this board wouldn't do it while they have school age kids (already there's repeated talk about people wanting to do this after the kids are out of the house, or during a summer, etc.). Have to wonder why that is.
Normal schooling? WTF is that? These kids are getting a great education in many ways.
Have you ever taken an RV Trip?
I think there was some sarcasm in that last statement. I love my kids to death, but being around them 24/7, I'd be looking to buy a 2nd rv. Put me in the camp of someone that would want to do this when the kids are out of the house, but only for a month or two at a time. I wouldn't want to be in such close proximity to a bunch of strangers for much longer than that. I think the ideal would be to live somewhere out in the midwest so its a short drive to most of the good stuff this country has to offer. Living on the east coast, you have to drive such a long distance through a lot of unappealing states to get to everything out west..Clearly you haven't spent a lot of time around school age kids.My guess is that the vast majority of parents on this board wouldn't do it while they have school age kids (already there's repeated talk about people wanting to do this after the kids are out of the house, or during a summer, etc.). Have to wonder why that is.
Mrs. Neslon would not be on Mr. Nelson's bus.Willie, hope your wife is OK...
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/11/23/willie-nelsons-band-tour-bus-crashes/
An important concern, but I trust any teenage boy to figure that one out.Where do the kids masturbate?
It's anything but "normal" these days. That's the last thing I'd call schooling.Nope, and it sounds like fun.LOL. Everyone was "relax" until you started posting.A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer. I would think it would be a pretty sucky way for a kid to grow up through the entirety of their teens, sorry. Sucky and weird. They wouldn't know how to socialize with kids their own age and develop friendships, and I imagine it would be damn lonely. It can be traumatic enough on a teenager to make a single move -- to move constantly through those years? Just can't be good. Yeah, I get it, it's "square" thinking, all that conventional stuff. But I suspect there's truth to it.
I also think the fact that you all believe that kids can only play Xbox, and that's why you don't see them outside. Around here, kids do lots of things -- they're in school all day, play one or more sports, take music lessons, and when you pack in time for homework and family time, well, I suppose there's not a whole lot of time left in the day. Just because a kid has a "traditional" upbringing, it doesn't mean they're being screwed up. This isn't a multiple choice test with your two options being Xbox or RV Gypsy Life.
In any event, I do think it sounds pretty damn cool given that it's just for a couple years, and presumably the kids had normal schooling before and will have that after, and will have friends their own ages, so they'll have an education and social skills. That would be my concern anyway. My guess is that the vast majority of parents on this board wouldn't do it while they have school age kids (already there's repeated talk about people wanting to do this after the kids are out of the house, or during a summer, etc.). Have to wonder why that is.
Normal schooling? WTF is that? These kids are getting a great education in many ways.
Have you ever taken an RV Trip?![]()
Do we really have to have a debate about what "normal schooling" vs. home schooling is?
I wonder why more people here don't home school their kids?
I've already agreed two years doesn't seem like a huge deal to me. Would you all be cool with it if he did this with his kids permanently? How many years is too many? 4? 6? 10? And if there's a "too many," then why is that?
Holy crap that's a good point. Does the whole family sleep in the same room together every night? For TWO YEARS?2 years sounds like a perfect amount of time. In this situation where the home schooling is temporary, I see that as different than the home schooled fringe of society types that pull their kids out entirely until high school or beyond.
Some guys have alluded to one major sacrifice, and that's the issue with railing the wife on a regular basis or with any kind of thoroughness.
I'm also not sure my wife would be able to handle a shower/grooming situation like that for more than a night or two.
They typically have doors, but the family are all sleeping in the same large vehicle.Holy crap that's a good point. Does the whole family sleep in the same room together every night? For TWO YEARS?2 years sounds like a perfect amount of time. In this situation where the home schooling is temporary, I see that as different than the home schooled fringe of society types that pull their kids out entirely until high school or beyond.
Some guys have alluded to one major sacrifice, and that's the issue with railing the wife on a regular basis or with any kind of thoroughness.
I'm also not sure my wife would be able to handle a shower/grooming situation like that for more than a night or two.
Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
And...post #1 before he said "They all share the bunkhouse in the front of the RV. My wife and I have a bedroom in the back."Holy crap that's a good point. Does the whole family sleep in the same room together every night? For TWO YEARS?2 years sounds like a perfect amount of time. In this situation where the home schooling is temporary, I see that as different than the home schooled fringe of society types that pull their kids out entirely until high school or beyond.
Some guys have alluded to one major sacrifice, and that's the issue with railing the wife on a regular basis or with any kind of thoroughness.
I'm also not sure my wife would be able to handle a shower/grooming situation like that for more than a night or two.
How "long term" is long term enough to raise a concern? Just curious. 2 is ok, but 4 years? 6? It all just seems like a very hard way for children to live, doesn't strike me as fair to them. Great for the parents, but I don't think I could do it to kids, even if it forces them into some neat life experiences.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
And...post #1 before he said "They all share the bunkhouse in the front of the RV. My wife and I have a bedroom in the back."Holy crap that's a good point. Does the whole family sleep in the same room together every night? For TWO YEARS?2 years sounds like a perfect amount of time. In this situation where the home schooling is temporary, I see that as different than the home schooled fringe of society types that pull their kids out entirely until high school or beyond.
Some guys have alluded to one major sacrifice, and that's the issue with railing the wife on a regular basis or with any kind of thoroughness.
I'm also not sure my wife would be able to handle a shower/grooming situation like that for more than a night or two.
You know Iyou, buddy, but you're too busy paying someone $5000 to clear the snow off your front walk to read the thread.
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At least you came around to the right way of thinking on this, which is that it might be great just as much as other stuff might be great. Neither option is automatically bad.
And to this point, while we're wasting our innernets dissecting text, I still don't know if he's told us how long he's planned on doing this. Two years doesn't seem like a long time I suppose, but he hasn't ended the trip. They're still out doing it and I didn't see any suggestion they are stopping soon.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
No one suggested they didn't have private time; they asked. He posted pics of the layout of the place. I can't really do any more datamining in this thread for you.How "long term" is long term enough to raise a concern? Just curious. 2 is ok, but 4 years? 6? It all just seems like a very hard way for children to live, doesn't strike me as fair to them. Great for the parents, but I don't think I could do it to kids, even if it forces them into some neat life experiences.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
And...post #1 before he said "They all share the bunkhouse in the front of the RV. My wife and I have a bedroom in the back."Holy crap that's a good point. Does the whole family sleep in the same room together every night? For TWO YEARS?2 years sounds like a perfect amount of time. In this situation where the home schooling is temporary, I see that as different than the home schooled fringe of society types that pull their kids out entirely until high school or beyond.
Some guys have alluded to one major sacrifice, and that's the issue with railing the wife on a regular basis or with any kind of thoroughness.
I'm also not sure my wife would be able to handle a shower/grooming situation like that for more than a night or two.
You know Iyou, buddy, but you're too busy paying someone $5000 to clear the snow off your front walk to read the thread.
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At least you came around to the right way of thinking on this, which is that it might be great just as much as other stuff might be great. Neither option is automatically bad.
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Thanks for this quote -- "They all share the bunkhouse in the front of the RV. My wife and I have a bedroom in the back." -- I still have no idea what any of this means. I don't know what a bunkhouse is, and I don't know if a "bedroom" is a separate sleeping area, a whole different room, in the bunkhouse, or in the RV, or something else. Others here seemed to be suggesting they didn't have any private time. Which is why I got the impression this is all one big room or something.
So, solid quotepower here k-dawg, but it's not super helpful.
Again, it's all in the thread if you care to read. They've been out less than two years and he is ending it for his oldest kid to settle in and find a high school to start next year. That's all quite well discussed and clear. So the "suggestion that they are stopping soon" is right there.And to this point, while we're wasting our innernets dissecting text, I still don't know if he's told us how long he's planned on doing this. Two years doesn't seem like a long time I suppose, but he hasn't ended the trip. They're still out doing it and I didn't see any suggestion they are stopping soon.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
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Not sure how this is great for the parents. I can't be the only one thinking that being around your wife and kids 24/7 wouldn't be rough; I don't care how great they are. And my wife and I have good jobs and good degrees with some pretty good heads on our shoulders, but we should not be the one's providing the schooling to our children. I certainly don't want that responsibility. I'd much rather pay some other people that are far more qualified to handle that.How "long term" is long term enough to raise a concern? Just curious. 2 is ok, but 4 years? 6? It all just seems like a very hard way for children to live, doesn't strike me as fair to them. Great for the parents, but I don't think I could do it to kids, even if it forces them into some neat life experiences.
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I saw the layout pictures. It shows a queen bed in one area, and a kitchen space in the other. He talked about a "bunk" for the kids. I still have no idea where this is.No one suggested they didn't have private time; they asked. He posted pics of the layout of the place. I can't really do any more datamining in this thread for you.How "long term" is long term enough to raise a concern? Just curious. 2 is ok, but 4 years? 6? It all just seems like a very hard way for children to live, doesn't strike me as fair to them. Great for the parents, but I don't think I could do it to kids, even if it forces them into some neat life experiences.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
And...post #1 before he said "They all share the bunkhouse in the front of the RV. My wife and I have a bedroom in the back."Holy crap that's a good point. Does the whole family sleep in the same room together every night? For TWO YEARS?2 years sounds like a perfect amount of time. In this situation where the home schooling is temporary, I see that as different than the home schooled fringe of society types that pull their kids out entirely until high school or beyond.
Some guys have alluded to one major sacrifice, and that's the issue with railing the wife on a regular basis or with any kind of thoroughness.
I'm also not sure my wife would be able to handle a shower/grooming situation like that for more than a night or two.
You know Iyou, buddy, but you're too busy paying someone $5000 to clear the snow off your front walk to read the thread.
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At least you came around to the right way of thinking on this, which is that it might be great just as much as other stuff might be great. Neither option is automatically bad.
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Thanks for this quote -- "They all share the bunkhouse in the front of the RV. My wife and I have a bedroom in the back." -- I still have no idea what any of this means. I don't know what a bunkhouse is, and I don't know if a "bedroom" is a separate sleeping area, a whole different room, in the bunkhouse, or in the RV, or something else. Others here seemed to be suggesting they didn't have any private time. Which is why I got the impression this is all one big room or something.
So, solid quotepower here k-dawg, but it's not super helpful.![]()
He's also talking about going back off into the desert next month. Still doesn't strike me as all that clear. But OK, so I'll take your word for it.Again, it's all in the thread if you care to read. They've been out less than two years and he is ending it for his oldest kid to settle in and find a high school to start next year. That's all quite well discussed and clear. So the "suggestion that they are stopping soon" is right there.And to this point, while we're wasting our innernets dissecting text, I still don't know if he's told us how long he's planned on doing this. Two years doesn't seem like a long time I suppose, but he hasn't ended the trip. They're still out doing it and I didn't see any suggestion they are stopping soon.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
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I mean this kindly, but it would help to read the thread first before jumping in with the judgmental stuff. Once you have, if you wish to be judgmental, at least you'd be doing it on the basis of some knowledge and information.
Read further. And look further on layout pictures--they were several different models.He's also talking about going back off into the desert next month. Still doesn't strike me as all that clear. But OK, so I'll take your word for it.Again, it's all in the thread if you care to read. They've been out less than two years and he is ending it for his oldest kid to settle in and find a high school to start next year. That's all quite well discussed and clear. So the "suggestion that they are stopping soon" is right there.And to this point, while we're wasting our innernets dissecting text, I still don't know if he's told us how long he's planned on doing this. Two years doesn't seem like a long time I suppose, but he hasn't ended the trip. They're still out doing it and I didn't see any suggestion they are stopping soon.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
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I mean this kindly, but it would help to read the thread first before jumping in with the judgmental stuff. Once you have, if you wish to be judgmental, at least you'd be doing it on the basis of some knowledge and information.
Sorry if you don't agree with my questions. People post things here, and they get reactions from other people here. That's what we do. He asked for questions, I raised some.
All the way in the front. The part that would be over the truck bed. There is a floor plan in the pictures he linked.I saw the layout pictures. It shows a queen bed in one area, and a kitchen space in the other. He talked about a "bunk" for the kids. I still have no idea where this is.No one suggested they didn't have private time; they asked. He posted pics of the layout of the place. I can't really do any more datamining in this thread for you.How "long term" is long term enough to raise a concern? Just curious. 2 is ok, but 4 years? 6? It all just seems like a very hard way for children to live, doesn't strike me as fair to them. Great for the parents, but I don't think I could do it to kids, even if it forces them into some neat life experiences.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
And...post #1 before he said "They all share the bunkhouse in the front of the RV. My wife and I have a bedroom in the back."Holy crap that's a good point. Does the whole family sleep in the same room together every night? For TWO YEARS?2 years sounds like a perfect amount of time. In this situation where the home schooling is temporary, I see that as different than the home schooled fringe of society types that pull their kids out entirely until high school or beyond.
Some guys have alluded to one major sacrifice, and that's the issue with railing the wife on a regular basis or with any kind of thoroughness.
I'm also not sure my wife would be able to handle a shower/grooming situation like that for more than a night or two.
You know Iyou, buddy, but you're too busy paying someone $5000 to clear the snow off your front walk to read the thread.
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At least you came around to the right way of thinking on this, which is that it might be great just as much as other stuff might be great. Neither option is automatically bad.
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Thanks for this quote -- "They all share the bunkhouse in the front of the RV. My wife and I have a bedroom in the back." -- I still have no idea what any of this means. I don't know what a bunkhouse is, and I don't know if a "bedroom" is a separate sleeping area, a whole different room, in the bunkhouse, or in the RV, or something else. Others here seemed to be suggesting they didn't have any private time. Which is why I got the impression this is all one big room or something.
So, solid quotepower here k-dawg, but it's not super helpful.![]()
Why not just answer them if you have an answer? How hard do I have to look? I saw a bunch of pictures and a bunch of floorplans that show what I described.Read further. And look further on layout pictures--they were several different models.He's also talking about going back off into the desert next month. Still doesn't strike me as all that clear. But OK, so I'll take your word for it.Again, it's all in the thread if you care to read. They've been out less than two years and he is ending it for his oldest kid to settle in and find a high school to start next year. That's all quite well discussed and clear. So the "suggestion that they are stopping soon" is right there.And to this point, while we're wasting our innernets dissecting text, I still don't know if he's told us how long he's planned on doing this. Two years doesn't seem like a long time I suppose, but he hasn't ended the trip. They're still out doing it and I didn't see any suggestion they are stopping soon.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
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I mean this kindly, but it would help to read the thread first before jumping in with the judgmental stuff. Once you have, if you wish to be judgmental, at least you'd be doing it on the basis of some knowledge and information.
Sorry if you don't agree with my questions. People post things here, and they get reactions from other people here. That's what we do. He asked for questions, I raised some.
I don't have a problem with your questions. Just trying to help answer them since you didn't read the thread.
Ha. He's already scouting out models.We're about 3 years from Otis starting a thread titled "Thinking of buying an RV and hitting the road for 2 years".
Ha. He's already scouting out models.We're about 3 years from Otis starting a thread titled "Thinking of buying an RV and hitting the road for 2 years".
All of that is going to be a lot closer once you move to Denver.Ha. He's already scouting out models.We're about 3 years from Otis starting a thread titled "Thinking of buying an RV and hitting the road for 2 years".![]()
Seriously though I could totally get down with doing a few weeks here and there. Lots of places out west I'd love to drive though and check out.