I need help losing weight and getting back in shape (1 Viewer)

[Sabertooth]

Yeah guys great points.

It's actually pretty simple. Eat less (and eat right) and move more. It's a consistent message. But guys who are in their late 30's early 40's are so used to eating whatever they want, but they stopped moving years ago. So the pounds packed on, the fat deposits kept growing, the belly got large and here you are.

So if your going to have a meaningful weight loss program so you can get to a point that you can "maintain" a healthy weight, and have the body you really want.......

YOU MUST COMMIT TO A LIFE CHANGE!!!

You must re-train your body and retrain your eating habits. It's about developing a new routine to live every day going forward. If you don't like it....then don't do it. But don't expect meaningful change to your body, and mind. If you want to stand up and make a change for your well being you can do it.

It's about how committed you are and how bad do you really want it?

2000 calories a day is 2000 calories. No question.

But you have to eat the right 2000 calories so you are satisfied, healthy and not feeling hungry all day (and feeding your muscles and mind the right foods to burn fat and get stronger) because I firmly believe you must work out 30 minutes a day, 5-6 days a week to take this all the way. But a real effective non stop workout with cardio intervals, and a couple of workouts a week with only cardio (to rest your muscles you worked with light weights). Cardio and light dumbbell training is a God send. Circuit training changed my life. I am not a kid anymore. I don't get to play sports on a field and run around half the day 5 days a week. I need to get 30 minutes of intense kick ### exercise and I am done for the day.

It's so empowering knowing that in the morning after my 30 minutes of circuit training, I am done. And I feel great about it. My body craves it's workout in the morning as much as my breakfast. That is when you know it's working. And once you develop this mentality and life style you're not going to want to down 15 hot wings, or a greasy burger everyday. Because let's get real here. You got to this point eating like absolute crap almost everyday and your not exercising. Once you get your ### back into shape and work hard.....you're not going to want to throw it all away. Your going to maintain it. Your going to make the right choices. Your body will be so accustomed to it that when you do indulge you will not go crazy and truly enjoy an indulgent meal once in a while. Not every day. Not every week. But once a month having a splurge. It's OK once you change your life style and get to your goals. Maintaining is easy if you change your habits!

Our country is in serious trouble with obesity. It's a real disease.

Commit to change. If you can't, just carry on with the way you have been and stop torturing yourself by eating right for 3-4 days then blowing it all up in one sitting. You will get depressed. You will be all over the chart. You will drive yourself insane. If your OK with how you feel and look. So be it. No problem. It's your life.

I really am not trying to come off sanctimonious and on a high horse. But I went through a heavy period in my life. Nothing like obesity. But I did get 20 pounds overweight (after having my son), and developed love handles and a small gut. For me that was a big deal, but I nipped it in the butt.

However my brother in-law who is a great friend of mine, is flat out huge. I mean we are talking 5'9' and 275. Fat as a ****ing house. I am pleading with him to change. I am begging him to change. I want him to see his daughter grow up. I don't want to see him drop dead of a heart attack. He has a bad back, gout, high blood pressure. Just bad.

So my passion comes from me trying to help a member of my family (and of course I live this everyday myself and love how I feel). Otherwise he is going to drop dead one day....and it will kill his wife and daughter. He needs to make the change fast. He is also 45. Time to clean the plumbing, lose the weight and get into fighting shape.....for your health Gussy.

It's for your health!!!!]

Dive in. Get hardcore. Get pissed off you did this to yourself. It's your fault. Now sack the **ck up and get into fighting shape. Your muscles are still stronger than you think. You can start working out now (the PM I sent you has the right workout program for you)!!! And eat right!!!!

When your wife see's you doing this for a month...if she does not get inspired to make the same change I would be shocked. You can support each other. Do this together. Strength in numbers.

DO IT!!!!!!!!!

OK I am done preaching Gussy. I am just trying to be a birdie in your ear and motivate you. Because you need a swift kick in the ### before your heart tell's you you have reached your limit. Don't let it get to that.

What PM? Can I get the PM?

 

[shader]

Both were heart related. They believed the constant massive swings in diet and exercise pushed them over the edge.

Well that's a bit different than what we were talking about.

Do you really think a guy that struggles making good decisions eating and currently has health issues should start significantly under eating days after over eating? This would be a terrible habit to start.

Yes I think he should under eat as much as he can. Especially after he overeats.

Given the bad habits displayed to this point, this could have dangerous consequences if sustained over several weeks/months. I have never seen this approach work over the long term, especially with someone with the dietary issues he started with. It's taken years of bad decisions to get to this point. In order to get healthy one needs to start making good ones. This approach doesn't necessarily encourage bad decisions, but it doesn't discourage them either; if anything it unintentionally enables them.

You've never seen someone undereat and lose weight?

A male north of 250 semi-routinely consuming 1K calories in a day with a history similar to gussy? No, I've never seen a successful case. They've all regressed at some point. Obviously, some worse than others.

To be fair, I didn't ask him to routinely do this. I said do it in response to a really bad cheat day one time. I think we all agree that he doesn't really need those cheat days. But when he does fall off the wagon, I personally think it's easier to try and "make up ground" by putting himself in a severe caloric deficit the next day. Heck, if he wants he can eat 1800 calories the next day and go burn 800 in the gym. Whatever. It's all the same.

But if you routinely cheat and then go back to a slow and steady 1700-1900 calorie diet, you are going to progress at a very slow rate, which is demoralizing in itself.

Based on what he's posted to date he's very susceptible to bad days. Planning is not a strong suit, neither is good decision making. If given an out for a bad day someone like him is likely to take advantage of it. Repeatedly.

Will a day of severely under eating cause any long term issues? No, of course not.

Do I expect someone with a history of poor planning/bad decisions re diet to only occasionally end up in this situation? No, of course not.

Well mac, I agree it's a difficult situation if anyone has really bad days on a regular basis.

For now, hopefully this is just a one-time thing due to his wife's birthday.

Gussy, I highly recommend trying to eat to maintenance on the weekends. You figure out how to make that happen. Pig out sat, "fasting sunday", or two maintenance days. I think in the long run that would help you. If every weekend you feel like you have "failed", then you'll get depressed and stop dieting. If you feel this is going to happen every week, plan for it by giving yourself more calories.

But if you're going to do that, you'll have slower weight loss. You can compensate either by eating fewer calories during the week, or by being ok with your weight loss taking 28% longer than it otherwise would.

 

[cstu]

Gussy, I highly recommend trying to eat to maintenance on the weekends. You figure out how to make that happen. Pig out sat, "fasting sunday", or two maintenance days. I think in the long run that would help you. If every weekend you feel like you have "failed", then you'll get depressed and stop dieting. If you feel this is going to happen every week, plan for it by giving yourself more calories.

If you know you're going to eat 3000 calories tomorrow then limit yourself to 1000 today. Then you have no guilt from pigging out.

 

[NutterButter]

Health reasons aside, most with significant weight loss goals are usually not successful doing it anyway. Lack of discipline and poor planning is why they are in this situation in the first place. How are they going to be disciplined enough to successfully complete a fast? Most of my clients that have tried have failed. Some, massively.

Edit: actually, I don't think any of my clients have been successful. I used to date a Pilates instructor that did it occasionally. Very disciplined, stubborn woman. Impossible to be around for a week or so before, during, and after. It worked for her if anyone that knows her just cut off any contact with her for ten days.

I just don't eat until lunch, then after 8:00 the kitchen is closed. Not that hard. Not much discipline needed.

If only there was a successful diet that said you can eat whatever you want between the hours of 12 and 8. That would be awesome.

I doubt it. I could eat 3500 calories in 8 hours easy, and I'd start gaining weight like crazy if I did it. The "whatever you want" mantra in many diets sells books and is popular, but ultimately it's about the quantity, not the timing.

Don't be a ####### idiot and the weight falls off pretty easily. You still have to eat good food. But cutting out 8 hours of eat time during a day is pretty important. Heck most people have 500 calories in before lunch and eat another 500 after 8:00.

This plan of yours is really starting to take form. Only eat between 12 and 8 and don't be a ####### idiot.

 

[cstu]

YOU MUST COMMIT TO A LIFE CHANGE!!!

You must re-train your body and retrain your eating habits. It's about developing a new routine to live every day going forward. If you don't like it....then don't do it. But don't expect meaningful change to your body, and mind. If you want to stand up and make a change for your well being you can do it.

It's about how committed you are and how bad do you really want it

I've posted this before and will continue to post it:

You need to want to be healthy more than you want to eat food.

I've always been able to lose weight but then slowly had it come back on (10 lb. gain a year is just 96 calories a day over maintenance). Finally last June it clicked for me that being in shape was more important to me than those extra 96 calories a day. I have no doubt this time when I get to my goal weight I'll be able to maintain it because it's just that important to me.

It's crazy to realize that the difference between a thin person and a fat person is less than a chocolate chip cookie every day.

 

[DocHolliday]

Still lots of great advice and motivation coming at Gus.

Hang in there Gus. You are on the right path. You have acknowledged that you have a problem and have taken baby steps. Those baby steps are a good start but are not going to be good enough. I am repeating myself but you have to get your wife to do this with you. You have to take this seriously.

Good luck.

 

[Sabertooth]

Health reasons aside, most with significant weight loss goals are usually not successful doing it anyway. Lack of discipline and poor planning is why they are in this situation in the first place. How are they going to be disciplined enough to successfully complete a fast? Most of my clients that have tried have failed. Some, massively.

Edit: actually, I don't think any of my clients have been successful. I used to date a Pilates instructor that did it occasionally. Very disciplined, stubborn woman. Impossible to be around for a week or so before, during, and after. It worked for her if anyone that knows her just cut off any contact with her for ten days.

I just don't eat until lunch, then after 8:00 the kitchen is closed. Not that hard. Not much discipline needed.

If only there was a successful diet that said you can eat whatever you want between the hours of 12 and 8. That would be awesome.

I doubt it. I could eat 3500 calories in 8 hours easy, and I'd start gaining weight like crazy if I did it. The "whatever you want" mantra in many diets sells books and is popular, but ultimately it's about the quantity, not the timing.

Don't be a ####### idiot and the weight falls off pretty easily. You still have to eat good food. But cutting out 8 hours of eat time during a day is pretty important. Heck most people have 500 calories in before lunch and eat another 500 after 8:00.

This plan of yours is really starting to take form. Only eat between 12 and 8 and don't be a ####### idiot.

Yep. That'll be $299.

 

[Sabertooth]

YOU MUST COMMIT TO A LIFE CHANGE!!!

You must re-train your body and retrain your eating habits. It's about developing a new routine to live every day going forward. If you don't like it....then don't do it. But don't expect meaningful change to your body, and mind. If you want to stand up and make a change for your well being you can do it.

It's about how committed you are and how bad do you really want it

I've posted this before and will continue to post it:

You need to want to be healthy more than you want to eat food.

I've always been able to lose weight but then slowly had it come back on (10 lb. gain a year is just 96 calories a day over maintenance). Finally last June it clicked for me that being in shape was more important to me than those extra 96 calories a day. I have no doubt this time when I get to my goal weight I'll be able to maintain it because it's just that important to me.

It's crazy to realize that the difference between a thin person and a fat person is less than a chocolate chip cookie every day.

The bolded is really the only thing that is going to allow you success.

 

[MAC_32]

Gussy, I highly recommend trying to eat to maintenance on the weekends. You figure out how to make that happen. Pig out sat, "fasting sunday", or two maintenance days. I think in the long run that would help you. If every weekend you feel like you have "failed", then you'll get depressed and stop dieting. If you feel this is going to happen every week, plan for it by giving yourself more calories.

If you know you're going to eat 3000 calories tomorrow then limit yourself to 1000 today. Then you have no guilt from pigging out.

Or get your ### out of bed and go burn an extra 500 calories exercising each morning.

 

[gussy]

First off, I do appreciate everybody's feedback. If you think you're being sanctimonious, don't. I may give you crap back, but a lot of it is probably me just justifying behavior. I've been at this 10 days, I've had one day I went over and then one, what I would call, planned pig out (I guess) day. I skipped dinner last night, jumped on the scale this morning, and after the entire weekend was only up .2 lbs from my Saturday morning weigh in (that's POINT two, not TWO) I know some of you will tell me to quit focusing on the weight and focus on getting healthy..........in my mind, it goes hand in hand. I've logged food for 10 days, I'm figuring out some things (for instance, I have a real sodium problem), and still learning as I go. I will tell you how my mind thinks, it thinks "2 vodka martini's?" not great, but not terrible, vodka is one of the alcohol's with the least amount of calories. It thinks "12 wings and nothing else, no fries?" It's a bunch of food, but it's all protein, and isn't going to kill me. I had a friend that lost quite a bit and basically ALL he ate for lunch and dinner was wings. I know there's fat on the wings, etc. But as opposed to other choices there, I felt it was the right choice. Could I have made it on 6? Probably. A lot of that was probably disappointment in the previous night's meal. It thinks "McD's bad, but if you're going to do it, have the filet of fish, it's got the least amount of calories on the menu".

At the end of the day, limiting my caloric intake is what I've chosen. I've got a major "not wanting to get off my ###" problem, and I'm hoping that I will get more motivated to add that as I go. I'm hoping that as weight comes off I'll get more motivated with regards to that. I don't feel bad when I'm walking, I just find too many other time wasters to make time, and I also hate the treadmill. Last week the weather was nice, this week not so much. This is the area I really need to get committed to.

For 10 days, I've pretty drastically cut my calories for 8 of the 10, I've added fruit in to my diet on a number of those days, which I wasn't really eating ANY of. I've totally cut McD's breakfast from my diet, I've cut my drinking fairly substantially, only drank one weekday last week, and it was 2 glasses of cab. Had 4 drinks for an entire weekend and that was really only because of a special occassion.

I'm happy with how I'm progressing, I see a TON of areas I still need improvement in.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

A few pages back I cleared up some myths about fruit and how it is not even in the same ball park with candy bars, didn't know we hadn't moved past that point in science class here but since that was eye opening for a few I thought it best to start clearing up some terrible rumors about FAT. I'm not talking about the fat that hangs on your belly blocking a terrific view of your johnson. BTW did you know that whatever you see hanging on the outside is also hanging the same on the inside? Yes I'm afraid whatever tire roll you have on the outside is also accompanied by a twin pressing up against your organs and other important stuff internally. Think about that for a minute.

OK, I'm speaking about the fat grams you find in food. I'm not going to get into the different types of fat but I will focus on a couple including the fat you find in olive oil and real butter as well as many animal cuts of meat you like to chew into. Your body needs a certain amount of fat to be healthy. I know we have all seen Herschel Walker getting down to 3% body fat...just erase that from your head because a lot of the extra snacking you want to do comes from the fact you are not getting enough good fats into your system.

Much like fiber, fats will give you a sense of feeling full. This is why low fat diets did not work and people were breaking emergency glass to get to the snickers bars. If you have a choice between low fat vs full freight, I encourage you to just have it all. Stop drinking low fat milk, have a glass of whole milk. Not many more calories and you will feel better and fuller. Dairy in general is not real good for you but I like pizza and lots of other dairy so when I have it I just eat the whole milk products.

We can go back and forth about the merits of fat vs low fat and I'm not encouraging you to load up on heavy fat but look at the people of France. They have a diet that is loaded with fat but they don't eat a lot of potato chips. Read up on what I am saying but in general you need to stop being Mr Low Fat dude, it's not a good look and it's taking away from your place at the man's table.

I know red meat is not healthy but at the same time you tend to feel much fuller after eating a good steak or hamburger. I know plenty of folks that eat red meat and they are well into their 70s and 80s, if I make it that long I'm good. I found a lot of comfort in eating a nice steak once or twice a week when I was trying to lose weight. If you just stick to meat n potatoes and stop the excessive snacking all the time you will find there is a lot of food you can actually have.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And one thing I feel is obvious as you read thru all these pages is that when you cook for yourself and don't eat out a lot, it's hard to not be healthier than the folks wheeling thru a drive thru several times a week if not daily.

You want something sweet and sinful? Don't go buy it in a plastic wrapper, go home and make a tray of brownies from scratch not the box junk. Make your own fudge and cookies, give away some of it if you are afraid you might eat too much, folks love it when you show up with homemade sweets and goodies.

You can have whatever you want IMO as long as you are willing to go to the store and buy the ingredients and make some real food.

 

[MAC_32]

Speaking of good fats, avocados are the greatest food ever invented.

 

[gussy]

Speaking of good fats, avocados are the greatest food ever invented.

Love avocados, should really buy some for afternoon snacks. Used to love cutting them in half, salting them (sodium problem) and eating them. Bunch of calories?

 

[cstu]

Speaking of good fats, avocados are the greatest food ever invented.

Love avocados, should really buy some for afternoon snacks. Used to love cutting them in half, salting them (sodium problem) and eating them. Bunch of calories?

300 calories each.

They are very good for you but not the first food I would recommend while you're cutting.

 

[Willie Neslon]

I know some of you will tell me to quit focusing on the weight and focus on getting healthy..........in my mind, it goes hand in hand.

I think the point some are making is if you focus on getting healthy then the weight will come off no matter what. I say it'd be possible for you to lose a substantial amount of weight and still not be in a good place with your health. If you focused on something like getting your blood pressure under control, the weight is going to come off as a side effect of that effort. I think the goal should not be to just eat less crap, the goal should be to eat better stuff. You're stage 1 hypertension and you're on bp medication already. Eating something like that "salad" you ate last week that had a full day's worth of sodium is just not good decision. This weekend was a 2 drink, steak dinner, cheesecake desert, followed up by a bloody for breakfast and 12 wings. McD's drive through after that. Sorry man, I don't care how the calorie count is going, that's just not a stretch of decision making for a guy trying to get to a better place.

Just being honest here, another thing you've done a bunch of times in this thread is make excuses. It's like one excuse after another as to why you can't make better decisions. You have kids, you have an addictive personality, you have parties to attend, the weather isn't great, and on and on and on. That guy who made those fantasy football excuse shirts should make a I can't get healthy excuse shirt for you. Last week you said you had 15 minutes to get to the office so you had to stop at some bar for a bacon, ham and egg sandwich? Doesn't make any sense. The other thing is you don't even realize when you're eating bad. You ate a salad last week that was essentially chicken mcnuggets wrapped in lettuce, dipped in salsa with a side of tortilla chips and cheese. You patted yourself on the back and used your famous "could have been much worse" defense. That's just not going to get it done.

What about instead of going out to dinner a few times this week you use that money on an appointment with a nutritionist? Someone who can help you with a BP reduction plan? Look, we all eat crap sometimes. It's inevitable. I like delicious unhealthy stuff as much as you do. You need to be able to at least acknowledge when you're eating garbage. A filet o fish at Mcdonalds is garbage. I don't care how many less calories it has compared to the rest of the menu. You can still eat it if you want to but you need to stop lying to yourself and thinking it's not a bad option because there are others that are worse. Once you at least acknowledge that what you're eating is working against you in terms of getting healthy you can make different choices. Right now it feels like you're oblivious. It's frustrating to read.

 

[mitchh1124]

Sorry Herschel never got to 3 percent BF lmao

He would be near death

The most ripped bodybuilder ever never saw less than 5..

And that's for one day

One can not function long on such a low BF

No other sport gets to BF levels this low.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1075/630/d/1995_arnold_classic_review_b1216139758.jpg

That is around 5 percent BF

Herschel was about 8 percent

 

[MAC_32]

Speaking of good fats, avocados are the greatest food ever invented.

Love avocados, should really buy some for afternoon snacks. Used to love cutting them in half, salting them (sodium problem) and eating them. Bunch of calories?

Yes, a lot of calories. Without offsetting with exercise it would be difficult to implement into your routine right now. Something to back pocket for later though. Go-to afternoon snack for me.

 

[James Daulton]

Sorry Herschel never got to 3 percent BF lmao

He would be near death

The most ripped bodybuilder ever never saw less than 5..

And that's for one day

One can not function long on such a low BF

No other sport gets to BF levels this low.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1075/630/d/1995_arnold_classic_review_b1216139758.jpg

That is around 5 percent BF

Herschel was about 8 percent

Lane claims to be a natty...

 

[cstu]

We can go back and forth about the merits of fat vs low fat and I'm not encouraging you to load up on heavy fat but look at the people of France. They have a diet that is loaded with fat but they don't eat a lot of potato chips. Read up on what I am saying but in general you need to stop being Mr Low Fat dude, it's not a good look and it's taking away from your place at the man's table.

A few things that stand out when you visit Europe:

- people eat more freshly made food, often considered 'bad' for you here like croissants for breakfast and desserts

- people walk or bicycle a lot

- people don't eat much fast food/candy/processed junk food

Not much we can do about the walking since our cities aren't set up the same way (most of us can't walk/bike to work), but the other two we can.

 

[cstu]

That guy who made those fantasy football excuse shirts should make a I can't get healthy excuse shirt for you.

 

[mitchh1124]

Sorry Herschel never got to 3 percent BF lmao

He would be near death

The most ripped bodybuilder ever never saw less than 5..

And that's for one day

One can not function long on such a low BF

No other sport gets to BF levels this low.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1075/630/d/1995_arnold_classic_review_b1216139758.jpg

That is around 5 percent BF

Herschel was about 8 percent

Lane claims to be a natty...

Lol Layne Norton is full of crap

 

[James Daulton]

Sorry Herschel never got to 3 percent BF lmao

He would be near death

The most ripped bodybuilder ever never saw less than 5..

And that's for one day

One can not function long on such a low BF

No other sport gets to BF levels this low.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1075/630/d/1995_arnold_classic_review_b1216139758.jpg

That is around 5 percent BF

Herschel was about 8 percent

Lane claims to be a natty...

Lol Layne Norton is full of crap

Oh man, you better hope Layne doesn't see this post. He gets all riled up when people dispute his nattyness.

 

[cstu]

Just 13 years of pure hard work...

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Just 13 years of pure hard work...

That guy will be a wreck when he hits his 40s if not sooner. Look around the gym at all the over 50 dudes walking around.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

That guy who made those fantasy football excuse shirts should make a I can't get healthy excuse shirt for you.

We could have a hand pointing to a snickers bar.

 

[Snickers]

I'm going to haunt your dreams gussy, you know you want me

 

[mitchh1124]

Just 13 years of pure hard work...

That guy will be a wreck when he hits his 40s if not sooner. Look around the gym at all the over 50 dudes walking around.

Over 50?

Here are my parents both over 50 years of age

PS ..I wrote both their diets for the competition

http://s27.postimg.org/fu8q6dwgj/image.jpg

 

[Tick]

I'm going to haunt your dreams gussy, you know you want me

Solid work lately, Snicks.

 

[Otis]

I'm going to haunt your dreams gussy, you know you want me

Dude, nobody wants you. Even fat gussy. You're terrible.

 

[James Daulton]

I'm going to haunt your dreams gussy, you know you want me

Solid work lately, Snicks.

How does he know when he gets mentioned? SnickSignal?

 

[James Daulton]

Just 13 years of pure hard work...

That guy will be a wreck when he hits his 40s if not sooner. Look around the gym at all the over 50 dudes walking around.

Over 50?

Here are my parents both over 50 years of age

PS ..I wrote both their diets for the competition

http://s27.postimg.org/fu8q6dwgj/image.jpg

First of all, only someone who doesn't workout would suggest that it will be somehow bad for you when you're older.

And secondly, your parents are over 50? What bf % does your dad walk around at normally? And a few more pics of your mom, tia.

 

[the moops]

the dude is trying to lose a few pounds. he's not trying to become the next Mr universe

 

[mitchh1124]

no one every said that buddy...the point is age makes no difference...its a caloric deficit whether you are doing a competition or "losing a few pounds"

and my response was to a guy that said wait until they are over 50 his body will be a wreck.

 

[mitchh1124]

Just 13 years of pure hard work...

That guy will be a wreck when he hits his 40s if not sooner. Look around the gym at all the over 50 dudes walking around.

Over 50?

Here are my parents both over 50 years of age

PS ..I wrote both their diets for the competition

http://s27.postimg.org/fu8q6dwgj/image.jpg

First of all, only someone who doesn't workout would suggest that it will be somehow bad for you when you're older.

And secondly, your parents are over 50? What bf % does your dad walk around at normally? And a few more pics of your mom, tia.

dont have any more pics idk where they went ..

my dad is around 8-10 percent BF Off season..

 

[James Daulton]

Just 13 years of pure hard work...

That guy will be a wreck when he hits his 40s if not sooner. Look around the gym at all the over 50 dudes walking around.

Over 50?

Here are my parents both over 50 years of age

PS ..I wrote both their diets for the competition

http://s27.postimg.org/fu8q6dwgj/image.jpg

First of all, only someone who doesn't workout would suggest that it will be somehow bad for you when you're older.

And secondly, your parents are over 50? What bf % does your dad walk around at normally? And a few more pics of your mom, tia.

dont have any more pics idk where they went ..

my dad is around 8-10 percent BF Off season..

50+ and walking around < 10% bf? Even with an on-point diet, workout program, and supplements, he must have genetics of the gods. Good for him/you.

 

[GoBirds]

Quick question....mid 30s with 20 lbs to lose at least....how many calories per day to still live but drop a couple lbs a week. About 4 days a week I lift and get in 10 to 20 min of cardio each time at gym.

 

[mitchh1124]

Quick question....mid 30s with 20 lbs to lose at least....how many calories per day to still live but drop a couple lbs a week. About 4 days a week I lift and get in 10 to 20 min of cardio each time at gym.

how much do you weigh?

 

[GoBirds]

Quick question....mid 30s with 20 lbs to lose at least....how many calories per day to still live but drop a couple lbs a week. About 4 days a week I lift and get in 10 to 20 min of cardio each time at gym.

how much do you weigh?

235.

Ish haha

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I don't know one person over the age of 50 that works out. I mean they go to a gym and lift weights and are pumping iron, I don't see it. I worked with a dude who was short but built like he was in competition. He had turned 45 and said he had to stop bench pressing. This guy was in tip top shape, a 1% type not like the rest of us.

Walking, cycling, golf, tennis, these are activities you can do into your 70s and 80s, I encourage you to try and be active but heavy weightlifting for folks over 40, it might be the right thing to do for a few but most folks simply won't and it shows the lifestyle of weightlifters at some point is taken away from them, it's not sustainable for the entire lifespan of most folks.

We have seen so many men come in from the gridiron and its not pretty. These are top conditioned athletes as people have preached in here to me but the reality is a man was not made to hold 300 pounds even if it is a lot of muscle.

Small amounts of weights with repetition in order to tone, that's different. I'm talking bench pressing 180-225+ and doing sets. I know scietifically it is possible and every gym has that one or two guys that are 50+ still slinging weights around, good for them. The reality is most people in their 40s and 50s+ beyond are not running to the gym.

 

[James Daulton]

Quick question....mid 30s with 20 lbs to lose at least....how many calories per day to still live but drop a couple lbs a week. About 4 days a week I lift and get in 10 to 20 min of cardio each time at gym.

how much do you weigh?

235.

Ish haha

Going to need your height here too.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Quick question....mid 30s with 20 lbs to lose at least....how many calories per day to still live but drop a couple lbs a week. About 4 days a week I lift and get in 10 to 20 min of cardio each time at gym.

how much do you weigh?

235.

Ish haha

Going to need your height here too.

4' 6" ish.

 

[shader]

Gussy, a bit of advice for you tonight.

Figure out what your goal weight is.

Figure out what the maintenance would be for someone at your goal weight.

Remind yourself each day that in order to be at your goal weight, that will have to be your daily consumption for the rest of your life.

If you view it as a diet, you'll get to goal weight, then you'll go back to eating at a level that is suited for a 260 lb man, and you'll go back to 260.

Learn to eat like a 190-200 pound man. That's how you'll have to eat the rest of your life.

 

[Tick]

Quick question....mid 30s with 20 lbs to lose at least....how many calories per day to still live but drop a couple lbs a week. About 4 days a week I lift and get in 10 to 20 min of cardio each time at gym.

how much do you weigh?

235.

Ish haha

Get a calorie counter like myfitnesspal on your phone. Enter your stats and goals, see what it says.

2 pounds per week is too much too fast for the whole 20 pounds. You can do that for about 3 weeks, then you'll settle in at more like a half-pound per week.

 

[GoBirds]

Quick question....mid 30s with 20 lbs to lose at least....how many calories per day to still live but drop a couple lbs a week. About 4 days a week I lift and get in 10 to 20 min of cardio each time at gym.

how much do you weigh?

235.Ish haha

Going to need your height here too.

6'3"

 

[GoBirds]

Quick question....mid 30s with 20 lbs to lose at least....how many calories per day to still live but drop a couple lbs a week. About 4 days a week I lift and get in 10 to 20 min of cardio each time at gym.

how much do you weigh?

235.Ish haha

Get a calorie counter like myfitnesspal on your phone. Enter your stats and goals, see what it says.2 pounds per week is too much too fast for the whole 20 pounds. You can do that for about 3 weeks, then you'll settle in at more like a half-pound per week.

I like S Health on my Galaxy but can't find where it sets weight loss goals....looks like you just log weigh in. Counts steps which is cool.

 

[MAC_32]

Quick question....mid 30s with 20 lbs to lose at least....how many calories per day to still live but drop a couple lbs a week. About 4 days a week I lift and get in 10 to 20 min of cardio each time at gym.

how much do you weigh?

235.Ish haha

Going to need your height here too.

6'3"

north of 2k, probably 2500+ on exercise days, download myfitnesspal and track. You should get a better read after a couple weeks.

 

[Da Guru]

gussy, on 14 Dec 2015 - 2:50 PM, said:gussy, on 14 Dec 2015 - 2:50 PM, said:First off, I do appreciate everybody's feedback. If you think you're being sanctimonious, don't. I may give you crap back, but a lot of it is probably me just justifying behavior. I've been at this 10 days, I've had one day I went over and then one, what I would call, planned pig out (I guess) day. I skipped dinner last night, jumped on the scale this morning, and after the entire weekend was only up .2 lbs from my Saturday morning weigh in (that's POINT two, not TWO) I know some of you will tell me to quit focusing on the weight and focus on getting healthy..........in my mind, it goes hand in hand. I've logged food for 10 days, I'm figuring out some things (for instance, I have a real sodium problem), and still learning as I go. I will tell you how my mind thinks, it thinks "2 vodka martini's?" not great, but not terrible, vodka is one of the alcohol's with the least amount of calories. It thinks "12 wings and nothing else, no fries?" It's a bunch of food, but it's all protein, and isn't going to kill me. I had a friend that lost quite a bit and basically ALL he ate for lunch and dinner was wings. I know there's fat on the wings, etc. But as opposed to other choices there, I felt it was the right choice. Could I have made it on 6? Probably. A lot of that was probably disappointment in the previous night's meal. It thinks "McD's bad, but if you're going to do it, have the filet of fish, it's got the least amount of calories on the menu".

At the end of the day, limiting my caloric intake is what I've chosen. I've got a major "not wanting to get off my ###" problem, and I'm hoping that I will get more motivated to add that as I go. I'm hoping that as weight comes off I'll get more motivated with regards to that. I don't feel bad when I'm walking, I just find too many other time wasters to make time, and I also hate the treadmill. Last week the weather was nice, this week not so much. This is the area I really need to get committed to.

For 10 days, I've pretty drastically cut my calories for 8 of the 10, I've added fruit in to my diet on a number of those days, which I wasn't really eating ANY of. I've totally cut McD's breakfast from my diet, I've cut my drinking fairly substantially, only drank one weekday last week, and it was 2 glasses of cab. Had 4 drinks for an entire weekend and that was really only because of a special occassion.

I'm happy with how I'm progressing, I see a TON of areas I still need improvement in.

If you are going the calorie route download the Lose-It app and track all of your food intake. I use it just to see the macro breakdown of the food I eat. you can scan on the app as well. After a month when you look at your chart in is interesting to see your daily ups and downs.

 

[mitchh1124]

Quick question....mid 30s with 20 lbs to lose at least....how many calories per day to still live but drop a couple lbs a week. About 4 days a week I lift and get in 10 to 20 min of cardio each time at gym.

how much do you weigh?

235.Ish haha

Going to need your height here too.

6'3"

north of 2k, probably 2500+ on exercise days, download myfitnesspal and track. You should get a better read after a couple weeks.

yeah thats about it...

aggressively go around 2300 ..

start at 2500 and cut a few hundred every few weeks.

just have to adjust according

 

[the moops]

Logging what the hell you eat sounds like a real pain in the ###. Can't you just decide not to eat too much and make a concerted effort to move your body often?