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What fantasy land do live in where this isn’t how politics work?
This is one of the points I previously tried to make regarding these. Trump was required by law to release a financial disclosure. If you looked through it for even a few seconds it became painfully obvious there were tons and tons of corporations that fell under the trump umbrella. There were hundreds of millions in loans and other debt for various companies, billions in assets to holding companies and LLC's, and a very complex web of revenues and agreements.
Wouldn't it have been nice to know if he had conflicts of interest before voting for him?
Biggest difference is that, if a defendant, he carries the presumption of innocence. Cohen now does not.
Cohen has admitted to charges that will give him the best deal possible and the vast majority of what he admitted to had nothing to do with DJT. Amazing how much trouble people would stay out of if they would just pay their taxes. I'd argue that the weight of the US govt., and particularly the tactics used in this investigation, will get lots of "cooperation" out of witnesses.
This confuses me. Why would trump's personal tax return show you more conflicts of interest than a list of his sources of income, assets, and debts?
Good point. However, if evidence is presented, Trump's testimony to counter it has to come with very little credibility.
no more so than Bill and Hillary and the Obama's
good link, I didn't know about that
demanding tax returns isn't an indictment
most politicians are liars - House and Senate are full of them
The economic growth has not hit the lower and middle classes.
you didn't care because they disclosed them and there was nothing there...if there was something there you would have cared....just like you care about every other bad thing you think they did....
what conflicts ? the ones the Democrats are still hoping to find ?
I couldn't tell you a thing about any elected officials tax returns and neither can you - because we never care, we don't look, we only know what a media outlet tells us
As much as I don’t want to agree with a Bears fan (yes I’m still bitter about Sunday night) this is an excellent point.
They were all knowingly hoodwinked to believe that he and republican party were actually going to do something for the working and middle class.
That is an interesting point of consideration and if it was knowing, can it count as being hoodwinked? Seems more like being an accomplice in the hoodwinking.
I didn’t vote for Hillary, but she was 1000x better and more qualified than Trump. He isn’t even qualified to flip a coin
exactly
Pretty much. I was not a fan of the nomination at all. I voted Kasich in the primary and was hoping for him against Bernie. In the end the 2 legit candidates were Hillary and Trump so it made my decision easy. Hillary had a strong resume for POTUS. Trump had the worst resume for POTUS I can ever recall seeing. .
I actually don't think this is entirely true. I don't have statistics on it but I do know some Trump voters in Michigan who deeply regret their decision and would vote Hillary if they could go back in time.
it was the perfect storm for Trump - has there only been 1 or 2 GOP runners, he'd have never gotten the nomination
Do you know how many people around here, people that probably never voted DEM in their lives, voted for Hillary because Trump was the only other option?
and if Hillary had lied about oh, I dunno, Benghazi, emails, Clinton Foundation etc etc .... would they still have voted Hillary?
I was born shortly after he was voted out of office but its possible I might have hated what he stood for too, if he stood for racism and bigotry
Yes...you are know you support the guy but you are not willing to admit why.
I pick and choose threads just like everyone else sure ..... Russia and Stormy both are witch hunts I have no desire to spend hours and pages discussing. Kap and such .... I can learn from those, gun control I have too.
great, lets get LBJ out of the WH while we're at it
Quit lying. This was not the poll and you either know it or you're too dumb to understand it.
well Trump is only a racist and bigot because the left tells people to say he is - he really isn't that. LBJ was a racist and bigot - literally. nobody supports racism and bigotry that I know of - I doubt you know many people too, right? it exists primarily on CNN headline news
Trump Opponents - Would you rather have a Recession or Trump Re-election?
Well, if you're ignoring his actions, words and legislative attempts, yes, you are probably left with others telling you he's racist and a bigot. That's a commentary on the individual more than an undefined, broad generalization of "the left".
That link you provided doesn't say this:
and the % isn't the issue.
You should do a poll...test your theory. You'll be asked to define "good times" though, so be prepared. I'd absolutely take "good times and Trump" if part of the "good times" definition was an eradication of xenophobia, racism and sexism being on full display in the WH.
