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SportsGuru311
Footballguy
He may be done for the Year.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000303718/article/does-mike-munchak-have-support-of-titans-gm
In that video there, he states (roughly) that Locker's contract won't likely be picked up for 2015...which means the Titans are looking for a new QB. He mentions Cutler but could be anyone.
Not picking up an option on a young QB is the beginning of the end.
In that video there, he states (roughly) that Locker's contract won't likely be picked up for 2015...which means the Titans are looking for a new QB. He mentions Cutler but could be anyone.
Not picking up an option on a young QB is the beginning of the end.
MarcO
Footballguy
just depends on who picks him up. I doubt anyone brings him to be 'the guy' without a good backup plan - but I can see teams bringing him to give him a chance to compete for the starting job with a rookie or another FA. I like Locker and hope he gets another chance but there is always so much new talent coming into the NFL that it would not surprise me to see him go the way of a guy like Matt Leinart or David Carr.Bri said:
Fisher never coached Locker....just before anyone mistakenly puts him as a Rams backup.
Yeah I could see the Leinart/Carr exit.
I didn't realize he'd be in a boot so long. He's going to be stuck where he can't rehab for 3 months then and in the meantime lose all but two WRs(rest FAs) likely his RB, and also very possible the coaching staff. Link I posted above...there's a sign and another and another and another....I would like to see if he returns in phenomenal shape and just how he reacts to all of this. What an eventful offseason to motivate a player
msommer
Footballguy
Locker will cost $2m to cut outright (signing bonus), FitzPatrick 875k. In terms of cash Locker costs $2m to keep. Fitz 3.25m. They are both about 4m to keep in terms of cap. Both are UFAs after 2014. Would someone trade for Locker?
I'd be surprised if the Titans did not move on a QB, latest in the draft. If they get a vet I think Fitzpatrick is gone. If they get a rookie, I guess it depends on which QB the rookie is most like. Would make things a lot easier to run one style of offense and let the two QBs duke it out in TC.
I'd be surprised if the Titans did not move on a QB, latest in the draft. If they get a vet I think Fitzpatrick is gone. If they get a rookie, I guess it depends on which QB the rookie is most like. Would make things a lot easier to run one style of offense and let the two QBs duke it out in TC.
Locker developed a fear of the medium range pass. I've never seen anything like it.
If you go look at play by play it's disturbing.
2 years ago, the Titans led the league in oh my did he really just drop that type drops, no doubt. And that will wreck a QBs development too, but a QB has to come back to throw it again anyway.
The Titans handled his running ability about as well as they did Vince-they stunk at it. I hope I never see another diagonal run to the sideline again. I think part of his confidence comes from running. He has an Elway-esque ability to scramble a smidge, then run straight ahead and gun it. It's awesome! Somehow the Titans dragged this out of him or hits from defenders did. I don't think I've seen him do this in 2013 at all.
Regardless, there's a lot with Locker that you can easily see lacks confidence in his ability and his WRs. They've tried and can't really fix that. A new team could do him some good. It looks like he'll get time with a new staff first though-2014.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Locker's health seems like his biggest challenge.
The designed QB run is not for everyone, limit it to the odd scramble for great effect & protect him for 16 games in the pass game. The goal above all things should be a full season.
And oh yeah bring back the old Oilers unies (not the helmet though).
The designed QB run is not for everyone, limit it to the odd scramble for great effect & protect him for 16 games in the pass game. The goal above all things should be a full season.
And oh yeah bring back the old Oilers unies (not the helmet though).
During his final three seasons as the Arizona Cardinals coach, Ken Whisenhunt couldn't come up with a genuine starting quarterback. He went through the likes of Derek Anderson, John Skelton, Max Hall, Kevin Kolb and Ryan Lindley during that stretch and mustered just 18 wins in 48 games. Whiz said that he learned some important lessons during that three-season stretch.
"The mistake I made when I look back now was changing guys out -- we went through too many -- and what results from switching them out a lot is you see things that are open, and the new guy misses the read or makes the wrong check," he said, per Peter King.
If Whisenhunt intends to avoid switching out his quarterbacks with the Tennessee Titans, that should give Jake Locker some job stability. In other words, Locker shouldn't have to worry about Ryan Fitzpatrick (or a rookie, if the Titans take one in the draft) taking the reins as soon as Locker stumbles.
Locker will be heading into the final year of his rookie deal, so he will have to get healthy, stay healthy and step his game up if he wants to secure a big contract from the Titans or another team in '15. In order for Locker to take that next step, Whisenhunt will demand a lot from him.
"One of the things I’ve learned is the approach of the quarterback has to be almost the gym-rat kind of approach," Whisenhunt noted. "I had that with Philip Rivers [as San Diego's offensive coordinator] this year, through the roof. He can’t get enough of it. Push me, push me, coach me. That’s him. That’s exactly what Russell Wilson is. So passionate. You are not gonna keep him from being successful.”
That interview in the Tennessean wasn't full of much new or much news, but it was fairly long and gives fans a chance to take in some of Whisenhunt's thoughts and theories on things.
It also shows you, already, how some in the press are trying to create news when there isn't and trying to read into things.
To reiterate a bit, he encourages competition at all positions. No one will be handed a job.
In Peter King's interview he was talking about switching up QBs often in the regular season and...how that wasn't the best idea.
I've heard him recently speak of Leinart and Warner from years ago and...we shall see.
I think we're starting to hear the negatives of Jake and the manner in which he wants him to improve. That gym rat point is a considerable deal to some coaches. Jake better start camping out at Titans HQ. Whis gives the impression that he wants a professional QB and he'd like to see one appear as such in TEN. The bad reads and poor throws, not a gym rat, etc can be fixed. I think he wants to present a this is where we are, this is where we need to be view for the fans(and Locker) now.
I've been impressed thus far. Now they have to get him the players he needs.
Locker thread, but Delanie Walker aired dirty laundry last year and he spoke with him told him he doesn't tolerate that wants it discussed within and...supposedly the two had a good chat THEN he told the press. He did same with Locker after only viewing "a few" (supposedly his version of a few means boxes) tapes of his play. I appreciate his deal with the player, then talk to the press manner. I think he's setting a good example already.
If anyone had any Qs, nothing in this man's interviews seems like he would tolerate Kenny Britt for a second. Titans need WRs with so few under contract; this will be important for Jake too of course.
It also shows you, already, how some in the press are trying to create news when there isn't and trying to read into things.
To reiterate a bit, he encourages competition at all positions. No one will be handed a job.
In Peter King's interview he was talking about switching up QBs often in the regular season and...how that wasn't the best idea.
I've heard him recently speak of Leinart and Warner from years ago and...we shall see.
I think we're starting to hear the negatives of Jake and the manner in which he wants him to improve. That gym rat point is a considerable deal to some coaches. Jake better start camping out at Titans HQ. Whis gives the impression that he wants a professional QB and he'd like to see one appear as such in TEN. The bad reads and poor throws, not a gym rat, etc can be fixed. I think he wants to present a this is where we are, this is where we need to be view for the fans(and Locker) now.
I've been impressed thus far. Now they have to get him the players he needs.
Locker thread, but Delanie Walker aired dirty laundry last year and he spoke with him told him he doesn't tolerate that wants it discussed within and...supposedly the two had a good chat THEN he told the press. He did same with Locker after only viewing "a few" (supposedly his version of a few means boxes) tapes of his play. I appreciate his deal with the player, then talk to the press manner. I think he's setting a good example already.
If anyone had any Qs, nothing in this man's interviews seems like he would tolerate Kenny Britt for a second. Titans need WRs with so few under contract; this will be important for Jake too of course.
Unless he's willing to accept a reasonable salary (what QB is) then I highly doubt the Titans sign him now. Whisenhunt said he wanted to see what he could do and get some work in with him and...that's gotta happen before they offer him QB type money.
The article is worded poorly, they can absolutely sign him at a later date as he's under contract for 2014 and they'll even have time early in 2015. There's no reason to rush especially with a QB that has (roughly) one season worth of experience in three years. If you were generous and figured he was just done with his rookie year...maybe there's something to see?
He's gotta get his nose in the playbook, spend time with the new OC reviewing film, get healthy, get practice in...and take a page from Marino's book and learn a quick release to avoid a sack type throwing motion.
cstu
Footballguy
This was never going to happen. It's not "we don't want to keep you around." It is that they don't want to pay him like the top 10 QBs in the league. They can (and plan to) wait and see how he does, then offer him a deal.
As long as Hunter continues to get a lot of love(remember last year veterans and WR coach Jefferson were all over him) I'm hoping it's just horrible Loggains offense for Locker and Whisenhunt's well-crafted offense this year....also the OL holding up their end. He's fast for a big WR, Wright is oh so quick, if they could get a little bit of time....I'm hopeful
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Say Locker stays healthy.
Can Wiz find ways to improve his game? Obviously he can, but will he.
Seems like with the promising thoughts on Hunter and Wright and Sankey people are all assuming Locker will be doing well also.
Can Wiz find ways to improve his game? Obviously he can, but will he.
Seems like with the promising thoughts on Hunter and Wright and Sankey people are all assuming Locker will be doing well also.
For what it's worth, he was looking really good in games before he was injured last year.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Boy I don't know. Locker just might not be very good. He's been in the league a while know and while I love his character and effort, he's just making huge strides.
The great thing about The Hurt Locker (for his dynasty owners) is that 2014 will be a make or break year for him. If he stays healthy and plays like we saw in flashes in 2013 he will be a borderline top 10 QB. If he gets injured again or can't cut it, that's it, he will be journeyman backup material from that point forward. From a dynasty standpoint, he can be had for peanuts but it will be a roster spot investment of no more than one year if he proves to be a bust.
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Their O stunk and will be far better even if it's average. I think it comes down to Locker and if he can be "the man" or not.
He has no time left to learn and be unsure of himself like a rook or young QB. He has to be good now; the team has to believe in him.
I think he has that same quality Elway, Young and a bunch of scrambling QBs had after them in that he needs to move every now and then....he just has to. He's surprisingly good when he uses his feet too. Often times he looked uncomfy, would scramble, then the next few plays in the pocket he looked comfy again. I remember tons of young QBs being told to stay in the pocket and articles as such. It's part of his maturation too.
Hunter is too big and fast and Wright's ridiculous lateral speed make the Titans one of the most difficult teams if a play is broken down and they're ad libbing. Locker's gotta sit in the pocket though and make some hard throws. Throwing 100 four yard passes won't amount to jack.
Whisenhunt will need to do less with mechanics and more with educating him on the finer points of the game. We expect him to play like a fourth year QB and he's only been in one season's worth of games. NFL QBs make far more throws to covered WRs than people admit. Jake has to. Yes, Loggains O always had a WR running three yards deep and across the middle, but Jake always took that easy way out. How about throwing it to a covered Walker where only he can catch it? Fire it to Nate because the vet will get there. Lob it to Hunter because you're sure he'll win a jump ball?
Hunter isn't very experienced and that makes him far from ideal, but he's all the Titans got to lean on as the blind faith type target. Locker's gotta fall in love with passes to Hunter or he'll wind up being a career backup. Everyone else is a complimentary WR(and some very good at that) and not "the man."
We know Green is going to be smothered but Dalton has to throw it anyway. We know Calvin is going to be covered and maybe with as many as three guys, but Matt has to throw it anyway. The Lions and Bengals O frustrate their fans and make them yell at the TV when the QBs don't involve the stud. The Titans O looked like this all last year til Fitz started taking some chances late. Hunter has to be the man and Jake's gotta throw it there.
First day of pads and Locker is rolling out and ran once-foot looks good is a common sentiment from reporters.
Each of the three days seems to have been about the Titans new O going to be sending someone deep often with the guys underneath to use their space.
Hunter, Mariani, and McCluster burned the same CB many many many times. One thing FFers need to do is note a bad CB and take the WRs success with a grain of salt. Titans need to cut him.
There's a lot of quotes where people love Battle as a FB. If they can give him a smidge of carries, he'll attract attention especially in the red zone.
Anywho, here's a post from ESPN about Locker's improvement
http://espn.go.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/8055/locker-carrying-himself-a-bit-differently
Each of the three days seems to have been about the Titans new O going to be sending someone deep often with the guys underneath to use their space.
Hunter, Mariani, and McCluster burned the same CB many many many times. One thing FFers need to do is note a bad CB and take the WRs success with a grain of salt. Titans need to cut him.
There's a lot of quotes where people love Battle as a FB. If they can give him a smidge of carries, he'll attract attention especially in the red zone.
Anywho, here's a post from ESPN about Locker's improvement
http://espn.go.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/8055/locker-carrying-himself-a-bit-differently
Yes Campbell and at this point he needs to be cut. Check out Paul Kuharsky and every single day they're oWning him.
As for Locker, maybe update this thread a bit at least with a tone- Whisenhunt is pushing Locker now and he's struggling and throwing INTs. Whitehurst and Metta-rookieQB are throwing INTs also so I'm reading giving some mulligans to a new offense, but after 8-9 days I don't want to read Locker is throwing INTs anymore.
I imagine Whisenhunt and his OC and QB coach are expectant of this and discuss this with Locker. I imagine this is part of the learning under a new, far better head coach.
I'm anxious to see the end result, see him overcome.
As for Locker, maybe update this thread a bit at least with a tone- Whisenhunt is pushing Locker now and he's struggling and throwing INTs. Whitehurst and Metta-rookieQB are throwing INTs also so I'm reading giving some mulligans to a new offense, but after 8-9 days I don't want to read Locker is throwing INTs anymore.
I imagine Whisenhunt and his OC and QB coach are expectant of this and discuss this with Locker. I imagine this is part of the learning under a new, far better head coach.
I'm anxious to see the end result, see him overcome.
