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I'm saying that your oppinion may not be from an objective vantage point and that my oppinion isn't based on your assumption that I haven't seen him play.
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Jermichael Finley, TE, Green Bay Packers (1 Viewer)
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Personally, I think he was basing it on confirmation bias. Finley's good. Potentially great. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the #1 TE this year. I would be shocked if he scored more points than Antonio Gates or Tony Gonzalez or Shannon Sharpe ever scored in their entire careers... and 48 receiving yards in a preseason game isn't going to convince me otherwise.
Green Bay Packers TE Jermichael Finley had four catches for 48 yards, including a 12-yard touchdown reception, reports The Associated Press. 'He's tough to guard. He's a great player. He's going to be a big part of our offense. Anytime I get the ball, I'll look for him,' QB Aaron Rodgers said following the game.
Rodgers gets the ball a lot, too.
Rodgers gets the ball a lot, too.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
One negative fantasy thing I think you might see often, like in the Seattle game, is Finley going in motion inside the 10 strictly as a decoy, TD pass goes to the other side.
That's about the worst thing I can say about him though.
That's about the worst thing I can say about him though.
CaptainHook
Footballguy
if i dont get finley this year im going to be devastated
the turnip
Footballguy
In a dynasty league I was offered Mercedes Lewis and Jabbar Gaffney stright up for Mr. Finley. Why do people even make offers like this? I asked the offerer that question and he said "You already have Heath Miller too".
*sigh*
*sigh*
smackdaddies
Footballguy
I said my prediction was 85, not 100. 72 on the low, 100 on the high. 85 is a reasonable assessment, based on how he finished last year and has looked all preseason.
oukurt
Footballguy
I would have been too. Landed him with 4.10 last night.
oukurt
Footballguy
I love these guys. Please give me Finley for some of my floating exrement. Why? Because you have a quality #2 TE! DUH
Decent call here I think. HUGE ADP spike upcoming.
leave a whisper
Footballguy
got him as the 5th TE off the board 2 weeks ago at 6.03 (53rd overall) in a 10 team league (my "main league")....
.... i draft for another 10 team league this sunday, i bet he goes top of the 4th round now - & at that price not sure i'll get him.
.... i draft for another 10 team league this sunday, i bet he goes top of the 4th round now - & at that price not sure i'll get him.
ThePhillyPhanatic
Footballguy
This is getting a bit ridiculous. I understand the hype around Finley but he's no lock to be the number one TE. To me, Gates and Vernon Davis have just as much potential to have great production this year. Davis is a player, who when he was drafted, scouts said he's a once in a decade TE prospect. He broke out and now everyone's talking as if that's his absolute peak. Well, then again, actually, no one's talking about him. And with no Jackson, the co-most reliable TE in the past five years is going to get plenty of looks in SD. A good number of you act like Finley will have 110 catches, 1500 receiving yards, and 20 TDs with the way you talk about him. Be reasonable.
Although I already have Finley in my "favorite" league, you're making me feel guilty for taking Davis over him in my second one. That shouldn't be...
Although I already have Finley in my "favorite" league, you're making me feel guilty for taking Davis over him in my second one. That shouldn't be...
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nysportsfan
Footballguy
Losing value quickly. Love the guy but still has something to prove at his draft spot.
nlgb1
Footballguy
wait... losing value?
Oh he's comin for you week one, buddy. You, Mikkel, and Macho. Be afraid.This is getting a bit ridiculous. I understand the hype around Finley but he's no lock to be the number one TE. To me, Gates and Vernon Davis have just as much potential to have great production this year. Davis is a player, who when he was drafted, scouts said he's a once in a decade TE prospect. He broke out and now everyone's talking as if that's his absolute peak. Well, then again, actually, no one's talking about him. And with no Jackson, the co-most reliable TE in the past five years is going to get plenty of looks in SD. A good number of you act like Finley will have 110 catches, 1500 receiving yards, and 20 TDs with the way you talk about him. Be reasonable.Although I already have Finley in my "favorite" league, you're making me feel guilty for taking Davis over him in my second one. That shouldn't be...
smackdaddies
Footballguy
Well sure he is losing value - didn't you seem him suck all night against Indi, right? I mean he only caught 6 passes, 1 td, with Jennings out so coverage rotated to him all night. I can't see JFin any better than a back up on my fantasy teamwait... losing value?
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Yep. Guy is the same likely monster he was before the preseason. Cementing his "studly" status does nothing but hurt his draft value. The better he does the higher hes drafted and the less valuable pick he becomes.wait... losing value?
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Breathe. Its draft value I am talking about, not his ability.Well sure he is losing value - didn't you seem him suck all night against Indi, right? I mean he only caught 6 passes, 1 td, with Jennings out so coverage rotated to him all night. I can't see JFin any better than a back up on my fantasy teamwait... losing value?
ThePhillyPhanatic
Footballguy
Not afraid. That's likely. Finley will probably put up 150 yards and 2 TDs the first week. The Eagles have always been unable to cover TEs.Oh he's comin for you week one, buddy. You, Mikkel, and Macho. Be afraid.This is getting a bit ridiculous. I understand the hype around Finley but he's no lock to be the number one TE. To me, Gates and Vernon Davis have just as much potential to have great production this year. Davis is a player, who when he was drafted, scouts said he's a once in a decade TE prospect. He broke out and now everyone's talking as if that's his absolute peak. Well, then again, actually, no one's talking about him. And with no Jackson, the co-most reliable TE in the past five years is going to get plenty of looks in SD. A good number of you act like Finley will have 110 catches, 1500 receiving yards, and 20 TDs with the way you talk about him. Be reasonable.Although I already have Finley in my "favorite" league, you're making me feel guilty for taking Davis over him in my second one. That shouldn't be...
RalphMouth
Footballguy
what's the highest slot you would draft Finley ?
is early 3rd round too soon ?
is early 3rd round too soon ?
CaptainHook
Footballguy
dammit i didnt draft yet and i think he just moved up an entire roundI would have been too. Landed him with 4.10 last night.
CaptainHook
Footballguy
YES theres no way you should draft him befoer late 4
Tyrion
Footballguy
I wouldn't draft him before round 1 but after that all bets are off.Actually I could not justify doing it before round 4.
joefootball
Footballguy
He is a very talented TE. We happen to see this big game while there are no other games going on so inevitably it will garner more attention. All the stud TE's will have big games like this we just happen to see one tonight. I think you have him in the top 3 and doesnt change anything anyone didnt know already, he will have a very good year but so will other TE's.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
If you think he is the safest pick and most likely not to bust in the 3rd round then take him. You never know when someone else will feel the same. In the end its really NOT all about VBD, its about have the least amount of picks bust or get injured. Then filling your roster with great Free Agent pickups.
We Tigers
Footballguy
80 rec/1000 yds/10 TD would be phenomenal, and the way he played last year and in the preseason, reachable. Although I agree with SSOG's thoughts on Finley here and elsewhere, I should note that people's overloaded expectations for Finley aren't too damaging, except maybe to their own states of well being the first week he puts up a pedestrian 4/45/0. Few people will be actually shaping their draft around whether Finley puts up 1000, 1200, or 1500 yards; 1000 would be tremendous and anything beyond that is gravy.
Like I said in the other thread, let's not get too excited about a preseason half in which the #1 receiver for the Packers didn't play a snap. Validation of his abilities? Sure. Prophecy of the greatest thing since sliced Tebow? Not really.
Like I said in the other thread, let's not get too excited about a preseason half in which the #1 receiver for the Packers didn't play a snap. Validation of his abilities? Sure. Prophecy of the greatest thing since sliced Tebow? Not really.
purestrength
Footballguy
I think 2010 will end up being known as "The Year of the Tight End" with Clark, Gates, Finley and Witten all posting huge numbers (better than a lot of WR1s).
This also will make the new FPC leagues fun to monitor.
This also will make the new FPC leagues fun to monitor.
nlgb1
Footballguy
(Rotoworld) Packers coach Mike McCarthy has essentially guaranteed that Jermichael Finley will be a Pro Bowler this year as long as he avoids major injury. Analysis: "If he stays healthy ... 16 games, I'm sure you'll be sending him to Hawaii," McCarthy stated.
the hits just keep comin
the hits just keep comin
werdnoynek
Footballguy
mccarthy is on the train too!!! omgomgomg!!! 
Maybe Ocho (never trust him). None of the others. I would seriously consider taking him over the next tier of guys...Bowe, Crabtree, Nicks, etc.
In our league the top 3 TE's were Clark, Davis, then Gates. Listed below are the WR who ranked above Gates. The names in bold were also above Clark and Davis (whom were consecutive). I'm assuming this will put things into perspective for you since I would imagine Finley puts up Gates' numbers this year.
Johnson
Austin
Moss
Jackson, DeSean
Wayne
Fitzgerald
Welker
White
Marshall
Smith, Steve (NYG)
Rice
bill bates hits hard
Footballguy
so calvin didnt make the cut?
nlgb1
Footballguy
quick blurb from espn nfc north blog...
"Last week, our friends over at ESPNMilwaukee.com asked Rodgers who he would chose first in a fantasy football draft: Peyton Manning, Drew Brees or himself. Rodgers' answer (via sportsradiointerviews.com): "Jermichael Finley." "
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id...ael-finley-will
"Last week, our friends over at ESPNMilwaukee.com asked Rodgers who he would chose first in a fantasy football draft: Peyton Manning, Drew Brees or himself. Rodgers' answer (via sportsradiointerviews.com): "Jermichael Finley." "
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id...ael-finley-will
I know it doesnt mean much, but the fact that Finley was the first guy to pop in his head(not Jennings, Grant, Driver, etc,) has to mean something.....right?
LawFitz
Footballguy
It's no secret that Finley is Rodgers #1 option on most plays. People around here have turned it into a big joke lately, but this guy is primed for an epic TE season if he and Rodgers stay upright. The last laugh will hopefully be had by Finley owners (I am clearly one).
Tyrion
Footballguy
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The Packers gameplans from week to week are very much a secret, and to say the TE is Rodgers "#1 option on most plays" is ridiculous.
I dont think it is a big secret that the Packers will throw alot, and that Finley will play a large part in that.
Dazed and Confused
Footballguy
I took Finley at 3:11 in a 12 team ppr over Gates and Clark. I bought the hype. I hope he breaks every TE record known to man this year.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Numerous stories and quotes from the team say it's not ridiculous. I'll let you go ahead and find them. They're all over this board if you use the search function.
Right, and Bruce Arians said that he thinks Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, and Heath Miller will all get 100 receptions this year, so clearly that's not a ridiculous claim, either.I will be very surprised if Jermichael Finley is the #1 read on more than 50% of the Packers' passing plays.Numerous stories and quotes from the team say it's not ridiculous. I'll let you go ahead and find them. They're all over this board if you use the search function.
Maroney=Speed
Footballguy
Good call.
Creed Bratton
Footballguy
Really?So, who else is going to tear their lateral meniscus this season?Good call.
Maroney=Speed
Footballguy
So who are you going after on the ww?Really?So, who else is going to tear their lateral meniscus this season?Good call.
Creed Bratton
Footballguy
Finley wasn't on my roster, so I'm not going after anybody. I find it sad that I even had to say that as it seems you think anybody who questions the reasoning behind your posts or may disagree with you is only doing so out of some presumed psychological need to make themselves feel better about their roster decisions.So who are you going after on the ww?Really?So, who else is going to tear their lateral meniscus this season?Good call.
he was prob #1 read on 70%. he'll be targeted even more when james jones leaves.Right, and Bruce Arians said that he thinks Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, and Heath Miller will all get 100 receptions this year, so clearly that's not a ridiculous claim, either.I will be very surprised if Jermichael Finley is the #1 read on more than 50% of the Packers' passing plays.Numerous stories and quotes from the team say it's not ridiculous. I'll let you go ahead and find them. They're all over this board if you use the search function.
heidbrink
Footballguy
here we go again...Hjelle9 said:he was prob #1 read on 70%. he'll be targeted even more when james jones leaves.Right, and Bruce Arians said that he thinks Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, and Heath Miller will all get 100 receptions this year, so clearly that's not a ridiculous claim, either.I will be very surprised if Jermichael Finley is the #1 read on more than 50% of the Packers' passing plays.Numerous stories and quotes from the team say it's not ridiculous. I'll let you go ahead and find them. They're all over this board if you use the search function.
Can't say what percent of the time he would be the #1 read, but not sure that matters as much. Finley appeared to be the #2 read on the vast majority of plays before the injury. He has that Gates-like freakishness to be at least semi-open on practically any play. Whether this is because of skill or sheer physical size, the fact remains that when Rodgers couldn't find his primary target, he just threw to Finley. By the third game of the season, it looked almost automatic: "Whoops, Jennings is in double coverage, let me toss it to the TE". Maybe that changes this season, but I doubt it - I think Finley averages 5+ receptions per game if he stays healthy.
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