Josh Gordon facing 1 year suspension? (1 Viewer)

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Gordon obviously didnt successfully complete Stage 1, as he was placed immediately by the NFL into stage 2.

So he was fined AND suspended for his first NFL offense.

As I understand it we wouldn't hear about a guy's first failure (to get into Stage One). No one reports on those because they're private. Only the ones that result in a suspension make it to the public. So there's no reason to think he started in Stage Two.

Or am I missing something?

 

[Coach3K]

Heard on ESPN radio at lunch that the lower limit for a positive test for the NFL is 15 "units per sample" (it was something phrased way more eloquently than that). The lower limit for air traffic controllers is 75 "units per sample", and the lower limit for Olympic athletes is 150 "units per sample" (10x as high - pardon the pun).

Just such a stupid policy. Hey, go nuts with the HGH and wife beating, but don't you dare smoke a doober!

I don't know but Stedman Bailey just got 4 games for performance enhancing drugs. If I was a team owner I would much rather see my guys being suspended for performance enhancing drugs, at least they are trying to improve themselves. All smoking weed does is zap your motivation. and makes you lazy.

If Josh Gordon was lazy and unmotivated last year, I'd sure love to see him driven and motivated. Jerry Rice who?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Also, note that the fine + suspension bit is always true -- suspensions happen without pay.

So Gordon's fine was simply a part of his suspension. And when the NFL rescinded two games of his four game ban they simply didn't rescind the loss of paychecks.

 

[Soulfly3]

Holy ####, I may have just cracked the code as to where Gordon is in the suspension ladder.

Discipline.
(1) Discipline for First Failure to Comply in Stage Two: A
player in Stage Two who fails to comply with his
Treatment Plan or fails to cooperate with testing, treatment,
evaluation or other requirements imposed on him by this
Policy, both as determined by the Medical Director, or has
a Positive Test will be subject to:
(a) A fine of four-seventeenths (4/17) of the amount in
Paragraph 5 of the NFL Player Contract if the
player has successfully completed Stage One; and
(b) A suspension for the period of time to cover four
consecutive regular season and post-season
(including Pro Bowl, if selected) games without pay
if he did not successfully complete Stage One.

------> Ok, yes... we KNOW Gordon received a 4 game suspension, that was reduced to two. Fact, right? Im sure noone will argue this.

Now..............

Discipline for Second Failure to Comply in Stage Two:
A player who has two Positive Tests in Stage Two; or fails
twice, as determined by the Medical Director, to comply
with his Treatment Plan in Stage Two; or has a Positive
Test and fails to comply with his Treatment Plan, as
determined by the Medical Director; or fails to cooperate
with testing, treatment, evaluation or other requirements
imposed on him by this Policy, as determined by the
Medical Director, will incur:
(a) A suspension for the period of time to cover four
consecutive regular and post season games
(including the Pro Bowl, if selected) without pay if
the player was fined pursuant to Section E.2.b.(1)(a)
above; and
(b) A suspension for the period of time to cover six
consecutive regular and post season games
(including the Pro Bowl, if selected) without pay if
the player was suspended pursuant to Section
E.2.b.(1)(b) above.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gordon was CLEARLY suspended pursuant to Sec E.2.b(1)(b), as he was given a 4 game suspension (that was reduced to 2)

Gordon would now be in line for a SIX GAME SUSPENSION, as a result of a second failure.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I can't wait until they actually announce what the suspencion is.

 

[Soulfly3]

I can't wait until they actually announce what the suspencion is.

at least Im using NFL literature instead of just pissing all over the guy or stating he's 110% in for a year long suspension.

If it's a year, it's a year.

 

[grateful zed]

the guy sells tickets and with manzel in town the whole world will be watching. methinks he gets a slap on the wrist.

the nfl isnt about justice, its about

 

[Soulfly3]

the guy sells tickets and with manzel in town the whole world will be watching. methinks he gets a slap on the wrist.

the nfl isnt about justice, its about

While I think this HAS to be in the back of Goodell's mind, I dont know how much an effect it'll have

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

Goodell has to go by the book whether Gordon sells tickets or not or he sets a bad precedent for past and future suspensions.

 

[Adam Harstad]

Besides, Johnny Manziel or not, how much of a draw are the Cleveland Browns? They join Buffalo, Jacksonville, Minnesota, Oakland, and Tampa Bay as the only teams in the league that didn't get more than the minimum mandated one prime-time appearance this year. It's not like JFF alone is going to turn them into the new Dallas Cowboys, here.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Forget the "rules are rules" bull#### for a second...

The NFL is potentially going to allow Ray Rice and Greg Hardy back to playing this season before Josh Gordon.

A man who beat the living #### out of his gf on camera... dragged her like a caveman - and another who slapped his silly, and threatened to kill her as she was surrounded by his guns.

before a guy who likes to smoke a joint in his off-time.

Yep, the NFL is legit.

Yes, yes, and more yes.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

I can't wait until they actually announce what the suspencion is.

No kidding. I own Gordon in one league and am interested in how this shakes out, but these Gordon threads are getting tough to wade through.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Rotoworld:

ESPN's Dan Graziano reports the NFL is expected to revamp its marijuana policy in the league's new drug agreement, instituting a higher threshold for positive tests and lessening the penalties.

It's unclear how much the penalties will be lessened, but at the very least, it means players will no longer be subject to a four-game ban for a first-time offense. Per Graziano, only haggling over the arbitration process is delaying the new drug agreement. The move comes too late for Josh Gordon, but it appears marijuana will no longer be treated as a more serious offense than issues like drunk driving and assault.

Source: ESPN.com

No way he's gone for the year.

why

 

[TxBuckeye]

I can't wait until they actually announce what the suspencion is.

Suspension. Suspension. Suspension. Type it with me. S-u-s-p-e-n-s-i-o-n.

 

[Andrew74]

I can't wait until they actually announce what the suspencion is.

Suspension. Suspension. Suspension. Type it with me. S-u-s-p-e-n-s-i-o-n.

If you read it with a Spanish accent, it sounds cool.

 

[grateful zed]

Besides, Johnny Manziel or not, how much of a draw are the Cleveland Browns?

i would watch.

 

[donkshow]

If they are appealing the suspension, when the NFL makes their announcement publicly will that be the final decision? Or will they announce a suspension, then Gordon's camp appeals, NFL looks again, then new announcement?

This process is going to take forever if the above is true.

 

[Shutout]

Someone is upset they are going to lose a major fantasy player.

Facts: Weed is safer then most things we legally put into our body and effect us less. Gordon knows the rules and still smoked. Gordon should be suspended for breaking a league rule. The rule does need to be changed.

The punishment for smoking weed should be to bring enough for everyone not getting suspended from your job that you obviously do better high then most dudes who are not. Weed being illegal in the first place shows the ignorance of our nation.

I'm probably one of the few that are on the opposite side of the fence on the "the rule is dumb, needs to be changed" side.

Is it harsh relative to the perceived use? Yes.

But is it a rule that, if broken, carries a consequence? Yes.

The NFL is a public image league and, regardless of what our common sense tells us, smoking pot is a big deal with young kids. So maybe they are image conscious. I don't know, Maybe that has nothing to do with it.

But, what I do have a strong hunch on is that BECAUSE it is perceived as being such a non-big deal, that if the policy was weakened and wasn't as strong a deterrent as it is, then we would start seeing a lot of guys getting popped for it because, as people have said, no one thinks its affects them negatively and some think it helps with pain, etc. So, if all of a sudden this became a 75,00 fine offense or a 1 game suspension everytime you got popped with no escalators, I think you'd have a lot of instances of guys getting dinged.

That's why I support it as it is. It IS strict but it is strict enough to deter people and that, to me, is the best effect of the policy. Don't do drugs...make a lot of money playing sports. It's not too much to ask a guy to do for a decade, considering the payoff.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Someone is upset they are going to lose a major fantasy player.

Facts: Weed is safer then most things we legally put into our body and effect us less. Gordon knows the rules and still smoked. Gordon should be suspended for breaking a league rule. The rule does need to be changed.

The punishment for smoking weed should be to bring enough for everyone not getting suspended from your job that you obviously do better high then most dudes who are not. Weed being illegal in the first place shows the ignorance of our nation.

I'm probably one of the few that are on the opposite side of the fence on the "the rule is dumb, needs to be changed" side. Is it harsh relative to the perceived use? Yes.

But is it a rule that, if broken, carries a consequence? Yes.

The NFL is a public image league and, regardless of what our common sense tells us, smoking pot is a big deal with young kids. So maybe they are image conscious. I don't know, Maybe that has nothing to do with it.

But, what I do have a strong hunch on is that BECAUSE it is perceived as being such a non-big deal, that if the policy was weakened and wasn't as strong a deterrent as it is, then we would start seeing a lot of guys getting popped for it because, as people have said, no one thinks its affects them negatively and some think it helps with pain, etc. So, if all of a sudden this became a 75,00 fine offense or a 1 game suspension everytime you got popped with no escalators, I think you'd have a lot of instances of guys getting dinged.

That's why I support it as it is. It IS strict but it is strict enough to deter people and that, to me, is the best effect of the policy. Don't do drugs...make a lot of money playing sports. It's not too much to ask a guy to do for a decade, considering the payoff.

Joe Blow who works at Acme Law Firm gets suspended or fined for a positive drug test and we don't hear about it and nobody cares. But Josh Gordon does it (supposedly) and everybody hears and trashes the dude. Something is not right with the constant invasion of privacy here. We know every medical detail, personal problem, or failed drug test of these athletes. I don't agree with that.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Someone is upset they are going to lose a major fantasy player.

Facts: Weed is safer then most things we legally put into our body and effect us less. Gordon knows the rules and still smoked. Gordon should be suspended for breaking a league rule. The rule does need to be changed.

The punishment for smoking weed should be to bring enough for everyone not getting suspended from your job that you obviously do better high then most dudes who are not. Weed being illegal in the first place shows the ignorance of our nation.

I'm probably one of the few that are on the opposite side of the fence on the "the rule is dumb, needs to be changed" side. Is it harsh relative to the perceived use? Yes.

But is it a rule that, if broken, carries a consequence? Yes.

The NFL is a public image league and, regardless of what our common sense tells us, smoking pot is a big deal with young kids. So maybe they are image conscious. I don't know, Maybe that has nothing to do with it.

But, what I do have a strong hunch on is that BECAUSE it is perceived as being such a non-big deal, that if the policy was weakened and wasn't as strong a deterrent as it is, then we would start seeing a lot of guys getting popped for it because, as people have said, no one thinks its affects them negatively and some think it helps with pain, etc. So, if all of a sudden this became a 75,00 fine offense or a 1 game suspension everytime you got popped with no escalators, I think you'd have a lot of instances of guys getting dinged.

That's why I support it as it is. It IS strict but it is strict enough to deter people and that, to me, is the best effect of the policy. Don't do drugs...make a lot of money playing sports. It's not too much to ask a guy to do for a decade, considering the payoff.

Joe Blow who works at Acme Law Firm gets suspended or fined for a positive drug test and we don't hear about it and nobody cares. But Josh Gordon does it (supposedly) and everybody hears and trashes the dude. Something is not right with the constant invasion of privacy here. We know every medical detail, personal problem, or failed drug test of these athletes. I don't agree with that.

Well, if we didn't follow sports we wouldn't hear about it. How would it be possible for us to not know the extent of a player's injury or if he failed a drug test and was suspended? Wouldn't we demand our beat reporters to ask why Stud WR X wasn't playing this Sunday?

The fact is Joe Blow who works at Acme Law firm would actually get fired, not suspended for a positive drug test and no one would be up in arms about it or care, but on the flipside Josh Gordon gets (potentially) suspended and people who follow his team or have him on their fantasy team act like a crime against humanity was committed because he may face a suspension from breaking his company policy.

If I was out to lunch and had a beer and my company found out about it I would be fired. If I failed a drug test, I never would have beed hired in the first place.

While I agree with those that say smoking a little weed, shouldn't be a big deal - it doesn't change the fact that Josh Gordon knew that he shouldn't be doing so, and did.

 

[Adam Harstad]

Besides, Johnny Manziel or not, how much of a draw are the Cleveland Browns?

i would watch.

People posting on a fantasy football message board in May are probably not a representative sample. At this point, I'd pay $20 to watch a scrimmage between the Texans' and Jaguars' practice squads.

 

[socrates]

Someone is upset they are going to lose a major fantasy player.

Facts: Weed is safer then most things we legally put into our body and effect us less. Gordon knows the rules and still smoked. Gordon should be suspended for breaking a league rule. The rule does need to be changed.

The punishment for smoking weed should be to bring enough for everyone not getting suspended from your job that you obviously do better high then most dudes who are not. Weed being illegal in the first place shows the ignorance of our nation.

I'm probably one of the few that are on the opposite side of the fence on the "the rule is dumb, needs to be changed" side. Is it harsh relative to the perceived use? Yes.

But is it a rule that, if broken, carries a consequence? Yes.

The NFL is a public image league and, regardless of what our common sense tells us, smoking pot is a big deal with young kids. So maybe they are image conscious. I don't know, Maybe that has nothing to do with it.

But, what I do have a strong hunch on is that BECAUSE it is perceived as being such a non-big deal, that if the policy was weakened and wasn't as strong a deterrent as it is, then we would start seeing a lot of guys getting popped for it because, as people have said, no one thinks its affects them negatively and some think it helps with pain, etc. So, if all of a sudden this became a 75,00 fine offense or a 1 game suspension everytime you got popped with no escalators, I think you'd have a lot of instances of guys getting dinged.

That's why I support it as it is. It IS strict but it is strict enough to deter people and that, to me, is the best effect of the policy. Don't do drugs...make a lot of money playing sports. It's not too much to ask a guy to do for a decade, considering the payoff.

Joe Blow who works at Acme Law Firm gets suspended or fined for a positive drug test and we don't hear about it and nobody cares. But Josh Gordon does it (supposedly) and everybody hears and trashes the dude. Something is not right with the constant invasion of privacy here. We know every medical detail, personal problem, or failed drug test of these athletes. I don't agree with that.

Well, if we didn't follow sports we wouldn't hear about it. How would it be possible for us to not know the extent of a player's injury or if he failed a drug test and was suspended? Wouldn't we demand our beat reporters to ask why Stud WR X wasn't playing this Sunday?

The fact is Joe Blow who works at Acme Law firm would actually get fired, not suspended for a positive drug test and no one would be up in arms about it or care, but on the flipside Josh Gordon gets (potentially) suspended and people who follow his team or have him on their fantasy team act like a crime against humanity was committed because he may face a suspension from breaking his company policy.

If I was out to lunch and had a beer and my company found out about it I would be fired. If I failed a drug test, I never would have beed hired in the first place.

While I agree with those that say smoking a little weed, shouldn't be a big deal - it doesn't change the fact that Josh Gordon knew that he shouldn't be doing so, and did.

Excellent post, but since when has this become the popular sentiment? PErhaps I am just out of touch, but I personally agree with the League's position against the usage of marijuana. These are professional athletes being paid millions for the privilege of playing in the NFL. Josh Gordon knew and understood the rule and the consequence. He has been down this path before. Just last year, Gordon discussed this very topic when he faced a suspension for a failed drug test.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/09/cleveland_browns_josh_gordon_n.html

 

[donkshow]

Someone is upset they are going to lose a major fantasy player.

Facts: Weed is safer then most things we legally put into our body and effect us less. Gordon knows the rules and still smoked. Gordon should be suspended for breaking a league rule. The rule does need to be changed.

The punishment for smoking weed should be to bring enough for everyone not getting suspended from your job that you obviously do better high then most dudes who are not. Weed being illegal in the first place shows the ignorance of our nation.

I'm probably one of the few that are on the opposite side of the fence on the "the rule is dumb, needs to be changed" side. Is it harsh relative to the perceived use? Yes.

But is it a rule that, if broken, carries a consequence? Yes.

The NFL is a public image league and, regardless of what our common sense tells us, smoking pot is a big deal with young kids. So maybe they are image conscious. I don't know, Maybe that has nothing to do with it.

But, what I do have a strong hunch on is that BECAUSE it is perceived as being such a non-big deal, that if the policy was weakened and wasn't as strong a deterrent as it is, then we would start seeing a lot of guys getting popped for it because, as people have said, no one thinks its affects them negatively and some think it helps with pain, etc. So, if all of a sudden this became a 75,00 fine offense or a 1 game suspension everytime you got popped with no escalators, I think you'd have a lot of instances of guys getting dinged.

That's why I support it as it is. It IS strict but it is strict enough to deter people and that, to me, is the best effect of the policy. Don't do drugs...make a lot of money playing sports. It's not too much to ask a guy to do for a decade, considering the payoff.

Joe Blow who works at Acme Law Firm gets suspended or fined for a positive drug test and we don't hear about it and nobody cares. But Josh Gordon does it (supposedly) and everybody hears and trashes the dude. Something is not right with the constant invasion of privacy here. We know every medical detail, personal problem, or failed drug test of these athletes. I don't agree with that.

Well, if we didn't follow sports we wouldn't hear about it. How would it be possible for us to not know the extent of a player's injury or if he failed a drug test and was suspended? Wouldn't we demand our beat reporters to ask why Stud WR X wasn't playing this Sunday?

The fact is Joe Blow who works at Acme Law firm would actually get fired, not suspended for a positive drug test and no one would be up in arms about it or care, but on the flipside Josh Gordon gets (potentially) suspended and people who follow his team or have him on their fantasy team act like a crime against humanity was committed because he may face a suspension from breaking his company policy.

If I was out to lunch and had a beer and my company found out about it I would be fired. If I failed a drug test, I never would have beed hired in the first place.

While I agree with those that say smoking a little weed, shouldn't be a big deal - it doesn't change the fact that Josh Gordon knew that he shouldn't be doing so, and did.

Excellent post, but since when has this become the popular sentiment? PErhaps I am just out of touch, but I personally agree with the League's position against the usage of marijuana. These are professional athletes being paid millions for the privilege of playing in the NFL. Josh Gordon knew and understood the rule and the consequence. He has been down this path before. Just last year, Gordon discussed this very topic when he faced a suspension for a failed drug test.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/09/cleveland_browns_josh_gordon_n.html

Unfortunate that in that article he seems to realize he has 1 more chance, and he still did this.

 

[Warhogs]

Someone is upset they are going to lose a major fantasy player.

Facts: Weed is safer then most things we legally put into our body and effect us less. Gordon knows the rules and still smoked. Gordon should be suspended for breaking a league rule. The rule does need to be changed.

The punishment for smoking weed should be to bring enough for everyone not getting suspended from your job that you obviously do better high then most dudes who are not. Weed being illegal in the first place shows the ignorance of our nation.

I'm probably one of the few that are on the opposite side of the fence on the "the rule is dumb, needs to be changed" side. Is it harsh relative to the perceived use? Yes.

But is it a rule that, if broken, carries a consequence? Yes.

The NFL is a public image league and, regardless of what our common sense tells us, smoking pot is a big deal with young kids. So maybe they are image conscious. I don't know, Maybe that has nothing to do with it.

But, what I do have a strong hunch on is that BECAUSE it is perceived as being such a non-big deal, that if the policy was weakened and wasn't as strong a deterrent as it is, then we would start seeing a lot of guys getting popped for it because, as people have said, no one thinks its affects them negatively and some think it helps with pain, etc. So, if all of a sudden this became a 75,00 fine offense or a 1 game suspension everytime you got popped with no escalators, I think you'd have a lot of instances of guys getting dinged.

That's why I support it as it is. It IS strict but it is strict enough to deter people and that, to me, is the best effect of the policy. Don't do drugs...make a lot of money playing sports. It's not too much to ask a guy to do for a decade, considering the payoff.

Joe Blow who works at Acme Law Firm gets suspended or fined for a positive drug test and we don't hear about it and nobody cares. But Josh Gordon does it (supposedly) and everybody hears and trashes the dude. Something is not right with the constant invasion of privacy here. We know every medical detail, personal problem, or failed drug test of these athletes. I don't agree with that.

Where I work there is no fine or suspension. A positive drug test is automatic dismissal so I'm not going to feel bad that an athlete making millions of dollars has the public know of a failed drug test. Obviously because he is a public figure there has to be an answer to why player X isn't playing in 2014. Giving up your private life during your career may be tough but it's really not that much to ask for the kind of money these guys get.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Someone is upset they are going to lose a major fantasy player.

Facts: Weed is safer then most things we legally put into our body and effect us less. Gordon knows the rules and still smoked. Gordon should be suspended for breaking a league rule. The rule does need to be changed.

The punishment for smoking weed should be to bring enough for everyone not getting suspended from your job that you obviously do better high then most dudes who are not. Weed being illegal in the first place shows the ignorance of our nation.

I'm probably one of the few that are on the opposite side of the fence on the "the rule is dumb, needs to be changed" side. Is it harsh relative to the perceived use? Yes.

But is it a rule that, if broken, carries a consequence? Yes.

The NFL is a public image league and, regardless of what our common sense tells us, smoking pot is a big deal with young kids. So maybe they are image conscious. I don't know, Maybe that has nothing to do with it.

But, what I do have a strong hunch on is that BECAUSE it is perceived as being such a non-big deal, that if the policy was weakened and wasn't as strong a deterrent as it is, then we would start seeing a lot of guys getting popped for it because, as people have said, no one thinks its affects them negatively and some think it helps with pain, etc. So, if all of a sudden this became a 75,00 fine offense or a 1 game suspension everytime you got popped with no escalators, I think you'd have a lot of instances of guys getting dinged.

That's why I support it as it is. It IS strict but it is strict enough to deter people and that, to me, is the best effect of the policy. Don't do drugs...make a lot of money playing sports. It's not too much to ask a guy to do for a decade, considering the payoff.

Joe Blow who works at Acme Law Firm gets suspended or fined for a positive drug test and we don't hear about it and nobody cares. But Josh Gordon does it (supposedly) and everybody hears and trashes the dude. Something is not right with the constant invasion of privacy here. We know every medical detail, personal problem, or failed drug test of these athletes. I don't agree with that.

Another small price to pay for the millions they make. Also if they follow the rules they would not have negative publicity.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Someone is upset they are going to lose a major fantasy player.

Facts: Weed is safer then most things we legally put into our body and effect us less. Gordon knows the rules and still smoked. Gordon should be suspended for breaking a league rule. The rule does need to be changed.

The punishment for smoking weed should be to bring enough for everyone not getting suspended from your job that you obviously do better high then most dudes who are not. Weed being illegal in the first place shows the ignorance of our nation.

I'm probably one of the few that are on the opposite side of the fence on the "the rule is dumb, needs to be changed" side. Is it harsh relative to the perceived use? Yes.

But is it a rule that, if broken, carries a consequence? Yes.

The NFL is a public image league and, regardless of what our common sense tells us, smoking pot is a big deal with young kids. So maybe they are image conscious. I don't know, Maybe that has nothing to do with it.

But, what I do have a strong hunch on is that BECAUSE it is perceived as being such a non-big deal, that if the policy was weakened and wasn't as strong a deterrent as it is, then we would start seeing a lot of guys getting popped for it because, as people have said, no one thinks its affects them negatively and some think it helps with pain, etc. So, if all of a sudden this became a 75,00 fine offense or a 1 game suspension everytime you got popped with no escalators, I think you'd have a lot of instances of guys getting dinged.

That's why I support it as it is. It IS strict but it is strict enough to deter people and that, to me, is the best effect of the policy. Don't do drugs...make a lot of money playing sports. It's not too much to ask a guy to do for a decade, considering the payoff.

Joe Blow who works at Acme Law Firm gets suspended or fined for a positive drug test and we don't hear about it and nobody cares. But Josh Gordon does it (supposedly) and everybody hears and trashes the dude. Something is not right with the constant invasion of privacy here. We know every medical detail, personal problem, or failed drug test of these athletes. I don't agree with that.

Well, if we didn't follow sports we wouldn't hear about it. How would it be possible for us to not know the extent of a player's injury or if he failed a drug test and was suspended? Wouldn't we demand our beat reporters to ask why Stud WR X wasn't playing this Sunday?

The fact is Joe Blow who works at Acme Law firm would actually get fired, not suspended for a positive drug test and no one would be up in arms about it or care, but on the flipside Josh Gordon gets (potentially) suspended and people who follow his team or have him on their fantasy team act like a crime against humanity was committed because he may face a suspension from breaking his company policy.

If I was out to lunch and had a beer and my company found out about it I would be fired. If I failed a drug test, I never would have beed hired in the first place.

While I agree with those that say smoking a little weed, shouldn't be a big deal - it doesn't change the fact that Josh Gordon knew that he shouldn't be doing so, and did.

Excellent post, but since when has this become the popular sentiment? PErhaps I am just out of touch, but I personally agree with the League's position against the usage of marijuana. These are professional athletes being paid millions for the privilege of playing in the NFL. Josh Gordon knew and understood the rule and the consequence. He has been down this path before. Just last year, Gordon discussed this very topic when he faced a suspension for a failed drug test.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/09/cleveland_browns_josh_gordon_n.html

Unfortunate that in that article he seems to realize he has 1 more chance, and he still did this.

Seems like it will be a year according to the article. Like he was told after the last infraction that he will be gone for a year if he is found in violation.

 

[KellysHeroes]

If I test positive for weed I get fired from my job, because I agreed to and understand the laws of UCMJ. He knew what would happen if he continued use and didn't care, thats all I need to know about this young man.

And I have no pity, he had a chance to make millions, MILLIONS!!!!! by playing a game many of us wish we could play... and he smoked it away.

 

[Soulfly3]

Seems like it will be a year according to the article. Like he was told after the last infraction that he will be gone for a year if he is found in violation.

Six reduced to four.

Deal with it.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Seems like it will be a year according to the article. Like he was told after the last infraction that he will be gone for a year if he is found in violation.

Six reduced to four.

Deal with it.

Wouldn't bother me but man are you going to be disappointed if you are wrong.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Six reduced to four.
Deal with it.

Please stop. Have enough patience to wait for the announcement instead of trying to be Matlock and pinpointing where Gordon is in the program because you are merely guessing like everyone else.

 

[Soulfly3]

Six reduced to four.

Deal with it.

Please stop. Have enough patience to wait for the announcement instead of trying to be Matlock and pinpointing where Gordon is in the program because you are merely guessing like everyone else.

Ok.

16 games guys!! For sure!!

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Six reduced to four.

Deal with it.

Please stop. Have enough patience to wait for the announcement instead of trying to be Matlock and pinpointing where Gordon is in the program because you are merely guessing like everyone else.

Ok.

16 games guys!! For sure!!

Your thread title:

Josh Gordon facing 1 year suspension?

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Six reduced to four.
Deal with it.

Please stop. Have enough patience to wait for the announcement instead of trying to be Matlock and pinpointing where Gordon is in the program because you are merely guessing like everyone else.

Not to mention.....He titled this thread: "Gordon facing 1 year suspension"......Why didn't he title it "Gordon Facing Six months With a Possible Reduction to Four".

 

[Soulfly3]

Six reduced to four.

Deal with it.

Please stop. Have enough patience to wait for the announcement instead of trying to be Matlock and pinpointing where Gordon is in the program because you are merely guessing like everyone else.

Not to mention.....He titled this thread: "Gordon facing 1 year suspension"......Why didn't he title it "Gordon Facing Six months With a Possible Reduction to Four".

Life's greatest mysteries.

Or maybe the question mark in the title answers your question?

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Seems like it will be a year according to the article. Like he was told after the last infraction that he will be gone for a year if he is found in violation.

Six reduced to four.

Deal with it.

OK, let's say you're right and he gets four games. What over / under would you set on the timeframe until he tests positive again? Or will this be the time he finally gets it? We're now on his fifth failed test in the past three and a half years, just counting the ones we know about.

 

[Soulfly3]

OK, let's say you're right and he gets four games. What over / under would you set on the timeframe until he tests positive again? Or will this be the time he finally gets it? We're now on his fifth failed test in the past three and a half years, just counting the ones we know about.

No idea. maybe it sinks in, maybe it doesn't.

But Im gonna enjoy the ride of the NFLs 2nd best WR atm

 

[Kevrunner]

If they decide to remake Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Josh Gordon would be awesome playing the Jeff Spicoli part.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

OK, let's say you're right and he gets four games. What over / under would you set on the timeframe until he tests positive again? Or will this be the time he finally gets it? We're now on his fifth failed test in the past three and a half years, just counting the ones we know about.

No idea. maybe it sinks in, maybe it doesn't.

But Im gonna enjoy the ride of the NFLs 2nd best WR atm

I get that as a Browns' fan for sure. As a Steelers' homer I'm still chapped as hell having to cheer for a rapist every Sunday. How 'bout as a Gordon FF owner though? You were pretty vocal about him a few months ago. You standing hard on that top overall player valuation?

 

[Soulfly3]

I get that as a Browns' fan for sure. As a Steelers' homer I'm still chapped as hell having to cheer for a rapist every Sunday. How 'bout as a Gordon FF owner though? You were pretty vocal about him a few months ago. You standing hard on that top overall player valuation?

I only have Gordon in ONE league.

Wouldnt sell him for any single player in the NFL. Dead serious.

Could it kill me in the end? sure. I guess.

But his talent and upside to me, he's the no1 dynasty WR. Now, he has to stay on the field for that to happen. That's the issue. Im sound enough at WR that I can afford that risk

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Six reduced to four.

Deal with it.

Please stop. Have enough patience to wait for the announcement instead of trying to be Matlock and pinpointing where Gordon is in the program because you are merely guessing like everyone else.

Ok.

16 games guys!! For sure!!

I feel bad for you. Don't think I have ever seen anything like your denial on a player. He's most likely not going to stay clean. Some guys choose drugs over Football. Blackmon Charles Rodgers both talented guys. Gordon has proven with 5 failed test. He hasn't even been paid. Imagine him after a big contract....

 

[Soulfly3]

Feel bad for me?

We're talking about a guy who as of right now is still playing week 1 this upcoming season.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I get that as a Browns' fan for sure. As a Steelers' homer I'm still chapped as hell having to cheer for a rapist every Sunday. How 'bout as a Gordon FF owner though? You were pretty vocal about him a few months ago. You standing hard on that top overall player valuation?

I only have Gordon in ONE league.

Wouldnt sell him for any single player in the NFL. Dead serious.

Could it kill me in the end? sure. I guess.

But his talent and upside to me, he's the no1 dynasty WR. Now, he has to stay on the field for that to happen. That's the issue. Im sound enough at WR that I can afford that risk

Glllllll with that man. You're thinking with your heart here, not your head.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Six reduced to four.

Deal with it.

Please stop. Have enough patience to wait for the announcement instead of trying to be Matlock and pinpointing where Gordon is in the program because you are merely guessing like everyone else.

Not to mention.....He titled this thread: "Gordon facing 1 year suspension"......Why didn't he title it "Gordon Facing Six months With a Possible Reduction to Four".

Life's greatest mysteries.

Or maybe the question mark in the title answers your question?

Not to split hairs but; (Josh Gordon Facing "Possible" 1 year Suspension)....may have been in better for your case.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Besides, Johnny Manziel or not, how much of a draw are the Cleveland Browns? They join Buffalo, Jacksonville, Minnesota, Oakland, and Tampa Bay as the only teams in the league that didn't get more than the minimum mandated one prime-time appearance this year. It's not like JFF alone is going to turn them into the new Dallas Cowboys, here.

True, but I think had the NFL not pushed the draft back this year and they knew Manziel was a Brown before releasing the schedule, they likely would have gotten another prime time game.

 

[Soulfly3]

@JohnTelich8 47m
Hearing we could know fate of Gordon in less than a week. #nfl #Browns

 

[amnesiac]

Besides, Johnny Manziel or not, how much of a draw are the Cleveland Browns? They join Buffalo, Jacksonville, Minnesota, Oakland, and Tampa Bay as the only teams in the league that didn't get more than the minimum mandated one prime-time appearance this year. It's not like JFF alone is going to turn them into the new Dallas Cowboys, here.

True, but I think had the NFL not pushed the draft back this year and they knew Manziel was a Brown before releasing the schedule, they likely would have gotten another prime time game.

that's what flex scheduling is for. if Manziel is starting i guarantee the NFL will find a way to give them another prime time game.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

Wondering what happened to Soulfly1 and Soulfly2. Soulflyswatter get 'em?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Soulfly3]

Wondering what happened to Soulfly1 and Soulfly2. Soulflyswatter get 'em?

Inquiring minds want to know.

I cannot speak on this, I apologize.

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

Six reduced to four.
Deal with it.

Please stop. Have enough patience to wait for the announcement instead of trying to be Matlock and pinpointing where Gordon is in the program because you are merely guessing like everyone else.

He's done more research and quoting of the actual language than anyone else. I don't think he's guessing.

 

[ghostguy123]

Soulfly123 is an optimist. Let him. Not many of those out there anymore.

But this whole thing just seems strange enough to make me think the initial reports are not based on anything of actual knowledge, other than knowing of a POSSBLE drug test failure, with no grasp at all on the severity of the punishment if there is one.

News comes out at such a "random" time, right before round 2 starts. I guess they wanted to make it look a LITTLE random instead of spewing it at 7pm before round 1 started.

Havent heard anything since. Strange and odd in this day and age where the media can see the inside of people colons.