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Kelce on Justin Tucker (1 Viewer)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Sorry, that was intended as sarcasm to steer away from jokes, not intent. My meaning was “they’ve already been made” not “please make them again.”
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
100% agreed.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
He's been a prima donna since Day One, but has played great so......
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
What sort of offer will the Browns end up making for him?
Chaka
Footballguy
He's a kicker, how can you tell?
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
title of thread just took on a whole different meaning....
JohnnyU
Footballguy
A kicker as a prima donna? That has to be a first. An A-hole maybe (see Vanderjagt).
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Timely article in the Athletic yesterday.
“He wore spandex sleeves, highlights in his hair and a diamond stud in his ear. He once called himself “the best kicker in history” and had the numbers to back it up. Before games, he used to slip a dollar bill under his wristband.
“Because I was money,” Mike Vanderjagt says.”
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Liquored up kicker
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
He’ll always be known by that name but he hadn’t had anything to drink when he gave that interview, Manning just made that up and it stuck. The two reportedly buried the hatchet shortly after and remain good friends.
Good catch to post here, read that the other day.
When he briefly played for Dallas he came on the radio one day and was asked who he looked like and he said "for lack of a better example, Brad Pitt". I think the host expected him to follow that up with some laughter or a joke but he was not kidding. This being back when Brad Pitt was in his heyday.
My wife heard this as well and to this day I still work it in jokes with the wife who also heard his interview. Like if go the gym and shoot hoops and she asks how did I play I'll answer with something for "for lack of a better example, Michael Jordan" and she understands where it's coming from.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
this should probably be merged with the ravens thread
rockaction
Footballguy
Patriots in 2001-2 with Adam Vinatieri?
Fat Nick
Footballguy
Yep...and I'll add how many seasons were lost (or Super Bowls) on misses by kickers?
People can joke about how trivial or replaceable kickers are to a football team...until they aren't.
rockaction
Footballguy
Ask this year’s Jets how they feel about reliable kickers
Chaka
Footballguy
Yeah, because the kicker was the problem.
rockaction
Footballguy
I just wrote in the Jets thread not to paper over their problems by blaming the kicker, but yes, if you watched the games, he cost them two games on chip shots this year and cost us much more in makeable (wow, sp? I'm stumped why spell check is going off here) field goals. This is one of those "you had to watch the full game" instances.
And that was while they were more than feasibly in the hunt for a playoff berth. Once they were eliminated, what the heck did they have to play for but pride?
Here, quick search. Oct 15th. By then he'd already blown a game. Check the headline.
Greg Zuerlein reveals nightmare kicking slump after costing Jets another potential win
The Jets kicker for the past two-plus seasons has now cost the team two potential victories in six games this season.
nypost.com
eighsse2
Footballguy
Looked it up and makable is a variant as well, but I would definitely go with makeable ... just feels much better. However, it's underlining both of them for me, so I guess it just doesn't recognize the word whatsoever. Weird.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Make-able.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yep. It’s sort of a compound. However, Merriam Webster has it listed. Sample usage in a sentence from M-W
“Or that Jake Moody missed another makeable field goal attempt from 41 yards.”
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
What about that punter for the raiders a few years ago? Wore #7 I think.
GregR
Footballguy
From what I understand the newspaper who broke the news only heard about it in January. This isn't a case of lawsuits that he knew about for months. So probably wouldn't have had any effect on him during the season. This is behavior that was years old.
lol, they'll low-Ball the Ravens due to the Tuck Rule.
this. 100%. Every man should try to avoid situations where he might be accused of anything. I was told to not move out of my house during the divorce, but I know guys who were falsely accused of DV, so I left and went to a hotel.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
Someone actually had some prediction months ago that there were personal issues. I thought it was on this site, but can’t remember for sure.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Who cares? The women who were assaulted and their families/friends probably.
That attitude is how these scumbags keep getting away with this stuff.
rockaction
Footballguy
He's most likely referring to the OP and not the bump.
rockaction
Footballguy
I've found that looking for the best intent on a message board when you don't know everybody intimately is a good way to approach things. There's a lot of things that people see that others have no idea how they're seeing it on their own devices (computers, phones, what have you).
Also always good to quote what you're responding to so that you're very clear in your intent and content. It just helps to do that. Anyway, I have a funny feeling he's responding to the Kelce/Tucker incident and not the massage stuff.
Also always good to quote what you're responding to so that you're very clear in your intent and content. It just helps to do that. Anyway, I have a funny feeling he's responding to the Kelce/Tucker incident and not the massage stuff.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Benefit of the doubt then.
Fathers of daughters and anyone who appreciates women don’t want to see “who cares” in these situations.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
As the OP, I cared. Which is why I shared it. It’s news. About Justin Tucker, who is a FF asset. On the topic about Justin Tucker
That person has the option to not read my contribution.
posting a rhetorical “who cares” took way more effort than say, not replying and going among one’s day.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I thought they were responding to the Tucker news, since that’s what bumped the topic.
But you might be correct. Hard to tell since entry didn’t quote anything.
rockaction
Footballguy
Naturally. But if you click on the first page and not the last page, you get Joe's Kelce/Tucker scenario. That's what I meant by OP. The very first post of the thread.
kewin316 is pretty new here. 55 total posts. I try to take everything into consideration when figuring things like this out. His newness mixed with a post that seems like it's addressing Joe's original post more than yours (note he doesn't say "he might be innocent" or "it's really no big deal that he sexually assaulted someone," instead he says "Who cares?" and in the next post asks if any kickers have won a championship—and remember Joe's post came about an event that happened during the AFC championship game—for their teams).
I don't know. Totality of all that and I'm leaning he was responding to the first page of the thread.
I could be wrong. I find it hard to believe people think "Who cares?" about sexual battery and are willing to say so publicly, so I cut them the benefit of the doubt first—especially if it's an ambiguous situation like this is. Peace.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I agree with this, but in general responding to any topic with “who cares” comes off as lacking etiquette, to put it mildly.
Again, it would take zero effort to not type anything at all. If people are discussing something, chances are good those people care about the discussion.
It’s disruptive. Clearly we’ve been disrupted by it.
Peace
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
As with the Watson situation, more women are coming forward:
www.thebaltimorebanner.com
Ravens’ Justin Tucker faces new allegations from 3 massage therapists
Three additional massage therapists are accusing Baltimore Ravens kicker Justin Tucker of sexually inappropriate behavior.
Insein
Footballguy
New here?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I’m like those new shoes that stupid people wear on a hike before breaking them in.
Gatorade
Footballguy
Maybe a foot rub would help that out.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m certainly holier than Tucker. I feel absolutely comfortable judging him for this from my high horse.
As for who got my horse high, that’s a story for a different day.
Yeah, a lot of services on the "secret" menu of some of these "massage" parlors. As someone who has had a lot of massages over my lifetime, I have never had the urge or need to go beyond traditional massage services, but have known several people that did. Kind of pathetic IMO, but it exists and is fairly common. Like Robert Kraft, Tucker is 7 kinds of stupid regardless of the circumstances. Even as a kicker, he is well known. Could be a case of money grab or maybe he is just a scumbag
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This came up a lot on the Watson topic.
There’s a wide range of massage services out there. They go from “human sex trafficking victims in Asian parlors” to “side hustle on Craigslist” to “outright prostitution under the guise of massage” to “actual professional CMTs” & “sports medicine therapists”.
Unfortunately, from what I’ve come to understand, some specifically target the professional CMTs and sports medicine therapists because they also get off on that aspect of it.
Or they just don’t respect women or recognize that there’s a difference between any of those categories.
In either case it is wildly inappropriate behavior, and IIRC from the Watson episode, the women he was inappropriate with were in the category of licensed CMTs.
All that said, I think what some folks struggle with is the concept of consent. Like, even a professional prostitute can say no. Tucker could have gone to a shady massage parlor and still acted inappropriately.
I guess we’ll find out what this was as more details emerge, but with more women coming out with allegations, Tucker is probably in for a long ride.
Also FWIW, there’s a post on Reddit that’s over a year old, where some random redditor describes an incident where his g/f had Tucker as a client, and he was seeking “extra services” & was refused. It’s a weird allegation to come out of the blue, especially long before any of this - which makes me believe it. If so, then apparently this has been going on for some time.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Those are basically the two possible outcomes. The more women come forward the more likely the latter is.
rschroeder1
Footballguy
Here are two of the websites of spas Tucker is alleged to have visited.Yeah, a lot of services on the "secret" menu of some of these "massage" parlors. As someone who has had a lot of massages over my lifetime, I have never had the urge or need to go beyond traditional massage services, but have known several people that did. Kind of pathetic IMO, but it exists and is fairly common. Like Robert Kraft, Tucker is 7 kinds of stupid regardless of the circumstances. Even as a kicker, he is well known. Could be a case of money grab or maybe he is just a scumbag
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Neither strikes me as the type of "massage parlor" you are referencing. Healing Path Baltimore specifically offers sports therapy massages.
As with Deshaun Watson, it is highly irregular for a highly paid athlete to not have a set massage therapist, let alone one organized by the team. The visiting of multiple spas is a pretty clear tell here.
