Korea: Nevermind (1 Viewer)

[dschuler]

North Korea is playing a countdown of the top 100 greatest North Koreans.

Does Dennis Rodman make the list?

 

[TenTimes]

I remember my first time thinking Korea was going to war.

 

[NCCommish]

Any sane person can see that North Korea really can not restart (technically they are already at war) a war. What can they do? The demilitarized zone has more mines than anywhere else in the world while the South Korean military is proficient enough to hold the line long enough for the US to shift enough forces to level the North. Their entire Navy and Air Forces would be neutralized within days. Their equipment is old and all they have are numbers of troops which simply does not have the same weighting as it back in the 50's with human wave tactics (and which was not effective agains UN forces until Chinese reinforcements greatly increased their numbers. If you restart the war then any decent President would take it as an opportunity to once and for all finish the problem by rolling the North and allowing eventual reunification of Korea under a democratic South lead government- which means as a despot leader, no more palaces and private runways and all the other trappings of leadership while your people starve.

But, I don't think anyone has every accused the North of being sane.

The North could kill millions before anyone could lift a finger. Their artillery installations would decimate SK cities in minutes. Now they would pay as we would level the place but they are certainly capable of doing a lot of damage first.

Yea, I guess you are right in that there is not much warning for incoming artillery rounds but the S. Koreans do regular full city drills to prepare which really ought to limit the civilian casualties significantly compared to the population and how much would be shot at them.

Last estimate I saw was 2 million dead or injured in the first hour. Over 500k shells landing on Seoul. And that's if they use conventional artillery not biological or nuclear. Who knows if those estimates hold? But its a serious threat.

Is this the same people that estimated the death toll right after the explosion in China? I can see it now, North Korea fires their entire stockpile of weapons on Seoul. Three people dead, 8 injured. (T/P's for the 3 BTW)

Sorry no its not. It's people that are competent.

 

[NCCommish]

Any sane person can see that North Korea really can not restart (technically they are already at war) a war. What can they do? The demilitarized zone has more mines than anywhere else in the world while the South Korean military is proficient enough to hold the line long enough for the US to shift enough forces to level the North. Their entire Navy and Air Forces would be neutralized within days. Their equipment is old and all they have are numbers of troops which simply does not have the same weighting as it back in the 50's with human wave tactics (and which was not effective agains UN forces until Chinese reinforcements greatly increased their numbers. If you restart the war then any decent President would take it as an opportunity to once and for all finish the problem by rolling the North and allowing eventual reunification of Korea under a democratic South lead government- which means as a despot leader, no more palaces and private runways and all the other trappings of leadership while your people starve.

But, I don't think anyone has every accused the North of being sane.

The North could kill millions before anyone could lift a finger. Their artillery installations would decimate SK cities in minutes. Now they would pay as we would level the place but they are certainly capable of doing a lot of damage first.

Yea, I guess you are right in that there is not much warning for incoming artillery rounds but the S. Koreans do regular full city drills to prepare which really ought to limit the civilian casualties significantly compared to the population and how much would be shot at them.

Last estimate I saw was 2 million dead or injured in the first hour. Over 500k shells landing on Seoul. And that's if they use conventional artillery not biological or nuclear. Who knows if those estimates hold? But its a serious threat.

Don't think that belief is true anymore given how antiquated there systems are. It would be horrible but not in the range of millions of dead.

Quick google search found this - http://asw.newpacificinstitute.org/?p=11355

Not sure I can agree with that but I hope we never settle the argument.

 

[johnnycakes]

The war was lost, the treaty signed. Nevermind.

 

[TheAristocrat]

North Korea is playing a countdown of the top 100 greatest North Koreans.

Might have to wait after the top 1000 Western Europeans, the top 1000 Eastern Europeans, the top 1000 anyone else, the top 1000 ridiculous rankings worldwide and then the top 100 Russians. Then North Korea's top 1. Or two if Tim can make a remarkable commitment to it.

 

[SacramentoBob]

HARD DELETE

 

[TheIronSheik]

Oil industry running out of lame excuses to keep gas high. At least this is more entertaining than the usual BS about some random refinery on the other side of the country having all their fruit stolen by landscapers, thereby offsetting any cost savings from refining $30/barrel oil.

Yes. All of that oil in Korea.

 

[El Floppo]

Oil industry running out of lame excuses to keep gas high. At least this is more entertaining than the usual BS about some random refinery on the other side of the country having all their fruit stolen by landscapers, thereby offsetting any cost savings from refining $30/barrel oil.

Yes. All of that oil in Korea.

sesame oil?

 

[Chadstroma]

Otis can rest easy now that it has been reported that N and S Korea have come to an agreement to avoid all out war.

 

[El Floppo]

PHEW

 

[Chadstroma]

PHEW

Yea, I know, it just felt different this time.

 

[TheIronSheik]

A simple "my bad" by North Korea kept a war from breaking out.

 

[kentric]

Otis can rest easy now that it has been reported that N and S Korea have come to an agreement to avoid all out war.

So we're good for what, another 3, 3 1/2 months?

 

[cstu]

Koreans gonna work it out.

 

[Chadstroma]

Otis can rest easy now that it has been reported that N and S Korea have come to an agreement to avoid all out war.

So we're good for what, another 3, 3 1/2 months?

Might be a bit longer. It looks like the new S. Korean leader is not about to play the "Here is food and money." when the North has a temper tantrum. If they don't think they can get something from it, it might actually keep them in line a bit longer.

 

[McGarnicle]

Otis can rest easy now that it has been reported that N and S Korea have come to an agreement to avoid all out war.

So we're good for what, another 3, 3 1/2 months?

No, I think we're good. For, like, forever. It seems to me, from reading the headline of some article I saw somewhere online but didn't actually click on, that N and S Korea have worked out their differences and I think it'll be peace, permanently, between these two countries from here on out.

I mean, this peace just feels different this time. You follow me? This time, I just get the sense, it's for real.

I definitely think it will last long time.

 

[Rustoleum]

Oil industry running out of lame excuses to keep gas high. At least this is more entertaining than the usual BS about some random refinery on the other side of the country having all their fruit stolen by landscapers, thereby offsetting any cost savings from refining $30/barrel oil.

Yes. All of that oil in Korea.

Exactly.

 

[kentric]

Otis can rest easy now that it has been reported that N and S Korea have come to an agreement to avoid all out war.

So we're good for what, another 3, 3 1/2 months?

No, I think we're good. For, like, forever. It seems to me, from reading the headline of some article I saw somewhere online but didn't actually click on, that N and S Korea have worked out their differences and I think it'll be peace, permanently, between these two countries from here on out.

I mean, this peace just feels different this time. You follow me? This time, I just get the sense, it's for real.

I definitely think it will last long time.

Its asian. Nothing lasts a long time. Except love that is.

 

[Chadstroma]

Read an article that the boy kind in N. Korea is getting together a 'pleasure unit'. They have been scouring the country looking for the prettiest girls for his benefit. In fact, it has been said the execution of his uncle previously was due to the fact he was in charge of the recruitment and got too close to some of the girls.

It is a tradition in his family third generation now to have these pleasure units of young women. As young as 14 it is said.

But somehow, this feels different this time.