Pip's Invitation
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I didn't say that. You need to use both. Anyone who argues otherwise is just engaging in shtick.
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Krista4's Beatles 1-25 List Thread! Count down will start Mon Feb 14 noon ET. Will take new lists til then... (2 Viewers)
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Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
He was still feeling guilty because his criticisms of Ringo's drumming caused him to quit for a week during the White Album sessions?Also on this date, in 1969, Paul sent this postcard to Ringo. Reason unknown.
He had just played drums on The Ballad of John and Yoko and was feeling guilty that it was going to be credited to the Beatles despite no participation from Ringo and George?
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
It wasn't. The single from Wish was Have a Cigar.
I'd also consider Money as far as Floyd singles go.
krista4
Footballguy
It was charming in any case.
Zegras11
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Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I know you didn't, but mainstream rock histories basically ignored singles artists after 1967. Well, except for punk, because it was The Next Big Thing and no one wanted to Miss Out and it was singles-based. Disco, country, MOR, and funk pretty much got erased from the narrative of conventional rock history for several decades.
Dr. Octopus
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odds for Mystery FFA guest writer:
- Guido Merkin -115
- Oliver Humanzee -110
- Godsbrother +120
- wikkidpissah +205
- Joe Bryant +450
- LHucks +1,200
ProstheticRGK
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I'm not wishing this, but I am morbidly curious what it would be like to read a Gekko screed about how Paul should have taken charge at Twickenham and immediately Krav Maga throat-punched Yoko and then unstrung his Hofner to set trip wires around all the entrances.
Dr. Octopus
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There's only a handful of posters that could ruin a magical thread like this and....
ProstheticRGK
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Leroy Hoard
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simey
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I'm positive he didn't mean you.I wasn't trying to Beetlejuice the thread.
Unless you meant me...
heckmanm
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ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Definitely not you.I wasn't trying to Beetlejuice the thread.
Unless you meant me...
Uruk-Hai
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wikkidpissah
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Leroy Hoard
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otb_lifer
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BobbyLayne
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The Beatles Anthology Revisited
(2015 podcast which is a bit hard to find)
Pitchfork article from 2016
18 episodes, 28 hours - put together by an anonymous fan in 2015.
It’s by far my favorite discovery of the past few months. It’s all the interviews from the 3-part Anthology (1995-96) plus a exhaustive compilation of other interviews from a wide variety of sources - BBC archives, Howard Stern, VH1, et al.
Despite pleas it’s covered by Fair Use, the (very aggressive) Apple lawyers have taken it down from Spotify, Apple Podcast, and anywhere else it pops up.
Anyway, I found a couple places you can still hear it (PM me please.)
Episode list:
01 'I had a vision when I was twelve…' – July 1940 - November 1960
02 'We started to play at a place called The Cavern…' – December 1960 - December 1962
03 'One long twelve-hour session…' – January - October 1963
04 'This Beatlemania thing started…' – October 1963 - February 1964
05 'It was just one giant three ring circus…' – February - December 1964
06 'We make the next film…' – January - August 1965
07 'It was the biggest crowd we ever played to…' – August - December 1965
08 'We spend more time on recording now…' – January - June 1966
09 'We had to give up touring…' – June 1966 - January 1967
10 'This idea of some fictitious band…' – January - August 1967
11 'He just drew a circle…' – August 1967 - February 1968
12 'I had a feel for India…' – February - July 1968
13 'There's no cover…' – July - December 1968
14 'That period was the low of all time…' – January 1969
15 'We made it in Abbey Road…' – February - September 1969
16 'After Brian died, we collapsed…' – October 1969 - April 1970
17 'We just ended up for a while at each other's throats…' – May 1970 - December 1976
18 'Just imagine the Beatles getting together again…' – January 1977 - April 2015
THIS. IS. AWESOME
(2015 podcast which is a bit hard to find)
Pitchfork article from 2016
18 episodes, 28 hours - put together by an anonymous fan in 2015.
It’s by far my favorite discovery of the past few months. It’s all the interviews from the 3-part Anthology (1995-96) plus a exhaustive compilation of other interviews from a wide variety of sources - BBC archives, Howard Stern, VH1, et al.
Despite pleas it’s covered by Fair Use, the (very aggressive) Apple lawyers have taken it down from Spotify, Apple Podcast, and anywhere else it pops up.
Anyway, I found a couple places you can still hear it (PM me please.)
Episode list:
01 'I had a vision when I was twelve…' – July 1940 - November 1960
02 'We started to play at a place called The Cavern…' – December 1960 - December 1962
03 'One long twelve-hour session…' – January - October 1963
04 'This Beatlemania thing started…' – October 1963 - February 1964
05 'It was just one giant three ring circus…' – February - December 1964
06 'We make the next film…' – January - August 1965
07 'It was the biggest crowd we ever played to…' – August - December 1965
08 'We spend more time on recording now…' – January - June 1966
09 'We had to give up touring…' – June 1966 - January 1967
10 'This idea of some fictitious band…' – January - August 1967
11 'He just drew a circle…' – August 1967 - February 1968
12 'I had a feel for India…' – February - July 1968
13 'There's no cover…' – July - December 1968
14 'That period was the low of all time…' – January 1969
15 'We made it in Abbey Road…' – February - September 1969
16 'After Brian died, we collapsed…' – October 1969 - April 1970
17 'We just ended up for a while at each other's throats…' – May 1970 - December 1976
18 'Just imagine the Beatles getting together again…' – January 1977 - April 2015
THIS. IS. AWESOME
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krista4
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Well that sure is a boring way to go about it. :(
Very cool. I'll take a PM, plz.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
most of us put in a different list - I didn't have mine handy at the time and just started from scratch
some of it was really different ...and I totally missed one that I probably need to put back on - but I'd probably rather stick to the promise I made to myself not to change it once submitted.
krista4
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AAABatteries
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Just throat punched? More like murder her and the top 10 ways to dispose of her bodyProstheticRGK said:
Pip's Invitation
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BobbyLayne
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Zegras11
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Hey all. Longtime member of the board (back to the days when it was cheatsheets.com), though infrequent poster. I had gone so long without posting I actually lost my password under my old username. But I love the original Krista Beatles thread so much I had to participate this time (and thankfully the administrators approved a new account for me).
Just sent in my list. Being as crazy as I am I actually took on the Krista challenge and ranked the entire catalogue. I may post a link to the full list once the deadline passes.
Just sent in my list. Being as crazy as I am I actually took on the Krista challenge and ranked the entire catalogue. I may post a link to the full list once the deadline passes.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Fun sidebar - wish I had known about these 5-6 weeks ago but I only started reading Lewisohn's book a week ago - the Beatles put out an annual Christmas record each December for their official fan club, 1963-69.
These were not available commercially, they were mailed to members mid-December. Of course bc of the goofy way EMI handled releases, different flexi-discs for the U.K. and USA fan clubs.
ASIDE - in 2017 the U.K. 7" single sided EPs were boxed into a compilation release
The records ran three to seven minutes, including spoken word thank you messages, holiday and/or silly songs, skits, etc. Each year is microcosm of where the boys are at in their evolution. The first few years, straight forward fan appreciation records. They mock themselves Year 3 (1965) and then - with greater control over the studio - the experimentations begin in 1965. Some of these rival Revolution 9 as mini sound collages (though MUCH more enjoyable.)
Wikipedia - The Beatles Christmas Records
THE BEATLES' CHRISTMAS RECORDS: They wanna wish you a merry crimble and a gear new year from the New Zealand site Elsewhere - really stupendous work year recapping each year for the lads, a couple song clips, abstract on the Christmas record, and full audio of the latter. I could find some of these but not all on YouTube but then happily stumbled onto this page.
Silly stuff to be sure but delightful discovery for me personally. I had no idea about this practice - I kept reading mentions of their annual Christmas record but didn't grasp what it was. Kind of love that they were so generous in giving back to the fans, even in the latter years when even this exercise was being done separately instead of in the studio together.
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One thing I noticing over and over in studying their upbringing and early years which I have not seen discussed...these boys worked their asses off. When they went over to Hamburg in August 1960 (the trip they all got deported except for John) here was the schedule:
List of the Beatles' live performances
It is astonishing. They would go 5-7 months of playing 28 gigs a month with 2-3 days off. Couple weeks break, and then right back at it. Now sure, they're all young and energetic and hopped up on Preludin, but even still, their work ethic is tremendous. Even in 1969 when they're about to splinter off, they're going to the studio every single day to write songs. That's the full-time gig - see if you can write an album with no overdubs in 3-4 weeks time. They're the biggest thing ever yet they're working on the craft every day. Then getting started on Abbey Road a few weeks after the rooftop concert (Feb 22nd.)
Of course it's easy to forget about this now. Macca is worth $400M, Ringo $350M, the Harrison and Lennon estates are in a similar stratosphere. They were certainly living large in the mid-sixties, what with each of them acquiring Grade II country estates, John buying Mimi seaside digs, Paul setting his pops up in a wealthy suburb. But those early years, straight through the Beatlemania, the World Tours, they were working almost nonstop. They made one of the greatest albums of all time in Rubber Soul - four months latter they were back in the studio pushing the envelope yet again, giving the world the incredible Revolver. It just blows my mind that Help!, RS and R all came out within 12 months of each other.
How many other bands, giving the same unique set of circumstances, would have made the choices they did? When you consider it all in context, they kept choosing the hard road. Everyone else had a hit, they wanted the next one to be the same sound to ensure it would chart. But the Fab Four just wanted to keep going in different directions - challenging themselves, inventing techniques they didn't exist.
Little wonder they're the most influential band which ever existed.
These were not available commercially, they were mailed to members mid-December. Of course bc of the goofy way EMI handled releases, different flexi-discs for the U.K. and USA fan clubs.
ASIDE - in 2017 the U.K. 7" single sided EPs were boxed into a compilation release
The records ran three to seven minutes, including spoken word thank you messages, holiday and/or silly songs, skits, etc. Each year is microcosm of where the boys are at in their evolution. The first few years, straight forward fan appreciation records. They mock themselves Year 3 (1965) and then - with greater control over the studio - the experimentations begin in 1965. Some of these rival Revolution 9 as mini sound collages (though MUCH more enjoyable.)
Wikipedia - The Beatles Christmas Records
THE BEATLES' CHRISTMAS RECORDS: They wanna wish you a merry crimble and a gear new year from the New Zealand site Elsewhere - really stupendous work year recapping each year for the lads, a couple song clips, abstract on the Christmas record, and full audio of the latter. I could find some of these but not all on YouTube but then happily stumbled onto this page.
Silly stuff to be sure but delightful discovery for me personally. I had no idea about this practice - I kept reading mentions of their annual Christmas record but didn't grasp what it was. Kind of love that they were so generous in giving back to the fans, even in the latter years when even this exercise was being done separately instead of in the studio together.
_______________
One thing I noticing over and over in studying their upbringing and early years which I have not seen discussed...these boys worked their asses off. When they went over to Hamburg in August 1960 (the trip they all got deported except for John) here was the schedule:
- £2.50 each a day
- seven days a week
- played 8:30–9:30, 10 until 11, 11:30–12:30, and finishing the evening playing from one until two o'clock in the morning.
List of the Beatles' live performances
It is astonishing. They would go 5-7 months of playing 28 gigs a month with 2-3 days off. Couple weeks break, and then right back at it. Now sure, they're all young and energetic and hopped up on Preludin, but even still, their work ethic is tremendous. Even in 1969 when they're about to splinter off, they're going to the studio every single day to write songs. That's the full-time gig - see if you can write an album with no overdubs in 3-4 weeks time. They're the biggest thing ever yet they're working on the craft every day. Then getting started on Abbey Road a few weeks after the rooftop concert (Feb 22nd.)
Of course it's easy to forget about this now. Macca is worth $400M, Ringo $350M, the Harrison and Lennon estates are in a similar stratosphere. They were certainly living large in the mid-sixties, what with each of them acquiring Grade II country estates, John buying Mimi seaside digs, Paul setting his pops up in a wealthy suburb. But those early years, straight through the Beatlemania, the World Tours, they were working almost nonstop. They made one of the greatest albums of all time in Rubber Soul - four months latter they were back in the studio pushing the envelope yet again, giving the world the incredible Revolver. It just blows my mind that Help!, RS and R all came out within 12 months of each other.
How many other bands, giving the same unique set of circumstances, would have made the choices they did? When you consider it all in context, they kept choosing the hard road. Everyone else had a hit, they wanted the next one to be the same sound to ensure it would chart. But the Fab Four just wanted to keep going in different directions - challenging themselves, inventing techniques they didn't exist.
Little wonder they're the most influential band which ever existed.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Those fan club Christmas releases are great. The weekend Beatles show that Krista was on played some of those around the holidays. Nice to hear different things than the usual being played on the radio. 
otb_lifer
Footballguy
Those fan club Christmas releases are great. The weekend Beatles show that Krista was on played some of those around the holidays. Nice to hear different things than the usual being played on the radio.
... on a slightly related note:
i used to wretch and spasm, summoning up the phlegm, whenever Macca's ubiquitous "Wonderful Christmas Time" disgraced the airwaves.
####in' brutal :X
but, now?
love it.
dunno if it's a case of 42 yr Stockholm Syndrome, or if that bastid of a tunesmith was right all along.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
My kids want to do a list. 24 y.o. has been a fan since the oughties tho he’s more of an EDM guy. The 14 y.o. danced a ballet recital to “Blackbird” 7-8 years ago; been digging them ever since.
***announcement***
I’ve already submitted but I’m using the ranker tool suggested by @krista4 to make up my own Top 204.
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otb_lifer
Footballguy
will all the songs submitted from the individual lists be revealed?
or is that gonna be strictly up to the poster(s) to divulge?
- with all the songs in the hopper thus far, is there a possiblity of doing the top fitty?
(dunno how these usually shake out, as i have not been around during the other lists/countdowns/etc)
Zegras11
Footballguy
not 100% sure what you are asking here.will all the songs submitted from the individual lists be revealed?
or is that gonna be strictly up to the poster(s) to divulge?
- with all the songs in the hopper thus far, is there a possiblity of doing the top fitty?
(dunno how these usually shake out, as i have not been around during the other lists/countdowns/etc)
Right now there are 161 songs that have been listed. Our countdown right now would be from 161 to 1.
I will not be posting anyone's full list after the countdown is over like last time.
Likely to list names of those who had a particular song in their Top 10.
krista4
Footballguy
Those fan club Christmas releases are great. The weekend Beatles show that Krista was on played some of those around the holidays. Nice to hear different things than the usual being played on the radio.
Yeah, I wrote about these in the solo Beatles thread (at least I think that's where I did). They're cool. Ringo redid one of them, "Christmas Time (Is Here Again)" on his solo Christmas album, which is a real hoot by the way.
I've come around to the idea that it's not as bad as I thought. OH does not agree; here were his thoughts:"“For a three-hour long song, it went by pretty quick. WTF were you thinking? What was he thinking? How did that guy write “Helter Skelter,” “Hey Jude,” and that? How do you not discern between an idea and a good idea? Did somebody just have him in a room with some synthesizers and a gun to his head, and said I need a Christmas song in six minutes or I’ll blow your head all over this Moog? How else did he get bing bong bing bong, yeah, I’ll just double it, joke’s on you, guy! That song is designed to make me ####### crazy. You couldn’t go into a lab, you could study everything about my psyche and say, what would really bother Devin? Well, Christmas music is up there, and horrible electronica, and a bunch of jarring noises that are somehow made irritating, and stupid lyrics…”practicing all year long”? Who the hell practices Christmas carols all year long? No one sits a kid in a room and says you gotta sing Jingle Bells. No one practices Christmas carols. You start singing them December 1 at earliest. If I could I’d murder that song. If I could go back in time, I wouldn’t murder Hitler or whatever, I’d go back to when Paul was writing that song, and destroy all evidence it ever existed. Bop him over the head. Maybe we’d lose a few good songs in the process, like sorry world, I’m sorry you lost the next “Blackbird,” but I saved you from the worst thing that ever happened. I’m getting angry about that song even though I heard it five minutes ago. I mean, I’m upset about having had it happen, not while it happened. That’s PTSD, man.”
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Paul should have saved that Christmas song just for his fan club newsletter. It would sound much better as a rarity.
BTW as a Brian Wilson fan, that Beach Boys Christmas tune he wrote is also not good. "Christmas comes this time each year" isn't exactly a showcase of his genius.
BTW as a Brian Wilson fan, that Beach Boys Christmas tune he wrote is also not good. "Christmas comes this time each year" isn't exactly a showcase of his genius.
simey
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I don't want anyone to know I ranked Octopus' Garden No. 1.will all the songs submitted from the individual lists be revealed?
or is that gonna be strictly up to the poster(s) to divulge?
- with all the songs in the hopper thus far, is there a possiblity of doing the top fitty?
(dunno how these usually shake out, as i have not been around during the other lists/countdowns/etc)
otb_lifer
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