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LHUCKS' 4th Annual FBG Rankings Critique (1 Viewer)
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I disagree but to each his own.I posted that rather than PM so there'd be some feedback from others too. OK then
Interesting logic.Don't say anything bad about a QB, unless you have film on yourself doing better. All those silly media people criticizing the president. Lets see how well the economy did under their term!No one can comment unless they have better first hand experience. So basically only Dodds should have had the right to make a post in this thread. You remind me of the Raiders offense.
Figured my post would get a rise out of you, looks like I was right.It's FF so anybody can make projections!!! But LHucks had the bawls to state them.Again where are your projections?
I don't disagree with ya CrackerHowever, ya got a few bumped threads here, one that was here and is now in the FFA. He took his praise in preseason, and last few weeks he ate his crow. When is "enough's enough"?Eh well, rhetorical question I suppose. Have a good night
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Hopefully you listened to my advice to take Bush only in a PPR. I said it'd probably be a while and dependent on McAllister not playing up to snuff for Bush to do well in non-PPR leagues (though I also added that *I* would be taking him in my big $$ non-PPR b/c I've been waiting for him for two years).Dayne you definitely have to lay on SSOG.In the future, ignore me on RBs - I have a couple years running of doing REALLY poorly with my RB 8-15 rankings. Though I am pretty good after that - I was higher than most on TBell, FTaylor, WDunn, The WRs are on LHUCKS. While I didn't anticipate RMoss being THIS bad, I think most everyone whiffed on that one. The only WR I was high on from that list was Mason - and I'm in the same boat as I drafted him in a couple of leagues.BassNBrew said:
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Well, in all fairness, I believe LHUCKS used the combined average staff ratings, and he singled out those staff members who were closest and furthest away, so any staff member could jump in here.But, when you put yourself out there like LHUCKS did, I think it is acceptable for folks to check his accuracy at mid-season.I agree with those who say the grading is poor and that LHUCKS deserves some credit that he did not receive. I read everything by LHUCKS, he makes good, well reasoned arguments and he has definite opinions on players. Those are the kinds of posts I like to read in the preseason. Alternative viewpoints are good.billyjoe said:
jerseydevil20
Footballguy
Take it easy on this guy, he's only been here for a week.rascal said:
Islander
Footballguy
Most everyone whiffed? That's just a bad excuse. The average FBG ranking for R Moss was WR5. His ADP was WR8. So if his ADP was 8, there are a bunch of people out there in the world who had him at WR11 or lower. Ranking Moss WR12 (for example) is hardly whiffing. Sure he's nowhere the top 20 right now, but I would say a ranking of WR11 or lower was a good call. You don't need to rank a guy spot on in order to be correct. You just have to deviate by a reasonable number of spots in the right direction.On R Moss, the FBG staff did horribly. There is not a freakin FBG on staff who had him ranked lower than his ADP out of 17 staffers. Absolutely horrible. Rudnicki was the only one who did not rank him higher than his ADP with his ranking of WR8. So that's 0-16-1 for the FBG staff vs ADP for R Moss.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Bri said:
If you want Lhucks' phone number, just ask.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Can we stick to ragging on one prognosticator at a time?
BassNBrew
Footballguy
No...we'd prefer to throw wild haymakers at all of them until one of the them defends himself and then we'll dogpile that guy.Can we stick to ragging on one prognosticator at a time?
BassNBrew
Footballguy
I didn't release my WR rankings, but here a my RB rankings for abuse. Missed big on Caddy, Lewis, Foster, Bush, and Bell. Alexander, Brown, McGahee, Parker, Westbrook, McGahee, Jordan, and Taylor were solid calls. Also had the top 3 right thus far, just not in the right order. Interesting thing is you can undo a pile of good projections of identifying busts in real life by having two guys ranked too high...aka - Caddy, Bush.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
J R said:
Blast away. I'll be taking a closer look at my rankings than anybody else, that is for certain. 
I perform a detailed postseason analysis as early as week 1 of the the NFL playoffs.Everybody should remember that the critiques are done in the spring. I have more recent rankings and draft strategy threads that I put out just before the season starts and I spend most of my time analyzing those as opposed to the assertions in this thread. It should also be noted that we've only had 9 weeks of football...I'll pay more attention to comments/criticism after the season is over.
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LHUCKS asked me to post his postseason analysis for him.Blast away. I'll be taking a closer look at my rankings than anybody else, that is for certain.
Everybody should remember that the critiques are done in the spring. I have more recent rankings and draft strategy threads that I put out just before the season starts and I spend most of my time analyzing those as opposed to the assertions in this thread. It should also be noted that we've only had 9 weeks of football...I'll pay more attention to comments/criticism after the season is over.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
What's with the bumping of old threads?LHUCKS asked me to post his postseason analysis for him.
Everybody should remember that the critiques are done in the spring. I have more recent rankings and draft strategy threads that I put out just before the season starts and I spend most of my time analyzing those as opposed to the assertions in this thread. It should also be noted that we've only had 9 weeks of football...I'll pay more attention to comments/criticism after the season is over.
dparker713
Footballguy
Interesting to look back on last years predictions to figure out how they did. So, Im going to list the players then their consensus FBG projections, Lhucks' projections, actual finish using standard FBG scoring.What's with the bumping of old threads?LHUCKS asked me to post his postseason analysis for him.Blast away. I'll be taking a closer look at my rankings than anybody else, that is for certain.
Everybody should remember that the critiques are done in the spring. I have more recent rankings and draft strategy threads that I put out just before the season starts and I spend most of my time analyzing those as opposed to the assertions in this thread. It should also be noted that we've only had 9 weeks of football...I'll pay more attention to comments/criticism after the season is over.
Too High:
Chad Johnson - 2/7/4 - Just about a wash, 2-3 had about the same gap as 3-10 this year.
Hines Ward - 12/18/22 - Lhucks wins this one
Andre Johnson - 16/25/15 - FBGs were about as accurate as you can be on AJ.
Too Low:
Santana Moss - 18/8/27 - FBG wins as Moss was fairly overvalued, not undervalued.
Derrick Mason - 20/12/47 - Same as Moss
Joey Galloway - 22/14/15 - Lhucks was dead on this one
Eddie Kennison - 27/19/29 - FBGs were again very accurate on this
Reggie Williams - 61/49/46 - Lhucks was correct on this, but even so, he's at best a 4 player in a 12 team league and a 5th WR in a 10 team league.
So, I'll go 4-2-1 advantage FBGs with the Williams projection fairly irrelevant nitpicking. It does seem that his misses were bigger than the FGBs, but thats just my subjective impression. Seeing as his projections were generally inside the ranges of the projections used to create the consensus, its not like he was making bold predictions.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
I enjoy looking back at my rankings as much as I do putting them together, anybody who doesn't do that isn't looking to improve their game.I agree with your synopsis...in general I was off on my WR value picks last year and this was probably my worst critique from a WR perspective in some time. It is interesting that many of my WR value picks had QB turbulence though...that's something I've really been thinking about a lot this offseason. I need to incorporate QB risk into my WR rankings much more than I have in the past, that became very apparent to me this past year.One thing to remember is that a lot of my value picks could be taken very late, so even if I'm off on them it doesn't necessarily kill me. The one player I really missed out on at the top was Andre Johnson, didn't think he'd have the year he did. You should check out my actual WR rankings if you want a better picture of how I fared at the WR position in general.
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You did get CJ correct. And people still took him in the 2nd round. Aging WRs are usually undervalued.So I like the general theory, I usually stockpile old 32+ year old WRs, last year was just a bad year for them.I enjoy looking back at my rankings as much as I do putting them together, anybody who doesn't do that isn't looking to improve their game.I agree with your synopsis...in general I was off on my WR value picks last year and this was probably my worst critique from a WR perspective in some time. It is interesting that many of my WR value picks had QB turbulence though...that's something I've really been thinking about a lot this offseason. I need to incorporate QB risk into my WR rankings much more than I have in the past, that became very apparent to me this past year.One thing to remember is that a lot of my value picks could be taken very late, so even if I'm off on them it doesn't necessarily kill me. The one player I really missed out on at the top was Andre Johnson, didn't think he'd have the year he did. You should check out my actual WR rankings if you want a better picture of how I fared at the WR position in general.
Team Legacy
Footballguy
LHUCKS: With Schaub in Hou now that Carr is gone, how will this affect Andre Johnson's numbers from last year? Is Schaub what you'd call QB Risk? I think he's an unknown, but I don't see them giving up on him unless an injury occurs. Then of course, Rosenfels comes in to save the day.
I see Offensive/Coaching Philosophy as my # 1 ranking system. I then use Player Talents as #2. Something like QB risk when ranking my WRs would take a huge back seat to Offensive/Coaching Philosophy. Its sort of factored in to the philosophy. Somebody, even Rosenfels will throw it to him right?
I see Offensive/Coaching Philosophy as my # 1 ranking system. I then use Player Talents as #2. Something like QB risk when ranking my WRs would take a huge back seat to Offensive/Coaching Philosophy. Its sort of factored in to the philosophy. Somebody, even Rosenfels will throw it to him right?
