Maroney (1 Viewer)

[ImTheScientist]

Right from Joe's random shots:

NE RB Maroney 4 yard rush to the 5

NE RB Maroney 2 yard rush to the 3 (Morris TD)

You can't go backwards in GL situations. Morris doesn't, Maroney often does.

 

[dirtywaters20]

Right from Joe's random shots:NE RB Maroney 4 yard rush to the 5NE RB Maroney 2 yard rush to the 3 (Morris TD)You can't go backwards in GL situations. Morris doesn't, Maroney often does.

At least he got a carry from the 5?

 

[ImTheScientist]

What most galls me as a Maroney owner is that I simply can't believe that Sammy Morris is just now going to become an effective enough runner to merit a 150-carry season. He's 30 years old, and when he was younger he wasn't able to wrest a #1 job from the likes of Shawn Bryson, Antowain Smith or Travis Minor.

Those teams didn't have a shred of the offensive talent that the Pats currently have. I think Morris has always been a decent back but now he's on a team where a bunch of other guys have to be respected by defenses. This is why I still feel Maroney has a lot to offer. He's more talented than Morris and the defenses can't focus on him.

If you really thought Morris was a "decent back" before this season, then I salute your acumen. I'm not sure what he's done in his seven-year career to earn that kind of review (the 16 yards per game? the 3.9 ypc?). I think that if you'd polled people before the season on which teams had the greatest talent gap between their nos. 1 and 2 backs, the Patriots would have come out pretty high.I find the "Morris has the legs of a 24-year old" argument unconvincing. Trung Canidate is the same age as Morris and has even fewer career carries, but teams appear not to be wowed by his fresh legs.

I don't understand all the sudden love for Morris either. Talent will rise to the top and in this case it will happen also.

 

[ceo3west]

What most galls me as a Maroney owner is that I simply can't believe that Sammy Morris is just now going to become an effective enough runner to merit a 150-carry season. He's 30 years old, and when he was younger he wasn't able to wrest a #1 job from the likes of Shawn Bryson, Antowain Smith or Travis Minor.

Those teams didn't have a shred of the offensive talent that the Pats currently have. I think Morris has always been a decent back but now he's on a team where a bunch of other guys have to be respected by defenses. This is why I still feel Maroney has a lot to offer. He's more talented than Morris and the defenses can't focus on him.

If you really thought Morris was a "decent back" before this season, then I salute your acumen. I'm not sure what he's done in his seven-year career to earn that kind of review (the 16 yards per game? the 3.9 ypc?). I think that if you'd polled people before the season on which teams had the greatest talent gap between their nos. 1 and 2 backs, the Patriots would have come out pretty high.I find the "Morris has the legs of a 24-year old" argument unconvincing. Trung Canidate is the same age as Morris and has even fewer career carries, but teams appear not to be wowed by his fresh legs.

I don't understand all the sudden love for Morris either. Talent will rise to the top and in this case it will happen also.

So you beleive Morris will have a sudden dropoff in production? If you beleive that, then that is a legitimate reason for increasing Maroney's workload.As for Morris' career average, as another poster stated, he has always been better than his career stats. He played for Buffalo & Miami who had TERRIBLE O-lines for years. Morris is finally getting to show his stuff playing for a great offense.

 

[ImTheScientist]

What most galls me as a Maroney owner is that I simply can't believe that Sammy Morris is just now going to become an effective enough runner to merit a 150-carry season. He's 30 years old, and when he was younger he wasn't able to wrest a #1 job from the likes of Shawn Bryson, Antowain Smith or Travis Minor.

Those teams didn't have a shred of the offensive talent that the Pats currently have. I think Morris has always been a decent back but now he's on a team where a bunch of other guys have to be respected by defenses. This is why I still feel Maroney has a lot to offer. He's more talented than Morris and the defenses can't focus on him.

If you really thought Morris was a "decent back" before this season, then I salute your acumen. I'm not sure what he's done in his seven-year career to earn that kind of review (the 16 yards per game? the 3.9 ypc?). I think that if you'd polled people before the season on which teams had the greatest talent gap between their nos. 1 and 2 backs, the Patriots would have come out pretty high.I find the "Morris has the legs of a 24-year old" argument unconvincing. Trung Canidate is the same age as Morris and has even fewer career carries, but teams appear not to be wowed by his fresh legs.

I don't understand all the sudden love for Morris either. Talent will rise to the top and in this case it will happen also.

So you beleive Morris will have a sudden dropoff in production? If you beleive that, then that is a legitimate reason for increasing Maroney's workload.As for Morris' career average, as another poster stated, he has always been better than his career stats. He played for Buffalo & Miami who had TERRIBLE O-lines for years. Morris is finally getting to show his stuff playing for a great offense.

I do beleive as the season goes on Morris will see less and less work. I don't know how you can say he has always been better than his career stats. That is a HUGE assumption on your part. If he was as good as a lot of people around here are saying he is he would have had a larger role even on BAD teams w/ Terrible O-lines. He didn't even have big roles on Bad teams......so whats that say about Morris?

 

[ceo3west]

What most galls me as a Maroney owner is that I simply can't believe that Sammy Morris is just now going to become an effective enough runner to merit a 150-carry season. He's 30 years old, and when he was younger he wasn't able to wrest a #1 job from the likes of Shawn Bryson, Antowain Smith or Travis Minor.

Those teams didn't have a shred of the offensive talent that the Pats currently have. I think Morris has always been a decent back but now he's on a team where a bunch of other guys have to be respected by defenses. This is why I still feel Maroney has a lot to offer. He's more talented than Morris and the defenses can't focus on him.

If you really thought Morris was a "decent back" before this season, then I salute your acumen. I'm not sure what he's done in his seven-year career to earn that kind of review (the 16 yards per game? the 3.9 ypc?). I think that if you'd polled people before the season on which teams had the greatest talent gap between their nos. 1 and 2 backs, the Patriots would have come out pretty high.I find the "Morris has the legs of a 24-year old" argument unconvincing. Trung Canidate is the same age as Morris and has even fewer career carries, but teams appear not to be wowed by his fresh legs.

<_< I don't understand all the sudden love for Morris either. Talent will rise to the top and in this case it will happen also.

So you beleive Morris will have a sudden dropoff in production? If you beleive that, then that is a legitimate reason for increasing Maroney's workload.As for Morris' career average, as another poster stated, he has always been better than his career stats. He played for Buffalo & Miami who had TERRIBLE O-lines for years. Morris is finally getting to show his stuff playing for a great offense.

I do beleive as the season goes on Morris will see less and less work. I don't know how you can say he has always been better than his career stats. That is a HUGE assumption on your part. If he was as good as a lot of people around here are saying he is he would have had a larger role even on BAD teams w/ Terrible O-lines. He didn't even have big roles on Bad teams......so whats that say about Morris?

IMO Morris is certainly not an RB you want as a feature back carrying 25 times a game, but he's great for an RBBC type situation. He's a perfect compliment to Maroney, like "thunder & lightning". He was a late bloomer as evidenced by his roles & YPC in his first four years compared to the last few (he's averaged 4.1ypc over the last 3 years also). When given the chance, he has produced at a pretty high level, and BB knew this when he signed him on the first day of free agency. I'm not saying he's more talented than Maroney, but again, barring a sudden dropoff in production or injury, there is no reason to beleive Morris' role will be reduced.

 

[ImTheScientist]

IMO Morris is certainly not an RB you want as a feature back carrying 25 times a game, but he's great for an RBBC type situation. He's a perfect compliment to Maroney, like "thunder & lightning". He was a late bloomer as evidenced by his roles & YPC in his first four years compared to the last few (he's averaged 4.1ypc over the last 3 years also). When given the chance, he has produced at a pretty high level, and BB knew this when he signed him on the first day of free agency. I'm not saying he's more talented than Maroney, but again, barring a sudden dropoff in production or injury, there is no reason to beleive Morris' role will be reduced.

Guess we just will not agree <_< and only time will tell.

 

[Bossman]

It's me, a NE fan again.

Watching both NE games this year I think that I should point out the fact that Morris and Maroney are splitting series.

Morris plays an entire drive then Maroney comes in for the next drive.

It looks exactly like it did with Dillon last year.

(edit to add: I offered the Maroney owner Frank Gore straight up last year in a Dynasty league... sometimes the best trades are the ones that the other owner rejects.)

 

[Sid G]

Right from Joe's random shots:NE RB Maroney 4 yard rush to the 5NE RB Maroney 2 yard rush to the 3 (Morris TD)You can't go backwards in GL situations. Morris doesn't, Maroney often does.

Got any numbers on that? That's not backhanded skepticism; I'm actually interested.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Right from Joe's random shots:

NE RB Maroney 4 yard rush to the 5

NE RB Maroney 2 yard rush to the 3 (Morris TD)

You can't go backwards in GL situations. Morris doesn't, Maroney often does.

Got any numbers on that? That's not backhanded skepticism; I'm actually interested.

 

[MG345]

Maroney hasn't had a single carry for negative yards this year, and only two or three for no gains.

 

[fatboyj711]

IMO Morris is certainly not an RB you want as a feature back carrying 25 times a game, but he's great for an RBBC type situation. He's a perfect compliment to Maroney, like "thunder & lightning". He was a late bloomer as evidenced by his roles & YPC in his first four years compared to the last few (he's averaged 4.1ypc over the last 3 years also). When given the chance, he has produced at a pretty high level, and BB knew this when he signed him on the first day of free agency. I'm not saying he's more talented than Maroney, but again, barring a sudden dropoff in production or injury, there is no reason to beleive Morris' role will be reduced.

Guess we just will not agree and only time will tell.

After reading all the posts in this thread, I'm not quite understanding what your position is here. Are you saying Maroney will eventually receive 25+ carries a game once BB is done working him in? Also, I don't think anyone is saying that Morris is MORE talented than Maroney... it's not a stretch to say that Morris actually does have some talent and purpose in NE's offense (if not as a running back in general). You're right in saying that the cream rises to the top, but that doesn't necessarily translate into becoming a workhorse RB.Once everyone comes to terms with the fact that Maroney is not BB's workhorse back who will receive 25-30 carries a game, we can talk about what's disappointing most of his owners... although Maroney's shown flashes in both games this year, he's not making the most of the touches he's receiving (unlike his former college teammate in Dallas, who Maroney owners probably look at with jealousy and disgust)... I think it's too early to start panicking, but if you drafted Maroney with your sites set on 350 carries, you will come away from the season being disappointed.

 

[dirtywaters20]

It's me, a NE fan again.Watching both NE games this year I think that I should point out the fact that Morris and Maroney are splitting series.Morris plays an entire drive then Maroney comes in for the next drive. It looks exactly like it did with Dillon last year.(edit to add: I offered the Maroney owner Frank Gore straight up last year in a Dynasty league... sometimes the best trades are the ones that the other owner rejects.)

I thought this was the case in the Charger game. Doesn't that mean that Maroney would get the goal line carries that occur during his series? This situation is f'd.

 

[Judge Smails]

Right from Joe's random shots:

NE RB Maroney 4 yard rush to the 5

NE RB Maroney 2 yard rush to the 3 (Morris TD)

You can't go backwards in GL situations. Morris doesn't, Maroney often does.

Got any numbers on that? That's not backhanded skepticism; I'm actually interested.

Went by Joe's comments, but looking at the play by play for the 1st 2 weeks it's somewhat inconclusive. There is no doubt, however, that during Maroney's series he's been pulled for TD's in each of the 1st two games. And one was on a 4th and 1 from the 3 - pretty critical. I believe that BB has more confidence in both Evans AND Morris in short yardage than Maroney. Nothing he has done this year has shown otherwise.Game 1 vs. Jets

2-5-NYJ 5 (1:21) 39-L.Maroney right guard to NYJ 5 for no gain (51-J.Vilma, 93-K.Coleman).

1-1-NYJ 1 (2:38) 44-H.Evans right guard to NYJ 1 for no gain (63-D.Robertson). New England challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was Upheld. (Timeout #2.)

Two-Minute Warning

2-1-NYJ 1 (2:00) #50 Vrabel and #55 Seau report as eligible. 44-H.Evans right tackle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN. (This was Maroney's series - so he was pulled in the goal line situation)

Game 2 vs. Chargers

3-3-SD 5 (4:03) 39-L.Maroney up the middle to SD 3 for 2 yards (54-S.Cooper, 93-L.Castillo).

4-1-SD 3 (3:18) 34-S.Morris left guard for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

 

[Shiggy Shaol]

Followup to my earlier post in this thread:

I traded Chris Brown and Cotchery for Maroney about 5 minutes ago.

The guy liked the offer when I first made it this morning, thought about it for a few hours and then pulled the trigger. As I mentioned earlier, it's pretty much a no risk for me in that Brown's my 4th RB and Cotchery's my 4th WR.

Again, this is not a rate my trade post. Just a little snippet that shows how some Maroney owners were valuing him.

 

[mozzy84]

Followup to my earlier post in this thread:I traded Chris Brown and Cotchery for Maroney about 5 minutes ago.The guy liked the offer when I first made it this morning, thought about it for a few hours and then pulled the trigger. As I mentioned earlier, it's pretty much a no risk for me in that Brown's my 4th RB and Cotchery's my 4th WR.Again, this is not a rate my trade post. Just a little snippet that shows how some Maroney owners were valuing him.

maroney is going to have a nice game this weekend and that guy is going to be kicking himself.

 

[Bossman]

Followup to my earlier post in this thread:

I traded Chris Brown and Cotchery for Maroney about 5 minutes ago.

The guy liked the offer when I first made it this morning, thought about it for a few hours and then pulled the trigger. As I mentioned earlier, it's pretty much a no risk for me in that Brown's my 4th RB and Cotchery's my 4th WR.

Again, this is not a rate my trade post. Just a little snippet that shows how some Maroney owners were valuing him.

theif....

 

[KellysHeroes]

I understand everyones frustration... but in a way; this all makes sense. Not many 2nd yr backs get a full load, its not good for them; plus Maroney is only 22 yrs old, hes still a baby... Maroney will get GLs; not all of them ofcourse... but he was effective last yr at the GL, no reason to think he won't be again. Take the SD game; Maroney rushed 8 times for 50 yds in that TD Drive (2 of them did not count because SD was offsides)... so I think he was a little tired

Look at the way Indy use Addai, yeah hes racking up the Stats and is a Fantasy Stud; but dynasty wise.. aren't you a little concerned about is career. I mean at this rate, how many solid season are you going to get out of Addai?

Addai is on pace to touch the ball 384 times this season (I'm counting recs).. that is a HUGE workload for a 2nd yr Back.

Maroney is still on pace for 280 touches and 1200 yds; thats a perfect count IMO for such a young player. Plus, we don't even know if hes 100% yet.

Dynasty wise.. you just have to roll with this RBBC for now... Maroney will be Fantasy Stud.

 

[Shiggy Shaol]

Followup to my earlier post in this thread:

I traded Chris Brown and Cotchery for Maroney about 5 minutes ago.

The guy liked the offer when I first made it this morning, thought about it for a few hours and then pulled the trigger. As I mentioned earlier, it's pretty much a no risk for me in that Brown's my 4th RB and Cotchery's my 4th WR.

Again, this is not a rate my trade post. Just a little snippet that shows how some Maroney owners were valuing him.

theif....

The owner was 0-2, had Lendale on his roster, and his 2nd best WR was Vincent Jackson. It was the perfect storm!Now I will be smart and NOT sell Maroney low.

 

[ImTheScientist]

After reading all the posts in this thread, I'm not quite understanding what your position is here. Are you saying Maroney will eventually receive 25+ carries a game once BB is done working him in? Also, I don't think anyone is saying that Morris is MORE talented than Maroney... it's not a stretch to say that Morris actually does have some talent and purpose in NE's offense (if not as a running back in general). You're right in saying that the cream rises to the top, but that doesn't necessarily translate into becoming a workhorse RB.

Once everyone comes to terms with the fact that Maroney is not BB's workhorse back who will receive 25-30 carries a game, we can talk about what's disappointing most of his owners... although Maroney's shown flashes in both games this year, he's not making the most of the touches he's receiving (unlike his former college teammate in Dallas, who Maroney owners probably look at with jealousy and disgust)... I think it's too early to start panicking, but if you drafted Maroney with your sites set on 350 carries, you will come away from the season being disappointed.

I don't think 325-350 carries is out of the question. He will be used more as the season goes on. I also think Morris will have "a role" although it will slowly diminish as the season wears on. I also think Maroney will be used more in the passing game. I consider anything over 300 carries to be "a work horse" RB. Last year only 10 RB's had over 300 carries and 8 of those 10 finished in the top 12 (thats all anyone can ask of a RB selected late first to early second and anything more would be great). Only 1 RB had more than 350 carries last year so if that is your definition of a "work horse RB" then there is only 1 in the league based off last year. I think Maroney finishes Top 10. Is there anything else about my position on Maroney I can clarify?

 

[Gopher State]

Some in this post have stated that Morris will be like Dillon of last year, I agreed this is how it is looking to play out.

Some of said Morris has not done well in the past, well to that I answer NE makes average players look great with their system and talent.

I can see Morris getting 9 td's this year, and being a nice bye week fill in for FF teams.

With Maroney coming back from the injury he had last year, it seems like the right move to pull him at the goal line. Maroney will have a nice year, just lower the td totals.

 

[David Yudkin]

Some in this post have stated that Morris will be like Dillon of last year, I agreed this is how it is looking to play out.Some of said Morris has not done well in the past, well to that I answer NE makes average players look great with their system and talent.I can see Morris getting 9 td's this year, and being a nice bye week fill in for FF teams.With Maroney coming back from the injury he had last year, it seems like the right move to pull him at the goal line. Maroney will have a nice year, just lower the td totals.

The fact of the matter is that we don't really know what the Pats will do at the goal line. They've had the ball there twice and both time they scored it was late in the game and the TD meant nothing and were scored by Evans and Morris. So to conclude what their approach will be say in a tight game in the seocnd quarter from that would be nearly impossible.Maybe they will give Morris a lot of work, but 8 years in I doubt he is a 5.0 ypc back. As I've said several times, I suspect Maroney will get more of the important carries as the year rolls on, but I DO NOT think he will start getting more than 15-20 carries a game. Maroney also was not a big contributor near the goal line last year, as IIRC he only had 7 carries inside the 5 yard line. Even not seeing a ton of goal line looks, he managed 7 total TD. I still think that he will get near 10 total TD, but he obviously will need to start getting the ball closer to the end zone for that to happen. Those that wanted to slot him for 15-20 TD this year by giving him what Dillon got too were nuts, but to each his own I guess.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I couldn't disagree more with the majority of these postings. I have been VERY impressed by his vision/running. There is no way this turns into a Dallas situation because he is more talented......by far. I think there is a lot of early season overreaction going on here. Come back week 7 or 8 and this conversation about Sammy Morris will be

 

[ceo3west]

I couldn't disagree more with the majority of these postings. I have been VERY impressed by his vision/running. There is no way this turns into a Dallas situation because he is more talented......by far. I think there is a lot of early season overreaction going on here. Come back week 7 or 8 and this conversation about Sammy Morris will be

Bumping this is ridiculous. Barring a catostrophic injury to Morris you'd still be crying about how he's eating into Maroney's time. And even with Morris out of the picture, Maroney will still be limited getting between 15-20 touches per game. Last time I checked, it's week 9 and Maroney has zero TD's and 2 receptions. Some stud. Good luck with him.

 

[Sputnikv8]

Maroney owner here, and this was a shameless bump of your own post. Bad form.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Calvin Johnson owner here. Told you so.

There were a lot of other posts about how great Morris is...or should I say was this year and even suggested he was better than Maroney

 

[ceo3west]

Calvin Johnson owner here. Told you so. There were a lot of other posts about how great Morris is...or should I say was this year and even suggested he was better than Maroney

I don't think anyone claimed Morris was better than Maroney. But what was claimed was that Morris and Maroney were splitting time, and regardless of who the second back is, Maroney is not a workhorse and is fragile. That hasn't changed.

 

[gethugefast1]

Uh...

Rotoworld: Patriots end RB Sammy Morris' season

Patriots placed RB Sammy Morris on injured reserve, ending his season.

The Pats would only say Morris had a "chest" injury. A free agent signee from Miami, Morris was perfect as a pace change for Laurence Maroney, and a great short-yardage option. He'll be back next season, but it's a big loss for their running game. FB Heath Evans and third-down specialist Kevin Faulk will remain active moving forward. Nov. 2 - 3:59 pm et

Source: Boston Globe

 

[Ryan_21]

Calvin Johnson owner here. Told you so. There were a lot of other posts about how great Morris is...or should I say was this year and even suggested he was better than Maroney

I don't think anyone claimed Morris was better than Maroney. But what was claimed was that Morris and Maroney were splitting time, and regardless of who the second back is, Maroney is not a workhorse and is fragile. That hasn't changed.

I like how Maroney is the fragile one, but Morris is the one on IR with a caved in chest.

 

[Gopher State]

Patriots | Dillon willing to return to team

Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:45:43 -0700

John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports free-agent RB Corey Dillon (Patriots) would be willing to return to the New England Patriots, according to his agent Steven Feldman. "He would absolutely, positively be interested in coming back to play for the Patriots," Feldman said. "When [RB] Sammy Morris got injured, he kind of got an inkling, he got the idea something may happen down the road. So he started working out a couple weeks ago to get in shape so that if an opportunity presented itself, he'd be ready to take advantage of it.

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If this plays out, it be interesting to see what it does to LM playing time.

 

[Max Power]

I was not impressed with how Maroney played or with how he was used. That is not a good combo.

 

[ceo3west]

I was not impressed with how Maroney played or with how he was used. That is not a good combo.

I see Maroney is really taking advantage of Morris' absence.

 

[cmv5]

I was not impressed with how Maroney played or with how he was used. That is not a good combo.

I see Maroney is really taking advantage of Morris' absence.

I have tried to be patient with how New England uses Maroney but forget it. He is next to useless. They pull him if the score is out of control and they pull him if the score is close. He will remain on my bench and will not leave unless Faulk, Heath Evans, and Corey Dillon, yes even unsigned Corey Dillon, is injured.

 

[tech]

I was not impressed with how Maroney played or with how he was used. That is not a good combo.

I see Maroney is really taking advantage of Morris' absence.

I have tried to be patient with how New England uses Maroney but forget it. He is next to useless. They pull him if the score is out of control and they pull him if the score is close. He will remain on my bench and will not leave unless Faulk, Heath Evans, and Corey Dillon, yes even unsigned Corey Dillon, is injured.

I agree. First time I've been able to watch Maroney in a while. I thought he looked really good in the 1st half. He must be hurt, or Belicheat must really hate this guy.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I was not impressed with how Maroney played or with how he was used. That is not a good combo.

I can see being unimpressed with how he was used....but how can you be disappointed with his play? He had 9 carries for 48 yards in the 1st half, and he looked great. The announcers even mentioned that he looked powerful and explosive.

 

[murzman]

I'm not sure why NE abandoned the run in the 2nd half. Maroney was doing well moving the chains. It seems like NE tried to have a balanced offense for this game and did so in the first. Then in the 2nd half, when they were down, even only by 1 score, said to heck with it and just started passing out of the shotgun for the rest of the game. Thus Faulk ended up getting a lot of snaps in teh 2nd half. Reminds me of playing video game football... easy to lose patience running the ball - you just want to score right away.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I was not impressed with how Maroney played or with how he was used. That is not a good combo.

I see Maroney is really taking advantage of Morris' absence.

Says the bitter Morris owner

 

[Max Power]

I was not impressed with how Maroney played or with how he was used. That is not a good combo.

I can see being unimpressed with how he was used....but how can you be disappointed with his play? He had 9 carries for 48 yards in the 1st half, and he looked great. The announcers even mentioned that he looked powerful and explosive.

Sure in the first half he looked decent. Then in the second he was 6 carries for 11 yards. When he runs hard and hits the hole, I have no issues with how he plays. However when he uses that hop style that Addai uses, he doesnt gain much. Maroney is a good player. As a Bears fan, I would love to have him over Benson right now. However Fantasy wise, this guy should not be ranked in the top 25 until he can top 100 and grab a TD.

 

[Sputnikv8]

They are winning their games. I really WANT to like Maroney, but, right now they don't "need" him. After watching him I know he is a good runner, he's just not in a good situation right now. There is no way I can keep him in my lineup and get less than 10 points per game.

:sigh:

 

[urbanhack]

i'm done with him unless he gets hot and gets a lot of carries down the stretch.

5 points just doesn't cut it.

 

[Fantasy Fix Fred]

As a non maroney owner, I've been saying he has been a useless Fantasy RB for numerous weeks. NE is a passing team that rotates their RBs. That isnt gonna change and why should they their 9-0. Maroney is a stud but wasted talent on NE, imo.