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The on again, off again saga in Detriot is on again. Still not sure if it is a good or bad thing for them... someone there has obviously been 
during this whole deal.
Glad that it finally got done and can't wait to see what Martz can do with those guys. He's a great OC that was just not suited to be a HC.
My early money is on Orlovsky to be Martz's annoited guy next fall, not Harrington. Dan has the arm, the accuracy, and the tools to do well under Martz's tutelage.do we know for a fact they weren't being too cheap before... & that is why he wasn't hired... UNTIL NOW.
i haven't seen any contract figures yet...
any way... good hire by the lions... i have harrington in a dynasty league, & would like nothing more than for martz to turn his career around (or maybe they draft cutler or bring in a free agent better than garcia?)... it would seem like martz should be able to design an offense that can better utilize the talents of KJ, roy & mike williams & rogers (if he stays)...
and you think this why? what "tools" does the 5th round draft pick have? what accuracy are you talking about? you are such a talking head it's unbelievable.My early money is on Orlovsky to be Martz's annoited guy next fall, not Harrington. Dan has the arm, the accuracy, and the tools to do well under Martz's tutelage.do we know for a fact they weren't being too cheap before... & that is why he wasn't hired... UNTIL NOW.
i haven't seen any contract figures yet...
any way... good hire by the lions... i have harrington in a dynasty league, & would like nothing more than for martz to turn his career around (or maybe they draft cutler or bring in a free agent better than garcia?)... it would seem like martz should be able to design an offense that can better utilize the talents of KJ, roy & mike williams & rogers (if he stays)...
I agree and I think this is a great marriage for both teams. I think Marinelli and Martz has this team in the playoffs this year.Glad that it finally got done and can't wait to see what Martz can do with those guys. He's a great OC that was just not suited to be a HC.
With Martz' offense, they'll need more QB's than Harrington and Orlovsky.My early money is on Orlovsky to be Martz's annoited guy next fall, not Harrington. Dan has the arm, the accuracy, and the tools to do well under Martz's tutelage.do we know for a fact they weren't being too cheap before... & that is why he wasn't hired... UNTIL NOW.
i haven't seen any contract figures yet...
any way... good hire by the lions... i have harrington in a dynasty league, & would like nothing more than for martz to turn his career around (or maybe they draft cutler or bring in a free agent better than garcia?)... it would seem like martz should be able to design an offense that can better utilize the talents of KJ, roy & mike williams & rogers (if he stays)...
THE blowhard is the same guy who clamors for the back-up goalie and says Darko should be playing.With Martz' offense, they'll need more QB's than Harrington and Orlovsky.My early money is on Orlovsky to be Martz's annoited guy next fall, not Harrington. Dan has the arm, the accuracy, and the tools to do well under Martz's tutelage.do we know for a fact they weren't being too cheap before... & that is why he wasn't hired... UNTIL NOW.
i haven't seen any contract figures yet...
any way... good hire by the lions... i have harrington in a dynasty league, & would like nothing more than for martz to turn his career around (or maybe they draft cutler or bring in a free agent better than garcia?)... it would seem like martz should be able to design an offense that can better utilize the talents of KJ, roy & mike williams & rogers (if he stays)...
orlovsky was more highly regarded than ryan fitzpatrick, & fitz showed some promise late in the season...i'm guessing there will be some pressure to, if not win, at least be competitive right away... which might not make an inexperienced guy coming off his rookie season a good fit... of course, if he looks better in mini-camps, training camp & pre-season, all bets could be off.My early money is on Orlovsky to be Martz's annoited guy next fall, not Harrington. Dan has the arm, the accuracy, and the tools to do well under Martz's tutelage.do we know for a fact they weren't being too cheap before... & that is why he wasn't hired... UNTIL NOW.
i haven't seen any contract figures yet...
any way... good hire by the lions... i have harrington in a dynasty league, & would like nothing more than for martz to turn his career around (or maybe they draft cutler or bring in a free agent better than garcia?)... it would seem like martz should be able to design an offense that can better utilize the talents of KJ, roy & mike williams & rogers (if he stays)...
I don't know if it can actually fall lower after his pathetic performance this past season. I do agree though that Martz hardly gets the most out of his running backs and especially so when they do not excel in the receiving game. Kevin Jones should definitely be ranked outside of the top fifteen in 2006.
Remember what a joke the Rams were before Vermeil and Martz got them back on the right track....I beleive the saying was....."Different season, same old crappy Rams."
There are no certainties. On the other hand, you dismissing Orvlovsky because he obviously sucks because all sucky qbs obviously don't get drafted until the 5th round or later is, well, idiotic. Not sure why the Martz hire has got your dander up. A bear fan maybe? Viking? Oh, I'm sorry: you're a cheesehead. Now I do feel really, really bad for you.THE blowhard is the same guy who clamors for the back-up goalie and says Darko should be playing.With Martz' offense, they'll need more QB's than Harrington and Orlovsky.My early money is on Orlovsky to be Martz's annoited guy next fall, not Harrington. Dan has the arm, the accuracy, and the tools to do well under Martz's tutelage.do we know for a fact they weren't being too cheap before... & that is why he wasn't hired... UNTIL NOW.
i haven't seen any contract figures yet...
any way... good hire by the lions... i have harrington in a dynasty league, & would like nothing more than for martz to turn his career around (or maybe they draft cutler or bring in a free agent better than garcia?)... it would seem like martz should be able to design an offense that can better utilize the talents of KJ, roy & mike williams & rogers (if he stays)...
Havent we been saying that about Harrington for a couple of years now? I think Martz is just what he needs though. He may end up living up to his potential now. It always looked like they were asking him to do things he wasn't good at. I may be wrong but that is what it looked like to me. Martz has a way with QB's and receivers. I know Roy Williams just jumped up my draft board a few notches.
True. But the coaching staff looks pretty solid right now: Marinelli, Martz, Henderson...they got Beightol (sp?) for o-line coach. Montgomery came over from the Rams to coach rbs.That's a fine-looking staff.
remind us when he has ever turned it on. It hasn't been during the last three years of draft prep, on draft day, or when deciding when to hire and fire people. I think it is always off.
There are no certainties. On the other hand, you dismissing Orvlovsky because he obviously sucks because all sucky qbs obviously don't get drafted until the 5th round or later is, well, idiotic. Not sure why the Martz hire has got your dander up. A bear fan maybe? Viking? Oh, I'm sorry: you're a cheesehead. Now I do feel really, really bad for you.THE blowhard is the same guy who clamors for the back-up goalie and says Darko should be playing.With Martz' offense, they'll need more QB's than Harrington and Orlovsky.My early money is on Orlovsky to be Martz's annoited guy next fall, not Harrington. Dan has the arm, the accuracy, and the tools to do well under Martz's tutelage.do we know for a fact they weren't being too cheap before... & that is why he wasn't hired... UNTIL NOW.
i haven't seen any contract figures yet...
any way... good hire by the lions... i have harrington in a dynasty league, & would like nothing more than for martz to turn his career around (or maybe they draft cutler or bring in a free agent better than garcia?)... it would seem like martz should be able to design an offense that can better utilize the talents of KJ, roy & mike williams & rogers (if he stays)...
at bts being called a cheesehead. bts is the same guy who said Mariucci wouldn't work out in Detroit.So that guarantees this isn't going to work too?
If they existed, I would also reference the "Lions hire Bobby Ross", "Lions acquire Pat Swilling", "Lions win the Scott Mitchell sweepstakes" and "Lions sign Damian Woody" threads.I'm only saying, it's the Lions, and just when you think they're turning the corner and when they've made what's seen as a positive move, something backfires. Essentially, history indicates it's as close to a sure thing of not working as you can get.
I guess they're not too cheap, they just like making everything look like a soap opera. It makes them look so smart, and so competent.Glad that it finally got done and can't wait to see what Martz can do with those guys. He's a great OC that was just not suited to be a HC.
This is somewhat reassuring. I'm skeptical about Martz as the Lions' OC. I fear he has an outsized personality for a subordinate role, and I was expecting to hear of clashes between him and Marinelli if he got the job. If he defers to the head coach and concentrates on developing his offensive weapons instead of glorifying himself, this could be a beneficial move for the team as a whole.I'm still not sold, though. What were the whispers coming out of St. Louis about? I thought I heard about Martz aggravating the Rams management with things he said or did. Was there any fire behind the smoke signals?
Mike's a guy that has to show me first (as with a lot of Lions). But PFW said that Mike Williams was one of the first guys Marinelli talked with after taking the Lion gig. The rumor is that Marinelli believes he can make Mike "go" and that he can be a starter next year.Hey, Marinelli didn't contact Joey...but he immediately called Mike Williams.
I have participated and been to hundreds of football games...high school; college and professional. I have seen hundreds of players warm-up and prepare. I caught Williams' act at two Lions games, v. Cowobys & v. Saints, this season. My immediate thought...I have never seen a player half ### pregame or the game itself like he did. It was laughable. This coming from a life long Lions fan and BMW dynasty owner. Marinelli has his hands full with that one. It is still early enough to get the kid on track but seriously, Willliams, grow up. Marinelli needs to remind Williams he is roughly 2-3 years removed from his days at USC; set down the press clippings and get into the film/weight room; start taking better care of his diet/body and learn what an alarm clock and or watch is and how to use it. Perception being reality...Williams needs a biblical, end of the world, apocalyptic sized fire lit under his ### and a person like Marinelli stoking it constantly. As far as Martz, I love the hire. Very mutually exclusive arrangement that should serve both Martz and the team well.
