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ahem............Expect Martz to turn down the Detroit job. Will be shocked if he takes it. I think he is still up in the air in his mind what he wants to do. He really needs to take a year off and let his head clear, and his health improve as well IMO. The man is a competitor though, and that just may draw him back in.
That's what was being reported. No need to try to imply otherwise. When I first posted it, I labeled it as a rumor and changed it when it was being reported a done deal when many media networks reported it as such. I posted in the thread that the most recent update was that ESPN jumped the gun and forgot to change the title. For anything misleading, I apologize.I have no problem with the new thread being started as I'm too ticked off at how the Lions messed up this hire and argue over some pissing match of who's thread should be first, etc.
From what I've heard, the Lions offered Martz 800,000, I mean even Mike Tice got 1.1 mil from the Jags. I don't blame Martz a bit, he said he'd take the job, then got lowballed. If I was Martz, I would simple sit out the year and maybe see where the new CBA is headed, then pick and choose where I wanted to go.
Yeah, that's why they're paying Mooch Nearly $15 million to sit on his ### the next two years. Thanks for sharing, though. Bet it felt good, eh?
Yeah, that's why they're paying Mooch Nearly $15 million to sit on his ### the next two years.
Hmm...new information this morning seems to indicate Marinelli killed the deal because he didn't like what he heard abou Martz from his St Louis sources.If so, it might be for the better.
Yeah, and who else had a shot at Martz as OC this offseason? Who? Green Bay? Minny? The Texans? Who? No one. He only seriously considered the Lions in that capacity. Step away from the ledge: Marinelli killed the deal.
Teams like Miami and Washington are "with the program"? Both of those inept franchises routinely picked AHEAD of the Lions in the draft in recent history prior to this year. Please don't haul out psycho Danny Boy's franchise--and the long-inept Miiami franchise--as model franchises.teams like MIA & WAS are with the program... there is no salary cap for coaches... they have among highest or highest payrolls in coaching... why not get & pay for the best when it can DIRECTLY translate to upgrading the product on the field... in a league characterized by parity... it is one of the few places savvy teams can leverage an edge...
the lions have tens of millions of dollars invested in key players... what if martz could have helped unlock some of that latent value...
but instead they pass, when the difference for the ford heir/s was probably the equivalent of about 20 or so crown victoria's... wonder how many of those get sold nationwide... every FEW MINUTES...
When it's been almost 50 years since your team won a championship, you'd be sensitive too.
Well, my team lost 4 Super Bowls in a row and just hired a retread coach and I'm not THAT sensitive.
It now seems to be pointing in the direction of Marinelli killing the deal due to some questionable aspects about Martz. If that's the case, I can live with it. If it turns out to be anything about money, as long as he was being offered less than the head coach, I will be upset and feel the Lions blew this deal...
Well, we've never even been to the big dance, so we reserve the right...Well, my team lost 4 Super Bowls in a row and just hired a retread coach and I'm not THAT sensitive.
True. At least we were the 2nd best team 4 times. I can console myself with that.Well, we've never even been to the big dance, so we reserve the right...Well, my team lost 4 Super Bowls in a row and just hired a retread coach and I'm not THAT sensitive.
don't laugh TOO hard... you still have laughing stock millen as GM... this reminds me of the movie in which bill murray robbed a bank in a clown outfit, & was asked... what kind of clown are you?a cryin on the inside kind of clown.Teams like Miami and Washington are "with the program"? Both of those inept franchises routinely picked AHEAD of the Lions in the draft in recent history prior to this year. Please don't haul out psycho Danny Boy's franchise--and the long-inept Miiami franchise--as model franchises.teams like MIA & WAS are with the program... there is no salary cap for coaches... they have among highest or highest payrolls in coaching... why not get & pay for the best when it can DIRECTLY translate to upgrading the product on the field... in a league characterized by parity... it is one of the few places savvy teams can leverage an edge...
the lions have tens of millions of dollars invested in key players... what if martz could have helped unlock some of that latent value...
but instead they pass, when the difference for the ford heir/s was probably the equivalent of about 20 or so crown victoria's... wonder how many of those get sold nationwide... every FEW MINUTES...
i wasn't making a claim that WAS & MIA have always & continually been well run. we could cut to the chase... would you rather have SD OL coach hudson houck in DET or not?not to get myself hooked and the threat hijacked too much, but this is an overrated story imo. faulk had over 20 touches in the game and was on pace for more through 3 quarters, but as you can imagine being down 2 TDs the rams started throwing the ball more. in fact, this is actually when the rams were finally successful in putting points on the board. maybe you would have liked to see a few more running plays, but this seems more like the kind of argument you would make a bit less strongly.imo this is a good move by martz. the flipside of the argument that martz could really help his stock if he turned around the sad sack lions' O is that there's also a good chance he's set up for failure and may condemn himself to never getting another HC job again (that might have been OK, though, given his health).who do the lions look to now?
yeah, they've done terrible so far this year.
Rumors are Hue Jackson (WR Coach for Cincy) or Tom Rossely (former OC for Packers)...If it's down to these two, I hope it's Jackson for the simple reason that didn't Sherman take play-calling away from Rossely last year or the year before... It's not like the Pack had a scary offense.
no way this was about money...the fords spend like crazy....seems to me this was probably less about the guy who had the #1 offense and more about the guy who was calling the box to try and call plays when he wasn't the coach anymore.
no way this was about money...the fords spend like crazy....seems to me this was probably less about the guy who had the #1 offense and more about the guy who was calling the box to try and call plays when he wasn't the coach anymore.
When the guy says it was about money, I'll take his word for it. And yes, the Lions have done a terrible job in almost every phase of the game for the last decade. Would you care to disagree?Last decade? Change it to "the last five years" and i'll agree with you. Ten years ago the Lions had the most potent offense in football and Scott friggin Mitchell was tossing 34(ish) tds and the Lions were routinely making the playoffs. Don't get too carried away with the timeline.
no way this was about money...the fords spend like crazy....seems to me this was probably less about the guy who had the #1 offense and more about the guy who was calling the box to try and call plays when he wasn't the coach anymore.
I mean hire a friggin' MINORITY CANDIDATE already, if you have no clue what youre doing anyway. And this is an ITALIAN speaking. This would have been the perfect time for Millen to step outside the box and bring in someone of color who could possibly turn this thing around. Or does noone think thats possible?? Nothing against the guy's name you see....or the guy....just the guy running the team.
