Mass shooting in Lewiston, Maine (1 Viewer)

[beer 30]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

 

[TLEF316]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

 

[Todem]

How long this is going with no sightings/leads, I think he killed himself somewhere secluded.

We can only hope.

 

[beer 30]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

Yea that's it, just heard it discussed on a podcast this week talking about the border and army intervention. It's gray so they could probably swing some involvement but honestly, I know folks are saying Maine can't handle it themselves but there are no better folks for the job than the ones who live there. They know that area and employ local help for tracking in the woods. If this guy did go to ground, your best bet of finding him are the locals. Especially if the land is as harsh as being illustrated in this thread.

 

[General Malaise]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

OK, but can we maybe get some police force other than Chief Wiggums crew looking for this guy? How has he eluded capture this long?

 

[SWC]

With everyone seemingly owning guns to protect themselves, have any of these shootings had people shooting back? Honest question I dont know the answer to, but you'd think with all the mass shootings, someone would've shot back by now.

Again walking a line here, but if you go to a certain network's website that rhymes with Mox News, there are weekly stories about good guy/gal with a gun stopping a violent crime or defending themselves. If accurate, it happens somewhat frequently.

These are never covered by other MSM outlets because it would fly in the face of the narrative they wish to advance.

Violent crime is down 50% from 1990. That's the data - that's 100% facts. Is your MSM outlet continuing to report that fact, or are they beating you over the head with anecdotes?

If violent crime is down 50%, then no need to enact gun laws. Things are trending in the right direction as they are

most americans are keenly aware that gun violence is a problem and to that end 88 percent of americans favor preventing people with mental illness from obtaining guns 79 percent of americans favor raising the age to purchase a gun to 21 and 66 percent of americans favor banning high capacity magazines and 64 percent of americans favor banning assault weapons but guess what the nra lobby and minority rule politics brought to you by gerrymandering mean that instead of getting what the people actually want and fixing a problem most americans acknowlege exists we get what the bought and paid for minority wants its ridiculous and every american should honestly be mad about it take that to the bank bromigos

 

[IvanKaramazov]

OK, but can we maybe get some police force other than Chief Wiggums crew looking for this guy? How has he eluded capture this long?

Eric Rudolph lived in the woods in Appalachia for five years. He was on the FBI's most wanted list the entire time, and he only got caught because some random person saw him picking food out of a dumpster.

Obviously that case was an outlier and I don't know that there's any reason to think that this guy has the same outdoorsman abilities or general intelligence to pull off something like that, but it's apparently possible to disappear in the woods for a very long time if a person knows what he's doing.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

OK, but can we maybe get some police force other than Chief Wiggums crew looking for this guy? How has he eluded capture this long?

They've been busy following up on screaming goats leads. Not making that up.

 

[General Malaise]

OK, but can we maybe get some police force other than Chief Wiggums crew looking for this guy? How has he eluded capture this long?

Eric Rudolph lived in the woods in Appalachia for five years. He was on the FBI's most wanted list the entire time, and he only got caught because some random person saw him picking food out of a dumpster.

Obviously that case was an outlier and I don't know that there's any reason to think that this guy has the same outdoorsman abilities or general intelligence to pull off something like that, but it's apparently possible to disappear in the woods for a very long time if a person knows what he's doing.

Yeah, but he had quite a head start in hiding and was aided and abetted by his family. Shouldn't the dogs have this guy's fresh scent to pick up? They've known who it was and who to look for since it happened.

 

[fantasy stud]

If anybody tells me they’re going to shoot anyone I’m not stopping until I’ve done everything to get that person help, locked up or both. I’m not releasing them under any circumstance.

Who made the decision to let him go? Blood is directly on their hands.

Yea this is the issue in our country. It's not the guns.

We lack common sense in our decisions as a society. We allow people access who should not have access......example, we had a perv teacher in our district moved around, tried to brush it under the rug......well now some kids are bringing a civil suit against him, **** is hitting the fan! No one wants to make the tough decision that is right......it's like when a parent doesn't do the tough thing with their kid on the front end......it becomes so much worse on the back end.

Our society is sick. We have people who don't want to work. Drugs are more accessible then they've ever been. We are allowing people who have bad intent to run rampant. We have lost our way, and I don't see it getting better.

Agree and both political parties don't care about fixing it. They use all the problems to blame the other side.

 

[Phil Elliott]

How long this is going with no sightings/leads, I think he killed himself somewhere secluded.

Hopefully not a Honda...last night it was reported on several stations, a note to his son inferring suicide has reportedly been found but details of the note have not been released.

 

[the moops]

He was talking about his co-faculty peers. Adult adults.

Wait.... what??

Increasing numbers of people are lacking the coping skills to lead adult lives. This should be readily apparent.

I think plenty of people lacked coping skills it just wasn't kosher to discuss the fact that sometimes **** is hard

 

[BeTheMatch]

How long this is going with no sightings/leads, I think he killed himself somewhere secluded.

Hopefully not a Honda...last night it was reported on several stations, a note to his son inferring suicide has reportedly been found but details of the note have not been released.

Don't see it as a suicide note at all. See it as a goodbye. Obviously it could come to that, or likely he'll get killed. But makes no sense to me that he'd go off into the woods to kill himself.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

OK, but can we maybe get some police force other than Chief Wiggums crew looking for this guy? How has he eluded capture this long?

Eric Rudolph lived in the woods in Appalachia for five years. He was on the FBI's most wanted list the entire time, and he only got caught because some random person saw him picking food out of a dumpster.

Obviously that case was an outlier and I don't know that there's any reason to think that this guy has the same outdoorsman abilities or general intelligence to pull off something like that, but it's apparently possible to disappear in the woods for a very long time if a person knows what he's doing.

Yeah, but he had quite a head start in hiding and was aided and abetted by his family. Shouldn't the dogs have this guy's fresh scent to pick up? They've known who it was and who to look for since it happened.

I know exactly zero about this, but if the guy hopped in a boat and could be anywhere several hundred miles in any direction part of which was traveled on the water is there anything for the dogs to pick up on? I figured dogs were more of a "he ran into the woods right there 3 hours ago and he's somewhere within 5-10 miles of that direction" kinda thing.

 

[3C's]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

OK, but can we maybe get some police force other than Chief Wiggums crew looking for this guy? How has he eluded capture this long?

There's something like 80 FBI agents involved.

 

[Phil Elliott]

How long this is going with no sightings/leads, I think he killed himself somewhere secluded.

Hopefully not a Honda...last night it was reported on several stations, a note to his son inferring suicide has reportedly been found but details of the note have not been released.

Don't see it as a suicide note at all. See it as a goodbye. Obviously it could come to that, or likely he'll get killed. But makes no sense to me that he'd go off into the woods to kill himself.

Not sure common sense is a factor.

 

[General Malaise]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

OK, but can we maybe get some police force other than Chief Wiggums crew looking for this guy? How has he eluded capture this long?

There's something like 80 FBI agents involved.

I want the Delta force. A-team, Boba Fett and Dog the Bounty Hunter. Get this guy and string him up by his giblets.

 

[Ilov80s]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

OK, but can we maybe get some police force other than Chief Wiggums crew looking for this guy? How has he eluded capture this long?

There's something like 80 FBI agents involved.

I want the Delta force. A-team, Boba Fett and Dog the Bounty Hunter. Get this guy and string him up by his giblets.

Give his name to the T1000 too

 

[3C's]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

OK, but can we maybe get some police force other than Chief Wiggums crew looking for this guy? How has he eluded capture this long?

There's something like 80 FBI agents involved.

I want the Delta force. A-team, Boba Fett and Dog the Bounty Hunter. Get this guy and string him up by his giblets.

All in for this guy. https://img.asmedia.epimg.net/resiz...g.com/diarioas/OB2OVRKETNGS3KIGW35Z5WZOWU.jpg

 

[beer 30]

I want the Delta force. A-team, Boba Fett and Dog the Bounty Hunter. Get this guy and string him up by his giblets.

Certainly them but also, according to the podcast I'm listening to now, invite BORTAC. It's one of the things they do. They are the Tier 1 portion of Border Patrol that track & interdict just these types.

Learning a lot this week.

 

[massraider]

Not sure common sense is a factor

Yeah

 

[Doug B]

I want the Delta force. A-team, Boba Fett and Dog the Bounty Hunter. Get this guy and string him up by his giblets

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[CGRdrJoe]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

it's why we (the coast guard) remain in DHS and not DOD so that we can patrol the waters of the US and it's territories and when we board people it's not an act of war.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

it's why we (the coast guard) remain in DHS and not DOD so that we can patrol the waters of the US and it's territories and when we board people it's not an act of war.

That's quite interesting.

 

[General Malaise]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

it's why we (the coast guard) remain in DHS and not DOD so that we can patrol the waters of the US and it's territories and when we board people it's not an act of war.

GO GET THIS GUY JOE!!!!!

 

[beer 30]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

it's why we (the coast guard) remain in DHS and not DOD so that we can patrol the waters of the US and it's territories and when we board people it's not an act of war.

GO GET THIS GUY JOE!!!!!

Yea!!! He's supposedly on the water GO GO GO!!!

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

it's why we (the coast guard) remain in DHS and not DOD so that we can patrol the waters of the US and it's territories and when we board people it's not an act of war.

GO GET THIS GUY JOE!!!!!

I have golf and drinks in my future, that **** is for the young people who don't hurt their backs when they sneeze....

 

[HellToupee]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

it's why we (the coast guard) remain in DHS and not DOD so that we can patrol the waters of the US and it's territories and when we board people it's not an act of war.

GO GET THIS GUY JOE!!!!!

Yea!!! He's supposedly on the water GO GO GO!!!

Looking like he’s in the water

 

[Doug B]

Looking like he’s in the water

1) Any evidence that he took some kind of watercraft into the water (river, ocean, whatever)?

2) Any chance that Card may have committed suicide out on the water? Basically, he just fell in? Probably intentionally so he’d never be found (or so his thinking might have gone)?

 

[BeTheMatch]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

it's why we (the coast guard) remain in DHS and not DOD so that we can patrol the waters of the US and it's territories and when we board people it's not an act of war.

GO GET THIS GUY JOE!!!!!

Yea!!! He's supposedly on the water GO GO GO!!!

Looking like he’s in the water

Based on what? They're searching anywhere they can think of. I don't think they have any idea.

 

[HellToupee]

Just send in the DEVGRU or Delta guys and be done with it.

Not 100% but pretty sure this illegal. Armed forces can be used for law enforcement but there are some very stringent guidelines in place that have to be followed before they can get involved.

Hmm....learn something new every day. Apparently there's something called the Posse Comitatus act that does indeed prevent federal law enforcement from participating in civilian "police" acts (National guard is generally exempt because they report to the state governors)

Now, obviously these tier one operators are often sent to places they're not technically supposed to be, but still.....that's probably not going to happen in the woods of Maine.

The original law was 1878 (something to do with Reconstruction) but was only expanded to the Navy and Marines 2 years ago. However, it looks like they COULD participate to a certain extent (from wiki....)

Provide surveillance, intelligence gathering, observation, and equipment for domestic law enforcement on operations such as drug interdiction and counter-terrorism missions. For example, Delta Force soldiers from Fort Bragg were deployed upon request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to serve as sniper/observer teams, run communications, provide medical support, gather intelligence, and conduct assistance in explosive breaching during the 1987 Atlanta prison riots.[20]

it's why we (the coast guard) remain in DHS and not DOD so that we can patrol the waters of the US and it's territories and when we board people it's not an act of war.

GO GET THIS GUY JOE!!!!!

Yea!!! He's supposedly on the water GO GO GO!!!

Looking like he’s in the water

Based on what? They're searching anywhere they can think of. I don't think they have any idea.

Them rescinding the shelter in place & additional divers. But he hasn’t turned up . Was hoping he was dead

 

[Desert_Power]

Looking like he’s in the water

1) Any evidence that he took some kind of watercraft into the water (river, ocean, whatever)?

2) Any chance that Card may have committed suicide out on the water? Basically, he just fell in? Probably intentionally so he’d never be found (or so his thinking might have gone)?

I read some stuff on Reddit yesterday that, where his car was found, he would have been hemmed in by some dams. I've also seen rumors that a boat registered to him is missing, but you would still have to get through a couple of dams to get to open water. So I guess he could have set it up to use a kayak to get around the dams to a boat to open see. It is possible, but maybe not plausible?

 

[Doug B]

I read some stuff on Reddit yesterday that, where his car was found, he would have been hemmed in by some dams.

I can’t help thinking Card is already dead. I might be underestimated how easy it is to disappear like he’s done.

If his intention was to die on the river, fall in, and thus never be found … I wonder if the dams precluded that somehow (for instance, would his body “wash up” into one of the dams … get caught in grating or something).

 

[massraider]

I can’t help thinking Card is already dead. I might be underestimated how easy it is to disappear like he’s done

Unless he planned an escape. If he was sane enough to think ahead and make arrangements, one can hide.

 

[Don Quixote]

I can’t help thinking Card is already dead. I might be underestimated how easy it is to disappear like he’s done

Unless he planned an escape. If he was sane enough to think ahead and make arrangements, one can hide.

Someone like Eric Rudolph was able to survive for years as a fugitive in the mountains. Not sure if he could or will do the same, but possible.

ETA: Found dead, so there we go.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Local news reporting he's dead, self inflicted gunshot to head

 

[HellToupee]

Presser @ 10 from Lewiston. Looks like it’s over

 

[TLEF316]

CNN reporting the same.

Just so senseless.

 

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Unconfirmed reports that Maine wardens have found Robert Card dead

 

[Rustoleum]

Local news reporting he's dead, self inflicted gunshot to head

Shoot him again to be sure.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Found him at a recycling center. Assuming the one he got fired from but don't know for sure.

 

[Desert_Power]

Local news reporting he's dead, self inflicted gunshot to head

Shoot him again to be sure.

Gotta ensure he isn't a zombie IMO

 

[Phil Elliott]

They must have known earlier as they lifted the lockdown.

 

[BeTheMatch]

They must have known earlier as they lifted the lockdown.

Nope. Said it was well after that.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Am I the only one wondering how in the hell it took them over 48 hours to search the area near his former employer which happened to be pretty close to where he abandoned his car and left behind the assault rifle?

 

[beer 30]

Am I the only one wondering how in the hell it took them over 48 hours to search the area near his former employer which happened to be pretty close to where he abandoned his car and left behind the assault rifle?

Hindsight is always 20/20. Dude is dead, move forward.

 

[HellToupee]

Governor sounds like she just smoked a pack of Newports

 

[fruity pebbles]

Governor sounds like she just smoked a pack of Newports

Prolly did

 

[BeTheMatch]

Could we stop the theatrical ASL schtick? Good lord. I can't hear the speakers over her antics. (And I'm half deaf, so whatever, I get it. But come on.)

 

[BeTheMatch]

The governor is hammered