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IvanKaramazov said:
One of the things that makes woke ideology sort of unique is how people will say stuff -- like that black people are unjustly shot by police more often than whites -- and then when that turns out to be untrue they'll just blithely deny that anybody ever said that.  As if we weren't there at the time and weren't listening.

Not sure why folks don't think that carries a reputational consequence.
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I’m not denying that somebody said that. I honestly have no idea. I’m denying that it’s at the root of BLM which this guy claims. That’s false. 

 
timschochet said:
I’m not denying that somebody said that. I honestly have no idea. I’m denying that it’s at the root of BLM which this guy claims. That’s false. 
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Yeah, it's not like he worked for a news source responsible for producing thousands of stories a year, or did data mining research to assist in the preparation of those articles.  How could he possibly be more informed than a random message board poster with a reputation for not being very accurate? 

 
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timschochet said:
I stopped reading a third of the way through. Because he states that the core BLM narrative is that blacks are shot by police  more than whites. That’s simply false. The BLM narrative is that blacks are mistreated by police more than whites. And it’s correct. So I’m pretty sure, after reading that, that this guy is manipulating data to try and make a political point, and that’s why he was fired. I’m guessing justifiably. 
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This is a strawman argument, tangential to the point of the article.

Why not argue in good faith?

 
IvanKaramazov said:
One of the things that makes woke ideology sort of unique is how people will say stuff -- like that black people are unjustly shot by police more often than whites -- and then when that turns out to be untrue they'll just blithely deny that anybody ever said that.  As if we weren't there at the time and weren't listening.

Not sure why folks don't think that carries a reputational consequence.
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This post should be framed and hung on a wall.

 
Max Power said:
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1535067844232224781?s=20&t=dSzesdRMePJGtq9LVzWifQ

It's a little concerning they are trying to call this out like its a bad thing. 
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What was good about that from him?  Yeah...its a bad thing when foxnews goes all in with a guy like Tucker spewing nonsense.  He talks about dissent and the left being intolerable...with Liz Cheney on the screen.  Remind me what the GOP has done with her for not going along with Trump?

 
sho nuff said:
What was good about that from him?  Yeah...its a bad thing when foxnews goes all in with a guy like Tucker spewing nonsense.  He talks about dissent and the left being intolerable...with Liz Cheney on the screen.  Remind me what the GOP has done with her for not going along with Trump?
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You entirely missed the point. They were calling out fox news for not covering jan 6th sham trial when 8 other networks already were. 

It's ok to have a different viewpoint.

 
Max Power said:
You entirely missed the point. They were calling out fox news for not covering jan 6th sham trial when 8 other networks already were. 

It's ok to have a different viewpoint.
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They should be called out though...if you are a news network and instead are running tucker blathering on like he was.  And funny that he complained that people turned on Joe Rogan for a dissenting opinion...which was mostly about him going completely against science like Ivermectin...while Liz Cheney is on the screen...good stuff.

 
sho nuff said:
They should be called out though...if you are a news network and instead are running tucker blathering on like he was.  And funny that he complained that people turned on Joe Rogan for a dissenting opinion...which was mostly about him going completely against science like Ivermectin...while Liz Cheney is on the screen...good stuff.
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News networks shouldn't be covering political theater. The irony of this post isn't lost either. 

 
Max Power said:
News networks shouldn't be covering political theater. The irony of this post isn't lost either. 
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So you agree news networks shouldn't be covering Tucker Carlson?

Hearings aren't just political theater...but not shocking that some would believe they are.

 
Max Power said:
You entirely missed the point. They were calling out fox news for not covering jan 6th sham trial when 8 other networks already were. 

It's ok to have a different viewpoint.
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How would one know it's a sham trial if one doesn't watch it?  Be honest here; you made up your mind before seeing the evidence because you want to believe there's no evidence.

Note that there's a history of this on your part.  The Kraken, Ivermectin, Space Force election data, etc.

 
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Rich Conway said:
How would one know it's a sham trial if one doesn't watch it?  Be honest here; you made up your mind before seeing the evidence because you want to believe there's no evidence.
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It's the same dog and pony show we've seen before.  WE GOT'EEM!!!

Also, I'm assuming you watched 2000 Mules then?

 
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Rich Conway said:
Note that there's a history of this on your part.  The Kraken, Ivermectin, Space Force election data, etc.
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It all begins and ends at political worldview. There are no grounds for good-faith discussion -- the sky is different colors in the respective worlds.

 
Rich Conway said:
How would one know it's a sham trial if one doesn't watch it?  Be honest here; you made up your mind before seeing the evidence because you want to believe there's no evidence.

Note that there's a history of this on your part.  The Kraken, Ivermectin, Space Force election data, etc.
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What came out yesterday that was new? I dont need to eat a whole #### sandwich to tell you it's going to taste like ####.

 
Max Power said:
What came out yesterday that was new? I dont need to eat a whole #### sandwich to tell you it's going to taste like ####.
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That Mike Pence was, and was treated as such by the leader of the US Armed Forces, the acting POTUS on J6. Pence gave the orders because the armed forces were acting as if  DJT was incapacitated at best, attempting a coup at worst. 

 
Herb said:
That Mike Pence was, and was treated as such by the leader of the US Armed Forces, the acting POTUS on J6. Pence gave the orders because the armed forces were acting as if  DJT was incapacitated at best, attempting a coup at worst. 
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That sounds like a coup

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
This isn't great.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2022/06/16/usa-today-audit-reporter/7647731001/

After receiving an external correction request, USA TODAY audited the reporting work of Gabriela Miranda. The audit revealed that some individuals quoted were not affiliated with the organizations claimed and appeared to be fabricated. The existence of other individuals quoted.
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LOL A reporter who quit a while back.  Good job.  Now can someone get the WaPo to do Taylor Lorenz.  Guaranteed she's got a bunch of "errors" and/or unethical stuff in her articles. 

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
This isn't great.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2022/06/16/usa-today-audit-reporter/7647731001/

After receiving an external correction request, USA TODAY audited the reporting work of Gabriela Miranda. The audit revealed that some individuals quoted were not affiliated with the organizations claimed and appeared to be fabricated. The existence of other individuals quoted.
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It so interesting the diversity of the articles she fabricated...it's such a big move doing this in today's world because it is so easy to research stuff...back in the day in Boston Mike Barnacle was the King of making stuff up but that was an era you could get away with it (at least for a while) but in 2022 you just gotta know you are gonna get bagged...pretty crazy it took this long.

 
Why does the media let politicians get away with this crap? She was asked a question. She did not answer that question. She gave bs talking points while making that disgusting noise she makes.

If the media was reputable they would all demand an actual answer. 

Period. 

 
parasaurolophus said:
Why does the media let politicians get away with this crap? She was asked a question. She did not answer that question. She gave bs talking points while making that disgusting noise she makes.

If the media was reputable they would all demand an actual answer. 

Period. 
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The media, across the board, has diverged from its core tenets.   There are scant few media outlets that are not merely propaganda machines for political ideology

 
One of Tim's most trusted news sources has redefined the word "fact":

With news reports around the globe and now a presidential imprimatur, however, the story has acquired the status of a “fact” no matter its provenance. If a rapist is ever charged, the fact finally would have more solid grounding.
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So now, as long as a story goes viral it should be considered fact, regardless of how flimsy the supporting data it for the story is.  On a related note, Jussie Smolett was in fact beaten within an inch of his death.  It went viral.  It must be a fact.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/09/one-source-story-about-10-year-old-an-abortion-goes-viral/

 
John123 said:
One of Tim's most trusted news sources has redefined the word "fact":

So now, as long as a story goes viral it should be considered fact, regardless of how flimsy the supporting data it for the story is.  On a related note, Jussie Smolett was in fact beaten within an inch of his death.  It went viral.  It must be a fact.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/09/one-source-story-about-10-year-old-an-abortion-goes-viral/
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WaPo:  Where Democracy Goes to Die

 
John123 said:
One of Tim's most trusted news sources has redefined the word "fact":

So now, as long as a story goes viral it should be considered fact, regardless of how flimsy the supporting data it for the story is.  On a related note, Jussie Smolett was in fact beaten within an inch of his death.  It went viral.  It must be a fact.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/09/one-source-story-about-10-year-old-an-abortion-goes-viral/
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But if I claim this story isn't true, that is misinformation... MSM has shown itself to be nothing more than an elite mouthpiece. 

 
parasaurolophus said:
Pravdafact

So not what happened.

If you read this article and you dont know the details, please dont defend it. Thanks tim.
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They killed the link... 

Here's a fact: You ended up in the wrong place!

You’ve followed a link to a page that doesn’t exist. Truth-O-Meter rating? True! Please use the navigation or search box above or try starting over from our main page.

Don’t worry, we’ve notified someone that this page is missing.
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Well, it's official.

One America News has lost its last major cable carrier, as Verizon Fios said they couldn't reach an agreement with the far-right channel and will remove it from their lineup on July 31.

Verizon statement:

"These negotiations were focused on economics, as they always are, but OAN failed to agree to fair terms...effective July 31, 2022, we will no longer have the rights to provide our customers with this programming, and it will be removed from the Fios TV lineup"

 
djmich said:
More excellent reporting by CNN

An entire North Carolina police department resigned after a Black woman town manager was hired

Why is her race/gender relevant, let alone the lead in headline.

17 paragraphs into the story they disclose the prior manager was a black man.
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It's also worth noting that she was fired from her last job 8 years ago.  And she then sued that employer for discrimination after being fired, a lawsuit that was dismissed.  Not sure why anyone would hire someone willing to file frivolous lawsuits if you terminate them.   She's been running her own consulting firm since then until being hired in this position.

 
John123 said:
It's also worth noting that she was fired from her last job 8 years ago.  And she then sued that employer for discrimination after being fired, a lawsuit that was dismissed.  Not sure why anyone would hire someone willing to file frivolous lawsuits if you terminate them.   She's been running her own consulting firm since then until being hired in this position.
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Hired for optics.

 
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