roadkill1292
Footballguy
Maryland - Virginia, Pennsylvania and North Carolina (in a close call over New York; I think NC is on the upswing)
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Let's Talk Peaceful USA Realignment (1 Viewer)
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Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Real Estate taxes (and bridge tolls) is exactly what has prevented me from moving to New Jersey.
Mile High
Footballguy
Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and Utah. Gives this new country access to borders with Mexico and California for trade.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
I remember one fella at the other board picking Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee and Virginia just because he loved the way it looked on a map.
Illinois and her ugly stepsisters: Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin
illinois will run the show
Wisconsin will do what we tell them including relocating Chicago gangs and homeless to Milwaukee. Plus take our dumbest IL people and still raise the average iq of that state
Minnesota cause they are well educated according to ranks and IL can outsource our worst jobs there
iowa cause nobody else will take them
illinois will run the show
Wisconsin will do what we tell them including relocating Chicago gangs and homeless to Milwaukee. Plus take our dumbest IL people and still raise the average iq of that state
Minnesota cause they are well educated according to ranks and IL can outsource our worst jobs there
iowa cause nobody else will take them
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roadkill1292
Footballguy
Once you understandably headed northwest to start, your fourth pick offered up some tough choices. I guess an argument could be made for Missouri over Iowa.
Manster
Footballguy
Yea, what timing for a dig like that...I don't think the purse comment would fly in the drag queen, or LGBTQ threads.....very insensitive......might get a feller cancelled.
dozer
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Yeah, I know Sand jokingly cried at my leaving Alabama out but picking those 3 - TN, NC and FL was easy. Mountains, beaches and some great cities that we vacation in those 3. SC and Bama have a lot in common with the non-Atlanta parts of Georgia so not getting much benefits with those.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Wait, I may have misunderstood the rules. I can pick any state that borders a state that borders mine too - so any contiguous grouping? Not sure it would change my answer though. Would maybe have to consult a map.
thought about this a little more.
MN would be the sanitation department for IL. MN state slogan “Where Illinois gives a poop”
The 10 percent of Iowa that is not farmland would be leveled and replaced with farmland. The firstborn female in each WI family would be sent to IA to plow fields.
WI state slogan: “Know your role”
Everybody selected last for dodgeball would be relocated to IA.
GordonGekko
Footballguy
With actual political bifurcation, California would split in half. Too many Republicans in CA to concede the state.
The critical issue to start would be equal division of the major ports. Without that, there would be civil war.
Coordination for national defense would be close to impossible. Civil war would likely be inevitable anyway. If it makes you feel better, my side would win, but I'd guarantee your safety and the safety of your family.
You know how some people here have that subtitle, FBG Beta Tester under their screen name. Mine should read "Man Of The People"
bigbottom
Footballguy
1) This is my theoretical secession scenario, so I reject your rules. In my world, CaliZonaNewTexico is a well-functioning sovereign with citizens across the political spectrum.
2) Republicans aren’t conceding the state by joining with Texas. To the contrary . . .
3) Your side would win? I live in a red city in a rural red county in a red state, and happily at that. No offense intended, but the fact that you insist on viewing things through the lens of “your side” and “my side” and one of the sides “winning” is why you suck.
Put another way, I don’t live on the Internet, and have no problem IRL living, working, socializing and making a difference with people from across the political spectrum.
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bigbottom
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CaliZonaNewTexico gets me a whole bunch of things I like and that would be good for a sovereign nation:
1) Ports on multiple coasts
2) Tons of industry and innovation
3) Diversity
4) Fantastic culture and food
5) The source for a significant portion of young athletic talent in baseball, football and basketball, leading to great domestic sports teams
6) Agriculture and ranching
7) A foreign border for trade (we would own that entire border)
8) Beaches, mountains, snow skiing, hiking, National parks, natural wonders
9) Domestic energy sources (Permian basin, offshore drilling)
10) Tech sector (Silicon Valley, Austin, Space X)
11) Military staffed by citizens from the number 1 and number 2 ranked states in terms of military enlistment
12) Entertainment and music hubs
1) Ports on multiple coasts
2) Tons of industry and innovation
3) Diversity
4) Fantastic culture and food
5) The source for a significant portion of young athletic talent in baseball, football and basketball, leading to great domestic sports teams
6) Agriculture and ranching
7) A foreign border for trade (we would own that entire border)
8) Beaches, mountains, snow skiing, hiking, National parks, natural wonders
9) Domestic energy sources (Permian basin, offshore drilling)
10) Tech sector (Silicon Valley, Austin, Space X)
11) Military staffed by citizens from the number 1 and number 2 ranked states in terms of military enlistment
12) Entertainment and music hubs
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I agree, it is simply not sustainable to have one of our two major political party's leaders insist they won an election they have no evidence provable in court they won. Some participants in National elections have claimed they won but have always eventually conceded but one. Not sure if that one will get a chance again in 2024 but even having a slim possibility he could should cause grave concern. Is this going to be part of what Trumpism brings to the GOP or will it die with the unprecedented dishonest selfish conceit of #45? Seeing how a Representative who voted to impeach in SC was defeated soundly and how Cheney's Wyoming election bid will have similar results I am not hopeful. Congrats and good luck in your new life BL.BobbyLayne said:
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roadkill1292
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Yes, sorry that I wasn't clear about that. Let's amend it to: any four states that include your own and result in a new nation with contiguous borders.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Under the rules clarification above, would you reconsider your choices? If Colorado is your starting point, you could get California, for example.
The Commish
Footballguy
If you have issues with tolls then FL is definitely not in the cards. At least central FL anyway
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massraider
Footballguy
If you don't have a direct headline, I'm not sure how you can make rules.1) This is my theoretical secession scenario, so I reject your rules. In my world, CaliZonaNewTexico is a well-functioning sovereign with citizens across the political spectrum.
2) Republicans aren’t conceding the state by joining with Texas. To the contrary . . .
3) Your side would win? I live in a red city in a rural red county in a red state, and happily at that. No offense intended, but the fact that you insist on viewing things through the lens of “your side” and “my side” and one of the sides “winning” is why you suck.
massraider
Footballguy
People don't move somewhere because of road tolls?
Mile High
Footballguy
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Utah, Nevada, California (Hawaii)
Also, you should consider swapping for VA. FL is gross.
dkp993
Footballguy
And once you start dividing it doesn’t stop. Within each party are group that would want to divide further, and more groups that want to divide from them. It’s a snowball rolling.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Yes, between taxes and tolls I could save about $5-10K a year living in the Philly suburbs than New Jersey or the city of Philadelphia.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Ontario and the Maritime provinces at least will get an invitation to join our new nation of Atlantica. Quebec's insistence on special levels of autonomy is potentially divisive, though I admit that Canada has found ways to reasonably accommodate them.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I think it was more my reading comprehension.
I don’t think mine would change - the only somewhat interesting things I could do from Georgia with that change is include Texas and a Virginia/Maryland combo. If I was thinking natural resources and land then Texas would be an obvious choice. But I can’t get Texas and Florida both. I’ll stick with Florida - Tennessee- North Carolina.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Some Florida people are gross but every state has gross people. Florida has Gulf beaches, Atlanta beaches, Miami and Disney World/Universal. Virginia seems like a nice place but I’m not vacationing at VA beaches and I’m not familiar enough with what else the state has. No brainer for me.
