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Middle Aged Dummies!! Artists #1's have been posted!! (2 Viewers)
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Best drummer in the past 3 drafts.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
I don't think we are doing that yet, but I am. Don't make me arm wrestle for this. The Pointer SIsters have 18 albums. I need to start early.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I passed the time at my son's karate lesson by reading Smith's Wikipedia page and ... yeah.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
28. What's This World Comin' To
Album: Chicago VI (1973)
Writer: James Pankow
Lead vocals: Robert Lamm, Peter Cetera and Terry Kath
Released as a single? No
For our first three songs from Chicago, we have had hard rock, country rock and Beach Boys-style pop. Now we get R&B. This James Pankow-penned tune is one of the band's funkiest and most soulful songs, and features dynamite performances from all three vocalists, who trade off seamlessly like the members of Sly and the Family Stone did. (The interplay also reminds me of The Band's "We Can Talk".) It gets particularly transcendent when Terry Kath comes in with the title phrase. The groove set by Peter Cetera and Danny Seraphine is on point the entire time, the horns swing without overwhelming the rhythm section, and Robert Lamm's organ solo that closes out the song is a hell of a ride. Despite the serious nature of the lyrics, few of Chicago's songs convey as much unbridled joy as this one. For some reason, only two singles were released from this album, but this would have been a logical choice for a third.
Live at the Caribou Ranch studio, featured in the 1973 ABC special Chicago in the Rockies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pDZqW8-O00
As far as actual concert performances go, there weren't many and none are on YouTube.
Leonid and Friends version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIOxXqfkbhw
Speaking of Chicago in the Rockies, for those of you who missed when I posted the clip from that special of them playing Tired of Being Alone with Al Green, here it is again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-F4janxKEw (this later showed up as a bonus track on a reissue of Chicago VI)
Chicago VI began several patterns -- the first of five straight albums recorded at Caribou Ranch, the first album to have all its singles sung by Peter Cetera, the first that sounded like an amalgamation of styles without a consistent vibe, the first that didn't have anything you'd consider particularly "experimental," and the first where the preponderance of the best songs weren't written by Lamm (that honor went to Pankow). Lamm wrote a bunch of political/philosophical tunes on the first four studio albums, but starting with this album, and perhaps because of drug use that escalated around this time ("I've not been feeling right, I've not been feeling right, I've not been feeling right," he sings at one point), and got out of control by the early '80s, his writing got more personal, and many of his songs from here on out would be about the pressures of fame and the expectations of the industry and the music press. The album opens with Lamm asking the music critics "What do you want?" While I side with him over them, it doesn't make for very compelling listening. More successful are the songs that tackle the broader implications of how outside forces bear down on people. The album more often leans into pop than its predecessors, but it does so while usually maintaining interesting arrangements. And it certainly kept their fans happy, as it was their second consecutive disc to reach No. 1 on the album charts.
At #27 we have our first song penned by Robert Lamm, who has the most songwriting credits on my list (13). It is not a screed against music critics, and as far as I can tell, he was feeling right when he wrote it.
Album: Chicago VI (1973)
Writer: James Pankow
Lead vocals: Robert Lamm, Peter Cetera and Terry Kath
Released as a single? No
For our first three songs from Chicago, we have had hard rock, country rock and Beach Boys-style pop. Now we get R&B. This James Pankow-penned tune is one of the band's funkiest and most soulful songs, and features dynamite performances from all three vocalists, who trade off seamlessly like the members of Sly and the Family Stone did. (The interplay also reminds me of The Band's "We Can Talk".) It gets particularly transcendent when Terry Kath comes in with the title phrase. The groove set by Peter Cetera and Danny Seraphine is on point the entire time, the horns swing without overwhelming the rhythm section, and Robert Lamm's organ solo that closes out the song is a hell of a ride. Despite the serious nature of the lyrics, few of Chicago's songs convey as much unbridled joy as this one. For some reason, only two singles were released from this album, but this would have been a logical choice for a third.
Live at the Caribou Ranch studio, featured in the 1973 ABC special Chicago in the Rockies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pDZqW8-O00
As far as actual concert performances go, there weren't many and none are on YouTube.
Leonid and Friends version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIOxXqfkbhw
Speaking of Chicago in the Rockies, for those of you who missed when I posted the clip from that special of them playing Tired of Being Alone with Al Green, here it is again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-F4janxKEw (this later showed up as a bonus track on a reissue of Chicago VI)
Chicago VI began several patterns -- the first of five straight albums recorded at Caribou Ranch, the first album to have all its singles sung by Peter Cetera, the first that sounded like an amalgamation of styles without a consistent vibe, the first that didn't have anything you'd consider particularly "experimental," and the first where the preponderance of the best songs weren't written by Lamm (that honor went to Pankow). Lamm wrote a bunch of political/philosophical tunes on the first four studio albums, but starting with this album, and perhaps because of drug use that escalated around this time ("I've not been feeling right, I've not been feeling right, I've not been feeling right," he sings at one point), and got out of control by the early '80s, his writing got more personal, and many of his songs from here on out would be about the pressures of fame and the expectations of the industry and the music press. The album opens with Lamm asking the music critics "What do you want?" While I side with him over them, it doesn't make for very compelling listening. More successful are the songs that tackle the broader implications of how outside forces bear down on people. The album more often leans into pop than its predecessors, but it does so while usually maintaining interesting arrangements. And it certainly kept their fans happy, as it was their second consecutive disc to reach No. 1 on the album charts.
At #27 we have our first song penned by Robert Lamm, who has the most songwriting credits on my list (13). It is not a screed against music critics, and as far as I can tell, he was feeling right when he wrote it.
Zegras11
Footballguy
It's a great song. I would have had it a little higher
tuffnutt
Footballguy
There is a wonderful Documentary called "Heaven Adores You" about Elliott. Watched again last night. Highly recommend.
kupcho1
Footballguy
I said probably. Fun conjecturing and nothing to get bent out of shape about.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
My favorite by them so far - which I guess makes sense, in theory.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Big Thief and Elliot Smith are artists I remember hearing songs from and liking in past drafts but not really exploring. I’ve loved what I’ve heard so far and since they’re the two “unknowns” that fit most into my wheelhouse, I’m looking forward to their final playlists and then jumping in more from there.
simey
Footballguy
I'm not bent out of shape, kupcho1.
tuffnutt
Footballguy
28. Can't Make a Sound- Elliott Smith
From the Figure 8 album
"Spinning the world like a toy top
Until there's a ghost in every town
Can't make a sound
Eyes locked and shining
Can't you tell me what's happening?
Why should you want any other When you're a world within a world?"
Another song on repeated listening that I wonder why I ranked so low. this song has it all, great layering and composition, harmonies, textures, lyrics. the build is the best part imo. Just an incredible crescendo and outro.
Elliott's music can for sure be depressing or sad, but there is a beauty to it that makes it worth it. He puts enough of himself into the songs that you can feel his struggles and pain, but its not totally autobiographical... he leaves enough space for the listener to make the emotions relatable to themselves, each in our own way. That is, to me, one of the best things an artist can do.
From the Figure 8 album
"Spinning the world like a toy top
Until there's a ghost in every town
Can't make a sound
Eyes locked and shining
Can't you tell me what's happening?
Why should you want any other When you're a world within a world?"
Another song on repeated listening that I wonder why I ranked so low. this song has it all, great layering and composition, harmonies, textures, lyrics. the build is the best part imo. Just an incredible crescendo and outro.
Elliott's music can for sure be depressing or sad, but there is a beauty to it that makes it worth it. He puts enough of himself into the songs that you can feel his struggles and pain, but its not totally autobiographical... he leaves enough space for the listener to make the emotions relatable to themselves, each in our own way. That is, to me, one of the best things an artist can do.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Random thoughts on some of the #28s that I know:
After 1972's Something/Anything? Todd had no interest in putting out straightforward pop albums anymore, until in 1978, when he did. The Hermit of Mink Hollow appeared after his fans had stopped asking for something like that -- a very Todd-like thing to do. Too Far Gone is one of its catchiest and most successful songs, and I believe is his only tune that shares a title with one of Neil Young's songs. (I am the only person in the world who would try to keep track of something like that.)
Murder by Numbers is a good album closer. I don't care if it didn't appear on the vinyl version. It's an album closer.
Home by the Sea is the best song on Genesis s/t (especially if you consider it and Second Home by the Sea as one track; I got to hear them played together at my 1987 and 1992 shows).
Witch Hunt is dynamic and chilling and unfortunately still relevant today. It's part of a series called Fear, the original trilogy of which were released on consecutive albums in reverse order.
Anything from Innervisions is automatically a good choice.
Billy Breathes is a very atypical Phish song. One of my friends hates Phish but loves this song. It's basically a lullaby. On his first solo tour, Trey Anastasio started his shows with a solo acoustic set. For that, he learned Billy Breathes on piano, taking advice from Neil Young, who told him that every solo acoustic set should have at least one piano song to mix things up.
All Over the World is a jam, and doesn't seem to get as much attention today as most of ELO's other big songs between 1973 and 1981. Because it's from the Xanadu soundtrack? Don't let that stop you.
I love how the Raelettes are used on Night Time (Is the Right Time).
SUGAR BEAR!
After 1972's Something/Anything? Todd had no interest in putting out straightforward pop albums anymore, until in 1978, when he did. The Hermit of Mink Hollow appeared after his fans had stopped asking for something like that -- a very Todd-like thing to do. Too Far Gone is one of its catchiest and most successful songs, and I believe is his only tune that shares a title with one of Neil Young's songs. (I am the only person in the world who would try to keep track of something like that.)
Murder by Numbers is a good album closer. I don't care if it didn't appear on the vinyl version. It's an album closer.
Home by the Sea is the best song on Genesis s/t (especially if you consider it and Second Home by the Sea as one track; I got to hear them played together at my 1987 and 1992 shows).
Witch Hunt is dynamic and chilling and unfortunately still relevant today. It's part of a series called Fear, the original trilogy of which were released on consecutive albums in reverse order.
Anything from Innervisions is automatically a good choice.
Billy Breathes is a very atypical Phish song. One of my friends hates Phish but loves this song. It's basically a lullaby. On his first solo tour, Trey Anastasio started his shows with a solo acoustic set. For that, he learned Billy Breathes on piano, taking advice from Neil Young, who told him that every solo acoustic set should have at least one piano song to mix things up.
All Over the World is a jam, and doesn't seem to get as much attention today as most of ELO's other big songs between 1973 and 1981. Because it's from the Xanadu soundtrack? Don't let that stop you.
I love how the Raelettes are used on Night Time (Is the Right Time).
SUGAR BEAR!
Mt. Man
Footballguy
Randomness list:
Roadblox - The Prodigy. Immediately gives that EDM vibe. Definitely has its catchy moments, being rather subdued through most of the lyrics but then dropping the beat (am I allowed to use that phrase) for the chorus.
The Witch - Heart. I think this is the first Heart song I hadn’t heard. It’s definitely a rocker, though! Competing with AC/DC, Slade and the like for the top energetic fast-paced song of today.
Someone Saved My Life Tonight - Elton John. Yeah, this one I definitely know. Upbeat from the start and up-tempo part of the way in. I’m not afraid that I’m a sucker for the parts with Fly Away/High Away/ Bye Bye
Home by the Sea - Genesis. This is a bit of a flashback! Genesis (or “Shapes”, to distinguish from the band) wasn’t an album I listened to much. Partially because I’d heard like four songs often enough from radio play. But I enjoy this one.
Right This Second - deadmau5. This is definitely a good distance from my wheelhouse, but I can appreciate a smooth instrumental. Felt like a song perfect for background music.
All Over the World - ELO. Back to familiar songs. A deeper cut, caught in the disco trappings of Xanadu. It certainly carries their style throughout the song, that vibrant and uplifting tone.
Since I hit some well-known (to me) artists in this grouping, let me add that I also enjoyed today's songs from Brandi Carlile, Doves and Todd Rundgren.
Roadblox - The Prodigy. Immediately gives that EDM vibe. Definitely has its catchy moments, being rather subdued through most of the lyrics but then dropping the beat (am I allowed to use that phrase) for the chorus.
The Witch - Heart. I think this is the first Heart song I hadn’t heard. It’s definitely a rocker, though! Competing with AC/DC, Slade and the like for the top energetic fast-paced song of today.
Someone Saved My Life Tonight - Elton John. Yeah, this one I definitely know. Upbeat from the start and up-tempo part of the way in. I’m not afraid that I’m a sucker for the parts with Fly Away/High Away/ Bye Bye
Home by the Sea - Genesis. This is a bit of a flashback! Genesis (or “Shapes”, to distinguish from the band) wasn’t an album I listened to much. Partially because I’d heard like four songs often enough from radio play. But I enjoy this one.
Right This Second - deadmau5. This is definitely a good distance from my wheelhouse, but I can appreciate a smooth instrumental. Felt like a song perfect for background music.
All Over the World - ELO. Back to familiar songs. A deeper cut, caught in the disco trappings of Xanadu. It certainly carries their style throughout the song, that vibrant and uplifting tone.
Since I hit some well-known (to me) artists in this grouping, let me add that I also enjoyed today's songs from Brandi Carlile, Doves and Todd Rundgren.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
The FM stations in Philly played every track from this album except Silver Rainbow and Second Home by the Sea regularly (and at night sometimes they'd play both Home by the Seas together).
Eephus
Footballguy
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Also, I got this at my one Rush show despite the band at the time of recording it never intending to play it live. They had a "tradition" whereby the second-to-last song on each album was not planned to be performed live so that the band could record it however they wanted to without having to worry about how it would translate to the stage. Eventually Witch Hunt broke that tradition because after two more albums, the band decided to perform the original Fear trilogy live in its entirety. It remained in setlists for most of the '80s and then returned on the 2007-08 tour, when I saw them.Witch Hunt is dynamic and chilling and unfortunately still relevant today. It's part of a series called Fear, the original trilogy of which were released on consecutive albums in reverse order.
Tau837
Footballguy
I finally had a chance to listen to the #30 playlist.
Excluding my own song, I already knew that I loved this song:
Excluding my own song, I already knew that I loved this song:
- Bruce - Born To Run
- Decemberists - Midlist Author
Tau837
Footballguy
Tau837
Footballguy
Foo Fighters Just Win Baby What Did I Do? / God As My Witness
This is the first of 3 songs I chose off Sonic Highways. As I mentioned in my Foos introduction post, Sonic Highways is a project different from most albums. From Wikipedia:
The city for this song was Austin, TX and features a guest appearance by Gary Clark, Jr., who is local to Austin (and extremely talented)... Clark plays the solo in the final minute of the song.
Personally, I loved the HBO series. Here is a relatively short video about the making of this song: Making of What Did I Do, God as My Witness - Foo Fighters. Clark recording his solo in this video (around 8:30) is awesome.
Here is the official video: Foo Fighters - What Did I Do? / God As My Witness (Official HD Video)
Music Times said this about the song:
Billboard said this:
Interesting characterization as "Meat Loaf operatic". Perhaps another way to identify the variety in the Foos catalog.
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timschochet
Footballguy
I haven’t really had a lot of time to post and I’m leaving pretty shortly for Europe so I doubt I’ll be posting at all. And I don’t usually post about my selections if I haven’t had time to listen to other picks (and for the most part I haven’t.)
But I will say that “Someone Saved My Life Tonight” is about Long John Baldry, the blues singer who first discovered Elton John and who talked him out of suicide. Elton’s autobiography is dedicated to him, but strangely enough he’s not a major character in the movie.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Made it to Detroit. They don't make suburban highway La Quinta Inns like they used to. Or maybe this one is exactly like they used to be, cigarette smoke and all...
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
They just don't make nicknames like this anymore.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
What are you doing in Detroit?
krista4
Footballguy
kupcho1
Footballguy
Yep, just revisited song #20 on my Decemberists list (which we'll get to sometime in July I think) and damned if the opening riff isn't very similar (although it goes on a little longer in the Decemberists song).
I think Colin owes Billy Joe a beer at the least.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Just a stop on the way to Tennessee. We left last night at 8 and got here around 1. Crossing the border that late meant no line and now today will be a relatively okay travel day.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Along with Marshall Faulk these my favorite #28s:
Genesis - Home by the Sea
...And You Will Know Us - Insatiable (Two)
Slade - It ain't Love But it ain't Bad
ELO - All Over The
Damon Albarn - The Good, The Bad & The Queen
Spoon - Do I Have To Talk You Into It
S &G - The Dangling Conversation
Bauhaus - The Three Shadows
deadmau5 - Right This Second
Genesis - Home by the Sea
...And You Will Know Us - Insatiable (Two)
Slade - It ain't Love But it ain't Bad
ELO - All Over The
Damon Albarn - The Good, The Bad & The Queen
Spoon - Do I Have To Talk You Into It
S &G - The Dangling Conversation
Bauhaus - The Three Shadows
deadmau5 - Right This Second
#28 Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be (Let There Be Rock)
Again, I am linking the live version off of If You Want Blood. It actually follows Riff Riff on that album and just felt right to include it here in the same location. I don’t often wish I were older but if it meant having a chance to see them live with Bon it might just be worth it. What a show this must have been.
Next up: one of the most well known songs from the early days.
Album breakdown
0 74 Jailbreak
0 High Voltage
0 Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
1 Let There Be Rock
1 PowerAge
0 Highway To Hell
1 Back in Black
1 For Those About To Rock (We Salute You)
0 Flick of the Switch
0 Fly On The Wall
0 Who Made Who
0 Blow Up Your Video
0 The Razor’s Edge
0 BallBreaker
0 Stiff Upper Lip
0 Black Ice
0 Rock or Bust
0 Power Up
Again, I am linking the live version off of If You Want Blood. It actually follows Riff Riff on that album and just felt right to include it here in the same location. I don’t often wish I were older but if it meant having a chance to see them live with Bon it might just be worth it. What a show this must have been.
Next up: one of the most well known songs from the early days.
Album breakdown
0 74 Jailbreak
0 High Voltage
0 Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
1 Let There Be Rock
1 PowerAge
0 Highway To Hell
1 Back in Black
1 For Those About To Rock (We Salute You)
0 Flick of the Switch
0 Fly On The Wall
0 Who Made Who
0 Blow Up Your Video
0 The Razor’s Edge
0 BallBreaker
0 Stiff Upper Lip
0 Black Ice
0 Rock or Bust
0 Power Up
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Finished the 30's last night and, as mentioned, had a number of songs that were new to me that I enjoyed. Many more than usual, for me.
In no particular order
Redesigning Women - The Highwomen (with Brandi Carlile)
So Excited - SRV. I've liked all of his so far so must be time to look into his material more.
Peacemaker - Green Day
I'm. Rocker - Slade
Valentine and Garude -Frank Black &...
Gone Cold - Clutch
Garden - Dinosaur Jr.
I Was In the House... - Zevon
Barfruit Blues - The Hold Steady
Aim't That Love - Ray Charles
Knock, knock, knock - Spoon
Although not new to me, Telephone Line is one of my top 2 or 3 ELO songs, Born To Run my favorite Bruce song, and Good bye Yellow Brick Road is an Elton masterpiece.
Beauty round!
In no particular order
Redesigning Women - The Highwomen (with Brandi Carlile)
So Excited - SRV. I've liked all of his so far so must be time to look into his material more.
Peacemaker - Green Day
I'm. Rocker - Slade
Valentine and Garude -Frank Black &...
Gone Cold - Clutch
Garden - Dinosaur Jr.
I Was In the House... - Zevon
Barfruit Blues - The Hold Steady
Aim't That Love - Ray Charles
Knock, knock, knock - Spoon
Although not new to me, Telephone Line is one of my top 2 or 3 ELO songs, Born To Run my favorite Bruce song, and Good bye Yellow Brick Road is an Elton masterpiece.
Beauty round!
simey
Footballguy
Like Elliott, Townes Van Zandt wrote a lot of depressing/sad songs too. He once said "Not all of my songs are sad. Some are hopeless."
I'm a fan of sad songs.
simey
Footballguy
When I was in high school, I had the nickname of Willamina Wussa Wanna. That was shortened to Willamina. That was shortened to Willie. That turned to Wonka, and then Willie Wonka, and then varied between Willamina and Willie.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
simey
Footballguy
She was a bad egg.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
young otb crushed on her quite hard
genesis of my attraction to them bad girls, i s'pose
simey
Footballguy
It sorta sounds like a youngster singing this. I could see the character, Jacob, from Children of the Corn (1984 movie) singing it. I like the music in it.
simey
Footballguy
She was a bad girl fo sho.
young otb crushed on her quite hard
genesis of my attraction to them bad girls, i s'pose
MAC_32
Footballguy
There is nothing relatively okay about !-75 between Toledo and Dayton. It's a stress filled 2 lane migraine full of vehicles in both lanes running side-by-side at about 57 miles per hour for seemingly eternity. Enjoy the hills once you get through the south Cincy burbs though!
simey
Footballguy
I like everything from the #28s.
A few favorites that I know and didn't mention last night are:
The Dangling Conversation
Ain't Gone 'N' Give Up on Love - Great slow burner from Stevie Ray
My Winding Wheel
Have Another Drink
What's This World Coming To - Chicago is funked up.
All Over the World
A few favorites that I know and didn't mention last night are:
The Dangling Conversation
Ain't Gone 'N' Give Up on Love - Great slow burner from Stevie Ray
My Winding Wheel
Have Another Drink
What's This World Coming To - Chicago is funked up.
All Over the World
zamboni
Footballguy
Some impatient drafters channeling their own “I Want It Now” the past few days.She was a bad girl fo sho.
young otb crushed on her quite hard
genesis of my attraction to them bad girls, i s'pose
plinko
Footballguy
Sounds like I-95 between DC and Richmond. Everybody spread out and crawl.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
Some impatient drafters channeling their own “I Want It Now” the past few days.She was a bad girl fo sho.
young otb crushed on her quite hard
genesis of my attraction to them bad girls, i s'pose
purple nerples seem apropos
plinko
Footballguy
Insatiable (Two) is the first of four from 2009’s The Century of Self. If you like the first half, good news, there’s more soon, though a technical glitch will throw us off with the naming. The other two tracks are among their best and will come much later, long after everyone has thrown in their dibs on the next round!
“I’m the monster and I exist” is a killer line
“I’m the monster and I exist” is a killer line
simey
Footballguy
Here are few new to me favorites, but I liked everything new to me on the #28 list, and there were a lot of new to me songs.
Paul
The Poison Tree
The World at Large
The Sweet Part of the City - My favorite so far by THS
Insatiable (two) - My favorite so far by ...
Bebeto Vãobora
Lose Yourself to Dance - My favorite so far by DP
The Three Shadows Part 1- My favorite so far by Bauhaus.
Billy Breathes - My favorite so far by
Andalucia
Witch Hunt
Do I Have to Talk You Into It
Too Far Gone
Hard Way Home
Can't Made a Sound
It Ain't Love But It Ain't Bad
Paul
The Poison Tree
The World at Large
The Sweet Part of the City - My favorite so far by THS
Insatiable (two) - My favorite so far by ...
Bebeto Vãobora
Lose Yourself to Dance - My favorite so far by DP
The Three Shadows Part 1- My favorite so far by Bauhaus.
Billy Breathes - My favorite so far by
Andalucia
Witch Hunt
Do I Have to Talk You Into It
Too Far Gone
Hard Way Home
Can't Made a Sound
It Ain't Love But It Ain't Bad
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simey
Footballguy
The live version is really good.
simey
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
Takes a lot of bladder control, for sure.
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