Middle School Pizza Party -- WWYD (1 Viewer)

[Zow]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Sure. And there's no obligation for me to hold a heavy door for an 85 year old woman walking with a walker. But I'm still a douche if I don't.

 

[encaitar]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

1. Call home depot and ask for 82 gallons of blue paint. I'll bet you aren't picking your paint up for a week.
2. You will absolutely be paying more if you put out 82 bags of trash to be collected. Likely A LOT more. If you even have one bag extra outside of your bin you get charged a fine.
3. Teachers are saints, but you absolutely will be paying more for your child, either in time involved in helping them learn/get tutored, or paying for another year of school if they're missing 82 answers on a test.

The pizza workers are on a clock. They have to make all those pizzas in about a 30-40 minute time frame or your pizzas will be cold. The rest of the workers you mentioned don't have to hustle, even though there is more work. They can do it at their own pace and there won't be any issue. You've made those two teenagers work much harder than normal. Throwing a few 20s their way on that huge order is just courtesy IMO. I tip in this case every time. I think this is the exact situation where tipping is deserved, where most situations it really isn't. You feel differently.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

I hear you and don't entirely disagree. But, the food service world we live in relies on and contemplates tips for the food prices and servers' incomes. I'd much more prefer the European method where it's just baked into the price so we don't have to have these awkward situations. I actually don't mind when a restaurant has an auto-gratuity so I don't have to think about it. And, yeah, ideally the owner has some workers he or she may pay OT to for an advanced massive order like this and everybody is fairly compensated.

But, again, we don't live in this world. In the tipping culture world we live in, I find it unconscionable to not tip on a singular 82-pizza order.

I think that’s the crux of my argument. Why is it my responsibility to make sure this person gets paid for their hard work instead of their employer?

 

[the moops]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

I hear you and don't entirely disagree. But, the food service world we live in relies on and contemplates tips for the food prices and servers' incomes. I'd much more prefer the European method where it's just baked into the price so we don't have to have these awkward situations. I actually don't mind when a restaurant has an auto-gratuity so I don't have to think about it. And, yeah, ideally the owner has some workers he or she may pay OT to for an advanced massive order like this and everybody is fairly compensated.

But, again, we don't live in this world. In the tipping culture world we live in, I find it unconscionable to not tip on a singular 82-pizza order.

I think that’s the crux of my argument. Why is it my responsibility to make sure this person gets paid for their hard work instead of their employer?

You sound like a real peach

 

[Dan Lambskin]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

1. Call home depot and ask for 82 gallons of blue paint. I'll bet you aren't picking your paint up for a week.
2. You will absolutely be paying more if you put out 82 bags of trash to be collected. Likely A LOT more. If you even have one bag extra outside of your bin you get charged a fine.
3. Teachers are saints, but you absolutely will be paying more for your child, either in time involved in helping them learn/get tutored, or paying for another year of school if they're missing 82 answers on a test.

The pizza workers are on a clock. They have to make all those pizzas in about a 30-40 minute time frame or your pizzas will be cold. The rest of the workers you mentioned don't have to hustle, even though there is more work. They can do it at their own pace and there won't be any issue. You've made those two teenagers work much harder than normal. Throwing a few 20s their way on that huge order is just courtesy IMO. I tip in this case every time. I think this is the exact situation where tipping is deserved, where most situations it really isn't. You feel differently. Just checked my local HD. Looks like they have 45 in stock that I can pick up

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

1. Call home depot and ask for 82 gallons of blue paint. I'll bet you aren't picking your paint up for a week.
2. You will absolutely be paying more if you put out 82 bags of trash to be collected. Likely A LOT more. If you even have one bag extra outside of your bin you get charged a fine.
3. Teachers are saints, but you absolutely will be paying more for your child, either in time involved in helping them learn/get tutored, or paying for another year of school if they're missing 82 answers on a test.

The pizza workers are on a clock. They have to make all those pizzas in about a 30-40 minute time frame or your pizzas will be cold. The rest of the workers you mentioned don't have to hustle, even though there is more work. They can do it at their own pace and there won't be any issue. You've made those two teenagers work much harder than normal. Throwing a few 20s their way on that huge order is just courtesy IMO. I tip in this case every time. I think this is the exact situation where tipping is deserved, where most situations it really isn't. You feel differently.

Looks like they have 45 in stock now that I can order for pickup tomorrow. But you think if I walked into Home Depot tomorrow and asked for 82 gallons of paint they’re telling me to come back in a week? Regardless if it’s same day or a week later how much should I tip them?

I pay taxes and don’t get charged by the bag for trashy. So let’s say a normal week I put out 2 bags, but this week I put out 82. How much should I tip them?

Anyway thanks trying to poke holes and not answering why I should tip out for food service and not the jobs. Why is that industry entitled to extra compensation from the consumer for working harder and other industries aren’t?

 

[DA RAIDERS]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

properly staff for it? They’re kids. That can only work so many hours a week. Usually with a 6 hour cap. And do you also not tip on the discount you want? Lame.

I was just in Cabo. I brought $300 in twenty’s for the sole purpose of giving them away as tips. I made quite a few people really happy. And guess what my up front tipping got me? Discounts.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

Weird scenarios.

I tip the guy/s that help me load the paint. But probably not the guy at the counter unless I’m certain he made them all.
I throw my garbage guy a tip every Xmas. In your scenario, I definitely would have to pay extra for that large of a pick up. And like the guy carrying the paint, I probably throw the guy a 20
Never tipped my kids teachers. I did get them all presents and bought whatever they needed for the classroom. I also volunteered every day, all the way until jr high.

It’s about making someone else’s life better. I can afford it, why not? I have never thought, whytf am I paying this persons salary, the owner of the establishment should do that!

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

properly staff for it? They’re kids. That can only work so many hours a week. Usually with a 6 hour cap. And do you also not tip on the discount you want? Lame.

I was just in Cabo. I brought $300 in twenty’s for the sole purpose of giving them away as tips. I made quite a few people really happy. And guess what my up front tipping got me? Discounts.

kids? I haven't ordered pizza in awhile but those are either some big kids or some grown *** adults. Maybe some college age kids. And let's just say that there were kids....they aren't paying rent or having to buy their own food.

 

[Judge Smails]

This is an absolutely appropriate tipping situation. The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas. The owner is stoked as is, but everyone else has been working their *** off for the past 2+ hours to make this happen. Throw them 50 bucks and go get the damn money from the parent association.

this

those 82 pizzas made it so they either fell behind, or couldn't fulfill, other orders.

if i recall anything about working at a place the did large-scale orders like this, someone probably called in the order the night before which gives the restaurant little/no time to prep for the demand.

throw these kids a tip

Exactly. I get the anti takeout tip sentiment but c’mon. Throw em a $20 or somethin’. You’re an FBG. For the kids, Jerry!

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

I can afford it, why not?

not everyone can afford a tip? I mean, I think most of us are pretty well off and could afford a tip and anyone that couldn't isn't doing a large order anyways but there who couldn't afford to tip

 

[DA RAIDERS]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

properly staff for it? They’re kids. That can only work so many hours a week. Usually with a 6 hour cap. And do you also not tip on the discount you want? Lame.

I was just in Cabo. I brought $300 in twenty’s for the sole purpose of giving them away as tips. I made quite a few people really happy. And guess what my up front tipping got me? Discounts.

kids? I haven't ordered pizza in awhile but those are either some big kids or some grown *** adults. Maybe some college age kids. And let's just say that there were kids....they aren't paying rent or having to buy their own food.

In my local pizza places, including large chains, most of the workers are high school kids. With one “older” kid as the manager. Maybe 19-23? And what does paying rent or buying your own food have to do with anything? Do you ask for proof of self dependency before you tip anyone? “So listen here bub, I’m gonna need to see a mortgage statement or some utility bills before I fork over any dough.”

 

[encaitar]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

1. Call home depot and ask for 82 gallons of blue paint. I'll bet you aren't picking your paint up for a week.
2. You will absolutely be paying more if you put out 82 bags of trash to be collected. Likely A LOT more. If you even have one bag extra outside of your bin you get charged a fine.
3. Teachers are saints, but you absolutely will be paying more for your child, either in time involved in helping them learn/get tutored, or paying for another year of school if they're missing 82 answers on a test.

The pizza workers are on a clock. They have to make all those pizzas in about a 30-40 minute time frame or your pizzas will be cold. The rest of the workers you mentioned don't have to hustle, even though there is more work. They can do it at their own pace and there won't be any issue. You've made those two teenagers work much harder than normal. Throwing a few 20s their way on that huge order is just courtesy IMO. I tip in this case every time. I think this is the exact situation where tipping is deserved, where most situations it really isn't. You feel differently. Just checked my local HD. Looks like they have 45 in stock that I can pick up

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

1. Call home depot and ask for 82 gallons of blue paint. I'll bet you aren't picking your paint up for a week.
2. You will absolutely be paying more if you put out 82 bags of trash to be collected. Likely A LOT more. If you even have one bag extra outside of your bin you get charged a fine.
3. Teachers are saints, but you absolutely will be paying more for your child, either in time involved in helping them learn/get tutored, or paying for another year of school if they're missing 82 answers on a test.

The pizza workers are on a clock. They have to make all those pizzas in about a 30-40 minute time frame or your pizzas will be cold. The rest of the workers you mentioned don't have to hustle, even though there is more work. They can do it at their own pace and there won't be any issue. You've made those two teenagers work much harder than normal. Throwing a few 20s their way on that huge order is just courtesy IMO. I tip in this case every time. I think this is the exact situation where tipping is deserved, where most situations it really isn't. You feel differently.

Looks like they have 45 in stock now that I can order for pickup tomorrow. But you think if I walked into Home Depot tomorrow and asked for 82 gallons of paint they’re telling me to come back in a week? Regardless if it’s same day or a week later how much should I tip them?

I pay taxes and don’t get charged by the bag for trashy. So let’s say a normal week I put out 2 bags, but this week I put out 82. How much should I tip them?

Anyway thanks trying to poke holes and not answering why I should tip out for food service and not the jobs. Why is that industry entitled to extra compensation from the consumer for working harder and other industries aren’t?

Again, since you apparently didn't catch it the first time. All those other scenarios, those workers can and will still work at the same speed. There might be more work, but they'll just keep at it until they're done. You order 82 pizzas, those two kids are working their tails off for 30-45 minutes because if they make those pizzas at their normal speed, then half of your food order is cold when you come pick it up. It's absolutely worth tipping for making them work harder in my opinion. Apparently you don't care that you just made two teens work 10x harder. If that's not a tipping situation in your world, then nothing should be IMO and that's fine.

FYI, don't ever put 82 bags of trash out for pickup. Taxes or not, you will absolutely be fined and the fine will be much higher than if you just took the trash to the landfill yourself.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

properly staff for it? They’re kids. That can only work so many hours a week. Usually with a 6 hour cap. And do you also not tip on the discount you want? Lame.

I was just in Cabo. I brought $300 in twenty’s for the sole purpose of giving them away as tips. I made quite a few people really happy. And guess what my up front tipping got me? Discounts.

kids? I haven't ordered pizza in awhile but those are either some big kids or some grown *** adults. Maybe some college age kids. And let's just say that there were kids....they aren't paying rent or having to buy their own food.

In my local pizza places, including large chains, most of the workers are high school kids. With one “older” kid as the manager. Maybe 19-23? And what does paying rent or buying your own food have to do with anything? Do you ask for proof of self dependency before you tip anyone? “So listen here bub, I’m gonna need to see a mortgage statement or some utility bills before I fork over any dough.”

It's possible that I'm not great at telling ages but the ones at mine, including some of the delivery drivers, look like full on adults.

I could be conflating/misundestanding arguments here but earlier Dan was talking about a living wage-kids don't need a living wage.

and you or someone said

They’re kids. That can only work so many hours a week. Usually with a 6 hour cap.

as if that means they are somehow more entitled to a tip? But like I said I could be misunderstanding here.

I mean, yeah tipping is nice-I just don't think a person should feel obligated to it or a worker should feel entitled to get it.

 

[FarFromHome]

I would sleep with the wife that picked up the pizza.

Just seeing this post. The post of the day for yesterday. Maybe post of the day for today also. Ha ha

 

[DA RAIDERS]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

properly staff for it? They’re kids. That can only work so many hours a week. Usually with a 6 hour cap. And do you also not tip on the discount you want? Lame.

I was just in Cabo. I brought $300 in twenty’s for the sole purpose of giving them away as tips. I made quite a few people really happy. And guess what my up front tipping got me? Discounts.

kids? I haven't ordered pizza in awhile but those are either some big kids or some grown *** adults. Maybe some college age kids. And let's just say that there were kids....they aren't paying rent or having to buy their own food.

In my local pizza places, including large chains, most of the workers are high school kids. With one “older” kid as the manager. Maybe 19-23? And what does paying rent or buying your own food have to do with anything? Do you ask for proof of self dependency before you tip anyone? “So listen here bub, I’m gonna need to see a mortgage statement or some utility bills before I fork over any dough.”

It's possible that I'm not great at telling ages but the ones at mine, including some of the delivery drivers, look like full on adults.

I could be conflating/misundestanding arguments here but earlier Dan was talking about a living wage-kids don't need a living wage.

and you or someone said

They’re kids. That can only work so many hours a week. Usually with a 6 hour cap.

as if that means they are somehow more entitled to a tip? But like I said I could be misunderstanding here.

I mean, yeah tipping is nice-I just don't think a person should feel obligated to it or a worker should feel entitled to get it.

I’m not speaking for Dan.

I don’t think the level of need should be a factor for tipping. How could you tell anyway? The snot nose 14 year old might be helping his family pay the bills.

I said the 2nd quote in reference to pizza place “staffing appropriately” if they got more than 24 hours notice. Nothing to do with tipping.

 

[AAABatteries]

Give them a stack of fake Jesus Saves $100 bills. Servers love that.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

1. Call home depot and ask for 82 gallons of blue paint. I'll bet you aren't picking your paint up for a week.
2. You will absolutely be paying more if you put out 82 bags of trash to be collected. Likely A LOT more. If you even have one bag extra outside of your bin you get charged a fine.
3. Teachers are saints, but you absolutely will be paying more for your child, either in time involved in helping them learn/get tutored, or paying for another year of school if they're missing 82 answers on a test.

The pizza workers are on a clock. They have to make all those pizzas in about a 30-40 minute time frame or your pizzas will be cold. The rest of the workers you mentioned don't have to hustle, even though there is more work. They can do it at their own pace and there won't be any issue. You've made those two teenagers work much harder than normal. Throwing a few 20s their way on that huge order is just courtesy IMO. I tip in this case every time. I think this is the exact situation where tipping is deserved, where most situations it really isn't. You feel differently. Just checked my local HD. Looks like they have 45 in stock that I can pick up

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

1. Call home depot and ask for 82 gallons of blue paint. I'll bet you aren't picking your paint up for a week.
2. You will absolutely be paying more if you put out 82 bags of trash to be collected. Likely A LOT more. If you even have one bag extra outside of your bin you get charged a fine.
3. Teachers are saints, but you absolutely will be paying more for your child, either in time involved in helping them learn/get tutored, or paying for another year of school if they're missing 82 answers on a test.

The pizza workers are on a clock. They have to make all those pizzas in about a 30-40 minute time frame or your pizzas will be cold. The rest of the workers you mentioned don't have to hustle, even though there is more work. They can do it at their own pace and there won't be any issue. You've made those two teenagers work much harder than normal. Throwing a few 20s their way on that huge order is just courtesy IMO. I tip in this case every time. I think this is the exact situation where tipping is deserved, where most situations it really isn't. You feel differently.

Looks like they have 45 in stock now that I can order for pickup tomorrow. But you think if I walked into Home Depot tomorrow and asked for 82 gallons of paint they’re telling me to come back in a week? Regardless if it’s same day or a week later how much should I tip them?

I pay taxes and don’t get charged by the bag for trashy. So let’s say a normal week I put out 2 bags, but this week I put out 82. How much should I tip them?

Anyway thanks trying to poke holes and not answering why I should tip out for food service and not the jobs. Why is that industry entitled to extra compensation from the consumer for working harder and other industries aren’t?

Again, since you apparently didn't catch it the first time. All those other scenarios, those workers can and will still work at the same speed. There might be more work, but they'll just keep at it until they're done. You order 82 pizzas, those two kids are working their tails off for 30-45 minutes because if they make those pizzas at their normal speed, then half of your food order is cold when you come pick it up. It's absolutely worth tipping for making them work harder in my opinion. Apparently you don't care that you just made two teens work 10x harder. If that's not a tipping situation in your world, then nothing should be IMO and that's fine.

FYI, don't ever put 82 bags of trash out for pickup. Taxes or not, you will absolutely be fined and the fine will be much higher than if you just took the trash to the landfill yourself.

Got it. So now I need to asses how hard someone might normally work and pay them extra for working harder? But I arbitrarily only do this in the service industry

should I tip my pharmacist who’s busier than usual because they’re filling prescriptions during cold and flu season?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

1. Call home depot and ask for 82 gallons of blue paint. I'll bet you aren't picking your paint up for a week.
2. You will absolutely be paying more if you put out 82 bags of trash to be collected. Likely A LOT more. If you even have one bag extra outside of your bin you get charged a fine.
3. Teachers are saints, but you absolutely will be paying more for your child, either in time involved in helping them learn/get tutored, or paying for another year of school if they're missing 82 answers on a test.

The pizza workers are on a clock. They have to make all those pizzas in about a 30-40 minute time frame or your pizzas will be cold. The rest of the workers you mentioned don't have to hustle, even though there is more work. They can do it at their own pace and there won't be any issue. You've made those two teenagers work much harder than normal. Throwing a few 20s their way on that huge order is just courtesy IMO. I tip in this case every time. I think this is the exact situation where tipping is deserved, where most situations it really isn't. You feel differently. Just checked my local HD. Looks like they have 45 in stock that I can pick up

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

1. Call home depot and ask for 82 gallons of blue paint. I'll bet you aren't picking your paint up for a week.
2. You will absolutely be paying more if you put out 82 bags of trash to be collected. Likely A LOT more. If you even have one bag extra outside of your bin you get charged a fine.
3. Teachers are saints, but you absolutely will be paying more for your child, either in time involved in helping them learn/get tutored, or paying for another year of school if they're missing 82 answers on a test.

The pizza workers are on a clock. They have to make all those pizzas in about a 30-40 minute time frame or your pizzas will be cold. The rest of the workers you mentioned don't have to hustle, even though there is more work. They can do it at their own pace and there won't be any issue. You've made those two teenagers work much harder than normal. Throwing a few 20s their way on that huge order is just courtesy IMO. I tip in this case every time. I think this is the exact situation where tipping is deserved, where most situations it really isn't. You feel differently.

Looks like they have 45 in stock now that I can order for pickup tomorrow. But you think if I walked into Home Depot tomorrow and asked for 82 gallons of paint they’re telling me to come back in a week? Regardless if it’s same day or a week later how much should I tip them?

I pay taxes and don’t get charged by the bag for trashy. So let’s say a normal week I put out 2 bags, but this week I put out 82. How much should I tip them?

Anyway thanks trying to poke holes and not answering why I should tip out for food service and not the jobs. Why is that industry entitled to extra compensation from the consumer for working harder and other industries aren’t?

Again, since you apparently didn't catch it the first time. All those other scenarios, those workers can and will still work at the same speed. There might be more work, but they'll just keep at it until they're done. You order 82 pizzas, those two kids are working their tails off for 30-45 minutes because if they make those pizzas at their normal speed, then half of your food order is cold when you come pick it up. It's absolutely worth tipping for making them work harder in my opinion. Apparently you don't care that you just made two teens work 10x harder. If that's not a tipping situation in your world, then nothing should be IMO and that's fine.

FYI, don't ever put 82 bags of trash out for pickup. Taxes or not, you will absolutely be fined and the fine will be much higher than if you just took the trash to the landfill yourself.

Also I put out a good 25+ bags of lawn waste a few months ago. Was not fined. So I assume 25 is ok but for some reason 82 wouldn’t be?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

Weird scenarios.

I tip the guy/s that help me load the paint. But probably not the guy at the counter unless I’m certain he made them all.
I throw my garbage guy a tip every Xmas. In your scenario, I definitely would have to pay extra for that large of a pick up. And like the guy carrying the paint, I probably throw the guy a 20
Never tipped my kids teachers. I did get them all presents and bought whatever they needed for the classroom. I also volunteered every day, all the way until jr high.

It’s about making someone else’s life better. I can afford it, why not? I have never thought, whytf am I paying this persons salary, the owner of the establishment should do that!

This is an absolutely appropriate tipping situation. The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas. The owner is stoked as is, but everyone else has been working their *** off for the past 2+ hours to make this happen. Throw them 50 bucks and go get the damn money from the parent association.

this

those 82 pizzas made it so they either fell behind, or couldn't fulfill, other orders.

if i recall anything about working at a place the did large-scale orders like this, someone probably called in the order the night before which gives the restaurant little/no time to prep for the demand.

throw these kids a tip

Exactly. I get the anti takeout tip sentiment but c’mon. Throw em a $20 or somethin’. You’re an FBG. For the kids, Jerry!

So because I can afford it I should throw these kids an extra couple of bucks?

Why doesn’t that apply to the owner of the business who’s profiting off the sale?

Shouldn’t he or she recognize the hard work they put in and give them a tip?

 

[the moops]

I can afford it, why not?

not everyone can afford a tip? I mean, I think most of us are pretty well off and could afford a tip and anyone that couldn't isn't doing a large order anyways but there who couldn't afford to tip

This was a parent association that threw down 700 bucks for pizzas. They most certainly could afford another 50 bucks or so

 

[the moops]

So because I can afford it I should throw these kids an extra couple of bucks?

Why doesn’t that apply to the owner of the business who’s profiting off the sale?

Shouldn’t he or she recognize the hard work they put in and give them a tip?

The owner absolutely should reward their staff for working hard and going above and beyond. That has nothing to do with whether we can be good humans and throw some extra cash to people who do a good job in the service industry

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I can afford it, why not?

not everyone can afford a tip? I mean, I think most of us are pretty well off and could afford a tip and anyone that couldn't isn't doing a large order anyways but there who couldn't afford to tip

This was a parent association that threw down 700 bucks for pizzas. They most certainly could afford another 50 bucks or so

Why not $100? Or $500?

 

[Dr. Manhattan]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

I hear you and don't entirely disagree. But, the food service world we live in relies on and contemplates tips for the food prices and servers' incomes. I'd much more prefer the European method where it's just baked into the price so we don't have to have these awkward situations. I actually don't mind when a restaurant has an auto-gratuity so I don't have to think about it. And, yeah, ideally the owner has some workers he or she may pay OT to for an advanced massive order like this and everybody is fairly compensated.

But, again, we don't live in this world. In the tipping culture world we live in, I find it unconscionable to not tip on a singular 82-pizza order.

Why does the inability/unwillingness of a restaurant owner to pay a livable wage burden me with the responsibility of making up the difference?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

So because I can afford it I should throw these kids an extra couple of bucks?

Why doesn’t that apply to the owner of the business who’s profiting off the sale?

Shouldn’t he or she recognize the hard work they put in and give them a tip?

The owner absolutely should reward their staff for working hard and going above and beyond. That has nothing to do with whether we can be good humans and throw some extra cash to people who do a good job in the service industry

Again why is the service industry so special that they deserve extra for working hard?

Should I go tip the guy who fixes my power during an outage in a snowstorm? He’s obviously working hard in treacherous conditions

Should I tip the HiLo driver at Target who’s pulling in extra loads off the truck during Christmas season?

 

[the moops]

I can afford it, why not?

not everyone can afford a tip? I mean, I think most of us are pretty well off and could afford a tip and anyone that couldn't isn't doing a large order anyways but there who couldn't afford to tip

This was a parent association that threw down 700 bucks for pizzas. They most certainly could afford another 50 bucks or so

Why not $100? Or $500?

Because math

 

[-OZ-]

You will absolutely be paying more if you put out 82 bags of trash to be collected. Likely A LOT more. If you even have one bag extra outside of your bin you get charged a fine.

This just isn’t true everywhere. We get large debris pickup one day, free. This includes anything from lawn to fencing to auto parts. Usually there’s a scavenger that picks up stuff he can sell a few hours before the city picks up the rest. There’s no fee if you have extra trash bags.

Even if that were true, you are paying more for 82 pizzas anyway.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I can afford it, why not?

not everyone can afford a tip? I mean, I think most of us are pretty well off and could afford a tip and anyone that couldn't isn't doing a large order anyways but there who couldn't afford to tip

This was a parent association that threw down 700 bucks for pizzas. They most certainly could afford another 50 bucks or so

Why not $100? Or $500?

Because math

Sorry can you show your work?

Or are you saying $0.61 a pizza is the standard tip everyone should be giving ?

 

[the moops]

I can afford it, why not?

not everyone can afford a tip? I mean, I think most of us are pretty well off and could afford a tip and anyone that couldn't isn't doing a large order anyways but there who couldn't afford to tip

This was a parent association that threw down 700 bucks for pizzas. They most certainly could afford another 50 bucks or so

Why not $100? Or $500?

Because math

Sorry can you show your work?

Or are you saying $0.61 a pizza is the standard tip everyone should be giving ?

Not sure we need to keep going round and round on this. Enjoy your tip free life my friends.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I can afford it, why not?

not everyone can afford a tip? I mean, I think most of us are pretty well off and could afford a tip and anyone that couldn't isn't doing a large order anyways but there who couldn't afford to tip

This was a parent association that threw down 700 bucks for pizzas. They most certainly could afford another 50 bucks or so

Why not $100? Or $500?

Because math

Sorry can you show your work?

Or are you saying $0.61 a pizza is the standard tip everyone should be giving ?

Not sure we need to keep going round and round on this. Enjoy your tip free life my friends.

Sorry i challenged your arbitrary limit for tipping.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Something else I was just thinking about, when I was a kid in the 80s, 10% was a pretty standard tip

Now it’s 20% and creeping up (again I mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread it’s not uncommon for someone to flip me a tip screen with 25% 30% 35% as the default options)

So by that rationale service workers are working 2 or 3 times as hard as they did back in the 80s, right?

 

[Zow]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

I hear you and don't entirely disagree. But, the food service world we live in relies on and contemplates tips for the food prices and servers' incomes. I'd much more prefer the European method where it's just baked into the price so we don't have to have these awkward situations. I actually don't mind when a restaurant has an auto-gratuity so I don't have to think about it. And, yeah, ideally the owner has some workers he or she may pay OT to for an advanced massive order like this and everybody is fairly compensated.

But, again, we don't live in this world. In the tipping culture world we live in, I find it unconscionable to not tip on a singular 82-pizza order.

Why does the inability/unwillingness of a restaurant owner to pay a livable wage burden me with the responsibility of making up the difference?

You're not "burdened" with anything if you decide not to tip - it's not a requirement. Similarly, you're not required to hold the door open for an 85 year old lady with a walker, either. But sometimes it's just the right thing to do. Here, when you're asking for a service outside the norm (82 freaking pizzas!), it's the right thing to do IMO.

This thread is funny. My wife gets on me all the time for not tipping enough in certain situations and I've been accused of being somewhere between frugal and stingy most of my life. But, man, compared to some of you...

I suppose thanks for making me feel a little better about myself.

 

[Zow]

Something else I was just thinking about, when I was a kid in the 80s, 10% was a pretty standard tip

Now it’s 20% and creeping up (again I mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread it’s not uncommon for someone to flip me a tip screen with 25% 30% 35% as the default options)

So by that rationale service workers are working 2 or 3 times as hard as they did back in the 80s, right?

FWIW it's with you on the bold. When something like this happens to me, I will manually enter less than what I would have otherwise in response to the presumptiveness of the tip suggestions.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

I hear you and don't entirely disagree. But, the food service world we live in relies on and contemplates tips for the food prices and servers' incomes. I'd much more prefer the European method where it's just baked into the price so we don't have to have these awkward situations. I actually don't mind when a restaurant has an auto-gratuity so I don't have to think about it. And, yeah, ideally the owner has some workers he or she may pay OT to for an advanced massive order like this and everybody is fairly compensated.

But, again, we don't live in this world. In the tipping culture world we live in, I find it unconscionable to not tip on a singular 82-pizza order.

Why does the inability/unwillingness of a restaurant owner to pay a livable wage burden me with the responsibility of making up the difference?

You're not "burdened" with anything if you decide not to tip - it's not a requirement. Similarly, you're not required to hold the door open for an 85 year old lady with a walker, either. But sometimes it's just the right thing to do. Here, when you're asking for a service outside the norm (82 freaking pizzas!), it's the right thing to do IMO.

This thread is funny. My wife gets on me all the time for not tipping enough in certain situations and I've been accused of being somewhere between frugal and stingy most of my life. But, man, compared to some of you...

I suppose thanks for making me feel a little better about myself.

Didn’t we have several people say they wouldn’t eat any of that food because someone might have done something to it knowing they weren’t getting a tip?

Or If I go sit down for a $300 steak dinner and leave zero tip, are you saying im not going to get a nasty comment from the server? What if I go back to this place again, am I going to get good service from this person?

So I would argue that we are indeed burdened with leaving a tip or there are possible repercussions

 

[B Maverick]

Throw them 50 bucks and go get the damn money from the parent association.

I agree with the sentiment but that PA isn't reimbursing your $50. No way I am doing that.

Why isn't the PA reimbursing? They just spent over a grand on pizzas, they can throw another 50 bucks in

I am sure they can, but do you actually think they will? Esp if it wasn't approved before hand?
All I am saying is I am not taking that chance.

 

[Mitchie]

Something else I was just thinking about, when I was a kid in the 80s, 10% was a pretty standard tip

Now it’s 20% and creeping up (again I mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread it’s not uncommon for someone to flip me a tip screen with 25% 30% 35% as the default options)

So by that rationale service workers are working 2 or 3 times as hard as they did back in the 80s, right?

In the 80s, it wasn't 10%, it was 15% and that was the minimum acceptable tip not really the standard. My grandpa was a very frugal guy and he would calc out 15% to the penny when we went out to dinner and even as a kid knew that while he never short changed anyone (regardless of service level) the majority of people were tipping a bit more.

And of the tip screen stuff yeah think most people agree that's gotten ridiculous.

 

[SWC]

i love gianmarco because his life is like a life of mystery and paradoxes and condundrums it must be super interesting and exciting to be him when your life is like a million wheelhouse topics every day and me i go to work come home mow the lawn maybe change the oil in my beater and maybe watch the brew crew aint no one writing a wheelhouse topic about that so man what a life what a life take that to the bank kebrosabis

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Something else I was just thinking about, when I was a kid in the 80s, 10% was a pretty standard tip

Now it’s 20% and creeping up (again I mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread it’s not uncommon for someone to flip me a tip screen with 25% 30% 35% as the default options)

So by that rationale service workers are working 2 or 3 times as hard as they did back in the 80s, right?

In the 80s, it wasn't 10%, it was 15% and that was the minimum acceptable tip not really the standard. My grandpa was a very frugal guy and he would calc out 15% to the penny when we went out to dinner and even as a kid knew that while he never short changed anyone (regardless of service level) the majority of people were tipping a bit more.

And of the tip screen stuff yeah think most people agree that's gotten ridiculous.

I’ll disagree but even if you want to argue it went from 15 to 20 , are the people working harder now than they were back then to deserve that extra 5 or 10%?

Or how about this? Do American service workers work that much harder than a European service worker to warrant a 25% tip vs a 1 or 2 euro tip?

Let’s say your bill is $98. In Europe you’d probably leave $100. Here you’d be paying $125. For more or less the same level of service. Why?

 

[DA RAIDERS]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

Weird scenarios.

I tip the guy/s that help me load the paint. But probably not the guy at the counter unless I’m certain he made them all.
I throw my garbage guy a tip every Xmas. In your scenario, I definitely would have to pay extra for that large of a pick up. And like the guy carrying the paint, I probably throw the guy a 20
Never tipped my kids teachers. I did get them all presents and bought whatever they needed for the classroom. I also volunteered every day, all the way until jr high.

It’s about making someone else’s life better. I can afford it, why not? I have never thought, whytf am I paying this persons salary, the owner of the establishment should do that!

This is an absolutely appropriate tipping situation. The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas. The owner is stoked as is, but everyone else has been working their *** off for the past 2+ hours to make this happen. Throw them 50 bucks and go get the damn money from the parent association.

this

those 82 pizzas made it so they either fell behind, or couldn't fulfill, other orders.

if i recall anything about working at a place the did large-scale orders like this, someone probably called in the order the night before which gives the restaurant little/no time to prep for the demand.

throw these kids a tip

Exactly. I get the anti takeout tip sentiment but c’mon. Throw em a $20 or somethin’. You’re an FBG. For the kids, Jerry!

So because I can afford it I should throw these kids an extra couple of bucks?

Why doesn’t that apply to the owner of the business who’s profiting off the sale?

Shouldn’t he or she recognize the hard work they put in and give them a tip?

You’re a peach.

Do you call the cops when kids set up a lemonade stand? No permits and all…F’ing ingrates wanting me to give them my hard earned money when they pay for nothing in life. I think not!!

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Something else I was just thinking about, when I was a kid in the 80s, 10% was a pretty standard tip

Now it’s 20% and creeping up (again I mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread it’s not uncommon for someone to flip me a tip screen with 25% 30% 35% as the default options)

So by that rationale service workers are working 2 or 3 times as hard as they did back in the 80s, right?

FWIW it's with you on the bold. When something like this happens to me, I will manually enter less than what I would have otherwise in response to the presumptiveness of the tip suggestions.

Same. It’s out of control and dumb

 

[General Malaise]

This is an absolutely appropriate tipping situation. The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas. The owner is stoked as is, but everyone else has been working their *** off for the past 2+ hours to make this happen. Throw them 50 bucks and go get the damn money from the parent association.

this

those 82 pizzas made it so they either fell behind, or couldn't fulfill, other orders.

if i recall anything about working at a place the did large-scale orders like this, someone probably called in the order the night before which gives the restaurant little/no time to prep for the demand.

throw these kids a tip

Were they forced at gunpoint to make these pizzas?

yes

i heard it from my aunt's friend's stylist who wrote about it on facebook

If you read this in an REO Speedwagon lyrical voice, it's funner.

 

[the moops]

I’ll disagree but even if you want to argue it went from 15 to 20 , are the people working harder now than they were back then to deserve that extra 5 or 10%?

Or how about this? Do American service workers work that much harder than a European service worker to warrant a 25% tip vs a 1 or 2 euro tip?

Let’s say your bill is $98. In Europe you’d probably leave $100. Here you’d be paying $125. For more or less the same level of service. Why?

You do know that servers in Europe make substantially more than servers in the US thus the no need to tip thing?

 

[General Malaise]

What was the response of the den moms who placed the order? Was the lack of a tip on purpose or? What did they say about it?

So, I'll add a few thoughts and updates.

1. I really thought the biggest discussion would be about whether or not to ask the parent organization for getting money back for a tip being left. I had no idea the discussion would be more about whether or not tipping on such an order should happen. This place never ceases to amaze.
2. I'm overall not a fan of the tipping culture, but I understand it is what it is and there are certain expectations. I'm a reasonable tipper. 20% when going out to eat, more for good/personable service. I don't tip when picking up food myself or regular counter service. I also tip good service at my home when there's any significant work done.
3. That said, this is not your normal service. Sure, the owner of the Papa John's is making money on the order, but the kids working there have to work really hard to put this kind of order together. They should absolutely get extra for that. That goes for any large catering order from any restaurant.

So, in this situation, there's about 300 kids in the grade, it was an average of 2 slices per kid. The pizzas were $7.99/each, hence the bill coming to just over $650. No tax was charged (guessing the school is exempt) and there was no service fee.

My wife showed up first. When she got the receipt, she confirmed with the manager nothing extra was given. She didn't have any cash on her, so she asked if they could run a tip only on her credit card as there was no way she wasn't going to leave them something. As she asked, she then noticed someone holding the door open as she was about to start loading the pizzas and was hoping he was a customer as she was just going to pay for his pizza and add the tip on that. He was just an employee at the store next door and was just being nice, so that didn't work.

Then the other parent showed up at that moment and learned of the situation. He had cash and offered to leave it. He gave a $100 with my wife asking for his Venmo to split. He refused.

Of note, there were only 2 workers in the store. They were the ones that put together the whole order.

When they got to the school, my wife talked to the parent organizer and explained what happened. She told the other parent how to submit a reimbursement to get it back (even though it wasn't guaranteed), but he still refused and said not to worry about it.

In the end, we would have been fine leaving that same tip. I would have submitted the reimbursement form if we did, though.

I also think it's incredibly poor form for them to place that kind of order and not tip and, as such, doubt we will do any other kind of volunteering for this group.

Good people, right here.

 

[General Malaise]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

$7.99/pie and no tax seems like a sweet deal to me.

 

[General Malaise]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

BECAUSE I'M NOT EATING THE BLUE PAINT!!!1111


as far as you know.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I’ll disagree but even if you want to argue it went from 15 to 20 , are the people working harder now than they were back then to deserve that extra 5 or 10%?

Or how about this? Do American service workers work that much harder than a European service worker to warrant a 25% tip vs a 1 or 2 euro tip?

Let’s say your bill is $98. In Europe you’d probably leave $100. Here you’d be paying $125. For more or less the same level of service. Why?

You do know that servers in Europe make substantially more than servers in the US thus the no need to tip thing?

Yes. So we’re back to why is it my responsibility to ensure the service industry makes a living wage and not the owner of the establishment?

Why should I be made to feel guilty or risk someone tampering with my food for not paying some arbitrary additional percentage on my total bill?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

BECAUSE I'M NOT EATING THE BLUE PAINT!!!1111


as far as you know.

Got it so you only tip if you’re eating food unless it’s a multibillion dollar corporation

What about your barber? Uber driver? Why do they get a tip but not your grocery clerk? Your airline pilot?

Should I tip my insurance agent if I add a new car to my policy? After all I made him work harder than he normally would have that day

I’m just trying to point out the absurdity and arbitrariness of the service industry and that it should fall on the business owners and not me and you to ensure those people earn a living wage

 

[the moops]

I’ll disagree but even if you want to argue it went from 15 to 20 , are the people working harder now than they were back then to deserve that extra 5 or 10%?

Or how about this? Do American service workers work that much harder than a European service worker to warrant a 25% tip vs a 1 or 2 euro tip?

Let’s say your bill is $98. In Europe you’d probably leave $100. Here you’d be paying $125. For more or less the same level of service. Why?

You do know that servers in Europe make substantially more than servers in the US thus the no need to tip thing?

Yes. So we’re back to why is it my responsibility to ensure the service industry makes a living wage and not the owner of the establishment?

Why should I be made to feel guilty or risk someone tampering with my food for not paying some arbitrary additional percentage on my total bill?

If you are arguing that we should eliminate tipping all together I am for it. However, the current world we live in, that is generally not OK for most servers make a couple bucks an hour. I frequent a couple restaurants/cafes that have a no tipping policy and the service charge is just baked into the price. I love it.

 

[SWC]

dan show me on the doll where the wait staff hurt you take that to the bank brohans

 

[General Malaise]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

BECAUSE I'M NOT EATING THE BLUE PAINT!!!1111


as far as you know.

Got it so you only tip if you’re eating food unless it’s a multibillion dollar corporation

What about your barber? Uber driver? Why do they get a tip but not your grocery clerk? Your airline pilot?

Should I tip my insurance agent if I add a new car to my policy? After all I made him work harder than he normally would have that day

I’m just trying to point out the absurdity and arbitrariness of the service industry and that it should fall on the business owners and not me and you to ensure those people earn a living wage

Yes I tip my barber. Yes I tip the drivers. I don't know why I don't tip the grocery clerk, though I'm almost 100% self-check-out-guy now, thank you very much.

No I'm not tipping my airline pilot, I don't have one. I'd offer to buy one a drink, but I think that is frowned upon.

My insurance agent makes plenty already, I've seen his car. Maybe I should do that.

You've pointed it out. I can't explain it to you. I'm just not bothered by it. I just play by the rules the game of life gives me, Dan.

 

[Zow]

I’ll disagree but even if you want to argue it went from 15 to 20 , are the people working harder now than they were back then to deserve that extra 5 or 10%?

Or how about this? Do American service workers work that much harder than a European service worker to warrant a 25% tip vs a 1 or 2 euro tip?

Let’s say your bill is $98. In Europe you’d probably leave $100. Here you’d be paying $125. For more or less the same level of service. Why?

You do know that servers in Europe make substantially more than servers in the US thus the no need to tip thing?

Yes. So we’re back to why is it my responsibility to ensure the service industry makes a living wage and not the owner of the establishment?

Why should I be made to feel guilty or risk someone tampering with my food for not paying some arbitrary additional percentage on my total bill?

If you are arguing that we should eliminate tipping all together I am for it. However, the current world we live in, that is generally not OK for most servers make a couple bucks an hour. I frequent a couple restaurants/cafes that have a no tipping policy and the service charge is just baked into the price. I love it.

Yep.

I personally hate tipping. Not because I don't want to pay an appropriate price for the service, but because it's gotten to a point where I'm genuinely uncertain what to do in what situations and what is appropriate or not.